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Re: Question for the Windows Phone executive
The app-yoinking is kind of strange. All of these apps do apparently run (according to WPCentral) but Nokia have pulled them anyway. In the case of Skype, it won't be missed because it sucks to all hell on WP anyway at the moment.
The apps are also still available for the Dell Venue Pro which has similar processor/memory constraints which is telling.
So wait and see, I suppose.
More evil than Google?
More evil than Apple?
More evil than Oracle?
Highly unlikely, in all cases.
If you want evil-free, you're shit out of luck. So pick your evil-of-choice and shut the fuck up.
"Silly play bricks"
I'm counting up the number of people who consider themselves too stupid to use a launcher but I can't tell from your comment whether you think you're stupid or whether you're just following the herd.
Please clear this up for me so that I can get an accurate count.
Worst. Reporter. Ever.
Here's what Paul Thurrot has on this -
[quote]This week, Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer was widely reported (including right here in WinInfo) as having said that he expected to see as many as 500 million Windows 8 users by the end of 2013—a fairly impressive feat given that the product will have been on the market about 15 months by that time. Microsoft PR contacted me to explain that he never actually said that, but wasn’t able to provide a video or transcript of his speech, nor tell me exactly what he had said. But the basic gist of it—since, again, no one seems to be able to provide this very basic information—is that Ballmer was simply reiterating a statement the company had made previously in its Windows Store blog, that there would be more than 500 million Windows 7-based PCs ready to upgrade to Windows 8 by the time Windows 8 ships. And the credible Todd Bishop says that Ballmer actually said the following in his speech: "With something like 400 million to 500 million users expected in the next year, the best economic activity for people building machines, and the best economic opportunity for people writing applications, will be around Windows." Point being, Ballmer was talking about Windows generally, not Windows 8 specifically.[/quote]
Yes, I know BBCode doesn't work but it's a nice delineator.
Gavin, do you get this crap from Google or what?
Re: dogged is not available at the moment, leave a msg after the beep....
Who did you find?
Re: outmicrosoft Microsoft
> Not being evil is good enough for me.
Call me when you find a company that meets this requirement. Google certainly don't.
Re: @Stoneshop: Microsoft *must* be on dangerous ground messing
That's true. I used to work for Motorola years ago as an RF engineer, designing logic and faultfinding on GSM base stations.
They have a LOT of IP in the field of what you'd call BIOS on a computer and plenty regarding packet-switched network design and implementation, fault diagnostics and network maintenance.
On the software that makes a phone work?
Not so much anymore. They don't even use their own OS these days, or make their own chips. So yeah, Moto have a lot of IP. Almost none of it is relevant against a software company.
Because German patent law is brutal and German courts are regarded as sympathetic. It's like suing in Delaware or East Texas.
You could offer yourself to Motorola as an expert witness in rendering this patent invalid but if nobody mentions your prior art in court, it's as if it never existed.
So basically, if this offends you so much, telling us is just pissing the wind. Contact Motorola.
Re: Microsoft *must* be on dangerous ground messing with the big boys when it comes to mobile
Microsoft are a software company, Motorola aren't (and even back to the V. days were renowned for shitty OS implementations, far worse than anything MS have ever inflicted on the world). Even now, Microsoft don't make phones. That means all those hardware patents Motorola stacked up over the years are essentially useless against them.
Re: MS vs. non-MS
Yeah, google are lovely fluffy bunnies who love everyone, especially YOU. Riiiiiiight...
Motorola have certainly sued over patents though. And this case was brought against Motorola, not Google.
Re: Still down
Back up as of now.
On sodding pay day, too
I'd really like to know when it's safe to go across to the ATM.
"An innovative and forward-thinking Catholic organization" - sorry, oxymoron there.
Re: What is the difference between a smartphone and a featurephone?
Since IE and Messenger are both baked in, that doesn't happen.
If your video stops playing while you take a phone call, I'd call that a feature.
Re: What is the difference between a smartphone and a featurephone?
It can. YOU can't code it, though.
If you can check email while playing music, multitasking is happening. WP can do that because the music player has native access.
It can multitask. It just doesn't let any old idiot with a copy of Visual C# Express fool around with its nethers. If you feel that makes it less than "smart", that's your decision.
Android phones are going to be pointing at Google
In China? Very, very unlikely.
You've said it's untrue without any reference at all, no evidence, no supporting links, no indication of exactly what is meant to be untrue, nothing.
That makes you a dick.
Re: Ian 62
Ian - I don't think it's possible. Tagging is a link to a facebook profile. If you don't have one, it can't be linked.
The AC above is either a troll or just stupid.
Rural? Orange SIM? Indoors?
No, that doesn't work.
Re: The Cabal?
This isn't USENET.
I think you mean "Acer". Asus make great kit. The only people who hate it are Apple fanbois.
Re: Suspects Fingerprints.
Only weak-minded fools who break the law...have something to fear in this.
or anyone stupid enough to, for example, attend a democratic peaceful protest.
And frankly those people are all criminals anyway, right? Right?
Like the filthy terrorists who use cameras in London!
Is that what you mean?
Re: Oh hey, not a problem
You think the average copper could tell an illegal jammer from a jar of Marmite?
I suggest you may be mistaken.
Oh hey, not a problem
"What was that, Mister Plod? Your internet is broken?"
Never would have guessed you flog Google apps.
Agreed. I've resurrected my Razr V3xx for weekend use (don't need smartguff outside work) because it has a three day battery life and still does pretty much everything I want.
The thing about good old-fashioned phones is that they're brilliant phones. Smartphones tend to be mediocre at many things.
"Extremely long copyright terms"
I'm a little concerned by this "extremely long" descriptor being bandied about.
Suppose you wrote a book. Suppose it was never really huge being a bit visionary but years later, somebody noticed how awesome it was and it got huge. HP Lovecraft is a good example here. However, suppose that unlike Lovecraft, you survived.
If copyright terms were as short as I've seen mooted here, you would quite literally never earn a penny on your creative genius. You would die in poverty (like Lovecraft) while everyone else had a great time reading your book on their Kindle.
Something about this strikes me as really, really not fair.
Is that wrong of me? Does that make me a copyright fascist? It must be horrible to be the one making that kind of call.
Re: Lots of love
My mum does that. Always freaks me out.
Re: Win 7
Your response indicates you think developers are too stupid to use a launcher.
Actually, most responses in this thread seem to be "I am too stupid to use a launcher".
And requiring business software means using the launcher to launch the business software. It's not rocket science, unless you're absolutely retarded.
I can't believe how many people commenting on the Reg forums consider themselves to be stupid and incompetent.
Your comment indicates that you believe that the Metro interface is more than a glorified app launcher.
It isn't. Use it as a launcher and it's fine. No real interference at all.
Re: General consensus
"we all seem to agree"?
No, not so much. "we" all pretty much hate everything MS on principle and "we've" become a little self-reinforcing club, like Apple cultists or conspiracy weirdos all telling each other how "right" "we" are.
That's cool though. It could be hilarious if "we're" wrong.
Er, no, that was Abraham Lincoln.
Phineas T Barnum said "There's a sucker born every minute".
Re: Not a snowball chance in Hell
the Android smartphone is the new PC.
Is there a House Rule against posting while high?
Re: it's gonna tank
surely, by your logic then, Win7 is a horrible failure since your company is still running XP.
it's not. Engadget have the press release. It's way, way more boring.
Re: Unfortunate name....
All future Reg references to this guy should be as "Oppenheimer (no relation)". Right, Drew?
Irritating telco ceases to sponsor irritating chick-lit prize.
No film at 11 - cameraman went to sleep from the excitement.
Re: Most possible solutions to these problems will be outstripped...
If you're volunteering, I can kill you pretty painlessly.
Re: Welcome to the Lewis and Andrew Show
oh go on, hold your breath.
Re: Just make sure
Disqualified by the hugely underwhelming Samsung Focus.
Re: Epic Fail
Before they are discovered, they can wreak absolute havoc on your life, career and finances.
Re: Obscurity? What obscurity?
@Maliciously Crafted Packet
I hope you're not joking. Otherwise I suggest you go read Bruce Schneier or on security via obscurity and find out what the term means.
Re: No need?
Most infections don't happen at the point of install. Suppose we take Flashback as an example - you install something which is permitted by Apple. It is not malware but it has a vulnerability. You then get infected via a drive-by website.
Apple can't test every website. There's a reason why AV is still installed on locked-down business machines where users can't install any software at all.
I'm not seeing any anti-Apple trolling. Merely the acknowledgement that any popular platform will be a target for malware. OSX is not popular (by market share) and thus, not much of a target. iOS on the other hand, is an IMMENSE target. It's only as matter of time.
Always terrifying how many of them there are.
Re: Some surprising omissions
Try North Wiltshire. 1bar of 2G outside from O2, nothing whatsoever inside or outside from anyone else.
Re: What is it with WP7?
Either you like it or you don't like it.
I see people insulting for their choice of a phone or what they find pleasing to the eye....
I suppose all the racists have to do something now that their favourite hobby is illegal.
Re: Lots of friends have Nokias ..
By the way, whoever it is that goes through downvoting perfectly factual posts with links and sources?
Fuck you, loser.
I'm reasonably convinced the longer term future is going to be Android.
I hope you're wrong, but not in the obvious way. I'd like to see all the major systems do well. That way lies competition on price and functionality and maybe even interoperability in the longer term.
I rather hope that Android and WP do better than iOS and RIM though - being stuck in an ecosystem is a bad thing but being tied to a single manufacturer as well is asking for trouble.
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