2146 posts • joined Sunday 20th December 2009 13:24 GMT
An important question
"asking her to reconsider her decision to block the aerial photography – especially since Apple had secured permission from other Western capitals."
Was the permission from other capitals granted before or after the world knew the name "Snowden"? Maybe now is not the right time to be asking...
I know dick-all about Apple...
...but aren't they supposed to be sleek and white? Colourful volume buttons might look a bit, you know, childish.
A phone that isn't stuffed with operator crapware that you can't uninstall.
I think what will make or break this is "app" support, namely, is this going to be a high end feature phone (does what it says on the tin and nothing else) or a low end smartphone (can do stuff the user wants to do). Apps for streaming radio (the CPU is okay for that), SCP/telnet, (okay, spot the nerd!), useful stuff - if not processor-intensive video and/or games.
"there's no way the data that has been collected could be used to identify an individual."
Well the interesting thing is what is actually necessary to identify an individual. I posted on my blog a while back about how Android's prompt of "Will collect anonymous data while using GPS" could very easily be a big lie. For a start, the data will not be completely anonymous as there is no point in collecting random totally anonymous reports. It will be tied to something, like the phone ID, so multiple reports from this phone will be collected together. If the GPS system reports location when turned on or off, over time there may be enough reports in the same place to take a guess as to one of them being a home location. If, like me, you live in the back of nowhere, then it's a very very simple matter to look at the location and determine the address. If you live in a town, it may be harder depending on the type of property, however this can be tied in with other locational data such as "phone with this ID connects to WiFi router with this SSID", and so on.
There is no actual necessity to know your name up front in order to determine exactly who you are, and while it may fail in urban sprawls, it's good for many many individuals.
Now, read again what was said in the article: "Renew, which said the collected data was "anonymised" before it was analysed, hoped to use this technology to track footfall in shopping areas and perhaps even show tailored adverts to people as they walked by the bins."
Ask yourself at which stage the data was actually "anonymised" (and has it been proven to be so by independent audit?). I ask you this because tracking where people walk requires a continuity from point to point. Likewise, displaying adverts to people (adverts, from a bin?!?) requires not only maintaining a continuity but also retaining that information so that relevant advertising can be shown in the future. I am making a leap by suggesting advertising relevance, but this is surely what is meant as there is no point tracking a person to show non-relevant advertising, you get that all over the place already. So how anonymous is anonymous? If it can remain connected to your phone, possibly not so much. And, then, while the data itself may be fairly innocuous (a MAC address is basically a bunch of random-looking numbers), when coupled with other technologies it can start to be a little less anonymous. Cameras, for instance. However, even without that, if data is retained from session to session, guesses can be made about you based upon your travelling speed, where you stop and start, the time of day, and if you linger in any particular places. One or two sessions might be seemingly random. More might start to look like a pattern. Patterns can give insights into people's lives. There is a difference between a person who runs in to Mothercare at half one in the afternoon, and a person who regularly slouches into Ladbrookes at eleven in the morning.
Remember - being anonymous doesn't mean "they don't know your name"...
Chuck 'em ALL in jail.
It's about time we enforced an "ask then do" policy instead of an "oh crap we got found out" one, and we need some stiff sentencing to dissuade other outfits from trying similar things - especially when tracking (anonymously or not) is done without consent, option to request not to be tracked, and in some cases informed consent could not be given anyway due to the owner of the device not being an adult...
Re: I agree...
About the Pi - I just discovered RaspXBMC. That and an HDMI to VGA adaptor and an old 17" 1280x1024 LCD monitor and suddenly there is something more I can do with my media. I try to avoid 720P as my 1.8GHz netbook doesn't like it much; the Pi copes and barely even warms up. Given an Android's mobile of similar spec stutters like hell on HD, it's quite impressive what the Pi can play. I also like how you just switch SD cards and it is doing something completely different. I find it to be friendly, flexible, and simple to use (having everything on SD which can be easily changed is great). Yes, sure, there are better options, but how many cost ~£30?
This is news?
"the so-called wisdom of crowds can often be misleading."
It's called a general election and it falls in to two camps: better the devil we know versus this guy has got to be better than the last guy. Amped up more for Americans where they appear to vote based note upon personalities. In most cases, the actual attributes and policies count for less; and the public are swayed by so-called analysts and experts. In most cases, we could question how many people voting actually understand what they are voting for.
I read this yesterday
And since then have seen two large chain supermarkets and three smaller shops running XP Pro on their POS. How do I know? The inactive terminals with the screensaver that says XP Pro in big letters. :-) Also I believe many of those instamatic photo booths use XP. I know two types in France do because of times when the UI crashes and you're dumped back in to Windows. SocGen cash machines use Windows; don't know what version, it was frozen on BSOD. Crédit Mutuel uses some flavor of OS/2, saw one stuck in a reboot loop back in '06, which might seem a long time ago but I don't think these things get replaced frequently.
Given this, I think XP would have a huge following outside of the desktop. After all, I've run a slow but usable version of XP on a 466MHz Celeron with 128Mb memory and an 8Gb harddisc. Can you say that for any modern version? Might be able to push the spec lower by cutting out all the unnecessary things. Embedded stuff isn't going to be cutting edge...why should it be? Most of the time it is likely to be doing very little so a lower spec makes sense and keeps costs down.
Re: Funny that . . .
I had a disc crash. Was farting around, dropped a screwdriver on it...
The most usual failures I have experienced is age. The bearings or something give up, so when you power up an old drive, it either does nothing at all or the thing spins up but the heads are stuck.
But yes, never a disc crash that wasn't my own stupid fault.
I'm not a denier...
...I would agree that action needs to be considered, given our propensity for building large cities at the edges of oceans. We are, evidently, still coming out of the last ice age (what I was told in high school science). This suggests that the planet has been warmer in the past (there is evidence to back this up), and will likely be warmer in the future. While humanity's actions are not exactly helping, it's ridiculous to believe that we alone are causing the heating - because that is likely to lead us to the misguided attempts to limit CO2 and raise taxes then we can all solve the problem. No. We can't. This is something way bigger than us, and maybe it is time to consider something more concrete than arbitrary limits that can be traded with other nations and additional taxes. We have paid eco taxes for a while. So where are flood defences for the major cities? When will the rivers and canals be dredged so heavy rainfall has somewhere to go? Oh, that's right, environmental taxes don't go on useful environmental things. So some day in the future the quiet country dwellers will be caught in the middle of a bitter bloody civil war as millions are displaced with nowhere to go and decades of them in charge saying "we need more wind turbines!".
Just a small quibble about the analogy...
"You can't take eight lawnmower engines, put them together and now claim you have an eight-cylinder Ferrari."
You're right, you can't put eight mower engines together to make a Ferrari. But we aren't talking eight individual ARM chips here (that would be very silly), we're talking cores on the same chip with a degree of commonality - same data and address bus, same clock... Well, let's take the core of those eight mower engines, the cylinder, and stick them into one lump of metal, feed them from a shared fuel supply, connected to a shared exhaust system, and synchronised by being connected to the same crankshaft.
Gee, starting to sound like a rough description of a V8 engine, isn't it?
"Now that I think about it, I don't think it's me."
Are you sure? Or are you just trying to throw us off the scent?
Re: Call me old fashioned...
"the only thing is, no way could a whole new episode be filmed and edited without a few dozen people knowing who it is, so it would definitely leak out beforehand."
Sure it could. Pick the person you want, pick who the bookies favour, get a couple of others onboard. Film the same episode four/five times (well, only the new Doctor's part) - call it their audition. The final final absolute final choice will be made on the day of broadcast and we'll find out...by watching the programme.
Could be even funnier if they use their status to get some other well known people to play along - OMFG, Helen Mirren as the new Doctor?!?!? I can imagine the entertainment columns now.
Re: Is this more political than technical?
Hmm, just looked that up, so I'll withdraw my comment. The question I have now is why are they using a known defective SoC in a production device, and given this, who'd want to buy one? It seems...silly.
I get that the mobile phone market is cutthroat and all, but when you're shooting yourself in the foot, might be time to rethink?
Re: Posting it twice won't make it happen...
Are you replying to me?
"So, by that logic, if I called Al Capone "a crook" because he did crooked things which I could prove, he would be able to mount a successful defence against my slanderous comments, if I had failed to also call Frank Nitti a crook."
No. That isn't what I said. I do not expect Samsung to be able to claim defamation (at all) if the reports are entirely correct. Who or what has been defamed by reporting the provable truth? It is possible, however, that Samsung could try claiming journalistic bias and unfair reporting; a consideration for discrediting the report itself (akin to the "We All Do It, Why Pick On Me?" - or The Lance Armstrong Defence, perhaps?).
[update: it looks like Anandtech may have picked up upon similar behaviour from others; re. the updated post linked below; if so, this'll close that avenue of approach and Samsung will just have to lump it; although I must say I found Samsung's response to be...bizarre.]
Likewise, I wouldn't expect Al Capone to claim slander if he can be proven to be a crook (though given his line of work, just shooting you might have been more productive than a pointless legal tussle...).
"A little late in the night for coherent thought?" - and a little late in the night for reading what was actually said instead of drawing (incorrect) conclusions?
Posting it twice won't make it happen...
"Which means they probably could be sued for defamation."
Samsung might be able to sue Anandtech for providing skewed reports if Samsung can find just one other manufacturer that does the same that was not picked on by Anandtech; however I very much doubt that Samsung will have much in the way of grounds to sue for defamation if Anandtech's little revelation is entirely truthful (although depending on where Anandtech are, Samsung might be able to clobber them for poking around the binaries and some measure of disassembly).
If I was a Sammy guy, I'd be inclined to say: It's simple. When you are running a benchmark you want to know what your device is capable of. When you are using it normally, you'll want to trade processing power for battery life - you don't need to run everything at full speed. (duh.)
And, if I was a Sammy guy, I'd be inclined to tell the techs to write a better resource scheduling thingy that responds to system load instead of specific known signatures.... and to stop hiding incriminating-looking crap in the binary blob. ;-)
People, and the company, are going to want their product to look great in the artificial benchmarks despite real world requirements rarely needing so much power. It is a bit of a braindead way to do it, as opposed to something like monitoring system load and switching up when the extra oomph is required.
And yet, people would bitch and moan if their battery life sucked, because not only do we want it faster and better, we want it smaller/thinner/lighter, meaning a big chunky battery to run the thing is out of the question.
And yes, my response would be the same for Apple; although with slightly more sarcasm.
Re: What I wonder
"Don't they have some kind of legal rights to compensation?"
Most of the DMCA request thingies I have seen state that you must specify the following in a takedown request - "I swear, under penalty of perjury, that the information in the notification is accurate, and that I am the copyright owner or am authorized to act on behalf of the owner of an exclusive right that is allegedly infringed" - which means that the person/organisation is specifically claiming to either own the copyright of the thing in dispute or be acting on behalf of the owner.
There are a few high profile cases of an ass-kicking for misrepresenting copyright ownership in this respect (ie http://www.eff.org/press/archives/2004/10/15 ) though I reckon takedowns vs ass kickings weighs extremely heavy on one side. For starters, going legal costs money and it is a big headache. I suspect cost/location/inconvenience stop many people with illegitimate claims against them or their content from seeking restitution.
Perhaps the law should be amended that any organisation that files ten false claims is considered vexatious and all further claims from them would be automatically disregarded. But no, I rather suspect the parasites doing this are behind the lobbying that makes it all possible.
That self-obsessed little busybody really needs to look at the average comments on YouTube. Her brain will explode Cronenberg style (fuck-yeah!), and then the world can carry on being a fucking joke without pissants attempting to dump their shitty old-fashioned morality on the rest of the world.
No, seriously... Some people swear. They think it makes them look hard, though it usually makes them look kind of stupid. Some people don't swear. Some people make a big fucking deal about how they don't swear. And some people swear for ironic effect. And...?
"Spooks from GCHQ and MI5 will be given insider access to the UK's top 350 companies"
Given that spooks from this side of the ocean seem rather happy to talk to spooks over the other side of the ocean (and that's only the stuff we know about), if my company was big, important, and had competitors in the US, there is no way in hell I'd willingly let them anywhere near the business.
It's pretty bloody audacious for spooks to be saying ANYTHING at all right now.
Was walking down a country lane waving my SE Xperia Mini Pro in the air like a lunatic trying to get some sort of signal. A barn owl took interest, scared the crap out of me, phone took a tumble from something like two metres on to tarmac. Burst open, stuff came out. Oh crap oh crap oh crap. Put it back together, powered up, did the *#*#SERVICE#*#* thingy to run the tests.
Result? Dinged back cover. That's all. I was impressed. But I don't hold the phone in the air any more.
Re: Lost control
"It asks you during the initial configuration, "Backup my settings to Google servers"." - which is good except for when you buy your phone from a place where some clueless dick decides to "help" by "setting it all up for you" - as if you are considered incapable of reading simple instructions despite the fact that the so-called assistant took three attempts to get the SIM inserted correctly despite the fact that it only goes in one way!
Thankfully I knew about Google's opt-in-data-spew so I turned it off the moment the guy handed the phone to me. And set the correct time zone. And changed the PIN from 0000. And turn off auto-sync. Etc.
I used to go through the drive through on a bicycle. But this was back in '93 when there was still a modicum of sanity kicking around. For the people who say it is unsafe, what's so unsafe about putting it in a backpack and then going home? What the hell do you think I'd do if I went inside and ordered take away? Or are the McEmployees supposed to act as nannies now and tell me "you can't do that!"?
In 2002 I saw a horse take a dump all over the entrance to a McDo here in France. Not sure if it was accidental or not, one doesn't tend to want to get close to a skittish horse right by the doors. And yes, I have a crappy resolution photo around someplace. ;-)
Re: Donating to a small charity or booking into a little hotel...
"Good luck trying to contact them to remove your details long after the transaction has concluded." - could care less about that. I use a virtual card that is its own number and is authorised up to a specific amount. As far as PayPal can see, I use a different card each time. I must remember to delete expired cards (or PayPal will whinge) plus I get emails warning me of the expiry of my cards.
When PayPal registers as a bank, is subject to banking practice, acts like a bank instead of their seemingly arbitrary behaviour, and follows the same rules and laws as banks, and agrees to the use of the official ombudsman instead of their unspecified internal investigations, then maybe I will consider letting my PayPal be linked to a bank account. Until all of the above conditions are met, the answer (even for "verification") is a simple flat no.
I pity those who use real plastic on PayPal, and suggest that they see if their bank offers virtual cards[*].
* - My bank, FWIW, takes the approach that plastic card payments will be outright rejected for on-line payments (anywhere and everywhere). Only virtual cards will work.
Lord Jesus Christ your Creator
Oh, you're one of those people so confused you can't tell who is who. The Lord, aka God, might have created me. Jesus sure as hell didn't.
Not that I believe this rubbish anymore - just pointing out that "Lord Jesus Christ your Creator" is ridiculous.
The picture in the Daily Mail has what looks suspiciously like a negative sign in front of the numbers.
Is this officially sanctioned by $DEITY? Does this mean $DEITY accepts the internet? Is it okay to permit $BELIEVERS to interact within the realm of demonic filth and piracy that is at the other end of that LAN cable? Is this really an exercise in $TEMPTATION ???
Re: Start with lower goals
"A fly's ability to navigate and evade danger, find food etc are quite remarkable."
Ah, but is the fly remarkable, or is it able to evade you so well because its 2GHz clocking speed far outstrips your 90MHz clock? To a fly we are lumbering slow-motion jackasses. We only get them effectively when we learn how they fly and aim there rather than at the fly itself, and even then the fly can evade if it notices in time.
As for food...it's a fly. Everything is food.
Re: your arrogance remarkable .
"Windows phone OS is the most smooth, modern, well designed the OS" - I think I just wet myself. Excuse me while I stop laughing...
Smooth is hard to define, but I think a system that is capable of showing an error box and making the "ding!" at the right time is able to be called "smooth". When Windows is busy, the two can frequently be unsynchronised for the first ding! in a while. I guess separate processes draw the report window and play the sound, but it can be disconcerting to hear the ding! after I've dismissed the message.
Modern? I guess Windows RT/Metro/Modern/Whatever is indeed "modern" if you define modern as looking like AOL in the late '90s. Maybe you weren't around then. I was, and I still remember those damn weird CompuServe email addresses.
Well designed? As in pile everything into C:\Windows\System32 (etc), stuff all the settings into a huge monolithic settings file, and have FAT repair/recovery software that crashes if there are actual real faults in the disc structure (there's a reason I do most of my FAT repairs on a Linux box), to to mention in the day I made a few euros for myself fixing XP boxen that would bluescreen at start-up with UNMOUNTABLE_BOOT_VOLUME. In goes Hirren's CD, load the NTFS driver, run ntfschk, sorted. Why the hell couldn't XP have done that by itself?
Or maybe you meant well designed as in the UI, not the OS itself. In which case I would say that it would be a really shitty deal to try to use a touch-specific OS like Android on a desktop machine with typical desktop machine interfaces (you can get by, for sure, but how does one "pinch" using a mouse?). Touch metaphors and BIG BUTTONS belong on smallish screen touch devices. Small icons and traditional input metaphors belong on traditional desktop devices. For some reason Microsoft are trying to mix all this up. Yuck.
and the whole process might take weeks, if not months
...if at all.
I notice Google frequently update the Google Play Services (over 3G too, when I've told Play not to update anything when not on WiFi - bastards); yet this highlights a stunning flaw in the Google system which is unable to differentiate between system specific stuff (up to the manufacturer) and genetic operating system stuff. It is no good saying that it is up to the OEMs and not Google for they entered into this knowing full well what the market is like, the many phones on sale with Android 2.3.x and the lack of "official ICS" for numerous devices because manufacturer and operator have your money and no longer give a f....
Quite simply, it should never have been set up in such a way as to require the cooperation of this many indifferent organisations just to patch a flaw in the operating system.
"The ethos of America is personal responsibility." - really? Isn't that "personal responsibility" defined as "it's your fault"?
Re: A fishy rebutal
"Same for drivers."
Dunno about you, but when it comes to driver level code, I would prefer for the compiler to compile the code it is given. No less, no more.
Re: It is all about efficiency
"So why can the San Diego last 3 days."
Meaningless gibberish argument. I'll explain why. My Android phone, in normal use, needs to be charged daily. If I'm running Navigation with GPS and stuff, it might conk out after 4-5 hours but this is highly dependent on conditions. I can't be more accurate as I tend to run it off a doohickey in the lighter socket. It is an Sony Xperia U. Oh, and it periodically fetches mail, has an animated front screen backdrop, all the sorts of stuff that uses processing power.
By contrast, my backup alarm clock is my older Motorola Defy. I have trimmed the software in it, optimised the settings, and it has connectivity turned off. I charge it roughly once every two weeks.
Yes, an Android phone can run for more than two weeks on a single charge. Not exactly the truth as most people would understand it, but not a lie either.
Re: Dev[e|i]l's advocate....
"The point is this is a benchmark which is supposed to show a comparable performance using the same source code compiled into binaries for each CPU."
Surely the real point of a benchmark is to measure processing speed, data throughput, number crunching power, etc. There is a need to run supposedly identical code to get an idea of real world performance, however for working out the raw power, it should be assembler.
Re: Dev[e|i]l's advocate....
"If I can improve the performance of my program by doing nothing but choosing a different compiler, why shouldn't I?"
The problem is, if simply changing the compiler can result in such different results, can you really claim to be testing the processor, or is it the compiler you are testing? If a clever optimising compiler skips bits and reorders others, are you testing the processor or the compiler?
To my mind, this stuff ought to be written in assembler by a clever person. Them we'll see what the system can do as opposed to how good the compiler is...
Americans, not content with starting pointless conflicts on other continents, now plan to do the same with other PLANETS?!?!
Oh, yes, they say it is weak, they say it is for measuring distance, but just wait until the targeting had the bugs ironed out - it'll be easy to ramp up the power until it is a Weapon Of Friggin' Unbelievable Destruction (WOFUD)...
Dear Mr Snowden
The people you are trying to enlighten are fickle and mostly stupid. But you got the debate started..
Not the same as PRISM
As the likes of The Daily Mail like to gloss over, the French are mostly snooping on the French. You'd be a fool not to think your own government is spying on you.
PRISM, on the other hand, is the Americans snooping and profiling everybody who is not an American. There is a world of difference there.
Funny, I thought being a patriot meant following the American ideal and the Constitution; not being a dumb slave to whatever bullshit version of reality the government agencies are working to today.
Xyratex comes in a little glass vial. (A little glass vial?) A little glass vial!
Okay, okay, I'm going...
Re: France has denied
As a person living in France - my opinion is that Monsieur Hollande doesn't have a sense of humour. Or a personality. Or much in the way of a clue. It must say something that Chirac is being done for corruption and Sarko is likewise not to mention being led by anybody flashing bling at him; yet those two are way more popular than the current incumbent. If he doesn't get his act together, the bloody national front will be more popular...and that's not a good situation for a country like France.
Hotspot on my phone? No thanks!
Both my Xperias (Mini Pro (not X10) and U) offer hotspot functions. Dead easy to use. The problem is when you connect a WWindows machine to the internet - a lot of things think it is a free-for-all when it comes to data. Are there updates? Should something be downloaded? Windows itself and the antivirus are the worst offenders, but every so often Firefox tells me if stuff has been updated, blah blah.
On WiFi, it's no big deal. On mobile comms, it is unncessary deductions from the monthly allocation. I played with the hotspot function once, but really, there's practially nothing I can't do on my phone and should something not be possible on the phone, I can wait until I'm back on WiFi...
That said, it seems as if the basic advice is "use a good password" and not the defaults. Duh.
My Motorola Defy had a nice boring braindead simple RSS reader that did exactly what it said on the tin (and nothing else).
Google Reader app looked nice'n'flashy, but seemed pathologically inclined to try to download everything repeatedly even if nothing had changed, and in the case of some services, to present me with a list of thousands of items pulled from the BBC RSS feeds I used to look at. I dunno, the BBC feeds themselves don't have that much stuff in them, I think Google Reader just kept retrieving and adding the newly found stuff to what was there even if nothing changed.
If any Android devs are reading - what I'd like is a simple RSS reader that I can set up with a list of feeds (ElReg, Hanners Anime Blog, BBC news, etc) and tapping a feed will list what is in it, tapping the item will either open it in a browser or expand it to display anything that didn't fit in the little list entry with a click-to-read (depending on how much work you fancy doing; styles and icons optional too! and don't bother to remember unread items, just show what's in the RSS file). Nothing else. No social networking integration, no Facebook "LIKE", no it-does-twitter-too. Just simple, boring, functional. Any takers?
"I actually want to see a storyline where we see the future war between the machines and the humans."
The Matrix ? (before sequelitis went and screwed that up)
Too late to the party?
The mid-late eighties (85-87) was wild. Old clunky eight bit hardware won't do any longer. The BBC Micro became in 1981, and just four short years later the Amiga made its debut, along with the Atari ST. We'd transitioned from an eight bit world to a 16/32 bit world. Perhaps more importantly we'd transitioned from hardware with limited addressing capabilities (in the order of 64K direct) to hardware with much more generous amounts of memory on board. The Acorn Archimedes, the first true 32 bit machine, arrived in '87. So wanting to promote the bigger better MSX take-two for Christmas '87 seems a bit... um... well, look at the competition. Sure, these bigger better machines weren't cheap (and as an owner of an Archimedes, I know they were amazingly expensive) but what they were in comparison to the cheap kit was not something that could be answered by looking at hardware specs. I got a lot out of my Beeb. I briefly owned a Speccy which I used to play games, and in the end I gave it to a friend who used it to play games until he got an Amiga. My Beeb was used for coding, and lots of fun with Econet. As for the Archimedes, I'm still with RISC OS today, albeit on something very different and raspberry-flavoured.
tl;dr: Just look at the dates mentioned here and then do some research. The MSX was going to come and blow away the dross of the scattered home computer market. Only, by the time it arrived, the home computer market (still scattered!) blew them away. We'd moved on. And how. T'was a good idea though, software compatibility, and and idea that would be revisited in style with the birth of the PC market, which was also starting to make waves in the same time frame.
Re: Girl in the Sony ad
Yeah, and you can tell the mentality of the people the advert is aimed at.
Cute girl - HUGE FACE SHOT. Computer? Product? Something? Kind of small and down in a corner. Look at the girl. Look at the girl. Look. At. The. GIRL.
Re: It was training in autism.
"Much later did I realize that, had those editors not been clueless brats they would have included error-detection and possibly correction codes." - one of the Acorn magazines (Acorn User?) included some sort of checking method to see if you made any typos. As a sufferer of dyscalculia, this was in itself a deterrent against making errors, what with a column of scary-looking hex beside each line of code...
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