189 posts • joined Tuesday 24th November 2009 14:47 GMT
I'm glad I wasn't the only sad one who checked Wikipedia for the usual suspects ages!
Video of Apotheker's statement here?
...a clever strategy for building an eco system.
MS are playing a long game here, a several years long game. They can't compete with Android or iOS yet, and current apps frankly work better on Win 7, but they are betting on their dominant position to make TIFKAM the GUI people use at work, and the one they see in high street PC vendors over the next few years.
Personally I don't think it *deserves* to work, because they have put the GUI ahead of the applications (you know, the thingies most people actually use a computer for). But I fear it *may* work, due to their close, almost incestuous relationships with corporate/retail customers. Like IBM in the '70s, no-one will get fired for buying MS.
Re: Sony rated higher than Apple?
I'm guessing it's an "aspirational" rating then. No-one who has actually experienced Sony kit in the last few years could possibly rate it above toxic waste IMHO.
HP "usual scenario"
Is there any truth to the rumour that clown cars are the new executive transport there?? Certainly fits the recent management style!
Good term! Tight Facebook/Twitter/whatever integration may be great if you want it, but is worse than a useless feature if you don't, or just don't want to share your FB contacts with your other social/business groups(*). 86% of the world's population don't have a FB account after all.
(*It may well be that WP8 allows easy separation of different contact groups, but it's perception as "a FB phone" will make people think otherwise.)
Re: Surprise, surprise
Quite. The "new entertainment" (games, music - though that's a different market) funds the platform. For me the most useful software that doesn't come with the OS is probably Citrix receiver (which presumably makes it's cash in other ways).
Re: Really? Is that the best reference you can do?
Yes, but finding "shit to say about Apple" works on el Reg. Just look at all the commentards and voters falling over themselves to prove how superior they are just because of their choice of smartphone. This place claims to have a "vast IT Professional community". Heaven help the IT profession if the votes and comments here are in any way representative.
Re: ...the mighty sword of truth and trusty shield of British fair play...
...won't mean a damn if the US decide to extradite them (no evidence needed) then offer them a plea bargain (18 months in an open prison if you plead guilty, or 30 years in a supermax if you make us have a trial).
See, they were guilty all along!
Re: And to think they broke a nice, functional desktop interface for this.
But it's the nature of the beast. The MS business model requires users to constantly "upgrade" (am I the only one to still use keyboard shortcuts because I can dig them out of my memory before I can find what I want in the &!@#ing ribbon?) Incremental change (sometime called "improvement") just won't persuade us to buy the same things again these days, so we have to be *made* to want completely new things every few years.
The lesson for MS is that unless they change that business model, they must eventually be history. Perhaps not this time, but surely one time soon.
Re: vs. Desktop Linux and OSX
One way to tell is to track it here http://tinyurl.com/c2k2yv9 when November's figures are out. For October, the share for Win8 ("Windows NT 6.2") was 0.32%, Linux was 1.48% and OS X was 8.42%, so it's got a way to go.
A lot of the comments above strike me as the IT equivalent of King Canute - we don't like it so you can't have it. Well, if (and that is not yet certain) it makes economic sense for the business, then it's likely to happen, whether or not IT want it. There will be plenty of external consultancy firms telling the directors that they can do it, even if your "backwards IT guys" can't.
IT should be about finding how we can successfully, securely and efficiently embrace new ideas and technologies, not protect they way we do things now.
The tide comes in on it's own schedule, not ours.
Quite. Another lazy "pink it, shrink it" insult to half the planet. :-(
Biggest timewaste ever?
I thought that was posting here? Oh, hang on...
I find it most useful for collecting and sending email from the train, which it can do in the few seconds the train in passing through a wifi connected station, rather than for browsing, which as you say, you don't really have time for.
Re: HP = twats
HP to SEC. " We screwed up, and lost a bundle of cash from the US economy. However, we have these convenient British scapegoats - can you get the money back for us please? You can always extradite the former management and owners if that helps.
Re: Some of HP's accusations.
Alternatively, isn't it possible that HP, having realized they paid *way* over the odds for Autonomy (as was widely commented at the time) are now looking for a convenient scapegoat? A foreign scapegoat at that.
Either way, HP management don't come out of this well.
Re: BYOD Policy
Easiest way to get a P45 too.
Like it or not, BYOD is not going away, and IT departments need to realize that. I remember the same attitudes to PC's from mainframe-loving IT departments in the 80's & 90's - we should be embracing new technologies, and new ways of using technology, not just saying "no".
Hang on - the article clearly says "replicas" plural, so perhaps they made enough so every tenth one was destroyed? Which of course would be more accurately "decimation" than destroying a tenth of a single...
OK, I'll get my coat.
Re: Four words
Halo Jones was and is indeed brilliant.
Can I add Warren Ellis - Transmetropolitan? Or indeed Ministry of Space, for the Dan Dare retro feel?
Like all art, there ARE good ones out there if you look hard enough.
Re: Win 8 / Metro GUI - is it a joke?
Ah, sort of like the plot of "The Producers"? If so, Ballmer's lucky - I can't see Win8 being anywhere near as liked as "Springtime for Hitler: A Gay Romp with Adolf and Eva at Berchtesgaden".
Trollfest 1: Real news 0
Welcome to El Reg.
If my kids are anything to go by...
...it's probably the pubic hair rather than the nudity they objected to. Seems to disgust anyone under 40 - weird!
Epic train-crashes normally tend to be explosive!
" the review is clearly intended to be provocative to help page clicks..."
Well it worked then, the Fandroids are out in force, which means the other lot will be along in a minute.
Neither side waiting to read the article of course.
Re: Do you expect me to talk?
Oblig. XKCD link - http://xkcd.com/123/
"So, he's stating he's confused by a device he's never laid hands on."
You'd never find anyone on el reg commenting on a product they'd never used, now would you?
A bit sad to drag him out TBH
...to try and shift this snake oil.
Gates changed the IT industry. The only way Balmer is doing that is by driving MS nearer to bankruptcy.
"Hybrid PC/Tablets" are fine, but I think the problem is that Win 8 needs to be hybrid too. At the moment it seems like a phone/tablet OS with a few grudging afterthoughts to keyboard/mouse use.
Next thing you'll be saying my monitor is not the computer!
No, the tape drives are (he said, showing his age).
NUMBER of people!
Didn't they teach you anything at troll school??
I'd love it to be true, but....
There are far too many people in corporate IT departments who know nothing but Windows, and what MS tell them. Nobody ever got fired for buying IBM^w Microsoft.
Re: no sympathy here
In principle I agree, but it's ironic that my paid for email service (take a bow, Gradwell!) managed a similar if not longer outage last month, so "not free" if not necessarily any better.
Well, they're half way there...
Re: The new Office doesn't ship?
Touch screen devices are all about data consumption, not data creation, so why would you want to start a new document?
You didn't believe all that hype from MS anout Win8 being useful (useable?) in the enterprise now did you??
Thus by your own admition you are afraid of change.
You are Joseph Heller and I claim my £5
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