1090 posts • joined 22 May 2007
Why the hell is this kind of thing being dealt with by SOCA?!
It is NOT a serious crime!! Stealing a penny sweet from a corner shop is a more serious crime than copying files like this from a server somewhere. This deprives Sony of nothing, and the only effect (assuming the files weren't distributed, which the article doesn't mention) is to force Sony to close a security hole in their network, which they should be doing anyway.
Serious crimes cause serious harm. Even if the files were distributed and it could be proven that this cost Sony significant amounts of money, it is still not a SERIOUS crime. There is not enough detail to know if it was "organised crime", but I would guess not, just a couple of "hackers" operating on their own.
SOCA my arse! They should go out and meet some victims of REAL, SERIOUS CRIME to get their priorities right, families of murder victims, victims of assault etc. Or, at the very least, be renamed so the name actually portrays what they are dealing with. I wish I had the imagination to fit a decent backronym to a descriptive word.
Re: Teach your children well
How many kids graffiti? Carve "penis" or their initials into their school desks?
When older, how many people will join protests against government policy, where some will then be involved in hanging banners, tearing down posters, or even grafitti (again) to try to get their points accross. Should these people also be shot?
At the end of the day, while I disagree with them doing it, what Anon do is normally no worse than grafitti, a petty act of vandalism designed to gain publicity. Defacing a website of a government agency does no real harm, it is just a method of publicising their cause.
IMHO speeding is a more serious offense than defacing or taking down a webite: who are you going to kill by taking some marketting material offline for a few hours? All those calling for harsh, disproportionate punishments of these "hackers": Do you ever break the speed limit? Have you ever broken the law in ANY way?
I'm not at all religious, but I think one line from the bible applies here: Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
Re: relevant xkcd link
I am often shocked at how many times an xkcd cartoon is relevant.
Just as I am often shocked at how often a South Park episode is relevant.
Re: Re: It was pretty obvious this would happen.
Unless I am mistaken they have these at Manchester Airport. At least that's what I assumed they were.
It was on my last holiday, and there were electronically controlled gates. AFAIK they were randomly controlled, or chose every nth person or some such, sending people either through the scanner or straight past.
I could be wrong, but if I am correct I think this is the right way to do it. No human interference (if someone is already flagged as a threat or security officials think they are acting sus, they have other procedures they can follow), just "random" selection.
Re: Re: Aren't ALL Darwin Awards posthumous?
Ah, OK I forgot about that. Thanks
Re: Island Dwarfism
"All the big hungry bastards kick the bucket and receive a posthumous Darwin award."
Aren't ALL Darwin Awards posthumous?
Re: Re: sigh
LOL! @ Richard Wharram
I re-read after seeing your comment and now YOU owe me a keyboard!
For anyone who wants to leave them a message
Assuming you are running Linux:
Put your message, using only alphanumeric characters and spaces, into a file called socamessage, then run the following command:
cat socamessage | sed -e 's/\s/_/g' | (while read L; do wget -O /dev/null "http://webwarper.net/ww/rnbxclusive.com/$L"; done)
If you have a long message to send, it can be split over several lines.
This will also anonymise, although only through a single proxy.
My own just let them know my displeasure at the Serious Organised Crime Agency threatening to investgate the probably innocent visitors to the site, and asking why they don't have better things to do (like investigating SERIOUS ORGANISED crime)
"8 Mb total free space? No, you have 4 Mb free. Ha!"
Don't you mean:
"What do you mean you are running out of space?... *tap tap tap* You have NOTHING in your home directory! Not even in the *tap tap tap* backups."
"Google will make a final offer of its RAND license terms... without prejudice to any right to recover damages for past unlicensed use... before seeking injunctive relief for infringement of the acquired… patents"
That certainly seems reasonable to me.
Assuming Moto have attempted to license the patents under reasonable terms but these have been rejected by the other party, Google are saying they'll give them another chance before seeking an injunction, although they'll reserve the right to sue for past, unlicensed use.
But this is where the line gets blurry: What is reasonable to one may not be to another.
Don't tell me they don't even salt the hash?!
It could be salted using some info on the Secure Element, thus allowing the PIN to be maganed by droid, or some such. I can't see how this could be so easily cracked unless they are either not salting or they are using an easy-to-find salt.
Anyone with a brain...
has been thinking this for a long time. Finally someone has told the govt about it.
All govts these days seem more interested in being seen to be doing something, rather than making good descisions. This is where something like the House of Lords should step in, but they just allow the govt to push through their knee jerk reactions to the latest headlines.
"All you are saying is that some firms, e.g. Apple, are better at producing a better, more useable version of existing technology or ideas. That seems to me to be praiseworthy"
I completely agree. Apple are VERY good at repackaging an existing product into a more usable product. I will never take that away from them, they are brilliant at it.
However, IMHO, that is all they are good at. I do not believe they have ever invented anything on their own, and therefore do not believe they have any patents which could not reasonably be covered by prior art (I am happy for people to correct me if I am wrong).
Everything I have seen from them has been done before, and they have improved it and slapped patents on it.
Android support is likely to be very difficult. From what I've seen, the architecture of Android dcoesn't lend itself to changing hardware very well. Although the undelying Linux system may support them, many parts including interfaces to the display & audio are hard-coded for their particular hardware.
People may correct me if I am wrong, I'm certainly no expert on this.
I think the better way would be to find out what it'd natural predator is, and introduce that to the areas.
Then, when they go out of control, find THEIR natural predator and introduce them.
And then... OK, maybe not such a good plan, a la "She swallowed the spider to catch the fly".
"But they'll be dead soon anyway. Fucking kangaroos."
Why, do kangaroos carry deadly STDs?
Or is it just that kangaroo love is so common in Aus?
That's the point
If one country sees another fire a nuke, they won't hang around to see where it's target is, they'll immediately assume the worst.
"I and most people are well aware of the lack of sense of humor homeland security / immigration / customs have while entering (or leaving) the USA. the golden rule is if your planing on going in holiday to the USA or any other country for that matter, make sure you are well aware of what is likely to piss the government or the populous off and avoid it... unless your intention is to piss them off."
Not just the USA. A mate at Uni went to Aus with a group in his year out. One of the lads in the group, when asked if he had a criminal record, reponded with "I didn't know you still needed one to get in".
Always going to be a mistake, and rather an uncomfortable one (latex gloves went on pretty quickly).
Only 2 thoughts here.
1, these "kids" were a little misguided (i.e. completely stupid) to make these comments in a public forum. Do they not remember the guy who tweeted about blowing up the airport?
2, the security services of all countries need to take a chill pill. The comments were obviously a bad taste joke, maybe double checking them and questioning them quickly to make sure is OK, but deporting them?
To be fair, I think this just reflects what I have believed for a while: average intelligence of the world's human population is going down hill.
No longer happenning on my Giffgaff connection.
"penalties of up to €1 million or up to 2% of the global annual turnover of a company"
Is this whichever is lower or whichever is higher?
I would assume the first, but it is not made clear in the article (and I don't have time to look it up myself).
In addition, I agree with the comment about "a right to be heard". Credit referrence agencies can be terrible, as can the people processing that data (when you apply for a loan, it is the bank etc. who decide whether to approve you, not the agency who suppilies the data). If you have withheld payment for a legitimate reason, you can end up with a mark on your credit history, and there's nothing you can really do to get it removed (quickly) unless the company agrees, and banks are less than sympathetic to such issues.
Just tried this
from my Giffgaff connection and makes no difference.
If they can't meet, either the industry dies or things carry one as they are.
At the end of the day, they make enough money as things stand (forget this bull about them loosing so much, the films still make millions in profit) and the industry CAN continue with the status quo. This is likely why they are pushing for legislation like this: If it is true that many wouldn't go and buy their products even if they weren't available illegitimately, which I think they accept (if not publicly) then they loose nothing and protect their out dated business model.
Sorry small correction:
"They are able to download a torrent of a file, for example"
should have been
"They are able to download a torrent of a FILM, for example"
Nice article, thanks
Totally agree that there needs to be discussion, debate and compromise to solve this issue. The problem is neither side wish to do so/
The way I see it, the media industries shot themselves in the foot a long time ago and have been struggling to stop the hemorrhage since. They failed to keep up with technology, so people stepped into the gap and provided the services people wanted: the only problem was, without the media industries backing, it was piracy, and the media industry made no money from it.
There is now a generation where a large proportion have become used to getting any media they want almost instantly, and available to watch on any device they wish. The fact it is free is incidental. They are able to download a torrent of a file, for example, on the day of release (and sometimes earlier) and, a short while later, watch it. They can then play it on their phone, their PC, their TV... any device they want, for as long as they want, in as good quality as they would get if they had gone to the shop and bought the DVD/BluRay. There are no restrictions on operating systems or number of devices they can play it on. There are no trailers or adverts about "copyright theft". In short it is convenient and simple.
Having "forced" a big chunk of this generation into such distribution methods, the industry needs to come up with something which is at least as good in order to convert them, as they will not pay for a service of a lower standard than they are used to receiving for free. They also need to price it sensibly, so they are encouraged to use it. And they need to make ALL content available, as with only a limitted amount, why should they switch?
This is a better method than enforcement (at the moment). There will still be some die-hard "freetards" (hate the term, but it's the best term available) who will not switch, but with a reasonable, legal alternative most will. At this point, it will be easier (and less unpopular) to target enforcement action at those who have not switched (if there are enough of them to be worth it by then).
To sum it all up, the media industry (IMHO) need to "win the hearts and minds" of the public (mainly the tech public) with a GOOD QUALITY, GOOD VALUE service before they wage war on the illegitimate sources of media. Instead, they choose to offer services of a lower standard than those availble elsewhere and shut down the places offering what their customers want.
Then they are surprised when their customers fight back.
Instead of fighting the tech, they should be engaging them to find out what they want, and providing it.
Note: I am not saying the "pirates" are in the right, just that the media industry are, IMO, doing things in the wrong way. So are the tech industry.
"It will be interesting to see how this works out though. F1 is such a commercially-dependent sport and I wonder how the reduced viewing figures will impact the teams' ability to attract sponsorship."
I wouldn't be surprised to see it end up the same way Premiership football has: so dependant on TV fees that it becomes their bitch.
"It'll be a streaming site for me, or friends/pubs with Sky."
I reckon you'll be lucky to find a pub showing the F1.
F1 races are on Sundays, normally in the afternoon. Guess which more popular sport is also shown on Sunday afternoons on Sky?
There was one pub I went to which showed F1, a biker bar which has sadly shut down, but that was because it was FTA (they didn't have Sky).
Though I big F1 fan, I had already told the missus-to-be that I would not be paying extra for F1: I already hate paying for Sky, even on the basic (HD) package, and will not pay extra. She blames me for getting her into F1.
Luckily, I have been reliably informed that the F1 channel will be free if you have either Sports or HD packages, so I should get it for no extra.
If not, I can get my motorsport fix elsewhere: MotoGP anyone?
"you're assuming that the plants we have can cope with the amount of polution humanity is creating"
I know CO2 is not the only pollutant we are creating, but it is the most talked about, and plants like higher CO2 concentrations (in general).
Therefore by putting out CO2 we are probably helping the plants which will, eventually, remove it from the atmosphere and restore balance.
This doesn't stop your point about "hacking away at the plants" being true.
Ive wondered before why a "smartphone" needs to contain all the gubbins it does. My own idea was a "dumb" phone which does phone calls and text messages only, in a tiny package, then a "smart" termial, which can do all the cool stuff and uses the dumb phone for connectivity. This goes much further... I like it, I want it :)
@Aaron EmHe was saying other AR devices require you holding your device out at arms-length in a gesture similar to those used by German Nazi's. He didn't even come close to calling you a Nazi. I, however, come very close to calling you a moron!
I'm pretty sure that, even in our company (a semiconductor manufacturer), it's a serious disciplinary offence. For a cop... Blimey, I wouldn't be surprised if he could be prosecuted for it!
Excuze ma spelin an grama
I always mix them up...
El Reg is going to loose revenue.
I have always disabled ABP etc on the Register to support them.
These ads have become so disruptive I'm not going to bother any more. ABP back on.
Take note: Readers are often more than happy to have ads, not so happy when they make a chunk of the article slide off their screen a few seconds into reading!
Dell Streak 5-incher seems just about pocketable
OK, I put my hands up, I was wrong. I had never heard of Jury Nullification. In fact, when I was on a jury, the court's directions seemed to go completely against that, even if only by implication, which is where my viewpoint comes from.
It seems to me that this is not very well known and would probably have more impact if jurors knew of it. As far as I was concerned, I was there to evaluate the evidence under the law (although it would have made no difference in that case).
Thanks for the correction and education :)
"What the courts say is one thing, but *juries* have awarded copyright holders enormous sums for damages. Is there any reason to think that those juries were more representative of the American public than the sample in this survey?"
AFAIK the damages are not assigned by a jury, but by the judge. The jury only decides guilty/not guilty of each charge.
Even if it is the jury who award the damages, they will be directed in what they are allowed to do by the judge. Many may feel the damages are disproportionate, but a jury is not allowed to flout the law: If they find the defendant guilty of x, they must award damages of y. I have been on a jury, and their remit is severely limitted.
Similarly if it is a judge who makes the descision, the both he and the jury are constrained by the law. If the case is proven that someone is guilty, the jury must find them guilty. They cannot use their sympathies to decide that, althopugh they committed a crime, they should be let off. The judge must then use this verdict to determine the punishment within the constraints of the law. There may be a small amount of wiggle room allowed in the legal framework, but things must remain within that framework.
"The only thing I find confusing is the scoring, which even the show's host doesn't seem to understand."
The scores don't matter. Simples.
"instead of just thinking about STEM, we should add the Arts so it becomes STEAM."
Sounds like a load of hot air to me
Obvious answer (in my oppinion)
"Well, chaps, here's an idea. Why not choose a representative sample of 2,000 broadband users, grant them immunity for a couple of months, and do a silent double-blind test? Perhaps with some of the sample you could experiment with new ideas. The ISP knows exactly what's going on, so speculating on speculation should become superfluous."
This research would have to be conducted by (or with the express consent of) the industry (music/film/software producers working together) to allow them to offer immunity. However, these are the exact same people who do not want this research conducted: they want to be able to maintain their archaic business models, and this research would likely (IMHO) force them into doing something new.
"The Yard added that a single piece of copper cable nicked from an underground telephone network could knock out the landlines to more than 200 homes and businesses for up to three days at a time."
Doesn't sound like a well designed infrastructure to me... ah, wait, it's BT, I get it.
"Law based on actually studying a case properly rather than give in blindly to lobby groups!"
I know, it's incredible!
Way to miss the target, Sean Baggaley 1
AFAIK, Amazon was happily selling eBooks (along with several others) as they do real books: i.e. buy the book from the publisher, sell it, with a negotiated wholesale price paid to the publisher, and then Amazon free to set their price (subject to competition).
That's where Apple came along to demand a chunk of the pie. They didn't want anyone selling for less than them, so they and the publishers forced a different model. In effect, it means the publisher is selling the book to the consumer, and gives a cut to the retailer. It amounts to price fixing, and is the reason many Kindle books now say "This price was set by the publisher"
Note: the above is what I understand from the articles I have read. There may be inaccuracies, but I believe the overall story is correct.
"It is as much a legal requirement to have a TV licence if you own and operate a TV in the UK as it is to tax a car if you keep it on the road."
It is not a requirement to have a license if you own and operate a TV in the UK. It is a requirement to have a TV license if you receive broadcast TV content. It is perfectly legal to own equipment capable of receiving TV broadcasts without a TV license IF you don't recieve them (e.g. have no aerial connected, detune the TV etc.), no matter what they try to tell you. The license ppl can get quite threatenning. I have a friend who did this. They needed to save money, so cancelled the TVL, detuned the TVs, diconnected the aerials, and stopped watching TV (watched DVDs etc when they wanted to). The TVL sent someone round, she invited them in and showed them that she could not get broadcast TV in the house. Initially they claimed "you could just plug back up and retune the equipment", but this doesn't hold water. They went away with tails between legs, and a year or so later, when my friend had the money to do so, the license started being paid again.
...that would rule out all heterosexual intercourse.
All women are crazy!
Joking of course... or am I?
"No one is going to pay an iPad price for anything other than an iPad."
I will add one word... "Yet".
When Android phone's first appeared, nobody was going to pay iPhone prices for them, because they could get an iPhone for that. Therefore lower priced Android phones appeared, allowing Android to make a big push into the market.
Now many are prepared to pay MORE for an Android phone than and iPhone.
This is what needs to happen with tablets. Devices like the Fire need releasing to allow the Android Tablet to make a big push into the market. Once this happens, people will be more likely to look at higher-priced models.
"It's interesting to note the difference between CERN's handling of some odd results, and CRU and, well, any data at all."
I must agree.
CERN's handling of it's "faster than light" findings has been an example to all scientists. Publishing all the data involved, including the method used to collect and analyse that data, allows the whole scientific community to analyse it and find any possible errors. This is a very important step in something which affects a fundamental law of physics...
...or something which may have massive impact upon the entire human population, as climate scientists claim will happen with climate change.
I am not saying one way or the other whether man-made climate change is correct. All I am saying is that when something is as important as this, CERN's method is the correct one, not CRU's.
"In an attempt to avoid inaccuracy, I suggest simply inventing new, short words instead."
We could call it "Newspeak".
This is a true comment, however your T&Cs will state that the account holder is responsible for use of the account. Now, while this shouldn't stand up in court for other actions, it does mean that the ISP can justifiably disconnect you for breaching your T&Cs.
Also, I believe that the action would be a civil prosecution, which does not carry the same burden of proof as criminal proceedings. Merely presenting that it is your account would, I think, be enough to win their case if you presented no evidence in defence (IANAL).
It is not discrimination to ask an obese person to pay extra if they are going to require 2 seats, it is geometry: You do not fit in 1 seat. If you take up the space of 2 passengers, expect to pay more.
My mum is tiny, yet even she was squashed when she was forced to sit next to one overweight american who hadn't bought an extra seat (and she was only sat their because my dad couldnt fit at all next to this inconsiderate b***h!)
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