Re: wat

Hard to find any other reason why he'd be quite so catastrophically wrong.

Unless he got his operating instructions from Cupertino, I suppose.

Everything except (currently) the SIP client. Skype's not SIP. I don't know whether there's a SIP client for WP8 yet so I can't say "yes, it can do that". In theory, there's no reason why it shouldn't.

Everything else is there including uPnP via PlayTo.

Probably not what you wanted to hear because obviously anything Windows is awful and unusable and for children (I always wondered how come it's easy enough for children and ALSO unusable) and crap and evil and sweats like Ballmer and doesn't have Instagram but, alas, true.

Re: Seriously?

More like "no one cares anymore. It's been done to death."

Re: Since You Asked

Tony,

Since "doing what it says on the tin" is pretty much the minimum level at which an item is reviewable (Sale of Goods Act, etc) shouldn't that be assigned a much lower mark than 70% or whatever it is that Reg Hardware currently pegs it at? Actually, isn't a number a rather odd way to go about things?

I'd really rather see nothing at all given for an unremarkable device, one star (or perhaps, one vulture?) to an item which has one distinctive selling point placing it above the common and more stars or vultures for each extra distinguishing feature, provided it is executed well.

While I'm here, unless that iPhone5 review was a troll (in which case, well done) I'd really rather not see four pages of somebody explaining how a tech item is a beautiful lustrous fetish that they want to have sex with unless it's a sex-toy. Not a phone. I realize this is a specialist site but not that specialist.

And finally, I wanted to point out the comprehensiveness and balanced nature of Andrew Orlowski's review of the Lumia 920. Good points, bad points, gimmicks, features and comparisons all right there. Well done.

on the other hand...

if you license breeding to "desirables", what you get is a production of good little drones who will sit in your call centres, buy your consumer tat, watch EastEnders and never have a single original thought. Be honest, those are the people you'd give licenses to, right? The ones who support and enforce the status quo?

I say, the ones who manage to survive and thrive without becoming bit-parts in a 1984 Apple ad are the ones we want. The ones who are smart enough to work the system instead of be consumed by it. The ones who choose not to conform. The ones who can still think, instead of just regurgitate Paul Dacre's foul opinions on the Register's comment boards.

Microsoft don't make phones, you absolute cretin.

Re: More fake statistics paid by Microsoft

convicted monopolists

O RLY?

Google's Search Engine market share is roughly equivalent to Windows' desktop market share. Apple's share of, for example, the mp3 player market is somewhere similar. If you think monopolies are illegal, you really need to do some research.

By the way, Microsoft are not a "convicted monopolist". They were convicted of attempting to leverage a (fully legal) monopoly into browser market share. Rightly or wrongly (especially given that others now do exactly the same) is not the issue.

But let's look at Google logins for YouTube and the prioritisation of Google+ search results, shall we? Do you call that attempting to leverage a monopoly into another sphere? I do. But doubtless, you see nothing wrong with that, just as you see nothing wrong with monopolists that you happen to like.

MS-bashing is super-trendy here on the Reg - it shows your leet hardcore credentials, I suppose. Ir's also pretty damn stupid but since I've said that, let's just sit back and watch those downvotes roll in.

Re: Engaging comic-book-guy mode....

Wow.

That was fascinating.

Thanks.

Re: What a mess.

First we lost multi-tasking.

Then we lost interest.

Except that none of these are gone except your interest, which is evidently the interest of somebody too stupid to click "Desktop".

Man. I wouldn't like to be the guy that hired you. It beats me how you manage to open this website.

Re: What a mess.

Even the charms bar search function appears to be defective...gives you different results depending if your are in an application or not.

These, oh editors and writers, are the new breed of Power Users of the Register. People too fucking stupid to understand what context-based search is.

This is your market.

Write articles which says Microsoft fails at everything all the time so that they will be happy and click your ads!

Oh wait. You already do.

Re: Institutional Arrogance.......

The "we're not telling you who made our Climate policy" kerfuffle aside, I disagree.

Newsnight pulled a report based on not enough evidence. Instant shitstorm. Newsnight then ran a report with a similar amount of evidence (ie, allegation only) which turned out to be incorrect (as, until a courtroom gets to hear it, the Savile report still may) and lo! Instant shitstorm.

You'd almost think that maybe other media had some kind of reason to want the BBC to look bad....

Re: Metro in business? Why?

I realize from the coat icon that you're kidding but that has to be the most retarded comment I've ever seen, even if you include Barry Shitpeas and BIG DUMB GUY.

Win8 has a desktop and can do all of Win7's desktop things.

Re: App control?

On 7.5, all apps are sandboxed and must ask APIs for access to things such as internet connectivity, your location, your address book, etc.

All apps must (in order to be approved for the app store) ask clearly for each permission they require (you have to actually set sliders) or they're simply not available.

I was expecting to find apps sending my data all over the place; it was actually something of a shock to find that this doesn't happen. The differentiation on privacy is something MS have pushed quite hard.

Re: Awesome!

I really hate to put a downer on the hatefest, but I doubt if this is intended for the home. More likely, it's for venues that rent huge screens to display to paying audiences or attract audiences to raise revenues, like pubs, who already pay more.

Not exactly lovely fluffy tech but it's never going to get anywhere your telly.

Re: There are no 'killer' Windows applications any more

Except for, er every last one of the games.

Re: Contempt yet?

"I’m at a loss that a company such as Apple would do this."

Imaginary scenarios

1. Assume MS had not bothered with a Windows Store.

Commentards: THE PROBLEM IS PACKAGE MANAGEMENT AND THUS WINDOWS IN INSECURE

2. Microsoft implements Windows Store, allows devs to submit Metro and Desktop applications or distribute on the web/via media as they so choose

Commentards: LOL MS HAVE NO APPS THIS PLATFORM IS BAD LOL FAIL LOLZ0RZ

3. Microsoft only allows distribution via Windows Store

Commentards: LOCKED DOWN OH MY GOD THIS IS TERRIBLE WALLED GARDEN THEY HAVE KILLED EVERYTHING

4. Microsoft implements Secure Boot as a security measure

Commentards: OH MY GOD THEY'RE KILLING LINUX THOSE FUCKERS EVIL EVIL EVIL

5. Microsoft does not bother with Secure Boot

Commentards: WINDOWS IS INSECURE YOU CAN LOAD BOOTKITS LOL FAIL

Really, it doesn't matter what MS do. Register commentards will hate it, whatever it is. They could announce that Windows 9 will be a linux window manager and all their software will be GPL2 and run only *nix and OSX, it wouldn't matter. It makes absolutely no difference whether a feature or action by MS is positive or negative because the Reg commentards will ALWAYS say it's negative.

I only load the comments on MS articles to feel smug about knowing in advance exactly what I'm going to read these days.

Re: ActiveX Comes to mind

Yeah, this is just Outlook Express all over again. Or alternatively

YOU HAVE NO FUCKING IDEA WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, DO YOU?

Re: Citation provided

@flocke - great. You link to three textbook chapters of irrelevant wank drawing an unrelated conclusion.

Go you.

And the guy with the 'mate' on his third 610... fake anecdote levels are hitting critical, I'm afraid.

Re: Citation provided

Ah, the Shitpeas Gambit. Anyone who does not parrot your retarded opinion is paid by a company that competes with the company that you wank off every night.

"I’m at a loss that a company such as Apple would do this."

I'm not.

Re: Bit harsh

Are you Bear Grylls?

Re: Sharks for sale

That (the shark) may very well be the coolest thing ever.

Re: While I think that to some extent users are suffering from download fatigue in

To be fair (and I speak as a long-term Firefox user) FF has been getting worse for a couple of years now.

That will also be "costing" them downloads.

First on Windows Mobile and Symbian actually, but don;t let that slow you down. Keep the hate coming. One day, you'll be right if only through statistics.

Re: "Microsoft actually writes fantastic software."

I don't think there's there any real argument that Visual Studio is absolutely hands-down the single best programmer's IDE in existence right now.

You could call "Eclipse" but if you do I'm afraid I'll be laughing too hard to reply.

Re: Need a correction

To be fair, from a hardware point of view, it was an excellent device; compare a Zune HD to an iPod Touch on any measure at all (except "is it for sale in Dixons") and the Touch looks like a PoS with bad sound and a stupid interface and rightly so.

It was just way too late and not marketed at all.

Re: When will they get real

Microsucks

300 BILLION Euro

I see they're teaching IT in primary schools now.

Re: let me get this straight

Gavin, why don't you just write

ZOMG THE WORLD IS ENDING MICROSHAFT IS KILLING LINUX BECAUSE STEVE BALLMER IS A FAT DEMON WHO SWEATS AND THEY WILL EAT YOUR CAT BTW WINDOWS 8 SUCKS SWEATY BALLMER BALLS AND SO DOES EVERYHTHING ELSE THEY EVER MAKE EXCEPT WHERE IT'S BRILLIANTLY EVIL EHRMERGERD

You know you want to.

It's pretty much everything you've written for eighteen months.