Re: Welcome to the Lewis and Andrew Show

oh go on, hold your breath.

Re: Android/Nokia

(WP7 PR agents?)

If you suspect that people here are paid PR agents, you should report their posts. Don't call it out in the forums because that's against the House Rules and makes you look like Barry Shitpeas, the well-known Sony publicist.

I suspect it can't do SIP in the background at all.

You're both right and wrong, interestingly enough. It can do foreground SIP. It can't leave a SIP process running to poll for calls. However, some solutions are more clever than others. Tango, for example, send a push notification of an incoming VOIP call which initiates the VOIP client. A cunning workaround.

Skype (who aren't SIP but used as an example) aren't bright enough for this, despite being an MS property these days.

To be frank, nothing in the current market does SIP well (Android and iOS bothy stink at it) but there's Nokia's PureUltraPhotoResolution thing which is Symbian and should cope.

Best policy right now is to hold off on upgrading for six months. That'll give you iOS6, Android5 JellyBean (apparently) and WP8, as well as whatever RIM can salvage.

Re: Latency Tom 38

@TechnicalBen

If your thoughts were accurate, all online gaming would be impossible. Even LAN gaming would be unfeasibly slow.

Stop being ridiculous.

Re: Android Porting

I don't give a shit about the last word. I want to know WHY you always do this.

I know you think Windows Phone is ugly, you said so before. de gustibus non est disputandum so that's valid but then again, it also means you can't go around saying "everyone! don't buy this, it's ugly!". So instead we get this "underpowered" nonsense. Which is madness, because if Android could run on less than half the resources that WP needs, the Android fans would never shut up about it. But because it's Microsoft, it's a fault.

What I really don't get is why so many people here actively want this to fail. Would a successful (say, 30% of market) WP prevent you from buying an Android phone? Or an iPhone? No. Would it drive down the prices and drive up the quality of Android phones and iPhones? Probably, since that is a feature of competition.

But no, they want it to fail. Which implies that they want to pay more for less. And they tell pretty outrageous lies about it in the process, which is worse.

I wish I understood it. Is it some sort of religious thing?

Re: Android Porting

I am not going to buy an old 100Mhz computer, not even if it has a turbo button.

Does your laptop have a low-power chip in it? Do you own any ARM-powered devices? I ask since low-power also means "reduced performance" and ARM is by definition considerably less powerful than x86/x64. Your statement is the equivalent of "I would never buy a DVD player to watch my DVDs on when a £3000 gaming rig can do that job and is more powerful".

In other words, it's drivel. You're just criticizing for the sake of it.

Re: Android Porting

@Miek: Suppose for a second that I gave you a truly open-source version of linux that ran flawlessly on a 100MHz (yes M, no Gs) single core chip and offered extreme battery life savings because of this.

By your logic, it would be crap.

I think you have a problem here.

It's not exactly Android yet, but it looks as if phones are selling.

Unless Reuters isn't a good enough source to be taken seriously. And yeah, three years late, etc etc etc. I think it'll get there, assuming Microsoft don't make WP8 an ugly static grid of icons like Bob Vistakin's beloved WIndows 3.1. Or iOS and Android, for that matter.

Re: Fixes the most glaring issue

I assume Windows Phone 7.5 hasn't changed in any way which really impacts on the device's ability to compete with other modern handsets.

It got an official El Reg app this morning. That helps. Also, it may encourage Barry Shitpeas to go troll somewhere else given that you could interpret this as the Reg officially acknowledging that WP7 is growing and not going away any time soon.

Re: Something missing from this analysis, surely?

At least a part of the problem is caused by EuroMilk™.

Britain has a quota on how much milk it is permitted to produce. That quota is set artificially low in order to ensure that France, the Netherlands and other exporters of milk have a guaranteed market to export to. The UK is about 48% self-sufficient in milk, down from 100% in 1971.

Cows are not machines. It doesn't work like "insert nKg of fodder and o litres of water to produce %FIXED_VOLUME of milk". Some days, you get more milk, some days you get less. In the spring, you usually get more. In the winter, a little less.

If you routinely produce less mil;k than you have quota for, DEFRA will take your quota away. If you ever produce more milk than you have quota for, DEFRA will fine you for each extra litre. It is imperative that the British public continue to buy foreign milk, so you can see why they do this (?).

Thus, you keep enough cattle to maintain your quota in the winter. So that you don't lose it. In the spring, you throw milk away in order to avoid paying DEFRA's fines.

If you want to stop wasting milk, withdraw from the Common Agricultural Policy.

It's nice that Bob takes these little breaks from rubbing his Galaxy S3 against his groin to come here and slag off something he apparently has no interest in, isn't it?

Re: So I guess these are all 1366x768?

I was waiting for the first screenres whinger to show up.

You don't win anything, by the way.

@AC: 16:43

That's also a rumour. Nobody official has commented yet. Thurrott is no more accurate than any other pundit.

Re: 5 months and obsolete

Prove it.

Re: Not much of a loss for Mozilla

apple doesn't have a monoply to abuse

They do. That monopoly is on mp3 players and they abuse it by leveraging iTunes, a content store. That monopoly is what's given them a boost on the desktop and the reason why iOS cultists keep buying iOS. iTunes demands it.

Re: That's because Apple aren't restricting their users to IE.

Yeah I'd totally give up a browser that tries to be standards compliant and webgl for the plethora of exploits and viruses IE has.

What's the weather like in 1998?

@FatsBrannigan

See you there, then?

Nah, the mandarins responsible for it would defend it savagely because their jobs would be secure and they couldn't be blackmailed with tax threats and legislation changes.

Renationalize BT and bring back the GPO.

Re: hmm

Hard to say at the moment whether it's different or not.

If you can create a fully-featured Metro browser using MS's WinRT tools (and I don't know whether or not you can yet), it's different because nobody says you HAVE to browse from the Classic Desktop (which is limited to Office 15 anyway, noting else runs on the desktop that might trigger a link).

If browsers you create using WinRT lack functionality or are limited in some way, or (for example) use IE for rendering, it's the same.

I personally hope that WinRT supports the creation of a full-featured Metro Firefox (and Chrome, etc) in which case, the old-style Classic Desktop on a Win8 ARM tablet is irrelevant - the metro version would be enough.

Re: Hit the fan

Thanks for speaking for the entire Internet. Without your comment, the Internet would have nobody to tell Microsoft what every single last user in the entire world thinks. Lucky you were here to go around and ask them all!

All those web search tables showing Bing at approx. 20% of global searches are just done for fun because it's such a laughing stock, aren't they? And nobody at all will buy Windows 8 so they might as well not bother!

And Gavin Clarke always knows better than multi-billion dollar companies which is why he's, er... a journalistic nobody? Wait, that can't be right.....