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Pssst. Want to buy a timeshare in the clouds?

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Resistance is futile!

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Facebook pays INFINITELY MORE UK corp tax than in 2012

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"all personal income be taxed at the same rate whether it is earned income, inheritance, dividend income, capital gains or whatever"

I will clarify: I am not advocating a flat rate income tax. I would suggest our current income tax structure is about right.

I would also, personally, not argue for inheritance to be taxed as income. Anything passed on when you die should already have been taxed when you earned it, and I feel it is quite unfair to tax it again when you die. Passing on property, however, should be counted the same as selling it, so capital gains would apply against the estate, based on a valuation at the time of death, and capital gains would count as income to those receiving the inheritance.

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I honestly think that the solution to this is abandoning corporation tax. I know this will be unpopular, but hear me out.

Forget corp tax. Forget calculations of profit. Any money made by a company is untaxed as long as it remains in the company. If it is re-invested, or even held as cash, it is untouched.

As soon as it comes out of the company, the individual is taxed. This would be full income tax on everything: Wages, dividends, interest etc. While we are at it, roll up NI into income tax. It is, in effect, one and the same, a tax on income. It is much simpler to administer, too, and it encourages investment. The money will be taxed, eventually, when it leaves the company.

This would also help clamp down on those who set up a company, take minimum wage and then the rest as deividends. Those dividends get added to their income and taxed at normal rates.

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Instead of a high corporate tax (25% or 30%) on profit, have a low (5%?) corporate tax based on income.

What you are suggesting is VAT.

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"You must pay X% of your UK business income to the UK government." - seems pretty simple to me. I'm sure there are side-issues and corner cases but quite what's difficult about legislating that with enough clarifications to make what you mean by "UK business income" explicit?

The definition of "UK business income" is the problem.

The company does pay X% on the UK companies profits (business income). The problem is that companies can, through various legal means, shift those profits around. International companies can shop around for the best deals. In fact, it is pretty much a legal requirement for PLCs to do so, as they have a legal obligation to maximise shareholder value.

It is not even as though we can just "close the loopholes". All (or at least almost all) the "loopholes" are actually sane, logical rules. Let's take one of the widely used ones: shifting profits by licensing IP. The companies Irish arm holds a load of patents, trademarks etc. They charge the UK arm a license fee for using them. This "loophole" can't be closed (easily). If company A licenses IP from company B, that is a valid business cost and company A can't be expected to pay tax on it. Seeing as a multinational's UK & IE arms would be separate legal entities, the rules can't easily distinguish between this case and the case of two entirely separate companies.

The tax system is complex, but it is complex for a reason.

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Yes, yes, Steve Jobs. Look what I'VE done for you lately – Tim Cook

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Re: Newton?

Actually, while there were PDAs around then, that did seem innovative to me (at the time). I don't have the time (or inclinations) to check if there was anything similar around then, but I had never seen anything like it: Touch screen, with "handwriting recognition". It looked awesome!

So I will change my opinion, they have produced one innovation.

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All this might be true, but once upon a time Apple was famous for designing and building innovative stuff which created whole new industries and redefined and reinvigorated old ones.

This is no dig at Apple*, but they have never designed and built entirely new and innovative stuff. They have made a success out of better versions of things which already exist, making them easier to use and/or marketing them better. They did so incredibly well, and used this talent to bring new technology to the masses, but it has always existed before they got in on the act. A non-tech person probably sees them as innovative, because they never saw the tech before Apple released it, but it still existed, in a form not too dissimilar from what Apple released.

* I don't like Apple or Apple's products, but I cannot deny their skills in making things easier to use and "cooler". As a tech junkie I have been using "smartphones" since long before Apple came on the scene, but I was always ridiculed for the choice before the iPhone came along. Their impact has been to package and market new technology in such a way that everyone wants it, even if they don't want Apple's version.

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Chipmaker FTDI bricking counterfeit kit

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If they are in critical embedded systems, they won't shouldn't have Windows Updates automatically installed (at least not directly from MS). They should be thoroughly tested before being applied. If not, they have noone to blame but themselves.

Although IMHO a critical embedded system should not have Windows installed full stop.

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Re: So Wrong

This is changing a setting in the device. It's not making the device blow up or wiping your hard drive. Stop being babies.

As so many have pointed out, to the average user it amounts to the same thing. All they are going to see is that their device suddenly stops working.

I can see why FTDI are clamping down. The drivers they supply are supposed to be for development use only. If their chips are to be distributed in a product, they should be getting their own IDs, assigning them to the chip, and paying for a licensed copy of the drivers with the correct IDs. This is even for original FTDI chips.

However, I feel they have gone the wrong way on this. They could have implemented this using a softer approach. For example, they could allocate one of their IDs as "Fake FTDI-compatible device", allowed the device to be used, but made it irritating (e.g. adding unreliable long term operation, frequent windows error log events, etc). This would not brick a consumer device, but would ensure the user knows they are using a fake. Possibly make the driver go into a "time limitted demo" mode. They could also ask the user to report the device, with possible discounts on equivalent originals if they do.

They way they have gone about this is, essentially, destruction of property (from the average user's point of view).

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Pay a tax on every gigabyte you download? Haha, that's too funny. But not to Hungarians

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Re: Are you a slave?

harder and longer

*giggle*

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ARM heads: Our cores still have legs ... as shares tumble amid 'peak smartphone' fears

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Re: Peak Processor?

You can add to that gold and many other metals.

Although you could always just use the universal label: http://xkcd.com/1123/

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Re: Intel threat?

It is a crack between the tables

Depends. Between tables and their existing market could be between the desktop machine and tables, which is quite a small space.

It could be between the under-desk tower unit and tables, which would often leave enough room for another computer entirely.

Or it could be between server and table. In our server room, we could fit 6-7 machines just on the floor between the rack and our table, so that would be a good market to target.

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UNIX greybeards threaten Debian fork over systemd plan

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There are many possible approaches to the system init process. SysV init is certainly not the best solution. It has many advantages, including how simple it is (I have written many init scripts for my own use), but it is quite messy, and pretty slow.

I have used upstart a bit. This seems just as messy, not as simple, but the parallelisation does speed things up a fair whack. This is very welcome on a desktop machine.

I haven't used systemd yet, so I won't comment.

However, when it comes to a server, I want tried and tested solutions which are simple to administer. I don't care if it takes longer to boot up, because it will rarely be shut down. My home Debian server, running on desktop-class hardware, has been running continuously for nearly a year, and was only shut down then for a hardware upgrade. Business servers get shut down only when absolutely necessary. A change from 1min to 30s to boot up makes no difference in most server environments.

What Debian need to do is preserve the choice. Allow people to use systemd if they want, but leave SysV init available too. I know this is a more complicated way to do it, but systemd is not suitable for everyone, especially a lot of their core users.

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Don't wait for that big iPad, order a NEXUS 9 instead, industry little bird says

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Re: Good budget tablet

My wife and I have the Tegra Note 7.

Brilliant bit of kit. OK, not much is "the best", but it does everything I need well. The stylus is really useful, the front speakers do a much better job than most for music, and it cost ITRO £130.

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Re: None have expandable memory

So true! That really bugs me too!

Especially when non-tech publications will say it has 16GB memory in one section (meaning storage), then 1GB memory in another (meaning RAM).

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Re: @AC I suspect Google will fail

I remember a game we played in business studies:

We divided into teams. Every team made widgets, costing £x to build. We could sell for anywhere up to £y, and could build up to a maximum number.

The teacher had a set number she had to buy, and would buy the cheapest first. The way the numbers worked, she would have to buy at least one from every team. The objective was to make the most profit.

When we started, we all tried lots of different tactics, trying to judge what everyone else was doing to get the price and quantity right. It turned out the best thing to do was to charge the maximum and make very few. The customer would normally have to buy them all, and would always buy at least one, which was enough to cover production costs.

The idea of the game was to teach about profit. It doesn't matter how many you sell, what your top line was, profit was what you needed.

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Jaguar Sportbrake: The chicken tikka masala of van-sized posh cars

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Re: Jaguars are astonishingly awful in the snow

Jaguars are essentially undrivable when it snows

I have a friend who drives a Mazda MX5. He now refers to it as the MazdaSledge(tm), after one particularly snowy period. He said more than once that he needed to start driving it in reverse, because that was the direction it always wanted to be facing.

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AndroidScript returns to Google Play Store: Ad giant YIELDS TO THE MIGHT OF EL REG

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Re: This isn't the Droid(tm) you're looking for

IIRC trademarks apply in a particular area. The Lucas trademark on Droid will be unlikely to cover this app.

Also, as there are many apps already out there using droid, he's obviously not actively defending it in this area.

So I reckon devs can just tell Lucas "These are not the droids you are looking for".

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Hey, non-US websites – FBI don't have to show you any stinkin' warrant

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Re: So the FBI's position is that it is legal for governments to hack US servers?

IANAL, but as I understand it the logic is:

The constitutional protections don't extend to the foreign nation. The protections are from the US govt. So, for example, a US agency would be violating the constitution if they forced someone to incriminate themselves, even if that person was in a country with no such protection.

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Big racks? Pah. Storage boffins have made a BIONIC BRAIN material

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While the synapse-like behaviour is an exciting prospect, I just want to see Memristors in storage/memory products.

They promise so much, but look like fairy dust. They have been promised as the answer to all our problems for so long.

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Chap runs Windows 95 on Android Wear

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Why would anyone want to spend time on something like this?

To quote George Mallory, "Because it's there".

Sometimes, the challenge is the most important reason.

It also minds me of my bosses attitude: "No time spent coding is wasted time". Of course he will be pissed off if we delay a project because something we did hasn't worked out, but we will have learned something in doing so.

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Vanished blog posts? Enterprise gaps? Welcome to Windows 10

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Re: Live tiles on the desktop?

So why not place them where users actually reside and do their work, instead of on one or more special menus that have to be specially invoked and opened or switched to?

I, personally, see the Start Menu far more often than I see the desktop. The desktop is covered by all my applications (the things where I, and most users, actually "do my work"). The start menu comes out when I need to launch something new. The desktop, on the other hand, is visible for a few moments when I first turn my PC on.

However, I do agree that having the option is a good idea. I just don't see how that is good in the enterprise, where people are actually doing work.

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Re: Docking

Great stuff, thanks all who posted the Win-L/R, that works great! :-D

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Re: Docking

I find half-screen docks incredibly useful

I have to say that I do too. I used to do the same by minimising all but 2 windows and doing "tile windows".

The only annoying thing in Windows 7 comes with multiple monitors. You can't seem* to dock a windows to the edge of a monitor which has another monitor next to it.

* At least I haven't found a way.

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UK reforms on private copying and parody come into force

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Re: Do the quotes have limits?

Can you, for example, quote a whole book?

According to the article:

the extent of the quotation is no more than is required by the specific purpose for which it is used

I guess you could say "I am using the quotation to get around copyright law, so I need to quote the entire work", but I doubt that would stand up in court...

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Re: Can The Register get a comment from Bono about all this?

To quote Bono('s character on South Park):

"Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah!"

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Leaked: Mobile operators' SCARE campaign against net neutrality

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The European Parliament proposals would therefore have rendered the UK Internet Watch Foundation's voluntary scheme unworkable.

I have to say... Good!

While I obviously don't agree with child porn being freely available on the internet, the IWF volutary system is a bad system. It relies on a bunch of unaccountable people effectively breaking the law (by downloading/possessing/viewing CP) to build a list which ISPs must "voluntarily" block in full. They cannot correct mistakes themselves. These busy bodies also are not legal authorities, so can (and have) banned legal images, which then affect legitimate sites who have very little recourse.

So, if the IWF is stopped, we should get an accountable, legal framework to do this properly.

Of course, this could end up being even worse, but at least it would be accountable.

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Want to see the back of fossil fuels? Calm down, hippies. CAPITALISM has an answer

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Re: Tim's hopes for solar and wind are doomed

Hard to get the virgins these days, Squire.

I beg to differ. Just go to a comic book convention.

Oh, you meant female virgins.

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Re: Hydrogen is bad

[Hydrogen] has very low in energy density (MJ/kg)

Actually, not true. Hydrogen has a pretty damn high energy density, approx 140MJ/kg. To compare, petrol is 46MJ/kg, so H2 is over 3 times as energy dense.

Where H2 is less impressive is in volumetric energy density. At best, it rates as approx 8.5MJ/l (in liquid form). Again, compare this to petrol, which is around 34MJ/l.

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Re: Clean energy NOW

I'm not saying H2 is not dangerous, just that all combustible fuels are dangerous yet we use them anyway.

I met someone from South Africa a decade or so ago. He was absolutely astounded (when he first arrived) that we pipe natural gas into our homes.

A lot of it comes down to what we are used to. If we were given a container full of H2, we would treat it very gingerly. However, we are happy to have simple plastic containers full of petrol chucked in the boot of our cars. I even ride a motorcycle at motorway speeds with 4+ gallons of the stuff nestled against my nads. We have large quantities of natural gas pumped into our houses constantly, without batting an eyelid.

If cars had never been invented, and someone came along now with the idea of a metal box weighing over a tonne, powered by a highly flamable liquid, capable of 100mph+, spewing noxious gasses out of the back, it would not be allowed.

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Payment security vastly improved when you DON'T ENTER your BANK DETAILS

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Why? Surelyit is easier to have your website open a window direct to your payment processor?

It also looks rather horrible.

This is not for a garden shed business, but a reasonably large beauty products distributor. We need to look professional.

A payment tokenisation system looks, to the average punter, as if they are sending all details straight to us. Instead, the form sends the details up to the payment processor and retrieves a token for us to charge.

Granted it is more complicated, but it looks a hell of a lot better than "OK, we have your order, now someone needs to take your money on our behalf because we can't be trusted with it".

WRT PCI DSS, tokenisation doesn't exclude you from it, it just reduces your scope, as you aren't storing any card data.

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We are currently implementing this on our new website. It's a great way to handle card payments: Sensitive info never touches our servers, it all goes straight to the card processor who gives us a token to use.

Personally, I could see this being moved even further away, right to the customer. Rather than them providing their card details, they generate a one-time code. This is then given to the online merchant, and they can process that one payment (and/or store it for future use, depending on the data used to generate the code). Unfortunately, this would require a standardisation on the tech involved in multifactor authentication, which banks seem unable or unwilling to do.

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Turn OFF your phone or WE'LL ALL DI... live? Europe OKs mobes, tabs non-stop on flights

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What's the worst that could happen, someone can't make a call for 10mins

That depends entirely on what the phone call is.

If it's some ****head taking loudly to his mates, fine.

If there is an emergency (e.g. the bus has crashed on a remote road), that 10 mins could be the difference between injury and death for someone.

Personally, I would say you are being just as much of a **** as those using their phone. You are imposing your own wishes on everyone else. What about those who want to have a text conversation with someone with their phone on silent? That would have no impact on you, but you are stopping them from doing so.

Some people just think their own wishes are more important than anyone else's. What society needs is more understanding and consideration from everyone. Your attitude is that 2 wrongs make a right.

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Apple 'Genius': iPhone 6? We've had NO COMPLAINTS about our BENDY iThing

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Re: Most people realise

"That accounts for 100% of the cases of dropping a phone in a toilet that I'm aware of"

I've heard of a few where it dropped out of a front pocket, but the funniest was a friend who had one of the Nokia phones with a waterproof case (can't remember the model, but the case split in half between screen and keypad). He found it easier to text with the case removed. You can see where this is going: texting while sat on the loo, case removed, slip, plop.

As for the iPhone issue, many people do keep their phone in their back pocket. If that's what they are used to, and it has never damaged their phone before, they are going to be peeved if they find their brand new, overpriced expensive device has bent under what they take to be normal use.

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Good grief! Have you SEEN BlackBerry's SQUARE smartphone?

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Re: "keyboard doubles as a capacitive multitouch trackpad"

"getting good at swype, not sure I really want to go back to double-thumb-punching"

With the touchpad layer, I could see swype-style functionality being added. This would have the advantage that you could feel the keys as you swipe over them, and could be incredible.

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Huawei: Our servers are a flash in the DRAM – thanks, SanDisk

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Re: Niche Market

Database servers and large data analysis systems, too.

Oh, and I'd shove one in my desktop if I could.

Come to think of it, if I could get lower capacity (and cheaper) ones, they'd be great for embedded machines. A single DIMM instead of a HDD/SSD (with all the additional cabling etc) would be great.

The more I think of them, the more uses I can see. I'm pretty sure they will be the future (storage on DIMMS, not necessarily using flash).

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Now I may be wrong here, but everything I have read on this contradicts what you have said.

They may or may not have a cache attached, like any SSD, but AFAIK the storage is flash. I do not believe it is physically possible for them to fit 200+GB of DRAM on a DIMM, or we would have seen them before. Also, the speeds quoted (for a single module) are in the region of SSDs (SATA SSDs around 550MB/s, these modules 1GB/s), which is WAY lower than RAM.

What makes them so fast is a mixture of fast flash (as is used on PCIe flash cards) and lack of interface bandwidth bottleneck. They also have a much lower latency due to inherent properties of the memory bus.

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European Court of Justice allows digitisation of library books

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Re: Copyright and reformatting: not an easy thing to "rule" on.

Buy a 'cheap' A4 sized print of a local artist's work; then scan and up-sample to A1 rather than paying for the large print in the first place. Is this fair?

I would say yes. You do not get the same detail in the smaller piece, and no up-scaling will bring back that detail. You may get a reasonable copy by doing so, but you will never have an A1 print, you will have an A4 print enlarged to A1.

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While I understand that certain measures need to be respected, personally I believe that if I own something in one format, I am morally (not legally in the UK, I believe) entitled to convert it to another format for my own use. So, if I buy a DVD, I will not think twice about ripping it, or downloading a copy "illegally". Books are no different in pure terms, although I have never sat there and scanned an entire book (as it is not worth the time and effort, to me). I have, however, downloaded electronic copies of books I already own from less reputable sites. Morally, I see nothing wrong with this: I bought it, I just want it in a different format.

I, personally, don't believe they should allow licensing terms which prohibit this, and I think it should be legal. If I bought a VHS copy of a film many years ago, why should I be forced to pay again for exactly the same content as an electronic copy? Same with eBooks: I have a large number of books, but now want to store them on my tablet or ereader. Why should I have to pay again (normally a higher price, even though there is no physical media)?

At the very least, I believe that you should be able to send a book back to the publisher and be granted an electronic copy (if not free of charge, at least for a very low fee). At least then they know you don't have a second copy, you have just format shifted the first.

The law needs to catch up with technology.

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Apple Watch will CONQUER smartwatch world – analysts

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Re: 129 per cent

Pebble - technical people only.

Why?

You get the Pebble, install the app on your phone, pair them, and then use your phone to install apps on it. I really don't see how that is for "technical people only".

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Re: 129 per cent

A tradesman who doesn't have to reach into his pocket to see who is calling or texting has already improved his productivity.

I actually agree with this, but have one thing to say in rebuttal: Pebble.

My brother bought a Pebble, and liked it so much he bought the Steel straight after. He likes watches, and has a large collection, but the Pebble is now his daily use watch. It does everything he needs it to, costs a lot less than most smart watches, and the battery lasts days. Alerts pop up for calls, texts, emails etc.

I borrowed his standard Pebble with a view to buying it. I had been thinking about buying one ever since it came out. Unfortunately, I'm not a fan of watches. They irritate me. I thought the extra functionality of the Pebble would sway me, but it doesn't. I got fed up with it after 3 days.

I love the idea of getting my notifications through without fishing my phone out of my pocket, but a watch isn't the way to go, for me. A pocket watch, though...

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To be hones, I, too, was shocked at the price, considering it includes the Idiot Apple Tax.

That said, I would guess* you need an iPhone for it to be any use, so you are already paying over the odds for that. That makes it a marketing tool to sell more iPhones than an actual product itself.

* That is a guess, I haven't seen anything to the contrary so it's a valid assumption, but correct me if I'm wrong.

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Hacker publishes tech support phone scammer slammer

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Well done that man! I'd happily buy him a pint in thanks!

I wish more of this was done. A true white vs black cyber war would be awesome!

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Flash data storage: Knocking TAPE off the archiving top spot

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Maybe

I could see low-cost, write-rarely flash taking over from disk as an archive medium if it was developed.

Currently, flash is being developed to give high access speeds, high density etc. If a mfr decided to, I could see "slow flash" being produced at much lower costs. Possibly more bits per cell, much slower reads with error correction, and probably a full wipe to modify data. The controller wouldn't necessarily need as many channels, it could access a string of flash ICs over a single channel, addressing one at a time.

It would take a manufacturer who wanted to do this, though.

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Google recommends pronounceable passwords

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While I, personally, like the "Correct Horse Battery Staple" method from xkcd (with my own modifications), I have had my own, similar, method for a while, which works around some limitations (like stupid sites which insist your password can be no longer than 10 characters, alpha-numeric only).

Firstly, come up with a phrase with 8-10 words (easy to remember), then use the initials of those words, along with some easy-to-remember substitutions.

Example:

"The Register is good for amusing IT news" becomes (without revealing some of my unique rules): "TRig4aITn". I haven't analysed it, but I believe it makes reasonably strong passwords, which are very easy to remember.

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Ferraris, Zondas and ... er, a bike with a 500hp V10 under the saddle

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Re: Viper-engined bike is not so strange

V12 Rolls-Royce Merlin inside a mini

Not quite as extreme, but I saw a Mini with a Landrover V8 (3.5l I think...) at a Mini Show 10-12 years ago. The guy built it for hillclimb racing, then found it to be completely unusable for that.

His words to me were "It's OK to drive, as long as the road is completely dry, and you drive it like you are on ice."

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Video: Dyson unveils ROBOTIC TANK that hoovers while you're out

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Re: A true Roomba competitior..

In terms of price I have zero doubt it will blow everything out of the water including my car.

I may just be blowing hot air (ba da boom, ching) but I think I heard that it was going to cost about £750.

If so, it doesn't quite blow my car (£700) out of the water, but it does beat it.

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Google flushes out users of old browsers by serving up CLUNKY, AGED version of search

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Re: Obnoxious

So it's now personal preference rather than an actual hardware issue that's stopping you going back to FF.

Only partially.

I do use FF and IE for testing purposes. FF is still wasteful of memory, and (in my subjective opinion) is no faster than Chrome. So, even if I have lots of RAM available for it, FF uses more memory to achieve the same result, which results in less being available for the myriad of other tasks I perform, which leads to lower overall system performance.

So maybe it is personal preference. I prefer to have a system which makes the best possible use of the resources available to it. I prefer for a machine with a set hardware specification to run as fast as possible. I prefer not to have to spend additional money just to make a system run as well as it can, when a simple software choice can do that.

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Re: Obnoxious

Is it relevant to today?

OK, let's take today.

My own PC is just a slightly upgraded version of what I had before. I've added a bit more RAM, a new graphics card (the old one died) and an SSD. Maybe, with 6GB RAM, I could go back to FF, but why should I? Chrome does the job, I've gotten used to it, and it still uses less RAM, meaning more RAM for everything else. In addition, it "just works" when it comes to syncing data with my phone.

At work, my place has standardised on Chrome, so I stick to that. The dev tools are good, and again it does the job. We also have a lot of lower spec machines (many still running Vista) which will not be replaced until they become unreliable, and these run better with Chrome than FF.

My wife has a new laptop, now, and she uses whatever she uses. I don't get involved any more, as I get in trouble if I "mess with it" or "break it".

So, for me, yes it is still relevant. I only used FF before because that was what I had been using for many years. It took a lot to get me to switch, but now I have, it will take a lot for me to go back (and a lower memory footprint would be a very good start).

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Windows 7 settles as Windows XP use finally starts to slip … a bit

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Re: "hard core of folks"

But what on earth must people be on to still use bloody Vista?!!

In many ways it baffles me, too. However, from a normal user perspective which version of Windows they are on makes little difference to most users. All they want is a PC on which they can use the web, read emails, do a bit of office work etc.

Take the (baffling to techies) case of my wife's grandfather. I upgraded his machine from Vista to 7. Shortly after, he insisted I put it back, because it was too different and he preferred the way Vista works. In the end, it is these users who will stick with Vista, just because it is what came with their machine. To them, a PC is an appliance. So long as it does what they need and is easy (for them) to use, they won't upgrade the OS. When they want a new computer, they will buy one, and use whatever OS comes with that one, too.

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