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Re: Apple will lose this
c) You really, REALLY don't want to get into an arse-kicking contest with Jeff Bezos.
He's not a nice person and he has no limits when it comes to counterattacks.
The sideswipe at Nokia in this article too?
Without mentioning how much of Bing Maps is actually powered by Nokia (and thus Navteq) maps?
Research. It's not hard. You can even get your morning chubby from doing your research via Google on your 90% iPhone5.
Re: There is not now....
you're not a developer then? You wouldn't write applications that were popular or profitable because of... what? Tiles?
You're not an administrator who may in his current or some later job be asked to manage an operating system he didn't select/buy?
You don't work in Support where you'd be asked to manage quesries and issues with an OS you didn't select?
You're not a tech architect who might possibly be tasked with designing a solution using infrastucture you didn't personally specify?
If all of these are the case, why are you reading and commenting on the Register?
I thought it was for IT pros. Not hobbyists or marketing. What are you?
No, ass. I'm claiming .NET is being expanded and enhanced, which it is. Eadon insists it's dying on the basis of exactly no evidence other than Gavin Clarke - who knows dick about dick - saying so repeatedly on the basis of, er, no evidence.
Re: Development Hell
Everyone knows that .NET is dying
Cut it out with the endless LIES, man. It's old and boring and you're no longer fooling anyone.
.NET4 is built into Win8 as a part of the OS. .NET has been expanded to target WinRT as well as Win32 and Win64. Check for yourself and stop repeating bullshit, for fuck's sweet sake.
Maybe, if you spun it as "textured for her pleasure".
Re: Surely Android store is now the benchmark
I call bullshit.
If Android shows 5 million activations per day then just this year alone it has activated better than 268x5,000,000 smartphones and tablets. That's 1,340,000,000. Are you seriously trying to tell me that Google have shifted an Android install to more than 1/5th of the planet's population this year alone?
There's 98 days of this year left. By that time, according to your figures, there's be another 490,000,000 Android activations, meaning almost 1/3rd of the planet. In this single year alone.
Android has been available since October 2008. How much saturation did it already have?
How much longer are these mad statistics going to be bandied about? Keep it up for another year at the current exponential rate of growth and the only way it would be feasible would be if we all slept on a bed made out of phones.
(And the fanbois are just as fucking bad. Stop it, all of you).
" they're paid to check their facts"
like Johann Hari, you mean?
Re: "The Trust will bleed it's businesses dry before the Guardian is allowed to expire,"
wait - you're going to stop doing something you like doing in the hope that doing so can stop other people from doing what they like doing, when what they do has no effect on you whatsoever?
That makes you a wanker.
I reckon BT has their employees ring up and complain about Talk Talk. It's the only conceivable explanation.
ZOMG ONLY 10000 APPS WINDOZE FAIL
plus about three billion more that you can install without the app store. fail fail fail?
Re: Race to the Bottom
@boltar :- How about the phone-hacking scandal? Without the Graun, the NotW would still be up to its dirty tricks, Murdoch would own Sky outright and Jeremy Cunt would have been promoted.
They do investigate. It's rare, but they do. If you follow the Paul Foot Prize coverage in Private Eye, you'll note that the Grauniad are nominated every year. The Telegraph is nominated most years, too. The Daily Mail has never been nominated yet.
people actually use Yahoo search?
I thought these days they were an email provider with delusions of grandeur.
Re: Race to the Bottom
To be fair, about 90% of political and current affairs reportage is already exactly this.
Re: It's ready enough
I love this.
I love that some people really believe that Windows 8 will cause the linux-on-the-desktop revolution to happen. It's a bit like listening to a bunch of decaying old Trotskyites telling each other "this year, Comrades, this year the filthy Tories and their filthy Pasty Tax will deliver the proletariat right into our hands!"
There seems to be this genuine longing for it to happen, like Radio Hams genuinely wishing for a disaster so they can be heroes.
I'm archiving all this so that when Windows 12 kills the Metro Start screen, I can compare and contrast because surely, this time, this time it must be true, mustn't it? It must be? They said the Rapture would be soon, didn't they?
linux on the desktop, 2025?
Re: iTards can all get lost
And at least he didn't hide behind the banner of AC.
Well no, but "Bob" "Vista" "Kin" shows pretty much where our Bob lies on the "let's consider the various qualities of these competing products and make a rational judgement on those qualities alone" scale. He registers a 44 on the trollometer.
Not that my "name" is on my passport either, although at least mine is personally descriptive and not chosen to troll anyone, except those who'd prefer that people give up easily or who like cats.
If Oracle go all Cloud, how can they continue to levy extortionate rates for their horrible database that hates dealing with any product designed to, er, display or manipulate data?
No, Oracle will keep selling their horrible crap (it works, sure, it just hates actually being used) to exactly the kind of blue-chip play-it-safe-at-all-costs it's-taxpayers-money-anyway institutions as always. And those people don't put their data in "the Cloud".
Seriously Matt, you only gave us one buzzword this week. You've ruined the office bingo game.
Still, at least you're consistently wrong.
Subset is probably accurate
I'm on VM and am not having any problems, but I could be in a set of 1. The other subset could be "everyone else". It's unlikely to be that extreme but it's possible.
Re: I don't understand the fuzz
eadon - it ain't stalking if in every comment thread on a Microsoft product - and I work with those so I'm interested - there you are, saying how shit and evil it is.
Every. Single. One.
Anyone would think somebody paid you to go through all those threads putting out as much negative astroturf as possible. No me, of course. I just think you're an idiot.
Re: I don't understand the fuzz
While I agree that he writes like a marketroid, you still just breached the House Rules.
Again. You keep doing that - insisting that anyone who disagrees with you is paid by Microsoft.
I, for the record, am a technical architect currently on a contract with a Local Government authority in the West Country. So don't even think about it.
Re: Still waiting for a decent Java IDE
C# is an ECMA standard, liar. That's how come you can write C# for Mono under Linux. Further, there are two runtimes, 3.5 and 4. 3.5 contains all previous targets.
It's pretty clear you know nothing about .NET. Please, keep your ignorance to yourself.
Ernest Saunders. He got three years in Leyhill Open Prison before declaring himself senile and being released immediately.
If you code like you write, then I'm pretty certain your "skills" match your knowledge of .NET by not existing at all.
Oh, and @Ken Hagen -
WPF is a Presentation Framework (hence the name). It can't do anything except draw shit on the screen (along with some stuff like bidirectional binding, which is nifty but exists for the purposes of, er, drawing shit on the screen).
Nobody with any clue as to what they were talking would claim that VS2012 is written wholly in WPF because that would be impossible. Thus, I find your attack on the speaker either a) ignorant or b)... disingenuous.
Re: DOT NET IS DOT DEAD
Edit button please - you can also say that about XNA, which, although it still works and can be used to develop desktop and XBox games, is not being updated and can't write Metro games. Like Silverlight which will be supported but not updated.
But that's seriously it. Neither of those two addressed the full .NET framework anyway.
Why does the Reg keep telling us .NET is dead when it clearly, to anyone who bothered who to even look for 5 seconds, isn't?
Re: DOT NET IS DOT DEAD
The only thing you can say that about is Silverlight.
I don't know why the Reg keeps on running this same bullshit story day after day but as a dev/tech architect who is actively using and developing for Win8 right now, here's how it is.
The .NET framework is a means of addresses core APIs via managed code. It also includes a lot of handy functionality and utility APIs. .NET 4.0 is bundled with Win8. You can't even disable it during the install - it is there whatever you do. It's regarded as a core part of the OS.
In the past, .NET addressed the Win32 API. Then it was expanded to include the Win64 API. Now they've added the WinRT API to the functionality which .NET can address. Does WinRT have all the power of Win32? No. Does .NET address it? Yes.
You can still write .NET code in VB, C#, (Managed) C++, F# and IronPython. You pick the platform you're targeting, you just have more choices than "Win32/Win64/Mixed".
.NET 4.5 is now released and contains some pretty wow functionality in terms of the Web API and MVC4.
The article is just more of this outright falsehood. How in the hell is this being reported as fact?
Re: DOT NET IS DOT DEAD
None of the things you call dead are dead.
Why are you lying?
.NET is not. (It's absence is the main reason why Win8 manages a smaller footprint than Win7.)
Uh, what? Yes it is. .NET4 is installed by default, .NET3.5 (which is cumulative and contains .NET1, .NET1.1, .NET2.0, .NET3.0 and .NET3.5 itself) is an option install, like IIS.
Where is all this ".NET IS DED O NOEZ WE IZ ALL DUMED" bullshit coming from? It can't be from .NET developers, who already know better.
So what's the source? Ignorant people with big mouths or deliberate FUD? Gotta be one or the other.
Hobbit dollars. We have no idea what the actual price is yet.
Re: Made by Acer !!!
They certainly have been for the past few years but it seems to be something that Acer are aware of. There have been various stories about their board recognizing the quality issue and being determined to go higher quality and higher price.
Pity about the price - the quality change remains to be seen.
There's "All Apps" which does the same thing.
as a power user, I couldn't make it work easily
Wow, you must be a seriously intelligent and supersmart "power user". Couldn't rearrange the burrons? I know, right-click and then drag is so hard, right?
So you predict failure because obviously everyone is more stupid than you since you're such a talented "power user".
I love this, it's hilarious. My 68 year old mother managed it and she's no "power user". She was a nurse before nursing was counted as a degree course so obviously she can't be anywhere near so clever as you.
Calling somebody a shill just because they don't agree with you and your fellow howling fanboys is not allowed under the Reg's own rules.
Which is why you get not only a downvote but also reported.
Re: WinPho8 ha no chance
Actually, they were found guilty of attempting a leverage a legal monopoly into another market (to wit, browsers).
The monopoly was not illegal. "Convicted monopolist", a phrase that's used a lot on the Reg comments, is meaningless in this instance.
Re: Other phone companies...
Huawei are also confirming at least one WP8 handset.
I'm not quite certain who it is that's downvoting raw verifiable information given in answer to a query but it does make one wonder (even more) at the kind of educationally subnormal individual on the internet these days.
Re: WinPho8 ha no chance
Microsoft are an immoral company
And Google and Apple are moral companies?
Re: The advantages of a reboot
Any guesses as to what a £100 Windows 8 phone will be like?
Maybe, and this is just a wild stab in the dark you understand, a bit like the £120 Lumia 710 and £100 Lumia 610?
Re: weather <> climate
Educate me then.
Criticism without education is what I've grown to expect from the Anthropomorphic Climate Change religion. Break the pattern. Show without sneering.
Re: Assuming of course...
You get a lot of kiddies out there who grew up on engadget and gizmodo and don't actually understand what the term "vaporware" means.
This is evidently one of them.
Re: The problem is Windows.
People don't want Windows on their phone.
YOU don't want Windows on your phone. The public don't buy a Windows Phone or an Android Phone. They buy a Nokia or an HTC or a Samsung or whatever. The only exception is that they do buy an iPhone, although most still don't know what iOS is, merely that Apple stuff all works with other Apple stuff.
They don't know what Android is at all and Windows is just the thing on the laptop.
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