Re: Just Asking...
No, because IE is still there for that.
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No, because IE is still there for that.
that's nearly as funny as "M$", AC. What a droll man you are.
> buy a chromebook
if you live in Starbucks and never use anything outside of a browser.
Two people were. I didn't know Larry and Sergey voted here.
with proof-of-concept code, naturally.
I wrote to my MP regarding the last heap of crap they shoved through Parliament. He basically told me to fuck off.
>A: Take inspiration from Shinto shrines that have been in existence for hundreds of years, but which are rebuilt every 20 years.
That's very clever......Do you work for GCHQ?
Hey El Reg types,
When are you going to bother to enable SSL on The Register? Both the site and the forums are currently unencrypted and not available encrypted.
It is 2015, y'know.
> Haha good one! So tell me, what's the purpose of Spartan?
To stop supporting nonstandard things like ActiveX.
> IE9 through 10 seem a little better, IE11 seems to play nice with our code base now however without any major modifications, I think there is just one or two CSS changes for it.
>But wow, I still hate Microsoft browsers
So just to clarify, IE11 is fine but you hate it anyway.
Jesus, I actually cannot believe that these articles are somehow getting worse - clearly when you hit bottom, you keep on digging.
1. "modern" browser. Nice try at making it look like it only works with Metro/Modern. Well done. Nobody bought it because they all call themselves modern browsers. These days "modern" means "supports (some of) HTML5".
3. Chrome is a piece of shit. It has built-in spyware, it renders text and graphics incredibly badly, it is slow and it's a big fat memory hog. I could load down FireFox with plugins and it'd still be quicker and more usable than Chrome.
I am a Firefox user. I will not be switching to Spartan. This non-story should have a "SPONSORED BY GOOGLE" label on it.
> Actually with that beard of his, I see your point.
I'm not suggesting that Jesus had his hand up Sooty's arse but....
I have a soft spot for "You Don't Mess With The Zohan" but only because I've spent time in Israel and it is savagely accurate in many respects.
In The Name Of The King, an Uwe Boll take on Dungeon Siege starring Jason Statham, Ray Liotta and Burt Motherfucking Reynolds as the King in question.
I saw the cast and the title on EPG but had no idea it was a game-movie or that darling Uwe was involved.
Jesus H Corbett, that was bad.
however - and in keeping more with your post title, in the "So Bad It's Good" category, I give you Knowing, a Nicholas Cage movie so "knowingly" - I see what they did there - terrible that it's hilarious.
By the time we get to the alien Nazi Angels, I am crying with helpless laughter every time I watch it.
I mentioned the Mr Bean movie above (it's the only movie I've ever walked out of at the cinema) but Daredevil is quite possibly the worst film I've ever seen. And I've seen it twice because some ABSOLUTE BASTARD convinced me that the director's cut was an improvement. I am no longer friends with that person.
The reverse chronology, the fuckawful Affleck voiceover, the terrible, terrible direction and editing, the awful soundtrack... everything about that film is truly awful except for Oliver Platt and the late and much missed Michael Clarke Duncan.
If there was ever a film where you longed for the villain to crush the hero's idiot skull, it's that one.
Oh, I can beat that.
Bean: The Ultimate Disaster Movie
> I find XAML and WPF as mind-bogglingly complicated compared to the simple drag and drop I am used to in Windows Forms. They need to make it as simple as the Windows forms UI and hide all the XAML nonsense in the background.
What? What madness is this? No, no they bloody don't. Windows Forms generates code-behind. That means there is logic in the display. That means that even if you attempt a loosely coupled design, any further UIs you add must replicate that logic extending your codebase every which way. It means unit testing becomes all but impossible.
What you suggest is everything that was wrong with WinForms, WebForms, MFCs and especially VB-bastard-6. What you're suggesting is a WYSIWYG designer because those are so awesome, right? Right?
@Tom 35 -
Hardly. But it's not appreciably worse than any other, just different. There is no learning curve, merely a familiarity curve. I find that some people get over the changes very quickly and some throw a tantrum and refuse to ever use anything different from what they said looked like an unusable Fisher Price toy 13 years ago...
Some other systems created here - for some other industries - require use of linux embedded, so they code for linux embedded.
And MS lobbying educational institutions? Well... there Office Home & Student I suppose but that doesn't make many programmers. If anyone's lobbying these days, it seems to be mainly Apple.
Oh that's easy. Three VERY VERY LARGE pharmaceutical companies are already planning to switch over to it. Supporting Win10 was one of their requirements when this project hit the control-software stage.
> Surely you're bullshitting us. So you're already committing to a platform that isn't released, stabilised, proven or even gained a mentionable user base?
We are committing to support that platform, yes. Our clients are in favour.
> It hasn't - it's caused nothing but grief for most of us.
I'm going to assume you're a superbeing that doesn't need antibiotics, analgesics or vaccines.
Or a dickhead. An anonymous dickead, too scared to back up his sneering with a username.
No, they are on an internal network.
You should probably be aware that this is an upgrade to an existing system. It's actually the sixth upgrade since the original version 1.0 product which ran on Win2K workstations and Windows 98 Embedded.
You almost certainly depend on the products it has monitored and produced.
You might want to kill yourself right now, in fact, just so that you don't have to live with the fact that Windows has been saving your life and easing your pain since 2001. Or maybe you should just grow the fuck up.
Now, we're only a tiny precision engineering company but we're writing for Win10 and IoT for our next product which is all about fine granular control of production lines in the big pharmaceutical factories. As you can imagine, the instrumentation needs to be very, very precise and the data feedback constant in order to get past the FDA.
Admittedly, the front-end of our system is currently WPF but the plan is to go Universal with the launch version and the architecture is in place to support this (loose coupling, disconnected front end, disconnected data store, async model used throughout...)
It should run across workstations, tablets, embedded systems and headless IoT instruments.
So.... some of us are already on board.
Microsoft can't guarantee that carriers will roll out their updates. They've never been able to guarantee that, it's not news. Google can't guarantee it either.
Don't see why not.
Just because Universal Apps are a thing doesn't mean that apps which aren't Universal won't run. WP8.1 already runs universal apps and non_Universal apps.
> Its a Saab, Saab situation
Argh! Earwormed by Elton John!
Damn you, sir.
Normally I don't even look at them but 32? For having your texts read to you? Man. That's crazy.
> tell me you're joking. If you really do text and drive, god help anyone near you.
No, Cortana reads the text, asks if I want to ignore it or answer it, if I choose to answer it I do so by voice.
All handsfree, all via voice.
Are the 32 downvotes for that post strictly a result of poor reading comprehension?
32 thumbs down for stating that having a text read to you in the car and replying by voice is both common and useful?
> Driving in the car and wanting to find a restaurant on the spur of the moment doesn't seem to be a common occurrence for most people.
But driving in the car and replying to an urgent text is a very common situation.
Nice try though.
I did not downvote. However, Terry Myerson stated at the event that once you've installed Win10 it will be updated free of charge for the lifetime of the device (just as it is now with Windows Update) so therefore, this is an irrelevant question instigated by lousy reporting.
I note that my response containing the facts from the event has also been downvoted, presumably by people who want you to think it's a subscription you keep paying for. Who those people work for, I leave to your imagination.
Nobody knows how much it will cost to upgrade to Win10 after a year from release.
Everyone knows exactly how much it will cost to continue to use your Win10 box after a year - nothing. there is no subscription.
That's just FUD.
In the same way that the earth is arguably flat?
> I'm pretty sure MS accounts behave the same as domain accounts when disconnected.
They do. I tested it.
Labour-saving technology is not to save people from labour, JDX. It's to save companies money on their labour bills.
You can tell this by the way our government reacts to people not having a job - first try to starve them to death and then sell them as slaves to Poundland.
If O2 is frequently NO2 then adding Three becomes NO3 or... Nitrate?
and "Okay NO3" becomes KNO3.. Now all we need is C and S from somewhere...
No, this isn't working.
> That's rubbish. Netbooks didn't even really exist when XP was about. The main reason that almost no one bothers selling Linux based PC products is that they cost lots more to provide support for than Windows...
Sorry, that's rubbish. The main reason that Asus stopped selling linux-based netbooks was (according to them) that customers returned them on discovering that they couldn't install Office or play any games.
@Dan 55 - that would require supporting a version of (presumably Visual Studio) compiled for ARM.
Which I personally would have viewed as added value but I'm guessing they didn't fancy the extra support overhead OR Sinofsky ran into political obstruction from the head of Server & Tools which was, er, Nadella.
> WinMo 7
Never existed. The last version of Windows Mobile was 6.5
> I paid 200 quid for it and got a years world-wide Skype and 200GB of OneDrive, it was worth it. It is a fantastic device, I no longer take a laptop when travelling abroad but don't have to rely totally on my phone, especially for watching movies etc., brilliant.
I personally think this is great news because I've been itching to play with one of these things but could never justify the price. Now hopefully they'll start hitting Ebay at the price they should have retailed for.
Aero is past it and they Old Yeller'd it for an excellent reason.
If you do love your OS to look like it was last updated in 2005, I understand OSX and iOS look a great deal like Windows Vista these days.
> From what I have seen, pretty much everything Microsoft announced this week is already being done for years by Sony, Google and Apple,
as an API, no CPU time will be eaten if the API is not called.
and disk space? Really? It'll fit on all WP8.1 devices (according to the briefing, all WP8.1 devices will be upgraded and all version of Win10 will contain this API) including the Lumia 520 with its 512MB or RAM and 8GB of hard drive and you're worried about disk space....
OR desperately trying to find fault.
One or the other.
maybe I was channelling badly.
No, it looks to me like Paul Shirley is desperate to find something wrong with it.
Just like Gavin Clarke.