217 posts • joined Tuesday 24th November 2009 14:47 GMT
Re: Win 8 / Metro GUI - is it a joke?
Ah, sort of like the plot of "The Producers"? If so, Ballmer's lucky - I can't see Win8 being anywhere near as liked as "Springtime for Hitler: A Gay Romp with Adolf and Eva at Berchtesgaden".
Trollfest 1: Real news 0
Welcome to El Reg.
If my kids are anything to go by...
...it's probably the pubic hair rather than the nudity they objected to. Seems to disgust anyone under 40 - weird!
Epic train-crashes normally tend to be explosive!
" the review is clearly intended to be provocative to help page clicks..."
Well it worked then, the Fandroids are out in force, which means the other lot will be along in a minute.
Neither side waiting to read the article of course.
Re: Do you expect me to talk?
Oblig. XKCD link - http://xkcd.com/123/
"So, he's stating he's confused by a device he's never laid hands on."
You'd never find anyone on el reg commenting on a product they'd never used, now would you?
A bit sad to drag him out TBH
...to try and shift this snake oil.
Gates changed the IT industry. The only way Balmer is doing that is by driving MS nearer to bankruptcy.
"Hybrid PC/Tablets" are fine, but I think the problem is that Win 8 needs to be hybrid too. At the moment it seems like a phone/tablet OS with a few grudging afterthoughts to keyboard/mouse use.
Next thing you'll be saying my monitor is not the computer!
No, the tape drives are (he said, showing his age).
NUMBER of people!
Didn't they teach you anything at troll school??
I'd love it to be true, but....
There are far too many people in corporate IT departments who know nothing but Windows, and what MS tell them. Nobody ever got fired for buying IBM^w Microsoft.
Re: no sympathy here
In principle I agree, but it's ironic that my paid for email service (take a bow, Gradwell!) managed a similar if not longer outage last month, so "not free" if not necessarily any better.
Well, they're half way there...
Re: The new Office doesn't ship?
Touch screen devices are all about data consumption, not data creation, so why would you want to start a new document?
You didn't believe all that hype from MS anout Win8 being useful (useable?) in the enterprise now did you??
Thus by your own admition you are afraid of change.
You are Joseph Heller and I claim my £5
Re: Waste of my time
"I'm sure you said the same when you changed from Wordperfect in DOS to Word in Windows."
But if you had to use Word for Windows without a mouse, would it be an upgrade over WP?
On a tablet, the (ugly, to my eye) Metro UI may make sense, but like many oythers here I use a keyboard and dual monitors for most of my work and I can see precious little advantage in moving to touch-sensitive monitors. Can't see any point, don't like being pressured.
Re: Software Patents = Retardedness in the Extreme
How prophetic was this headline then? http://adr9.home.comcast.net/~adr9/MG/Pic/MP1f4.jpg
(Disclaimer - I used to work for Applied Data Research, and still think time limited patents, held by the inventors of genuinely new and significant techniques are reasonable, especially where FRAND applies.)
"Since the Iphone platform has never been the number one platform..."
Indeed, that's why I didn't write "platform".
Re: @tirk RE:".......there are laws against that?"
By no means an Apple fanboi (thanks for the insult), just pointing out that Samsung *also* did something wrong. Nice to see all those knees jerking whenever Apple is mentioned!
"Can't compete? Try copying the market-leading product."
What do you mean, there are laws against that?
Re: why would windows phone 8 succeed?
"Nothing has changed since the abysmal failure of windows phone 7."
Except now people are begining to see the same interface on their Win 8 desktops and notebooks...
So what's worse than "abysmal failure"??
1. Car boot sale
2. Take bricks apart and tie into pillow case.
3. Wash on gentle in washing machine
Result - Cheap, hygenic Lego for kids.
(Me, I chewed the lead paint off Meccano whan I was a kid!)
Suddenly I feel so old.
I remember the first transmission.
Re: Windows 8 compatible
Interesting that secure boot is a requirement to get this logo, but a touch screen (which you actually do need to make Metro useable) isn't. Now what should we conclude from this? Either a/ MS care deeply about the security of their users or b/ MS care deeply about the security of their revenue stream?
Re: What Julian Needs...
If they used a spanned zip he could fit in the standard sized ones!
Re: What I don't get
Last year I moved from WinAmp to iTunes (on buying an iPhone!) and whilst iTunes is undoubtedbly odd and frequently counter-intuitive, it does do the job (I don't recall a single crash after a few when it was first installed, incompletely) and does have a few cute and possibly unique features (Genius mixes, smart playlists...)
I suspect rather like Outlook, it's not as bad as people remember now!
Big difference from Google Nexus
Google arguably created Android to provide a friendly mobile channel for their existing business, and created Nexus to help the adoption of Android. They have no interest in Nexus per se, but similarly they have no interest in Android either, except that it helps keep a slice of the mobile market for all things Google (for example, Apple dropping Google maps for iOS 6).
Microsoft, by contrast, seem to hope to make money out of Win8 on the tablet itself, especially as the Arm version includes Office, which is probably the most expensive software many people have on their Windows PCs.
Along with Apple (who make quite a bit out of apps, but mostly I think out of hardware), that makes for 3 significant players with very, very different buisiness models. Could be fun over the next few years!
Re: "Phone 7 users won't be able to upgrade to Windows 8"
Anyone who invests in release 1 of any Microsoft software is going to get their fingers burnt in several ways - this is just another of the inevitable "fails" of an MS first go at something new.
A better question is, was WP7.5 release 2, or is this?
Re: "...Metro capable devices will overtake iPad by next Summer..."
Hardly comparing like with like here. "Metro capable devices" include phones, laptops, desktops and any Surface tablets that they may manage to shift. "...iPad" ignores the bulk of the iOS base, iPhones.
And the bulk of iOS users like iOS, whereas the current consensus is that the bulk of Metro users by next summer (desktop/laptop users) will hate it, as it just gets in the way of them using "traditional" Windows applications.
Re: Metro on the desktop
> Most of the genuine complaints about Metro involve desktop machines
Yes of course - but that's where MS make their money, now and for the foreseeable future. There's no margin for MS on phones and tablets, as they are only profitable as hardware. I think that just leaves ganes consoles as a revenue stream for MS, assuming they stick with Metro or bust.
Good luck with that!
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