* Posts by dogged

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Developers, developers, developers! But WILL they support Windows 10?

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Re: we're already developing for Windows 10

@Tom 35 -

Hardly. But it's not appreciably worse than any other, just different. There is no learning curve, merely a familiarity curve. I find that some people get over the changes very quickly and some throw a tantrum and refuse to ever use anything different from what they said looked like an unusable Fisher Price toy 13 years ago...

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Re: we're already developing for Windows 10

Some other systems created here - for some other industries - require use of linux embedded, so they code for linux embedded.

And MS lobbying educational institutions? Well... there Office Home & Student I suppose but that doesn't make many programmers. If anyone's lobbying these days, it seems to be mainly Apple.

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Re: we're already developing for Windows 10

Oh that's easy. Three VERY VERY LARGE pharmaceutical companies are already planning to switch over to it. Supporting Win10 was one of their requirements when this project hit the control-software stage.

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Re: we're already developing for Windows 10

> Surely you're bullshitting us. So you're already committing to a platform that isn't released, stabilised, proven or even gained a mentionable user base?

We are committing to support that platform, yes. Our clients are in favour.

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Re: we're already developing for Windows 10

> It hasn't - it's caused nothing but grief for most of us.

I'm going to assume you're a superbeing that doesn't need antibiotics, analgesics or vaccines.

Or a dickhead. An anonymous dickead, too scared to back up his sneering with a username.

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Re: we're already developing for Windows 10

No, they are on an internal network.

You should probably be aware that this is an upgrade to an existing system. It's actually the sixth upgrade since the original version 1.0 product which ran on Win2K workstations and Windows 98 Embedded.

You almost certainly depend on the products it has monitored and produced.

You might want to kill yourself right now, in fact, just so that you don't have to live with the fact that Windows has been saving your life and easing your pain since 2001. Or maybe you should just grow the fuck up.

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we're already developing for Windows 10

Now, we're only a tiny precision engineering company but we're writing for Win10 and IoT for our next product which is all about fine granular control of production lines in the big pharmaceutical factories. As you can imagine, the instrumentation needs to be very, very precise and the data feedback constant in order to get past the FDA.

Admittedly, the front-end of our system is currently WPF but the plan is to go Universal with the launch version and the architecture is in place to support this (loose coupling, disconnected front end, disconnected data store, async model used throughout...)

It should run across workstations, tablets, embedded systems and headless IoT instruments.

So.... some of us are already on board.

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FIVE Things (NOT 10: these are REAL) from the WINDOWS 10 event

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@SRS

> tell me you're joking. If you really do text and drive, god help anyone near you.

No, Cortana reads the text, asks if I want to ignore it or answer it, if I choose to answer it I do so by voice.

All handsfree, all via voice.

Are the 32 downvotes for that post strictly a result of poor reading comprehension?

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Re: Nobody talks to Cortana

32 thumbs down for stating that having a text read to you in the car and replying by voice is both common and useful?

Wow.

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Re: Nobody talks to Cortana

> Driving in the car and wanting to find a restaurant on the spur of the moment doesn't seem to be a common occurrence for most people.

But driving in the car and replying to an urgent text is a very common situation.

Nice try though.

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Re: Pricing

I did not downvote. However, Terry Myerson stated at the event that once you've installed Win10 it will be updated free of charge for the lifetime of the device (just as it is now with Windows Update) so therefore, this is an irrelevant question instigated by lousy reporting.

I note that my response containing the facts from the event has also been downvoted, presumably by people who want you to think it's a subscription you keep paying for. Who those people work for, I leave to your imagination.

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Re: Pricing

Nobody knows how much it will cost to upgrade to Win10 after a year from release.

Everyone knows exactly how much it will cost to continue to use your Win10 box after a year - nothing. there is no subscription.

That's just FUD.

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Nobody talks to Cortana

I use Cortana a lot on my phone but I only talk to Cortana in the car. The rest of the time, I type my questions/instructions. Obviously, I don't want to do that while driving but I find it's by far the best option.

Cortana's added-value searches are pretty good and I get to control them precisely with my text rather than have a back-end on Azure try to guess what I wanted or get it wrong if I happen to sneeze or be eating a mint or whatever.

I can see typing to Cortana becoming useful on the desktop, especially given the extra bells and whistles they're giving it. That thing about searching for a restaurant on Maps and getting not only the location but also (optionally) opening times, contact details, reviews and menus? Handy.

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Uber isn't limited by the taxi market: It's limited by the Electronic Thumb market

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Re: In my defence

> "arguably"

In the same way that the earth is arguably flat?

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SURPRISE! Microsoft pops open Windows 10 Preview build early

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Re: The internet

> I'm pretty sure MS accounts behave the same as domain accounts when disconnected.

They do. I tested it.

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Is it humanly possible to watch Gigli and Battlefield Earth back-to-back?

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Re: Adam Sandler

I have a soft spot for "You Don't Mess With The Zohan" but only because I've spent time in Israel and it is savagely accurate in many respects.

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Re: Computer Games Movies

In The Name Of The King, an Uwe Boll take on Dungeon Siege starring Jason Statham, Ray Liotta and Burt Motherfucking Reynolds as the King in question.

I saw the cast and the title on EPG but had no idea it was a game-movie or that darling Uwe was involved.

Jesus H Corbett, that was bad.

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Re: "So bad it's good"

however - and in keeping more with your post title, in the "So Bad It's Good" category, I give you Knowing, a Nicholas Cage movie so "knowingly" - I see what they did there - terrible that it's hilarious.

By the time we get to the alien Nazi Angels, I am crying with helpless laughter every time I watch it.

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Re: "So bad it's good"

Daredevil.

I mentioned the Mr Bean movie above (it's the only movie I've ever walked out of at the cinema) but Daredevil is quite possibly the worst film I've ever seen. And I've seen it twice because some ABSOLUTE BASTARD convinced me that the director's cut was an improvement. I am no longer friends with that person.

The reverse chronology, the fuckawful Affleck voiceover, the terrible, terrible direction and editing, the awful soundtrack... everything about that film is truly awful except for Oliver Platt and the late and much missed Michael Clarke Duncan.

If there was ever a film where you longed for the villain to crush the hero's idiot skull, it's that one.

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Re: I reckon that I have something...

Oh, I can beat that.

Bean: The Ultimate Disaster Movie

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Why so tax-shy, big tech firms? – Bank of England governor

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Re: "the challenge will be for people to develop skills that cannot be displaced by machines"

Labour-saving technology is not to save people from labour, JDX. It's to save companies money on their labour bills.

You can tell this by the way our government reacts to people not having a job - first try to starve them to death and then sell them as slaves to Poundland.

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Telefónica to offload O2 to Three daddy Hutchison for £10.25bn

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If O2 is frequently NO2 then adding Three becomes NO3 or... Nitrate?

and "Okay NO3" becomes KNO3.. Now all we need is C and S from somewhere...

No, this isn't working.

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Li Ka-Shing?

kerching!

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Is Windows RT not invited to the Windows 10 upgrade party?

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Re: ARM vs ATOM

> That's rubbish. Netbooks didn't even really exist when XP was about. The main reason that almost no one bothers selling Linux based PC products is that they cost lots more to provide support for than Windows...

Sorry, that's rubbish. The main reason that Asus stopped selling linux-based netbooks was (according to them) that customers returned them on discovering that they couldn't install Office or play any games.

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Re: ARM vs ATOM

@Dan 55 - that would require supporting a version of (presumably Visual Studio) compiled for ARM.

Which I personally would have viewed as added value but I'm guessing they didn't fancy the extra support overhead OR Sinofsky ran into political obstruction from the head of Server & Tools which was, er, Nadella.

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> WinMo 7

Never existed. The last version of Windows Mobile was 6.5

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> I paid 200 quid for it and got a years world-wide Skype and 200GB of OneDrive, it was worth it. It is a fantastic device, I no longer take a laptop when travelling abroad but don't have to rely totally on my phone, especially for watching movies etc., brilliant.

I personally think this is great news because I've been itching to play with one of these things but could never justify the price. Now hopefully they'll start hitting Ebay at the price they should have retailed for.

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Never mind those touch apps, full Office 2016 is coming this year

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Re: My new Office wishlist

Aero is past it and they Old Yeller'd it for an excellent reason.

If you do love your OS to look like it was last updated in 2005, I understand OSX and iOS look a great deal like Windows Vista these days.

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> From what I have seen, pretty much everything Microsoft announced this week is already being done for years by Sony, Google and Apple,

o rly

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SCREW you, GLASSHOLES! Microsoft unveils HoloLens

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Re: Win10 - Obese from birth

as an API, no CPU time will be eaten if the API is not called.

and disk space? Really? It'll fit on all WP8.1 devices (according to the briefing, all WP8.1 devices will be upgraded and all version of Win10 will contain this API) including the Lumia 520 with its 512MB or RAM and 8GB of hard drive and you're worried about disk space....

OR desperately trying to find fault.

One or the other.

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Re: Anyone remember Courier (no not the font!)

maybe I was channelling badly.

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Re: I've already got app ideas!

I think they can arrest you as a terrorist for that.

Or in fact, anything.

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Re: Anyone remember Courier (no not the font!)

It's already beyond a promo video. Journalists at the event used it, for themselves.

Also, Courier was never even officially acknowledged by MS. There were leaks and refusals to comment and then rumours and then more leaks and then a leak that Bill Gates canned it personally because it had no email client.

MEANWHILE IN BOB VISTAKIN'S MIND

There isn't even a promo video! All these articles from journos who say they tried it - notice MS took all their phones and recording devices away? Yeah. Then they either drugged them and made them all hallucinate exactly the same thing OR showed them all the spy footage they got on Kinect and blackmailed them to say exactly what Nadella wants them to say. It is all a fake lie to let the NSA read your post-it notes.

Satya Nadella -> SN -> NS -> anyone?

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Re: Wonder how they work with glasses

According to Peter Bright's write-up of the demo on Ars Technica, they are currently deeply uncomfortable with glasses but work without issue. The "ow, me nose" problem is being worked on apparently :)

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Free Windows 10 could mean the END for Microsoft and the PC biz

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Re: COULD BE LETHAL

No, it looks to me like Paul Shirley is desperate to find something wrong with it.

Just like Gavin Clarke.

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COULD BE LETHAL

Blimey Gavin, how long did it take you find a negative spin for "FREE AS IN BEER"?

Not a subscription, just free. A giveaway.

What would you have written if it wasn't free? Same story, different headline?

PRICEY UPGRADE TO WIN10 WILL KILL WINDOWS FOREVER - subheading "Please love me, hate brigade".

What next? Will open sourcing .NET be a cancer?

Get a proper job or go work for the Sport or the Mail - they don't have any readers capable of bullshit detection.

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Your anonymous code contributions probably aren't: boffins

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Bullshit

The result on about 80% of decent .NET code these days would be "clears Green on Resharper" which hardly identifies anyone.

It's all about the tools...

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Microsoft will give away Windows 10 FREE - for ONE year

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Re: Danger Will Robinson?

This is confirmed false and now clearly a case of dodgy reporting.

During the post-event Q&A Terry Myerson said "Upgrading is free if you do it within a year. If you upgrade later than a year after launch there will be a cost associated with doing so.This is not a subscription model. *aside to guy next him* that would be nuts. Nobody would do that".

So, there you go. Business as usual, one year special offer on price (100% reduction), no subscription, some really nasty spin from the journalists present* and the usual paranoid hate and FUD from El Reg's legion of Google employees commentards.

* speaking of which, the video of the event is crazy. Watch what happens when they bring out the hologram stuff. Did you see that? That's right, nothing happens. Show these people a slightly bigger iPhone and they scream and cheer and clap and weep for the genius of Apple. Show them some Tony Stark-level working technology and they go "meh".

I think we have the wrong journalists.

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Re: 'Windows as a service'

I'm sure the loss of you as a customer has Satya Nadella heartbroken.

Or not.

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Re: Security is going to be a big feature...

> That just about sums up Microsoft's attitude to security. It's a feature rather than and inherent part of the OS

Really? You think so? Who spends as much on securing their products as MS? Anyone? Anyone at all?

Didn't think so.

And it's not an inherent part of any OS except TAILS and even that's broken in places.

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Re: Danger Will Robinson?

That sounded like marketing given that they were talking about users installing updates. Sounds no different to 7 or 8.1 and Windows Update to me.

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Windows 10, day ZERO ... Will Nadella be the HERO?

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No, it's like saying you built a factory that makes steering wheels for trucks and cars at the same time.

How much overlap between a phone and a desktop PC? Well.. remember Windows 95? Your phone almost certainly exceeds the minimum specs to run it (architecture changes between x86 and ARM notwithstanding). It would probably run Windows 8.1 if you got an ARM build.

So to answer your question - quite a lot.

Have you been under a rock?

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Ah, two shills already downvoting facts.

Have fun, saddoes.

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Re: Today is my birthday.

You're probably going to die from alcohol poisoning.

Upvoted.

Happy birthday.

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You've got that slightly wrong (but to be fair, your source - the article - is nonsense withut any notable content so it's not your fault).

They're not saying "one app, all platforms". It refers to software architecture.

Using the MVVM pattern, the front-end is entirely separate from the logic which is entirely separate from the data storage/online API/whatever. So you only write one version of the actual logic that does everything and then you stick different pretty but stupid front-ends on it for different platforms. A desktop app would therefore probably be a very different beast from a phone app but both benefit from the fact that the front-end is stupid and all the work has already been done once.

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oh look, Bob Vistakin, pirithous, Hans 1....

There's just something about Gavin's endless, clueless "whatever Mikesoft* do is shit" articles that draws out the trolls like flies 'round turds.

I expect Barry Shitpeas will be here next. And an AC who used to be Eadon.

* I listened to a podcast once with Mr Clarke, MJ Foley and somebody else. Our Gav can't pronounce "Microsoft". This is probably the root of his problem although the absolute ignorance of software was probably the reason for the two-second silence after he said anything where MJ and the other bloke tried to pretend he hadn't

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Eurovision tellybods: Yes, you heard right – net neutrality

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Not so much a "musical telly glitterfest" - more of a televised Pride party.

That isn't a bad thing but I always wondered why a show apparently specifically designed to appeal to gay men so often features so many fine looking women.

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