2634 posts • joined 16 Nov 2009
Hard to say at the moment whether it's different or not.
If you can create a fully-featured Metro browser using MS's WinRT tools (and I don't know whether or not you can yet), it's different because nobody says you HAVE to browse from the Classic Desktop (which is limited to Office 15 anyway, noting else runs on the desktop that might trigger a link).
If browsers you create using WinRT lack functionality or are limited in some way, or (for example) use IE for rendering, it's the same.
I personally hope that WinRT supports the creation of a full-featured Metro Firefox (and Chrome, etc) in which case, the old-style Classic Desktop on a Win8 ARM tablet is irrelevant - the metro version would be enough.
Re: If you could force an honest answer from a tech company what would it be?
I'd ask Microsoft this -
"The Zune. A few questions.
1. Why brown? What the fuck were you thinking?
2. Sound quality alone should have sold this device but throw in the Zune Pass and the HD hardware and it should have been a world-beater. So you chose to only sell it in America, to Americans, who are stupid and think Steve Jobs invented the mp3 player. What the fuck were you thinking?
3. Did you ass-rape Bob Vistakin? I can think of no more plausible explanation for his levels of butthurt, so come on. Own up.
time to stop reading the comments on the Reg. What a bunch of vindictive little bitches you are.
Re: OH YEAH!
Can we remove the shit from Gavin Clark? Because what MS are saying is "people rip DVDs and then play the rips".
I can't speak for anyone else but that describes my PC-based DVD experience perfectly.
Re: Hit the fan
Thanks for speaking for the entire Internet. Without your comment, the Internet would have nobody to tell Microsoft what every single last user in the entire world thinks. Lucky you were here to go around and ask them all!
All those web search tables showing Bing at approx. 20% of global searches are just done for fun because it's such a laughing stock, aren't they? And nobody at all will buy Windows 8 so they might as well not bother!
And Gavin Clarke always knows better than multi-billion dollar companies which is why he's, er... a journalistic nobody? Wait, that can't be right.....
Keep on spinning this as "Macs are perfect, Kaspersky just want to sell product" please, commentards.
That will make all the sick Macs even funnier.
Nevermind the screenrez
Frankly, you don't need much more than 1024x768 to be productive whatever the usual howling chorus of screenres smacktards inevitably yell (on EVERY. SINGLE. LAPTOP. ARTICLE).
But those specifications really don't match up. Ignoring the screen, which is fine, the rest is third-rate.
Re: ingame XP purchasing?
Re: telling ?
Optimism is a fine thing but having seen an A level maths paper last week, I'm going with "piss-easy questions".
When did they abolish proportional grading?
I remember back when I did my A levels - 1988, if you wondered - you needed to be in the top 5% to get an "A". An "A*" did not exist for this reason - if you got an "A" you were really fucking good.
When did that go away?
I seem to recall being told that even to score an "E", I'd need a minimum of 55%. What happened to the world?
Headshots are bad, mmkay? Two in the torso, one in the head.
Re: Mobile platform lacks apps?
Windows Phone = "Not a tablet". They're talking about Windows 8 apps. Not that you read the article anyway.
Re: What's not ben mentioned
Microsoft are being VERY quiet on that
After Sophos proved it was impossible, I expect they felt little need to comment.
Nice try, Barry.
Re: At Least It Is Not Communism
Please give generously.
Re: While we're all being nostalgic...
Memory stirs - wasn't that a big hit in France?
Re: What no MSX?
I had the Toshiba for a while but Dad would stomp in and demand the news at 5:40, so there wasn't much programming time. And the TV was not allowed before 4pm. Tough times.
I forgot to mention.....
In case you're planning to reference the Nano or the Shuffle, the prosecution presents Exhibit #A, the Sansa Clip. In terms of audio quality, usability, capacity and convenience, it makes the Apple products look like a stereogram in a sideboard.
iPods are still the best MP3 / media players
They're really not. Cowon, Sony and even the unlamented Zune blew every iPod away in terms of audio quality. Zune HD beat it for ease of use. Everything - hell, even punchcards would be better than iTunes, probably the most ghastly piece of consumer software since AOL were sending free coasters to everyone.
I can't comment on the rest of your examples because I have not owned the Apple versions and thus cannot compare but holding up the iPod as some kind of gold standard is outrageously, monstrously wrong. By any decent comparative measure, it's much the same quality as an Asda branded generic mp3 player, except that those have better headphones.
Re: Apple? What's the relation to Apple?
Run a 3 week search on the NYT for "Google" or "Microsoft" or even "Sony". Or especially "Nokia".
If a story can be spun to reflect negatively on anyone competing directly with Apple in any field, it will be so spun. By the same token, Jobs, Cook and Ive are presented as the Holy Trinity.
It's just the way things are. Murdoch lies to Leveson, the Daily Mail hates women, the New York Times is a branch of the Apple marketing department.
1. NYT publishes article hating on Apple-competitor
2. Anonymous source.
3. Zero documentation
Re: Skyping non-phones?
No, it doesn't require WiFi.
Re: Skyping non-phones?
It's the "People" model, therefore you Skype a person, not a device. Anything they're logged into Skype on receives the call.
I think the Skype apps for Android and iOS work exactly the same way.
Re: "Hi, I'm going to skype you..."
free texts work for that. In fact, they're useful for Skyping my girlfriend's iPhone too since Skype eats a LOT of data if just left running. Text her with "switch Skype on", call. Easy.
Re: Windows Phone is a disaster
Tango does it just fine, including receiving calls when as a background app or when the phone is locked. Why Skype think this is beyond them is a mystery.
And no, I won't agree that it's a joke. Mine is fine. It fails to annoy me, it doesn't crash and it does everything that I want from my phone. Are there fewer fart apps? Yes. Is this a bad thing? If you're an "IT^ specialist" who likes fart apps, probably. Not for me, though.
Re: Why so irrelevant Microsoft?
I agree about the absurdity of the patent application. However, I don't think I've seen the monolith phone done with a rear screen before which suggests that it is an innovation, however minor.
Patentable? No. Not really. However, if used only as a self-defence patent - face it, some companies want to patent rectangles - then just about tolerable.
Re: Oh now WTF?!
I looked for a Sideshow screen to add to an HTPC since now having to switch the telly on to play music would have been useful. There were none to be found. I guess it way more about OEM apathy than unworkability.
However, on a laptop it was not a sensible idea - adding a scratchable surface to a laptop isn't practical.
Re: Why so irrelevant Microsoft?
Can you point me to a flip phone where the rear is one large e-ink screen configurable to display time, date or skinning info? I ask since that would be interesting and I have never seen one.
Apparently, you have seen many, so perhaps you could offer a link?
the other hacking case
Still more interested in the other email hack they admitted to, that of some guy the Sun suspected of paedophile. He apparently wasn't since no action was taken and no story was run, which means they just hacked some guy for no reason at all.
That's quite a big deal and I don't see how "public interest" could possibly apply.
Re: Boot from USB?
so.. you think it's a bad feature and shouldn't be included?
or were you just being snide?
Re: The almost always on solution
You can't use any cloud solution for something you need 100% uptime on. In fact, you can't use any IT solution if you want 100% uptime. I recommend you buy yourself a packet of pencils, Bob.
or that it's on a dock/stand with a keyboard so he can type fast and his audience doesn't have to wait for touchscreen typing.
I love seeing unreleased products get hate from nerds who literally cannot have any idea how well or poorly they function. It's like reading 19th century literature on lesser races and makes me feel better about myself. Far cheaper than joining a consumer products-based cult.
Re: They got to start /somewhere/
Kony did nothing since 2005 when he moved out of Uganda entirely but hey, if you fell for that line of bullshit, why wouldn't you buy Assay's too?
Re: You left out the best quote
Nothing broken about XBox 360 - it hasn't lost your user credentials, shut down its network for months at a time and doesn't come from a company that likes to rootkit you.
Some dogs, surely. KIN was a disaster. VB is still horrible. Sharepoint is essentially pointless. I hate all the extra shit that Office tries to install, although the base package of six applications is fine.
These days, though, in many respects MS seem like the best of a bad lot. Oracle? Java and the hatefulness of Oracle in general. Google? Forget it, those bastards already steal copyright wholesale while trying to sell your private life. Damned if I'll give them my data to sell. Apple? Lawyer-happy stealers of FOSS and revoltingly smug purveyors of overpriced, under-specced bling-toys for hipsters, no, I don't think so.
Even linux distros tend to be infected by Google these days, although you can prise my Debian servers from my cold, dead appendage of choice.
No, not a fanboy. Microsoft were always pretty evil and I don't doubt that they still are. However, it's a familiar evil, one that we3've all found our own workarounds for. The new evils smile wider and bite harder.
Re: You left out the best quote
Barry, I've got an HD7. I don't think it's shit.
You think WP7 is shit but you think every Microsoft have any hand in is shit, so your opinion is somewhat... tainted.
Your opinion isn't fact, neither is mine. Stating "it's shit" just makes you look stupid and bigoted. Stop it, please.
The Preview has Music and Video apps. Presumably these replace WMP in terms of media players under Metro.
Re: Ability to turn Start Screen OFF?
Usually pre-releases run slower than release code since they contai9n large amounts of debug code.
Whether or not this is the case in the Win8 CP, I can't say for sure but it seems likely.
Please. Let's not indulge in this kind of foolishness. Your suggestion makes as much sense as "President Dukakis".
Re: Utter bollocks.
> It is unlikely that current WP7.x models will have the resources to run WP8
Really? Not according to Microsoft reps (can't find link right now) in France and not, interestingly, according to MSNerd who has been right about everything else regarding WP7.
He does make it clear that not every feature will come to every phone. For example, no NFC chip in your phone, no pay-by-bonk. No front facing camera, no video calls.
But otherwise, the update will be there.
You've tried to spread this line of FUD before,m I recall. It made no sense then and less now. Essentially, your argument appears to be that because WP8 supports dual (or more) cores, it can't support a single core.
That's not how software development works, friend. Not unless you're a shitty developer. If it were, you couldn't put ICS on a HTC HD2, which you most definitely can.
Stop spreading this one, please. It makes no sense.
MS have confirmed that WP7 apps will work on WP8. All WP7 apps are Silverlight.
Therefore either a) WP8 supports Silverlight or b) it runs a Silverlight emulator.
Personally, on a phone, I find the latter theory unlikely.
I use it.
I also happen to be an ex-Signals RF engineer and old RF hand from Motorola (many of us went that way in the civvie street) with a whole shitload of diagnostics kit in the cupboard under the stairs, which I used on first installation (about two years back) to try to determine if the FUD that neckbeards with HAM licenses continually spew about powerline kit was true.
To the absolute best of my diagnostic abilities (and those are still pretty good), the Devolo 200Mb/s kit I have installed does not overspill into any nearby waveband. It's not affecting SW, MW or UHF, ADSL is clear, regular HAM frequencies seem (it's never easy to tell due to environmental factors) to be identical with and without the kit in operation. And by "in operation" I don't just mean "switched on", I mean "plugged in at all". I get more (a lot more, actually) readings from the microwave than I do from the powerline kit.
I have yet to test any other manufacturer's kit but am happy to do so if it's supplied (I will of course return it). In the meantime, if the doomsayers could just shut up and point out any kit they think is flaky, I might be able to get test hardware and find out.
Re: How did it win? Simple economics
It was easy to get chips without Windows back then. However, there was no activation or copy protection on Windows (or Office!) install floppies. This made Windows incredibly easy to pirate. I mean seriously, Jet Set Willy (with that horrible colour map thing) was harder to take a working copy from.
This in turn meant it was effectively free to home users This meant that home users knew MS Office where they didn't know WP or Lotus 1-2-3. An available skilled workforce meant Windows+Office had an immediate financial advantage for any company thinking of installing productivity software.
And thus, Microsoft won. They won due to ease of piracy.
Why they keep trying to stamp it out is beyond me. If MS want Win8 to rule the world, all they need to do is remove Activation and plant a few good torrents.
wtb "u mad bro" icon
Re: Outlook? Really?
but it too is woefully slower than the ipad2s in the grunt GPU power department.
Only according to slides show by, er, Apple. Anand la Shimpi disagrees and I tend to have more faith in his in-depth testing than in Tim Cook's powerpoint slides.
Re: Still has not got the memo
Add a keyboard dock and WoA version of VS11 and you've covered 85%.
Re: Can I be the first
It what alternate universe is making fun of some idiotic individual's name somehow misconstrued as racist in any way?
It's an Indian name. He was born with it. In fact, it's a perfectly ordinary Indian name but you're laughing at it because you're not Indian. hahahahaha, look at the funny brown people.
Enjoy Animal House. I do. Just try not to live it.
Re: Can I be the first
Can I be the first to complain that calling the guy "M Knight Shyamaladingdong" - as so many commentards did - is not funny, it's just fucking racist.
I don't actually blame Lester for quoting them because it shows how neanderthal they are, but even in the article it makes me wince.
Last week, I got asked
"What's the weight of a bale of hay?"
Of course, afterwards I figured it was one of those super-groovy Google questions like "how many golf-balls can you fit in a school bus" and it was meant to be a thought exercise. But sadly, the farmer's son in me kicked in and I gave them this -
"Small bales, big square bales or round bales? It all basically depends on how tight the knotters are set because this controls how much hay is backed into the set volume of the bale. In theory, you could max out small bales at around 9 stone (about fifty kilos) but the string would snap on lifting so realistically they tend to go at about half to three quarters of that. And then you have to allow to for how damp the hay is because after cutting and turning, it will always be a bit damp even if that's just from dew. I could look up the weight of round bales or big square bales but in practice you're going to be using a loader with those anyway so it ain't much of an issue.... er. You've gone very quiet?"
The problem is, nobody knows how many golf balls fit in a school bus because nobody needs to know. But when you have 3000 small bales to stack by hand, the weight is pretty important.
Re: Forget the hardware
their phones are about as sexy as Anne Widdecombe in a thong.
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