"They are not usable on the lap" - endless youtube videos of people using a surface on their lap say you are wrong.

Not that this will stop you from continuing to make this claim.

Re: Microsoft are in the mobile phone business? Bing copied Googles Search results

NET is dead, show me where MS are advocating it for Windows 8 Phone

All of these samples a new dev is supposed to work from? Every last fucking one?

http://code.msdn.microsoft.com/wpapps/

You are an expert in exactly dick. No self-respecting linux guru or OSS advocate would use the heavily-encumbered Mint. I';ve never seen a single technical post from you. Not so much as a handy tip or a how-to. Nothing.

All you do is troll, you pointless waste of oxygen. If my son grows up like you, I'll fucking drown him.

Re: Microsoft are in the mobile phone business?

The sooner Chris gets that ignore feature in here the better, you obnoxious little zit.

It's called cheating and copying, Microsoft's modus operandi. MS confessed to it.

You're wrong and you tell lies to cover your utter ignorance. Cheating and copying is what Google are up before the EU on, remember?

Just leave.

Re: Microsoft are in the mobile phone business?

Discredited almost immediately.

For reference, since "Bob Vistakin" loves this one, the Bing Toolbar - not Bing, not IE - sends URLs to Bing for analysis. Bing can then reproduce those results. In other words, it works exactly the same way as the, er, Google toolbar.

Re: Making me sure to turn "auto updates" off then

I thought that, and had despaired of protecting my mum from this nonsense - she can't seem to keep using Firefox no matter how many times I install it and Chrome just sends all your traffic to Google so fuck that - but then I was lucky enough to discover Tracking Protection Lists.

http://ie.microsoft.com/testdrive/Browser/p3p/Default.html

Throw EasyList and Fanboy's List on there and it's like you just put AdBlock on IE.

Re: Welcome to the Muppet Show

Upvoted.

I should really just let him spew his bile everywhere and either never read comments or find a different site, I guess. The sad part is once upon a time, I would probably have agreed with him (although not with his rampant obsession). At age 43 with less idealism and more realism, I can admit that I was wrong about MS. They're just a company that makes and sells software and Bill Gates is not the devil; he's a man doing his best for people. The older I get and the more I learn, the more I think that even Steve Ballmer is just a guy who loves Microsoft (I don't think this can be argued, actually) and just wants it to make the best stuff.

Oddly, I prefer that to a company that collects and sells data about people so although I can't see that I'll ever replace linux/debian as OS/distro of choice, the whole new "ANDROID IS THE WAY AND THE TRUTH" thing disturbs me. For a start, it's the least "open" linux distro ever created.

Second, its job is to be spyware. I'll take MS over that any day of the week. At least they don't pretend their code is open source.

Re: Still Hope for Nokia

You ass, you made me spit coffee.

Re: ELOP FAIL

:@Eadon - you clearly never used a Zune. Or saw one. Or, especially listened to one.

The interface worked, as a music player. The sound quality was good, genuinely good. As opposed to the iPod which sounds like somebody pissed in the audio jack. Not as good as a Cowon unit but still, really very good.

Desktop linux is held up by

1) Nobody cares about it. Thus is meets your own standards for "should be burned with fire and all those responsible for it and/or who use it should be immediately shot" as seen with Windows Phone. Your logic is that an OS the general public isn't buying is crap, right?

2) Lack of productivity software. This has got better over the years but by that time, nobody cared.

3) Horrible, horrible documentation. The documentation for linux is a paper bag full of vomit coughed up by the Aspberger's Syndrome brigade. It's about as user-friendly as shotgun to the balls. Show a finance director the documentation for desktop linux (and then explain how none of his software will work, none of the people who get paid to do things will be able to do things without buying a metric fuckload of training and the printer will cry in the corner) and see how quickly any office where people actually do work adopts it. Shortly after Satan snowshoes to the office, is the truth of the matter.

As for washing my mouth out with soap? Come to South Wales and try it, you gaping pustulent clunge.

Re: 'Nokia has started to deliver very attractive products again'

Does it?

How many Androids were sold in the first two years of the OS's life?

Re: ELOP FAIL

Oh, what the hell, let's do this.

The Win Pho 7 and Win Pho 8 are to the iPhone and Android what the Zune was to the iPod.

Excellent devices crippled by an utter lack of marketing and interest from the manufacturer? Hmm. If you say so.

(Incidentally, post a valid criticism of the Zune beyond market share, if you can. And remember that market share applies to linux and desktop Windows as well, you hypocrite).

That these phone operating systems would fail was beyond all reasonable doubt. [citation needed]

So when taking a deep risk, it's best to have a Plan B, but Nokia has no Plan B. At least not officially. There is no hope for a recovery of MS in the mobile market as that market is maturing now [citation needed] and the existing players are controlling it,[citation needed] Apple at the prestige end (more or less) - (unlikely since iPhones are everywhere so hardly "presige") - and Android has the rest wrapped up - in the USA, everywhere else is wide open - with Blackberry providing the 3rd place alternative - because any more than one alternative would be a CRIME AGAINST GOD right?

Nokia's entire strategy has failed. - making a profit is a huge failure, everyone knows that(?) - It was known to have failed with the Win Pho 7[citation needed] but they repeated the same recipe for disaster with Win Pho 8 - with even more dire consequences[citation needed] I predicted all this on the Reg two years ago you predict it roughly every eighteen minutes, you boring twat - and a few times [correction - a thousand times. However, repeating a lie doesn't make it true. Goebbels was wrong- in the intervening months :-) Truly, my friends, It is not even a hyperbolic exaggeration to point out:

[usual all caps bag of excrement deleted]

I wish you'd fuck off.

Re: Wet blanket time

It might be a way to make the bastards actually use the money from the "road fund license" for, y'know, roads.

Instead of pissing it away on MP's expenses like they do now.

Re: OK own up

Good thinking. My two small, square boxes look pretty sad against the lists we're seeing here.

I have no idea how they made the article, to be honest.

Re: I'm not Eadon...

MS shills

Hate to pop your paranoia but I don't believe there are such creatures on the Reg boards. Even RICHTO is pretty much a reaction to Eadon, Bob Vistakin, Barry Shitpeas and Mrs Barry Shitpeas (I only noticed the other day that "Philomena Cunk" is another Charlie Brooker character, insert facepalm here).

The "shilltards" here seem to be confined to linux and Android.

For the record, I work for a small development company in South Wales at the moment.

Re: The next big thing?

yeah, truly unthinkable

Re: Security issues

Androids are more secure than windows laptops or tablets

[citation needed]

Re: "About to outsource your IT?"

I was hoping you'd misread the I as an F.

Re: Are they all different jobs?

I don't know, but Anna and the reporter who compiled the list seem to have an issue with the technologies involved.

C# and C round out the top three. .NET was the fourth

Mono aside (it's a vanishingly small percentage of the C# platform), you can't do C# without .NET. And yet .NET is fourth. Except that it can't be, because C# is second.

So what we have here is either a) the .NET figure actually refers to VB or .NET is actually second, being C#+VB or the stupid recruiters get their data from equally stupid HR departments and thus the whole table is pretty much meaningless.

Re: MS Surface pro FAIL

There you go with the "shill" thing again, Eadon.

Will you never learn?

Re: Into Africa

OK Wintards, two points - first Gates is a robber baron and got his fortune through back stabbing honest partners and competitors. He did so illegally and the DOJ declared his practices as illegal. So it's not his money, he stole it

Really. Bill Gates is illegally a billionaire.

I rather doubt that.

But you're definitely a cunt.

Re: "Responsive Design"

rear wheel drive?

Re: Into Africa

Eadon, that man's money and how he uses it have saved hundreds of thousands of lives, brought people decent water, vaccinated against diseases and pushed down infant mortality rates.

What have you done, except post bullshit on the Register that makes you look like a cunt?

Re: @Eadon Re "- Microsoft are paying you well for your ill-informed FUD, I trust?"

What amuses me is nine downvotes (and counting) for suggesting a possibility.

Not an opinion, a possibility.

Either a) people can't read and simply assume

or b) at least nine people have an entirely different reason to downvote anything which even suggests that Android may be less than perfect.

I can't think of reason. Eadon almost certainly could.