249 posts • joined 24 Nov 2009
Express, Connect, Create, Play...
But will it Work, or even Sell?
I'd love it to be true, but....
There are far too many people in corporate IT departments who know nothing but Windows, and what MS tell them. Nobody ever got fired for buying IBM^w Microsoft.
Gosh Windows fanbois are bitter.
That would make Android fanbois alcopops then?
Re: no sympathy here
In principle I agree, but it's ironic that my paid for email service (take a bow, Gradwell!) managed a similar if not longer outage last month, so "not free" if not necessarily any better.
Well, they're half way there...
Re: iPhone 5 adaptors goldrush begins
Quite right too!
Have an upvote & please accept my apologies!
iPhone 5 adaptors goldrush begins
And The Register makes it's cut out of all of us drones commenting on how we hate/love/don't care about Apple, of course.
Re: The new Office doesn't ship?
Touch screen devices are all about data consumption, not data creation, so why would you want to start a new document?
You didn't believe all that hype from MS anout Win8 being useful (useable?) in the enterprise now did you??
Thus by your own admition you are afraid of change.
You are Joseph Heller and I claim my £5
Re: its rubbish
But what would Samsung owners talk about if it wasn't for the iPhone??
(Can someone wake me up when the smartphone jihad is over!)
Re: Waste of my time
"I'm sure you said the same when you changed from Wordperfect in DOS to Word in Windows."
But if you had to use Word for Windows without a mouse, would it be an upgrade over WP?
On a tablet, the (ugly, to my eye) Metro UI may make sense, but like many oythers here I use a keyboard and dual monitors for most of my work and I can see precious little advantage in moving to touch-sensitive monitors. Can't see any point, don't like being pressured.
You're safe - there's plenty of prior art for THAT joke!
Sorry, what is USP?
I suspect it's a USB port, but one of the pins is bent.
Re: Software Patents = Retardedness in the Extreme
How prophetic was this headline then? http://adr9.home.comcast.net/~adr9/MG/Pic/MP1f4.jpg
(Disclaimer - I used to work for Applied Data Research, and still think time limited patents, held by the inventors of genuinely new and significant techniques are reasonable, especially where FRAND applies.)
"Since the Iphone platform has never been the number one platform..."
Indeed, that's why I didn't write "platform".
Re: @tirk RE:".......there are laws against that?"
By no means an Apple fanboi (thanks for the insult), just pointing out that Samsung *also* did something wrong. Nice to see all those knees jerking whenever Apple is mentioned!
"Can't compete? Try copying the market-leading product."
What do you mean, there are laws against that?
Re: why would windows phone 8 succeed?
"Nothing has changed since the abysmal failure of windows phone 7."
Except now people are begining to see the same interface on their Win 8 desktops and notebooks...
So what's worse than "abysmal failure"??
1. Car boot sale
2. Take bricks apart and tie into pillow case.
3. Wash on gentle in washing machine
Result - Cheap, hygenic Lego for kids.
(Me, I chewed the lead paint off Meccano whan I was a kid!)
"Windows 8 and Ultrabooks now look even more important."
They're doomed then.
Suddenly I feel so old.
I remember the first transmission.
Re: How many students did they kill in the process?
No students, but many Bothans....
"This is a crazy amount of apps. "
It may or may not be crazy, but it's definitely a number, not an amount!!
(Kids of today - I bet all the nostalgic humour of Wack-O! would be lost on them, sadly.)
Re: Windows 8 compatible
Interesting that secure boot is a requirement to get this logo, but a touch screen (which you actually do need to make Metro useable) isn't. Now what should we conclude from this? Either a/ MS care deeply about the security of their users or b/ MS care deeply about the security of their revenue stream?
Re: What Julian Needs...
If they used a spanned zip he could fit in the standard sized ones!
Re: Excuse my ignorance...
Well shucks, isn't 21 bigger than 20?
When will NASA enter the 21 century and adopt rational units??
Re: What I don't get
Last year I moved from WinAmp to iTunes (on buying an iPhone!) and whilst iTunes is undoubtedbly odd and frequently counter-intuitive, it does do the job (I don't recall a single crash after a few when it was first installed, incompletely) and does have a few cute and possibly unique features (Genius mixes, smart playlists...)
I suspect rather like Outlook, it's not as bad as people remember now!
Big difference from Google Nexus
Google arguably created Android to provide a friendly mobile channel for their existing business, and created Nexus to help the adoption of Android. They have no interest in Nexus per se, but similarly they have no interest in Android either, except that it helps keep a slice of the mobile market for all things Google (for example, Apple dropping Google maps for iOS 6).
Microsoft, by contrast, seem to hope to make money out of Win8 on the tablet itself, especially as the Arm version includes Office, which is probably the most expensive software many people have on their Windows PCs.
Along with Apple (who make quite a bit out of apps, but mostly I think out of hardware), that makes for 3 significant players with very, very different buisiness models. Could be fun over the next few years!
Re: "Phone 7 users won't be able to upgrade to Windows 8"
Anyone who invests in release 1 of any Microsoft software is going to get their fingers burnt in several ways - this is just another of the inevitable "fails" of an MS first go at something new.
A better question is, was WP7.5 release 2, or is this?
Re: "...Metro capable devices will overtake iPad by next Summer..."
Hardly comparing like with like here. "Metro capable devices" include phones, laptops, desktops and any Surface tablets that they may manage to shift. "...iPad" ignores the bulk of the iOS base, iPhones.
And the bulk of iOS users like iOS, whereas the current consensus is that the bulk of Metro users by next summer (desktop/laptop users) will hate it, as it just gets in the way of them using "traditional" Windows applications.
Lucky then that international terrorists, crime bosses and the like will never think of that!
Re: Metro on the desktop
> Most of the genuine complaints about Metro involve desktop machines
Yes of course - but that's where MS make their money, now and for the foreseeable future. There's no margin for MS on phones and tablets, as they are only profitable as hardware. I think that just leaves ganes consoles as a revenue stream for MS, assuming they stick with Metro or bust.
Good luck with that!
Re: What the hell are MS thinking.
Phones. Possibly tablets.
Definately not PCs or notebooks.
Re: Microsoft already did it!
Yes, but Windows 8 is all full screen, and has banned windows!
Re: Go SpaceX
I watched the lunar landings. This feels like it could have more long term significance TBH. (Though I was similarly optimistic back in '69 as I recall)
Punch card input and a teletype output??
Re: Of course the tech's similiar to Google's.
How can you steal Imaginary Property?
Re: As far as the tablet market is concerned, what about the gorilla in the room?
Here are a few reasons why Win8 may be less than a stellar sucess on tablets.
MS traditionally sell through inertia/corporates ("I've never heard of Linux"/"It's what we use at work") on Desktop/Laptops. Now Win8 doesn't look to be a roaring success on devices like these, that aren't touchscreen. Indeed, many corporates may be very slow to move from Win7 to Win8, and may miss it entirely, so people won't see Win8 at work. What's more they are much more likely to know of alternative OSs on tablets, and to see them as more consumer oriented ("sexy") than anyrthing MS produces.
What's more, MS *never* *ever* gets anything radically new right with the first release. The thrid is normally the first acceptable one, and allowing WP7 to be the first in this particular sequence, that ties in with the weaker statistic that every other main OS release they produce tends to be sub-standard.
MS have a real fight on their hands to get into the tablet (and phone) OS market. They have deep pockets, and can play a long game, but they need to, unless they want to go the way of IBM and become a company that only deals with the corporate sector.
Re: WP7 does seem a bit "Marmite" doesn't it?
Subtle difference. People "like" WP7. People like and *buy* marmite.
WP7 does seem a bit "Marmite" doesn't it?
There are those that hate it, and there are those that seem to be being paid to fluff it at every opportunity (there surely can't be any other reason to love WP7, can there?)
"A phone is not a PC... a PC is NOT a phone"
Perhaps MS have decided that the real OS money is in consumer devices (pads & phones), but are failing to sell WP7/Metro as it looks "different" (there are other reasons, but I bet the's what MS thinks!). So get people used to it via the desktop and Win 8, which they will have to use?
Essays on their own are the problem?
There will always be ways of plagiarising if essays alone are used in the internet age, be it wikipedia or essay-writing services. In my day [ ;-)] essays were combinde with tutorials, where you had to demonstrate knowledge of the contents of the essay, and intelligently defend your arguments. But I guess that's too expensive now.
As Win 95 (which introduced the Start button) used "Start Me Up" by the Sones, should Win 8 (which removes it) use Kylie's "(Can't Start) Giving You Up" perhaps?
Re: Heading in the right direction
You do reaslise that if you don't post using your own name, you can't claim the marketing dollars, right?
If it's *possible* to be serious about this...
I think it would be a shame. As it is in England where the once common "Gropecunt Lane" has been changed to "Grape Lane"and the like. I think language *should* challenge occasionally, and, yes, cause the odd awkward conversation with children.
This will be fun - I'll get the popcorn!
Hang on, I work in IT :-(
Re: Let's hope this isn't the beginning of the end
IBM haven't recently appointed a new CEO who used to work for Microsoft perhaps??
WP7? No thanks!
As WP7 can't do something as basic (which all my previous PalmOS, Win6 and current iOS phones can, as well as many Android) as sync via a reliable and secure USB cable with Outlook, why should I downgrade to it?
(Plus the UI looks like it's been designed for my gradmother by Fischer-Price!)
"Connect to your computer"
(Optionally) went with iOS 5 & iCloud AIUI.
I don't know which is more sad...
The non-sequitur anti-Apple troll or the madatory thumbs up rating for his rant. The Register really is turning into the smartphone section of Have Your Say (RIP).
- Review Apple iPhone 6: Looking good, slim. How about... oh, your battery died
- 'Kim Kardashian snaps naked selfies with a BLACKBERRY'. *Twitterati gasps*
- +Comment EMC, HP blockbuster 'merger' shocker comes a cropper
- Moon landing was real and WE CAN PROVE IT, says Nvidia
- Apple's iPhone 6 first-day sales are MEANINGLESS, mutters analyst