1928 posts • joined Monday 16th November 2009 12:21 GMT
Re: Apples and Oranges
HAMs have a problem with anything that might possibly use electricity in a modulated form, whether or not it affect SW etc.
Take a look around the Reg forums and all you'll see is anecdotal bollocks about Powerline networking (usually allegedly belonging to someone else) which is CLEARLL the cause of all their poor, poor troubles. It's the equivalent of asking a Parish Council if they'd approve of somebody building any form of manufacturing industry in "their" area - 100% guaranteed, they will vote against. Because they're all a) retired and b) the kind of tosser who stands for a parish council in the first place.
Okay, HAMs aren't quite that bad but they are amateurs with some very dangerous opinions about what causes RF signal modulation and usually no training in proper testing and frequency analysis.
It's like asking trainspotters to comment on a proposed motorway extension.
I'm bored. Also irritated.
I'm sick of writing applications and designing architecture for corporates who only do boring things with the stuff I produce and never, never provide anything resembling an interesting challenge and I'm irritated with Contract Agents who know less about IT than the inferior sandwich I ate for lunch did.
I'd like to get out of this malarky and do some of what you do instead. Actually knowing what the technologies do and are for has got to be better than sending automated spam emails looking for Java Test Team Leaders because a 10 year-old CV had JUnit on it. (I removed that pretty damn quick).
How do I go about this?
Re: Ah, little England - "for the UK and Europe"
I suppose Anon thinks we should be at "the heart of Europe" including full Euro membership...
The EU. A fundamentally bad idea which provides cushy retirement for politicians and lots of bribe money for bankers, all paid for by the citizen.
Radio Hams are full of crap
Sorry guys. I still have a cupboard full of RF diags kit and the Royal Signals training to use it and what do I find from my Devolo adapters? Nothing. Nada. Not a twitch outside of normal variance experienced when the bloody things aren't even switched on or plugged in.
To anyone that complains about powerline networking - if you own a microwave oven or a hairdryer, you are either looking in the wrong place or a massive hypocrite.
The Brits get chemicals (mainly alcohol), the Germans get soullessly efficient machines and the French get an existential talking shop about whether patents are subject to ennui or not.
Re: already does?
My understanding is the new OS X will install these during sleep time
I don't think you mean the same thing by "sleep" as I do in the context of a computer if yours has stuff installing through it.
Re: Watch out, Microsoft
incoming - iPatch Tuesday.
Hmm. Possibly too piratical.
"ultraflops" "inhell" - You're conforming perfectly to a certain stereotype so far.
Here's a test - name the company that publishes Visio.
Of course, I don't doubt that you can name it, I'm just testing which of the "downs syndrome facsimile of funny" spellings you use.
Note - I don't necessarily believe this, I'm just throwing it out there because it could fit Dominic's observation.
Women leave IT in droves because it is a binary pass/fail proposition. Either you succedd and your code works or you fail and it doesn't. No amount of interpersonal skills and/or nice legs are going to change that.
Therefore, perhaps there is some impetus to seek a career in a field where interpersonal skills and/or nice legs do make a difference instead.
(Kat, if you're reading, I swear to Kibo I'm just trying to find a hypothesis that fits the observed facts....)
Re: Kindle Fire looks obsolete
You're assuming that the consumer gives a damn about "open" or even knows what it is.
I would suggest that those criteria apply only to a tiny minority of consumers and that when Amazon start showing off the Fire on the UK/EU front-page, they'll start selling those Fires to consumers who are happy to shop with Amazon and recognize Google only as a search engine.
Re: Open Source
You're assuming that the major costs involved in ownership of software are licensing. I have to say, I find that extremely unlikely.
In particular, the major SAP cost is the millions you need to spend on consultants to make it even approximate working with any non-SAP system.
I'm not saying OSS might not be cheaper. I'm just saying that "free" doesn't always mean you save any money.
Re: Makes sense
>>the Android route was a dead end in terms of sales and profits.
>That isn't too important to the people making Android hardware.
uh... are you suggesting that making Android hardware somehow removes the need to make sales and profits?
If so, please explain. Because that's not a business model I'm familiar with.
Re: Android is running away with the China smartphone market
All I see in Shanghai is wall-to-wall iPhones.
This makes me wonder what you're really seeing.
Re: @Sander van der Vaal
Yup. It's not fantastic but it's probably comparable to running a development environment on a four year-old Macbook.
Re: Makes sense
Disagree. Samsung's tablet hardware is nice and Asus also make a cracking tablet. Both are going down the W8 route, presumably because (as El Reg keeps telling us), the Android route was a dead end in terms of sales and profits.
@Sander van der Vaal
Which is why it's so much more expensive to develop for Android, which any 10-year old machine with a free OS on can compile code for. Oh wait, that's not expensive at all!
Enjoy your crappy Macbook.
So if there's all this fragmentation which makes it harder to develop for why is Android still much cheaper to develop for then iOS?
Because it doesn't require you buy a Mac which is overpriced to start with, and then spend yet more money on the requirements to develop software on that Mac.
Apple make way more than their 30% protection money from iOS developers.
Way to contradict your own previous article.
Have you come to the conclusion that since nobody takes this "Open and Shut" bollocks seriously anymore, a controversial headline and a couple of nice pictures with 500 random words is sufficient?
Android has effectively failed on tablets already. El Reg keeps posting us Apple propaganda with this "news" as if we didn't already know. Arguing that Surface suddenly means that this highly closed source "open" project suddenly rules the world is even more bizarre than your usual tripe.
A Mac is still a PC. If there is a virus that a Mac can be infected with, then the claim was patently false advertising.
Re: @Lee Dowling
Re: Not calculate!!!
It's useful as a kind of calendar. For example, if it's covered in snow, it's probably winter.
There are no tat shops in Avebury and only there's only English Heritage tat at Stonehenge.
You're thinking of Glastonbury.
Stonehenge (and Avebury) were built by Neolithic Wiltshiremen to irritate their descendants.
Speaking as a descendant, it worked. Bloody hippies turning up every summer....
They didn't. Technically. They said "we're launching a new thing, show up and find out" and then they let the internet do all the hyping.
I didn't see any MS ads anywhere for Surface before the event.
I It was liked the black bar. It kept your thumb off the tiles when scrolling. It gave a clear view of where to find the App List. It was tidy. Clean.
The WP8 homescreen looks like a cluttered mess.
Sure, the features are good (especially MicroSD support) and I don't much give a damn about not being able to upgrade my November 2010 phone to an OS that makes it runs like a three-legged dog but really, despite all the retarded comments about wasted space we got from fandroid trolls, it was clean. It was simple. It was minimal.
This is just a mess.
Re: HP and Dell?
No pulling of anything - these are Win7 licenses for a company-wide upgrade.
Re: HP and Dell?
but from what I always heard
Really? From a bloke in the pub? From somebody on the Internet?
I can't tell you exactly what HP pay for each Win7 copy because that's not openly available information. HP negotiate their price and regard it as a closely-guarded trade secret. So do the other OEMs.
I can tell you that the company I work for has more than 50,000 PCs worldwide and we pay just under $10/u on volume licensing. I can also tell you that the more licenses you buy, the lower the cost drops. $5 is a very conservative estimate when you're talking about millions of units.
Re: HP and Dell?
The rumor is that MS will be charging full price ($85) to OEMs for WinRT.
Oh for fuck's sake, not this FUD again.
HP don't pay $85 for a Windows 7 license. They pay bulk discount rate and the final figure is normally $5/license. Dell are the same. Asus and Lenovo and all the other OEMs? Oh yeah, those too.
Dave's Computer Building Services of 19 Nadger Street, Choad might well pay $85. No actual player does.
Re: BAU for MS then?
"The reason for buying Windows is to run Windows programs."
What's the justification for buying Android? A deep and abiding love of FOSS*? Around here, possibly. Everywhere else in the Universe, probably not. A pants-tightening slavish love of Google? No, or there'd be a market for Chromebooks.
It's cheap and doesn't crash as much as the last version? Yeah. Now we're getting somewhere.
If MS deliver an experience that's price-comparable and doesn't crash at all (you can hate on WP7 all you like but it's rock-solid stable, as a controlled hardware/software platform should be) then the criteria change.
At that point, it's not about "is it cheaper" but about "does it work with my other stuff".
Your other stuff may be 100% Android/linux but you have to admit that's an edge case. And Android tablets and phones do not integrate all that well.
That sort of leaves the field there for the taking, barring only Apple Cultists who will always buy Apple anyway.
*For highly flexible values of FOSS
Re: I don't get the fuss
Well yes, although it will cost you the Netherland's entire Armed Forces budget if you do.
And I don't carry an ethernet cable and have never been unable to find one on a client site. They pay you to work, not knock one out over how shiny you laptop is and therefore, they find you a bloody cable.
Re: The last time Microsoft decided to go it alone with hardware...
Barry is still butthurt that Microsoft make money on the 360 now and haven't had their multiplayer network pwned.
Poor Barry. Not much resale value on a PS3 these days, huh?
Re: They're making the wrong one redundant
An ability to recognize a species does not mean one considers oneself a member of a different species.
Consider it merely a reminder.
What we think and what we type here is pretty much bullshit.
Joe Public doesn't give a shit if his phone is Android or WP or even Symbian as long as it's a "good phone". He probably wants an iPhone because it has an (in my opinion unjustified) good reputation but sees it as an unreasonable expense.
Beyond "iPhone, Blackberry, HTC, Samsung, Nokia" it's all just nerds talking bullshit. The public don't care about OS.
Re: They're making the wrong one redundant
Oh Barry, I knew you'd show up.
It was the "XBox division is still losing lots of money" lie that gave you away.
You pro-Sony FUD-spreading shill.
Re: Is he still news?
I do wonder why the Reg has dropped the Assange™ thing. They don't usually let go of a joke that soon.
The whole article carries that tone. Odd, really. It's not like they're worse than any other telco.
Re: Vote Up
Given that the PM is a politician, that's like asking if you think a Mondeo is a car.
@Paul Shirley - I imagine they think they can sell devices, and as mentioned, Nokia Maps is actually making money already, based purely on Microsoft's licensing of it.
They may be wrong. If so, that's how it goes but really, I see so much hate for attempting to make a good decision. Just because it didn't support your (not specific your, just generic your) favourite mobile OS doesn't make it the enemy.
And it doesn't make Elop a trojan horse, either. I've tried to show here how the decision looks when you don't have a vested interest and aren't either a) consumed with hatred toward a particular company* or b) a fanatical cheerleader for some technology you feel a need to define yourself by.
*DISCLAIMER - alright, I'll freely admit to a hatred of the Cult of Apple but that's not relevant to this discussion so it doesn't invalidate anything here.
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