462 posts • joined Friday 22nd January 2010 13:53 GMT
spotify is actually good
I've had a paid for account for about 2 years now and I'm still very happy with it, might change if they try forcinging me to get a facebook account.
> requiring a standalone native windows binary is a *good* thing?
WIth you on that one, although native apps do tend to be easier to use with a keyboard only (by native I mean not browser based).
One thing I wish oracle had kept was the trend towards dropping the use of Java X for version numbers. It's starting to bug me that everyone is doing this, e.g. chrome and mozilla, It's as everyone is getting spinal tap to come up with version numbers.
It got downvoted, so I withdrew it.
Wow, wouldn't have thought anyone would post on here and face the wrath that you can expect for saying something like 1+1 = 2 (or 11, sorry folks, wonder how many people were about to click respond there) if they were concerned one Jub about how people would react
Eh, better change that before Berlusconi reads that, might not like what you are implying
Maybe they have something better to do
Like work, family, hobbies or even _real_ social interaction in the real world. It's been a long time since I've actually had any interest in using the software we develop other than testing purposes.
"VM advertises speeds that at least 90% of the ISP's customers receive"
Presumably they meant "could receive if they hadn't have got super hub"
Re: Horrible user experience
Why does everyone assume it is the language that is responsible for crap software. Ever thought it might be the ability of the developers and or time scales that are the cause.
I know they are not everything, just saying it may be better to prioritise things a bit better. I'm certainly not suggesting we withdraw all funding for arts/humanities. We have to make sure that cuts that are happening now are not going to screw us in the future when we don't have the knowledge to compete.
> If we don't have art in hospitals, people take longer to get better,
True, but if it was a choice between a picture painted by an art student or some gadget invented by an engineer to help diagnose someone I know what I would prefer.
> This article is about PhD funding, rather than first degrees
I appreciate that, and I referring to both pre and post grad study/research, they are connected in the overall scheme of things.
I have no problems at all with people studying whatever they want, however push comes to shove i'd rather that the available money was used in the most practical manner, to me this means ensuring our future engineering and scientific capability is up to scratch. If as a consequence other subjects were not as well funded then it is something we need to put up with.
Why not cut funding to the less useful degree courses, i.e. non science/engineering subjects like history and mickey mouse ones like media studies. Charge those more and redirect the cash into driving down fees to students doing subjects that are going to benefit the country, at both graduate and post-graduate level.
What to read a file system? I'm pretty sure that it would be a lot less than that, unless you are including the bloatware most phones seem to come with for syncing or whatever they do (never bought a phone that had software that working on linux so don't actually know).
If device manufacturers started to do this you can guarantee MS would start supporting them out of the box. Doubt Apple would though.
Wait and see
Given that there were no details I don't see why a lot of people are whinging about it all been a waste of time. Personally I've worked with large complex systems that have had web based interfaces for about 15 years and have probably used pretty much every web orientated technology going and while things have improved over the years they all have a lot lacking.
Hey, even if it isn;t that useful to anyone outside google, as go appears to be from peoples comments it may be to them. Even if it saves 1 day more for google to develop solutions using it that it took to develop the language then it was worthwhile for them.
Usefulness is in the eye of the beholder
> The fastest Smalltalk VM? Who cares
People who use(d) it, actually there are still quite a lot people and businesses using smalltalk and rightly so.
> How about writing something useful for a change? ... an open source C++ front-end for C++2011
Useful for you I assume, can't see how that would be that useful for Google. Anyway, as there are not many details released how do you know it's not going to be useful to many people?
> What's that? No? It's hard? Might be subject to scrutiny and peer review?
Some how I doubt that the two engineers mentioned are likely to be scared of something hard or subject to peer review. To be honest you even suggesting that is insulting to two well respected developers who have contributed a lot to our industry.
"the amount of prior art involved provided so much ammunition for the defense"
Surely if he acknowledges that could those patents just not have been dismessed rather than asking oracle to cherry pick, it would have been interesting to see how many are obviously no longer relevant as patents to a Judge.
If you can't search for it
how will the RIAA find people how are sharing it
(yes I know you can still search for it if you have even a little savvy)
"they have had seven months to remove the files"
What from the internet? How do you do that then?
Dos this take into account what keypad is being used?
Android allows custom keyboards to be used. Different keyboard layouts are going to have different movement characteristics.
BTW, I hereby announce I have a patent pending on varying keyboard layout for entering secure information by above or any other in decipherable means. I'm sure if I reworded it carefully I could sue Apple, Google, MS and everyone in the world for non clear text passwords, I'll split the money with most water tight wording.
Maybe they could claim any incriminating emails where planted/sent by some one who got by the poor security
You certainly do
Thats probably why it costs so much, that sort of innovative design costs a lot to develop and until someone sells a similar looking one to start a legal process against the only way to make money is to sell stuff.
re: Using straight Java would have allowed ...
> Using straight Java would have allowed any old Android customer to use any old app market
Ignoring the fact anyone can do that now with dalvik why couldn't you. If you define the API and what apps can do you prevent whatever you want, its an implementation issue.
However google are not interested in doing that, simple as that.
RE: high end Android phones are often MORE expensive.
Thats because they cost more to make and are better spec'd than iPhones, just because they have to spend less on the OS doesn't mean the hardware costs any less
Java (as much as people dislike it) is popular
Popular and disliked!
> Dalvik is used because Java is slow and bloated.
> ..That's probably the reason.
I'm going to completely ignore the remark about java being slow and move straight on. I'd say one of the main reasons is so they didn't have to license it from Sun.
You ever been in a union?
Group bargaining has a lot going for it, strikes are a rare occurrence. If you look at any large company you'll see different groups of employees in unions and some that aren't, guess which ones get a bigger payrise. Those not in a union have no recourse, other than going to their line manager who is probably in exactly the same boat and get no where.
> Why is pointing out a company's actions taken as a blind promotion of altruism?
I read the comment as the op using the fact that Apple contribute a lot to OS to support their belief that Apple would be a better company to do business with. I was trying to point out that the fact that they do this is irrelevant and adds nothing to support that point. If it wasn't mentioned for that reason why mention it?
My business involves relying on both Apple and Google, for me neither really fit it with the way I like to work and operate but life as it is all about compromises. I have dislike for both companies at a philosophical level but that has nothing to do with day to day business. Out of the two Apple causes me more a lot more grief than Google, but that's my circumstances.
Use tougher materials, maybe even make i waterproof while you are at it. Might give samsung a ring, see if they are interested in the idea.
Seriously, phones these days are hard to break. I had an old hero which died when it got wet so became a brick. A few months earlier I dropped it down 2 flights of [metal] stairs, so out of curiosity (no phone insurance and not worth paying to get it fixed) I tried dropping it/throwing on a my patio, remained in one piece!
a good company wrt open source software
Beacuse it benefits them, yes they are embracing OS it the way it should be, but please don't make it seem like they are doing it as a favour to the industry. If they where why not make their whole development tool suite open source and let people develop for iOS on say linux or even windows?
And please don't tell me there are no jobs.
There are not enough to go round. Simple, anyone who really thinks that the majority of the unemployed are layabouts who have no idea of what society is like beyond their blinkered and closed social outlook. Look at any area that has had some major industry closures, entire towns are been devastated by the impact. My area has seen unemployment got from around 5% to about 11% since this crisis started, you seriously suggesting an extra 5-6% of people just decided to go on benefit? For people to just off declare that people don't get a job because they are lazy is very offending and stems from ignorance (I hope rather than the alternatives).
Also, if you think the jobs that are taken by people working illegally in this country are available to people who are legitimately able to work then you are once again misled.
I'm going to get voted down here by every daily mail reader here
> If all Google wanted was a shield then they would have had such by entering a joint bid with M$ and Co.
How does that shield them from patent attacks by MS and Co.? Sure they can't get attack under those ones, but the patents then can't be used as a defense from other patents attacks by the same companies they would have jointly bid with on these.
Just look at Linux on the desktop.
I'm not going to make any claims which is better. But there is nothing wrong with linux on the desktop. My wife who never used anything but some ancient dos program at work for 10+ years has no problems with it, my 2 year old daughter can use it (thanks Qimo). I also own a mac and the user experience in terms of flashy effects etc is just as flashy if you like that sort of thing.
>> deep API access and an open app-approval process among them"
>Erm, no. Its doing so well because its cheap, cheap, cheap.
There have been a number of times (3 to be exact) where I've had to tell a client that you just can't do that on iOS and/or the app store (including that for the OSX). Unfortunately (or not maybe) they have refused to compromise on a feature they hold important that we've implemented it on android.
lost a ton of licensing revenue
I agree with what you said, just thought I'd comment on this.
Why have they lost revenue? because android is a much better platform to develop for and provides much more than anything Oracle can offer with what they currently have. If a company making a £400 -£500 phone a few dollars to license jme is insignificant, they go with android simply because it adds a lot more value.
voted down again?
why? Is someone trying to suggest that people buy shares to make the world a better place eather than make money? I really wish I could believe that. I know if I did this I would be asked to explain my decision, anything based on personal ethics would get me knocked down instantly.
I remember around 10 years ago I used to sit in front of a SGI workstation (an octane) with two 28" monitors. One day I and my colleagues had to move desks, never did such a hard days work since I worked as a lumberjacks assistant in summer holidays shifting fallen trees out f the way.
You mean you read it!
He obviously couldn't see teh point, he obvious thought no one was going to read it judging from his opening paragraph so couldn;t be bothered. Personally I gave up at that point and skipped to the comments to see if he was right.
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