RE: RE: Giving credit to Oracle (for its SPARC roadmap) where credit is due
Looks like Novatose has forgotten about the Sunset too! In case he's forgotten, he got the "Novatose" moniker for his continual hyping of the long-anticipated Rock server lines, even after it became obvious to the rest of us that Rock was a zombie just waiting for a mercy killing.
"....you spelled Solaris, and various other words incorrectly again....." As I have previously reminded you many times, the moniker "Slowaris" was given to Solaris by Sun's own customers due to our unhappiness with SPARC-Solaris's performance. Pretend all you like, that's a simple fact.
"....at least appear to be credible...." Given your previous and hilarious outbursts of Sunshine (e.g., "Rock will not be killed", "Sun is not up for sale"), I'm sure there is no way I can appear credible to such a self-certified Sunshiner! You carry on keeping The Faith, don't let that little old Sunset event or the loss of Prophet Ponytail deflect you, just don't expect the rest of us to suffer from such delusions.
"....It seems Oracle has released several refreshed several lines of their own servers since the Sun acquisition....." Hmmmm, you mentioned a spell-checker, ever think of using the grammar-checker? All Oracle have done is slap new badges on old Sun designs that were already available or already in the works. Oracle has released no server truly of Oracle's own making yet, and it looks like the next gen top-end servers are just going to be more badged Fudgeitso kit.
"....after dumping former HP boxes in some integrated system lines...." Well, Larry did inherit a whole stack of servers no-one wanted to buy, I'm not surprised he'd want to burn through that old Sun stock, especially after hp had done all the tricky engineering and integration for him. It obviously didn't register with you that hp shrugged and carried on being the leading server vendor, whilst Snoreacle is still third tier at best.
".......The Oracle T3 platform over doubles performance over Sun T2 platforms...." Just not in the way customers want. Stop talking the "throughput" drivel, that only matters to webserving, it's irrellevant to the single-threaded apps most customers want to run. A three-year old Xeon server can thrash a T3 server with real applications and real data.
".....suggesting otherwise logically suggests HP has no "top-end offering", because HP stopped making systems with Alpha processors...." Oh dear, just showing your lack of knowledge again! You forgot PA-RISC, which was caning UltraSPANKed for years before Sun finally went to SPARC64. It had already been agreed between Compaq and Intel that Itanium would replace Alpha before hp bought Compaq. Unlike Sun, Compaq and hp saw the fact that traditional RISC CPUs were reaching their design limits and both moved on before they destroyed themselves. Sun presisted with UltraSPARC, failed with Rock, stumbled with Niagara, and saw their company value crash from a 2000 peak market cap of $200bn to less than $4bn. If Oracle hadn't saved them (after IBM and hp both turned down the opportunity), then that would have been the end of SPARC right then. Even then, even Larry admitted his original intent was to buy just Sun's software business but he got stuck with the hardware failure as well.
".....The T4, which is already in the lab...." So, more unproven vapourware arguments. Hey, didn't the Sunshiners assure us Rock was "taped out" right up until it got killed? And if all T4 does is place itself "between the former CoolThreads systems and M systems" then I'm not impressed, it will be slower than current Power or Itanium and probably x64 with the apps us customers actually might want to run on it. It may be finally suitable for replacing the old UltarSPARC IIIi kit still out there on a like-for-like basis, but seeing as I can already consolidate old UltraSPARC onto Lintel blades, at a better than one-to-one ratio and for a lot less money, I'm just not impressed.
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