1638 posts • joined 21 May 2007
I think they want to keep the brand alive. Nokia Networks is the main business to day but the brand in that world is not as visible. Perhaps one could as well call the N1 a Foxconn device branded Nokia and that is not to say Nokia has nobody left with experience with such devices.
@ Marketing Hack, I remain very skeptical too regarding the internet.
While it's so easy to criticize the UN we should remember it cannot be better than we deserve and that there are parts of the UN that are doing a very good job after all. "Throwing out the baby with the bath water" and such things.
Is big business.
Not anything about OSS I hope, but on a more "serious" note, I believe we have all had dogs fucking up our legs, and I have known guys who in the morning did not believe what they had managed to fuck up. All about us "men", I would think. My old mother once told me she liked wild life programs on the telly but that she was a bit fucked up with all the fucking in each program. I think there was a program showing two fucking whales, first ever on TV and I think they got the Pulitzer Prize or something. I think some boffins are too obsessed with animal sex, high time of course seen from a Victorian perspective. And I am sure there must have been a shepherd who fucked a sheep and then ate it. Sometimes I think that happened to the Neanderthals too. I miss a shut up icon badly.
Re: It's not Europe's problem to fix
Yes and no, but more yes as we live on the same planet, as I like to think, and we use the same clouds, not that we should perhaps, something Apple, Microsoft, HP and other cloud giants are understanding too. And what the heck, Microsoft is an expert on this as they had to bend before the EU when American companies asked the EU for help, Rather confusing but nothing new, and I would agree that the US DoJ should wake up after falling asleep, as I think, at the end of November 1963. (Almost like yesterday).
Oi, the World!
Re: I hope they can retrieve and analyze a sample!
I hope so too, but what's wrong with a dirty snowball, the amount of water in the comet is of great interest like the "dirt" too. Fingers crossed in my coat.
FTC tells 'scan to email' patent troll: Every breath you take, every lie you make, I'll be fining you
Re: Point of responsibility?
SCO tried the same with Linux users and some did pay.
Re: The REAL problem was building it in San Francisco, California
"from the Norwegian viewpoint, US liberals apparently count as conservative". A link please, perhaps the Google translate fooled you. You Americans are so damned fooled by those totally worthless "one" words. When kids in kindergarten point their finger and call each other this and that. you smile and I smile at you. A one word language is not worth much. ugh Ugh ugh ugh UGH! ugh... ugh?.
On the other hand if "liberal" is "conservative" then everything is going towards the extreme where the "left" and "right" meet in what is sometimes called fascism, not a good spot, no matter how many tins of food you have in your bunker. Try "common sense", that is a good start, two words, and there is no left or right to it. Eventually it might lead to the ability to use several words in a sentence.
I have for many years tried to find out how the hell something like Palin was allowed to enter the circus. Now I think it's all about a takeover by big money, Crook brothers and similar have decided to support the most stupid people they can find. Look how far, all the way to Alaska, they had to walk in order to find her, Dear Americans, next time vote for the people with the smallest budget You are being screwed. Look closer, you deserve better. I am not choosing the "animal" for you, just try to vote for the least stupid available.
Oh well, this was about Google, then long ago, I expected them to do floating, water cooled, data centers they could move around the world, I was wrong, and I think they did not bother about any regulations.
Re: Clean your room
Yes, I think they need some mothers up there. Kids playing with soap bubbles, looked very similar when I had a few at home.
Re: I'm really not sure who I hate the most.
Keef, cheer up. For no Governments, Telcos and Newspapers try Somalia for instance, and hating the world going to the pub doesn't compute.
The way your wife would explain wrecking the car, (in a cartoon). Still I would not blame the Russians, they have made extremely fine engines and as a Finnish General once said, if there are more than two moving parts in a Russian engine it will break and in a rocket engine there are less,
Joke alert, but only partly.
Re: I'm wondering
I am wondering too "those that are not there (Facebook, Twitter) are the ones who are weird.". I totally disagree. And what about this "Kristina Persson's voice does not extend to the internet however." Is the internet really now Facebook and Twitter.
Nothing against Carl Bildt who "ran a not inconsiderable part of Swedish foreign policy through his personal Twitter account" and built up a stockpile of over 100,000 tweets"
It's just that it is/sounds so damned stupid that it makes me totally speachless. It would, however, make me happy if the pope built up a stockpile of over 100,000 tweets regarding condoms.
Oh dear, haa haa and haa haa.
Re: Am I the first one
Am I the first one
Who cannot get any sound off of this. or is this something about the fox or did Linus say something or what the hell is going on. I do expect there to be sound, no matter how stupid, and no matter how stupid the video. Please.
Re: Sun's latest FIERY BURP
"Maybe it was a fart. Who can tell the Sun's head from its butt since it's a ball". Experience, experience my friend, all you need is a fart and a match and you will know where your balls are, or did the world pass you without a fart.
Re: The Neanderthal must have been really drunk...
@lawndart, "Being able to tell a story does not detract from his ability as an anthropologist," That was exactly what my post was about. And I do appreciate him in both respects.
" Neandertals were attracted to Cro-Magnons/Early Modern Humans because the details of the latter's physiology, such as lack of a heavy brow ridge.....", That part is the fantasy part, and I would assume anybody understands that. (like did Björn Kurtén).
I can hypothesize that the Neandertals were attracted to Cro-Magnons/Early Modern Humans because they lacked the knowledge of how to produce alcohol. You know the way it went in the Americas later.
I find my story more fun and more possible.
One idea, thought, Björn had was that it would be fun if one could have ones fathers, say the last one thousand sitting, side by side, along a table. Then you could walk along and see what made you and you could pass a nice joke down the table and the son would pass it on to his father. Fun.
Now I had this dream one night.
It was splendid, the venue with the long table was by a nice lake. The sun was shining, birds singing, the white tablecloths where swaying slightly in the warm wind. There was lots of beer and wine, (the water was in the lake). There was plenty of food, beef and hamburgers, the odd pizza and fruit. Plenty.
There was hugging and kissing, laughter. Father and sons swimming in the lake together. I haven't seen you for a thousand years, dear father. What heaven did you go to, or hell perhaps, he he.
But in the morning, as I woke up with a hefty hangover. It was a complete mess, not a drop of medicine in sight, broken chairs, overturned tables, bloody table cloths, broken bottles, some hamburgers and a pizza in the process of drowning in the lake. My head hurt. Some fathers where lying in the damp grass trying to move. All the rest had gone.
Without trying to stick to any chronological order about what seemed to have happened, there was a father who met with the son who killed him. There was the father who looked at his son said "who the hell are you, a damned foreigner, I cannot understand a word, prick, where is my son. The reason for that problem was probably that the father was a good looking shoe salesman who traveled the world. There was a similar case with the mother who met a foreign army in the woods, not really her fault, of course. There was the father who looked at the son and said "what the hell, I have tried to forget about you for six hundred years, where are my good sons, who the hell has arranged this, computers, my arse. And there was this huge viking who stood up and declared, not my son not my father and went totally bärsärk. I was told he took off to walhalla in order to stay alive. On the other hand there was some happiness too, like the son who found out that the janitor was in fact his father, something he had wished for since a kid.
I have to stop here or you might not believe I belong to a well educated and clever family. Some things have to stay in Las Vegas, as they say. The joke, not good at all, missunderstod, lost in translation.
I have had to come to the conclusion that if you wish for something then think first. Pity Einstein did not write any stories.
Re: The Neanderthal must have been really drunk...
RIP anthropologist Björn Kurtén but one has to remember that he was also a story writer, author and that allows for more "fantasy" in those stories.
Time for them to leave.
Nothing about people who surf Linux sites, use Tor and/or encryption.
A bit unfair
I haven't seen much anything new "gadgets" by anybody else either, perhaps there is a limit to it. Or just tell us what new you where thinking about. Perhaps Apple should do a Google and expand beyond hand held gadgets, cars and stuff like that. All I can think of right now for Apple to "improve" would be glasses and binoculars.
"You sir are either an idiot or a New World Order thug...". Or just marketing Apple and Google. See what happend to me when I read too many conspiracy theories.
Re: "We need to fix this problem. It is long past time."
!984 was a story not a promise and you are doing quite well.
Competing on taxes
Is a race to the bottom. Already to day, there is this feeling that companies will eventually pay no tax at all. And, that is splendid of course was it not that "we the people" will have to pay it instead. Taxation within the EU should be the same. There are many more intelligent means to compete. And EU what about getting rid of the tax heavens. You have talked about it for years now.
Re: Ignore him
"He seems to be trying to tell us what we should think".
What the hell, "seems to be trying to", hove damned difficult is it for you just to understand that he (and I) would like you to take part and stay in the EU. He is not alone. But lets start from some time ago.
Not long ago Cameron had his rumpus about "a bad day for Europe", poor bastard, What was that all about, as far as I know he was not looking to be appointed, nor did he have any own suggestions. Hes problem was that nobody came to ask for his advice (there was somebody from Hungary, a country with a President a disgrace for it's people). Poor bastard, what a life, all those funny countries, all those funny languages, please HM Queen give me a veto, please, please let me deal with the EU as a one to one, (as with India or Australia in the good old days) not as one among 27. Hell.
Cameron also speaks about national interests and that is fine, every country have national interests, but all other EU countries consider EU as “a national interest”. Stronger together, similar regulations, laws the market and so forth.
A work in progress.
But Cameron will not get it. Again he dreams about a one to one power with the EU.
I had a look at comments on the BBC and of course there was those who suggested that GB should return to the old happy Empire and I can well imagine how he infront of Australia and New Zealand starts by saying “Hello chaps, due to my national interests I have decided that...” hehe.
I do understand that the Russians are in the middle of a "Post Empire Psychosis", I understand that Americans are afraid of one, but some of you Brits (and the BBC) just seem to cling to it forever. The sun does set on the empire, but nobody hates you. What the hell is it with you. You seem to find even the closest neighbour odd, Welsh, Scots, French, Americans, Germans, cats and dogs (foreign). Long ago there was a English author who wrote that the Brits have been so involved in studying other people that they have forgotten to study themselves. One of the things that have worried me is that you Brits have no problems with words like "poor schools" and "good schools". There should not, in the vocabulary be any "poor schools" and listening to Cameron I have my doubts about the "good schools".
I do admit that while studying Computer Science in Rugby I loved to walk around the School weekends admiring all the fine cars, RR, Bentley, Austin, Jaguar and a MB600. But what are those kids learning, the history of the Empire, perhaps. Perhaps there are some similarities between Nokia, the GB and Microsoft, living in the past.
Alexander Stubb reminds me of Daniel Ricciardo, all teeeeth, all smiile, good physics, all positive. Daniel is, however, a good F1 driver and Stubb a Prime Minister. I am. to some extent, a bit worried about Stubb as I have this feeling he has no time to look in the rear mirror. Take the trade agreement with the USA, that is all GO for him, but he seems to have no time to sit down and read the small print. On the other hand he will stop. turn around, very quickly without any problems whatsoever, if there is a need for it that he can understand. And I agree, if there is a rock ahead, turn.
This was, however, about "Finnish PM: Apple has DESTROYED FINLAND" any Finn will understand that it was about "if falling asleep you will be hit by apples or potatoes or bricks, your sauna will burn or whatever."
How would Cameron express this, would he, could he.
I am sure you know very well that Apache has been well ahead during the last 15 years, no matter how you count it. It's all at netcraft.com. And as OSS was mentioned Nginx has a BSD-like license too, and what do you think Google is based on. Not that it matters but why are you getting so upset about it. Are you upset about the top500 computers too.
A funny one, "it’s not food that’s to blame for the rise in obesity but lack of exercise.".
That is, it's still the food when we do not exercise enough, was it ever differently?. Is this news.
And the "UK government’s “food and family” datasets", nothing to do with statistics there.
I do believe some people get fat more "easily" than others, on the other hand, as a broke and hungry student I knew very well that visiting fat friends was always more revarding.
Let down by a lousy UberX driver? They probably skipped the 'optional $65 customer service training course'
Re: Just one question...
"Or am I missing something?" Perhaps not, but I think you are writing about London and I belive there is no similar system anywhere else. Or perhaps I am missing something.
Re: No thanks
@san1980, I don't know how it works in different countries and having to go to court to find out is not funny. It seems to me that those companies want to take the money but will avoid any responsibility. And what about insurance, any at all. I know there are shit drivers and poor systems as it is, too. But mending shit with more shit might not be the solution. So for me, no thanks, for now.
The Forbes story is worth reading.
"“Uber’s more concerned with flooding a market with a supply of drivers than they are with the quality of the product and the safety of their passengers.”
"Its terms of service, like those of Lyft, Sidecar, and similar sharing-economy startups like Airbnb, make it clear over and over again that they are not liable under any circumstances for bad things that might happen when you use the service."
“YOU EXPRESSLY WAIVE AND RELEASE THE COMPANY FROM ANY AND ALL ANY LIABILITY, CLAIMS OR DAMAGES ARISING FROM OR IN ANY WAY RELATED TO THE THIRD PARTY TRANSPORTATION PROVIDER,” Uber’s terms of service say."
Re: The proof is the axing of Maemo/Meego
"Elop axing Maemo/Meego was proof that he didn't intend to save the company. If he wanted to do that he'd have brought out the same handsets for Symbian and Maemo/Meego, perhaps if he really saw Windows Phone as a potential alternative, he could have brought out the same hardware with Windows, too. That would have been possible at next to no cost overhead."
Yes, not sure about "no cost overhead" but perhaps the simple truth is that he knew nothing about running a company and nothing about phones, just totally worthless for the task.
Re: Um, no...
@ Andrew Orlowski
I suppose you have not read the book, nor have I, but as far as I know the authors do write that there are no evidence of Elop being a mole. The burning platform was a silly thing though. Nokias problems started before Elop, that is why he got the job. Personally I think he overestimated Microsoft also as he left his family in Canada I think he never intended to stay on for any lengh of time at Nokia. I find it very difficult to consider him a good choice for Nokia and I would blame the board for a stupid decision, also McKinsey & Company was an odd choice by the board as it is very close to Microsoft. Also they claim that Nokia got a better offer from Google.
The header at Tietoviikko.com is this “Stephen Elop ei ollut myyrä vaan tunari” which translates to “Stephen Elop was not a mole , but a screw-up”.
But as they say there is always several reasons for a catastrophe.
Re: Great stuff.
I had to look at the history of the Concorde on the Wiki. Politics and relationships and rather amusing details like this.
Reflecting the treaty between the British and French governments which led to Concorde's construction, the name Concorde is from the French word concorde (IPA: [kɔ̃kɔʁd]), which has an English equivalent, concord. Both words mean agreement, harmony or union. The name was officially changed to Concord by Harold Macmillan in response to a perceived slight by Charles de Gaulle. In 1967, at the French roll-out in Toulouse the British Government Minister for Technology, Tony Benn, announced that he would change the spelling back to Concorde. This created a nationalist uproar that died down when Benn stated that the suffixed 'e' represented "Excellence, England, Europe and Entente (Cordiale)." In his memoirs, he recounts a tale of a letter from an irate Scotsman claiming: "[Y]ou talk about 'E' for England, but part of it is made in Scotland." Given Scotland’s contribution of providing the nose cone for the aircraft, Benn replied, "[I]t was also 'E' for 'Écosse' (the French name for Scotland) — and I might have added 'e' for extravagance and 'e' for escalation as well!"
"You have to admire the brilliance of a man that while dead can contribute to the design of a phone"
Let me help you with that a bit:
You have to admire the brilliance of a man that while JOBS IS STILL dead can contribute to the HYPE ABOUT THE design of a phone.
Please Mr Cook I know the Soviet Union loved Stalin but are you not going a bit too far for a bit too long or are you keeping him in a freezer or already stuffed up for a mausoleum in the Apple doughnut.
Time to stand on your own legs perhaps. Not since Elvis and Jesus have we in the western world seen anything like this.
I don't know, but if it replaced some story about some marriage/divorce I am all for it
Re: Your shortcut gems?
Touch typing or eight or ten finger typing or what ever. My advice to anybody, especially yong programmers is to learn if. You will never regret it (nor will the company you work for). It's not only faster but you can keep your eyes on the screen and forget the keyboard and your fingers. In fact I would suggest companies who employ people to demand it. I remember a guy who sat in the same room as I and I was very impressed with the sound of his typing until I found out more or less every second keystroke was a back space. The text progressed like a drunk man, a few steps forward and then some steps back, and there it tried to go forward again. And yes, I did shut up he was quite a good programmer all the same.
And now I suppose you think I am a superb touch typing guy on my high horse, but I am a lousy, about three finger, guy.
At school we where given the opportunity to learn touch typing but then slightly later starting as a programmer there where at first years of numeric machine code and I lost it all.
Even now writing this I am pissed off as I know I could have finished long ago. I can only blame my self, and I do.
As for short keys I would assume people prefer the Ctrl +/- to the mouse.
As a rather Linux user I prefer the mouse to Ctrl C and V, but that is an other story.
"They are the product of their history". Indeed, it all started when Windows was let loose on the internet.
Re: 3,520 pints a day?
How many blueberries a day?.
It's smarter to stick to a dumb phone.
El Reg will test a Jolla phone soon.
Why, I pay taxes, you pay taxes, we pat taxes. Why should Apple not pay their fair share.
My solution to this is to never by any Apple gear, never use Starbucks. As far as I am conserned they can just fuck off, or behave.
Re: When Nokia Networks shared a bed with Siemens...
I met some of those German Siemens guys and some told me they wanted Nokia to take over completely as they liked the Nokia culture more. One guy told me that in Siemens you had to approach your boss through his secretary while in Nokia you just knocked on the door or sat down beside him at lunch. One guy told me they had some twenty pages of instructions on how to introduce people and how to say "Hello".
I have worked in IT in Germany without any cultural shocks although I did indeed find it difficult to remember every family name as they are used al the time not to mention the correct title, but I learned to throw in a “Doktor” when in doubt and nothing was lost.
Perhaps some German guy with the inside information could write about it.
Yes he/she is hän. Google translate will suggest he but also she. As a programmer I have played with the idea of writing a program that would run through the text trying to find out if it's he or she. You would try to find the name of the person or something about the hän to help you decide, Quite a task for a computer and no problem for a human being if you know Finnish. When the Finnish woman was able beat the he or she out of the language we don't know. There is a certain democracy in "hän" I think. Not surprisingly the Finnish women where the first to grab a complete right to vote according to the Wikipedia:
"Finland was the first country to have universal suffrage. First country to give the right to vote and right to stand for elections to everyone of age regardless of wealth, race or social class."
To understand the Nordic countries you have to understand that they are four season countries and that you had to provide for the winter during the summer or you had severe problems. Compare that to the southern part of Europe. About 200 years ago 1/3 of the Finnish population died due to a long winter and the short summer. Some of the "social" in Nordic countries I think is due to the four seasons.
And no, my American friends, a social cat is not a socialist.
An Arctic country, the Arctic circle cuts through northern Finland, Sweden and Norway. But i still find it a bit difficult to consider Helsinki or Stockholm arctic towns, not that it matters. Helsinki is at 60N like northern Canada.
Light summers and a dark winter are the same round the globe N and S at that latitude.
Re: Windows Ukulele?
Thanks, the first that made me smile, don't know why though.
With due respect
I have drowned four phones, one gave up the ghost, one is waiting to be rescued at the bottom of the sea. and two survived. My fault, although I think they could and should be more water resistant.
I have destroyed a number of headphones. How I hate the sound of that. I have sat down on each and every phone too, at numerous times but without breaking any. Why would I buy a phone that will bend when I know that regardless of how much respect I poses I will fail sooner or later.
From "you are holding it wrong" (perhaps we should forget about that by now), to "show some respect", what next, "your voice is too loud" perhaps.
Re: The curse of a slow metabolism and a fast pie-arm
@ CADmonkey, "Stop blaming the world.".
Not sure about that. I had a look at "the most obese countries in the world" and among the first seven you find the USA, New Zealand, Australiia, UK, Canada, and Ireland. As It cannot be the language (joke alert) it has to be the food industry. The Americans but sugar in the milk, Tesco puts sugar in their sausages (as kids love it!!).
You should be concerned, and pulling all restrictions on that industry is hardly the way to go.
It is indeed about the world we live in.
The sad truth
I have it from reliable sources that the girls had an ENORMOUS HOOTER too and that the guys hated it and that was the sad end to it. A sad story.
Perhaps or perhaps not. But not long ago it was (can you remenber) brands like Motorola, Ericsson, Nokia. Things change, imagine if every car manufacturer gave up because of Toyota and VW. It would be better if no company had a market share above 10%. Many companies are far too big to day.
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