Re: Anyone remember Courier (no not the font!)
maybe I was channelling badly.
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maybe I was channelling badly.
I think they can arrest you as a terrorist for that.
Or in fact, anything.
It's already beyond a promo video. Journalists at the event used it, for themselves.
Also, Courier was never even officially acknowledged by MS. There were leaks and refusals to comment and then rumours and then more leaks and then a leak that Bill Gates canned it personally because it had no email client.
MEANWHILE IN BOB VISTAKIN'S MIND
There isn't even a promo video! All these articles from journos who say they tried it - notice MS took all their phones and recording devices away? Yeah. Then they either drugged them and made them all hallucinate exactly the same thing OR showed them all the spy footage they got on Kinect and blackmailed them to say exactly what Nadella wants them to say. It is all a fake lie to let the NSA read your post-it notes.
Satya Nadella -> SN -> NS -> anyone?
According to Peter Bright's write-up of the demo on Ars Technica, they are currently deeply uncomfortable with glasses but work without issue. The "ow, me nose" problem is being worked on apparently :)
No, it looks to me like Paul Shirley is desperate to find something wrong with it.
Just like Gavin Clarke.
Blimey Gavin, how long did it take you find a negative spin for "FREE AS IN BEER"?
Not a subscription, just free. A giveaway.
What would you have written if it wasn't free? Same story, different headline?
PRICEY UPGRADE TO WIN10 WILL KILL WINDOWS FOREVER - subheading "Please love me, hate brigade".
What next? Will open sourcing .NET be a cancer?
Get a proper job or go work for the Sport or the Mail - they don't have any readers capable of bullshit detection.
> Driving in the car and wanting to find a restaurant on the spur of the moment doesn't seem to be a common occurrence for most people.
But driving in the car and replying to an urgent text is a very common situation.
Nice try though.
I did not downvote. However, Terry Myerson stated at the event that once you've installed Win10 it will be updated free of charge for the lifetime of the device (just as it is now with Windows Update) so therefore, this is an irrelevant question instigated by lousy reporting.
I note that my response containing the facts from the event has also been downvoted, presumably by people who want you to think it's a subscription you keep paying for. Who those people work for, I leave to your imagination.
Nobody knows how much it will cost to upgrade to Win10 after a year from release.
Everyone knows exactly how much it will cost to continue to use your Win10 box after a year - nothing. there is no subscription.
That's just FUD.
I use Cortana a lot on my phone but I only talk to Cortana in the car. The rest of the time, I type my questions/instructions. Obviously, I don't want to do that while driving but I find it's by far the best option.
Cortana's added-value searches are pretty good and I get to control them precisely with my text rather than have a back-end on Azure try to guess what I wanted or get it wrong if I happen to sneeze or be eating a mint or whatever.
I can see typing to Cortana becoming useful on the desktop, especially given the extra bells and whistles they're giving it. That thing about searching for a restaurant on Maps and getting not only the location but also (optionally) opening times, contact details, reviews and menus? Handy.
The result on about 80% of decent .NET code these days would be "clears Green on Resharper" which hardly identifies anyone.
It's all about the tools...
This is confirmed false and now clearly a case of dodgy reporting.
During the post-event Q&A Terry Myerson said "Upgrading is free if you do it within a year. If you upgrade later than a year after launch there will be a cost associated with doing so.This is not a subscription model. *aside to guy next him* that would be nuts. Nobody would do that".
So, there you go. Business as usual, one year special offer on price (100% reduction), no subscription, some really nasty spin from the journalists present* and the usual paranoid hate and FUD from El Reg's legion of
Google employees commentards.
* speaking of which, the video of the event is crazy. Watch what happens when they bring out the hologram stuff. Did you see that? That's right, nothing happens. Show these people a slightly bigger iPhone and they scream and cheer and clap and weep for the genius of Apple. Show them some Tony Stark-level working technology and they go "meh".
I think we have the wrong journalists.
I'm sure the loss of you as a customer has Satya Nadella heartbroken.
> That just about sums up Microsoft's attitude to security. It's a feature rather than and inherent part of the OS
Really? You think so? Who spends as much on securing their products as MS? Anyone? Anyone at all?
Didn't think so.
And it's not an inherent part of any OS except TAILS and even that's broken in places.
That sounded like marketing given that they were talking about users installing updates. Sounds no different to 7 or 8.1 and Windows Update to me.
No, it's like saying you built a factory that makes steering wheels for trucks and cars at the same time.
How much overlap between a phone and a desktop PC? Well.. remember Windows 95? Your phone almost certainly exceeds the minimum specs to run it (architecture changes between x86 and ARM notwithstanding). It would probably run Windows 8.1 if you got an ARM build.
So to answer your question - quite a lot.
Have you been under a rock?
Ah, two shills already downvoting facts.
Have fun, saddoes.
You're probably going to die from alcohol poisoning.
You've got that slightly wrong (but to be fair, your source - the article - is nonsense withut any notable content so it's not your fault).
They're not saying "one app, all platforms". It refers to software architecture.
Using the MVVM pattern, the front-end is entirely separate from the logic which is entirely separate from the data storage/online API/whatever. So you only write one version of the actual logic that does everything and then you stick different pretty but stupid front-ends on it for different platforms. A desktop app would therefore probably be a very different beast from a phone app but both benefit from the fact that the front-end is stupid and all the work has already been done once.
oh look, Bob Vistakin, pirithous, Hans 1....
There's just something about Gavin's endless, clueless "whatever Mikesoft* do is shit" articles that draws out the trolls like flies 'round turds.
I expect Barry Shitpeas will be here next. And an AC who used to be Eadon.
* I listened to a podcast once with Mr Clarke, MJ Foley and somebody else. Our Gav can't pronounce "Microsoft". This is probably the root of his problem although the absolute ignorance of software was probably the reason for the two-second silence after he said anything where MJ and the other bloke tried to pretend he hadn't
Happy birthday. That's much better than more of Gavin Clarke's fuckwitted drivel.
Not so much a "musical telly glitterfest" - more of a televised Pride party.
That isn't a bad thing but I always wondered why a show apparently specifically designed to appeal to gay men so often features so many fine looking women.
I was going to say "then use the SD card" but then I remembered that you are Hans 1 and therefore this tablet sucks because Microsoft had something to do with it.
So you won't buy one anyway.
> Google Docs is of course free....
So is Office Online.
Apparently Narrator has improved a great deal. As a test, I had my blind colleague run it for the morning - because this is interesting stuff and it applies to our own software as well - and he claims it's "good enough for work". I also ran diagnostics on the PC he was using (i3, 4GBRAM test box) and it did not appear to feel any strain from the extra overhead.
Obviously, that's some way removed from an Atom with 1GB regardless of Haswell's improvements but it's something.
> I trust Android and Google to do he right things
You're funny, I like you.
> LOL, not this competition is good nonsense.
Sorry AC, it looks like people keep forgetting that a 100% Android monopoly and the absolute death and bankruptcy of Microsoft, Apple, Oracle, IBM and while we're about it RedHat and Canonical are absolutely the right conditions for improvement because you like Google.
How careless of everyone capable of rational thought.
> I won't respond to your remark on the apps, because that is 100% trolling
I can see the rest of the post as trollish but there are over a half million Store apps. You can easily check that. And you can indeed use Bluestacks to run Android apps should you so wish.
So would you mind explaining that?
(For clarity, I was not the AC you're responding to. I very, very rarely use AC cover on the Reg).
> My guess is you are totally wrong. I have this thing called a PASSWORD.
And as many user accounts as you like, don't forget.
> content providers such as 4OD have in the past specifically blocked the use of the HDMI port when playing their media
I would suggest that this is an unlikely strategy when that software is running on what is, essentially,a full Windows PC.
You block the HDMI port, how is anyone supposed to use a monitor?
I think the touchscreen drivers might make that tricky.
No iPlayer because the BBC get discount Macs and their kids use Android tablets.
However, TV Catchup does iPlayer quite well and there's always the (full) browser.
When I was using a Windows tablet I would occasionally bitch about lack of apps and then smell the coffee and remember I could run a full browser of any flavour I liked...
> I now need to revise my advice
To reflect your stance in the OS Jihad? How not very enlightened of you :/
I might think about this but I had an Asus VivoTab 8 that I got for the Wacom stylus and ended up barely using it. More than anything, this was due to the awful gritty feel of the screen glass under the stylus making it genuinely unpleasant to work with.
I would get a replacement but it would need to be a similar size (between 6 and 8 inches diagonal) and a "premium" product so that it was pleasant to use.
In the meantime, I have just bought my little boy a Hudl.
Well, that ruined the joke. Unless the others are all manlier than her.
> How dare you use the phrase "special olympics" as a derogatory term with the implication that paralympians get medals just for turning up.
Nobody mentioned the Paralympics. I mentioned the Special Olympics which is an admirable competition but where you do actually get medals just for turning up.
These forums are not designed along the same lines so you don't get treated nicely for turning up and I get to call you an idiot.
> Also, why the personal insult over Caroline Lucas's appearance?
You're just begging to be offended about something, aren't you? I mean, you're really working at it. I bet you write letters to newspapers and go on Have Your Say.
In case you are as simple-minded as you seem, Caroline Lucas was the only woman standing in Brighton when she was elected. Brighton is well-known for having a large gay population. I made a joke, based on the fact that all of the other "drag acts" hadn't even bothered - ie, they were men wearing suits with trousers.
I doubt if anyone hates our current crop of self-serving shitbags more than me. That doesn't mean I want to see minority racists getting to rule coalitions.
Or the fucking LibDems. In the UK, all PR would mean is that whoever you vote for, you always get the bastard LibDems.
(EDIT @sabroni - I did not downvote you. Each man's political opinion is his own affair).
> proportional representation
No. PR is the special olympics of electoral systems - you get elected just for turning up.
The good thing about FPTP is that at least the losers get to lose and the more they lose by the bigger losers they are. See also the BNP, the SWP and the Greens.
Admittedly, Greens do have an MP but only in Brighton and that's only because the population thought it was a contest for the best drag-act.
I think they took it off as a result of Greens vs Lewis Page and Fandroids vs Orlowski.
I used to do the same but my dad died and the landlords took the farm so these days I just code.
My dad was a small farmer, which is a misnomer as he may only have had 120 acres but he was also six foot eight so the description feels a bit weird. Still "bloody enormous wall of West Country Stubborn with a small farm" doesn't roll off the tongue...
anyway, he fully supported the abolition of all farming subsidies and the CAP. He said the game was rigged toward East Anglian land barons who could afford to buy as many MPS as they liked and the agrichemical companies who could afford to buy as many MAFF officials as they liked.
This is, I have discovered over the years, a very common attitude among farmers with less than 300 or so acres in the UK. In order to reduce the voting impact of this attitude, it has been the policy of most governments since Heath signed the country away to eradicate those farmers. In the name of "efficiency".
You may not WANT to overuse it but it happens pretty much everywhere for exactly the reason you stated - it isn't free.
This means that people like DEFRA (formerly MAFF) are under tremendous pressure to continually increase the "recommended" levels of fertilizer (and pesticide, herbicide, fungicide) used per acre so that the "rural economy" - ie, the fertilizer salesmen - do well. In the western world, fertilizers are also a capital 100% tax deductible business expense so they're not exactly free but come at a penalty of short-term cashflow only.
When the subsidies are pegged to be available to the very biggest farmers (as in the UK, small farmers are expected to do the capitalist thing and die because they're not subsidized efficiently by the state.... don't worry, that confuses me too but is true regardless) and those subsidies are in part discretionary based on the "efficiency" of your agriculture which is partly measured by how well you fall in line with DEFRA's recommendations... well, when that happens Monsanto sell a lot of fertilizer.
You should also note that "efficiency" has - in DEFRA terms - a one-to-one mapping with "monoculture" which by definition relies on fertilizers as otherwise the soil is leeched of N and P and cannot sustain crops (the old method was to leave land fallow for two years, preferably growing clover as a Nitrogen fixer but this is not "efficient"). It also becomes vulnerable to pests, fungi and weeds that are unable to gain a foothold in a crop-rotation system.
So yeah, it's farmers. But they are not alone in this farce.
except Windows Phone only runs on Qualcomm chipsets.
Do you ever actually know anything about the things you post?
You can actually do some pretty amazing stuff with SharePoint. Personally, I loathe and despise the "web parts" widgets but you can write MVC5 against it now which makes it less like skindiving in sewage.
For a multi-function intranet platform with AD integration, it works. And some of the mad shit you can do with it makes it worth learning.
DISCLAIMER - this may come across as unwarranted enthusiasm but until recently I never saw the point of SharePoint at all. Then I integrated our TFS with it because the boss told me to. Then I noticed I could easily produce customisable sites to allow internal and external clients to "buy in" by giving them access to our burndown charts and tests so they could follow progress, and also feature request/bug report stuff so we could stay on top of what they wanted instead of having random lists of unprioritised crap around the place.
So I did that and learned even more crazy stuff I could easily do with it and I'm still kicking myself for not bothering with it four years ago.
Apart from anything else, it pays really well.
TFS Express is your friend.
(I know, but actually, it really is).
Yes, I am actually using it right now. As ALM it's pretty good. If the source control doesn't suit you, you can go for git instead and retain the ALM functionality including the reports and the sharepoint publication of progress data to what we are forced to call "stakeholders".
You don't like it? de gustibus. I find it incredibly flexible and (at the current price of "free for home use/hobbyist use/SME <5devs use) pretty good value.
Did you have a specific criticism or is this just another complaint that makes you look like a supercool leet d00d who knows everything without any actual basis?
What a great way for criminals to use the publicized spook activity as a cover for doing, er, exactly what the spooks are doing.
@AC I read that as a reference to Murphy's Law.
If you didn't, perhaps the problem is at your end.