> Well there's the Wileyfox phones
And the OnePlus phones. Sales of those alone probably outnumbered the home-rooting crowd.
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> Well there's the Wileyfox phones
And the OnePlus phones. Sales of those alone probably outnumbered the home-rooting crowd.
> 3% have a particular custom firmware
Which, in the majority of cases, was factory-installed. I did specify "by their owners".
I quite like the idea.
In particular, I'm interested in it from the security point of view. While WP/M/Whatever is closed source, the baseband is available and so is the "BIOS" layer meaning it should be possible to interpose something that acts like the Blackphone firmware and treats the baseband as a hostile router.
This has obvious benefits in terms of security.
As a percentage of Android phones, how many have been been rooted and modded by their owners?
0.01%? 0.02%? It's not exactly a common hobby.
> The only reason this became an "incident" is because they GOT CAUGHT.
Except that they didn't. They pulled the patch themselves when there were no reports of it doing anything weird and when asked why, told people why.
If they'd "GOT CAUGHT" then the usual Win10 Hate Brigade would have been trumpeting this for the last week. They weren't.
Yeah, no. That's not how wifi sense works at all.
You're reaching now.
> along with a number of commentards, I think that this was deliberate.
Of course you do. This surprises absolutely nobody.
Should anyone be surprised that you specifically are dumb or obsessed enough to think a company (any company at all) would deliberately set out to alter settings so that at some point in the future they might possibly be able to steal data from an apparently completely random and quite small subset of upgraders, then withdraw the update that could (in a handful of cases) cause the settings changes (that might or might not allow data to be stolen depending on applications used, presence of firewalls, whether the machine was even used or not), admit that they did it (claiming incompetence) and turn all the settings back again?
Given your posting history, I think not.
Seriously, you need to get out more. You're making David Icke look rational.
> And, of course, they say, in big letters, "This program wants to access your System Restore data to return to your old settings. Please click here to approve this"...
In your world, I suppose they should say "this operating system needs to access your computer's memory. Please click to approve this" about 8 billion times per microsecond.
Seriously? You object to the system using System Restore to restore your system? Or you're just being a bloody idiot? Which is it?
you can install Mint anyway should you wish to. Just hit DEL at startup and make sure that SecureBoot is switched off.
Chemist - it's becoming less and less believable as time goes by.
To start with, he was fairly low key and got upvoted a lot. Now, not so much.
JJ has been surreptitiously mocking the usual linux trolls with this stuff for a while now.
> Just install the Truecaller app.
No. I am not prepared to hand my address book to a third-party.
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> HMRC are too busy hassling IT contractors
In the spirit of off-topic irony, HMRC do not employ any IT contractors. Directly. They use CapGemini instead and CapGemini use literally hundreds of IT contractors to do work for HMRC*. Those contractors are well aware of HMRC's nefarious ambitions in their direction however, and are unlikely to just sit there and take it.
*Disclosure - I am currently one of them.
For once, we agree completely.
> Make it talk powerline Ethernet too
Oh shit, now 34 pretend radio HAMs will come along and hate at you.
> Isn't that the what's commonly called the police force?
No, because there isn't a Police Force. There are many police forces with separate geographical boundaries and locations. This is a kind of whole country FBI-type thing. It's new. And probably unnecessary.
They'll stop it alright.
Assume MS do make a Surface Phone with an x86 chip in it. Win10 Desktop doesn't have a telephony stack so it won't run that. It'll run an x86 compiled version of Win10 Mobile which won't have a desktop and will only run stuff you install from the Windows Store.
Now, you might well get Win32 aspplications packaged and sandboxed as Store Apps (in fact, that's clearly the direction they're going in). DuOS might even be one of them although I doubt they'd get it past Redmond's approval system.
However, you really think a phone OS aimed at corporates with an emphasis on security is going to allow an application to download and install other applications from the Amazon app store, especially given the lax security of Android apps and tendency to demand access to absolutely everything?
It won't happen.
It uninstalled NOD32 on my test machine. That was irritating but it didn't complain when I reinstalled it myself.
No privacy settings were altered.
Unless you work for HP it's of no interest to you because you're not invited.
Or the "Hugely Pissed" but that probably would confuse the American who has to sign off on it.
It could be worse. I mean, there is scope for savings on this kind of thing even the holiest of holy cows.
By which I mean, why does each and every NHS Trust and each and every GP's surgery have its own IT infrastructure, support, purchasing, licensing etc etc? The reason the NHS is good value (and it is) is largely because of the Single Payer system for medical consumables. We don't have Pfizer ripping off each Trust individually for essential drugs, we make them offer a good price because of the size and exclusivity of the contract.
But we don't do that with IT suppliers. And we don't do that with hardware. And we don't do that with administration or all the other crap that gets in the way of patient care. We overspend by billions because it's done a stupid way in the name of wholly fake competition.
That needs stamping on.
Just bored with the name calling. It's pathetic.
Wait, hold on. I think I'm getting getting it - "Slurp" is "Microslurp" right? Instead of Microsoft?
OH MY FUCKING GOD THAT'S HILARIOUS YOU ARE SO CLEVER
And "Winblows" is like "Windows" but you call it that because, right, it "blows"?
YOU ARE A GENIUS!
Oh wait, not genius. Cretin. That was it.
Grow the fuck up.
> But it can do two!
All TIFKAM apps are delivered windowed in Win10. It can do as many as you like (memory considerations aside. It seems to be lighter on memory than Win32 applications too though).
> Then it disappeared with TIFKAM.
No it didn't.
Security. Malware. Endless repeating notifications. Apps that demand access to everything for no reason (a good example here is Google Clock which is an alarm clock created by Google that claims it needs access to your wifi settings and contacts list - what the actual fuck?!?).
Apps that don't close. Apps that autorun. Opaque settings. Lag. Battery life. Is that enough for you?
This forum contains fanboys.
Agreed. I've just trialled a Blackphone 2 for a month. I love everything about it except Android.
What a horrible, wasteful, battery-burner of an OS.
Better a couple of months of Enterprise than no months of Enterprise.
For once, not a terrible idea.
For example, say you need Coded UI tests written. Your Build server will happily run them with Pro but you need Enterprise to code the damn things. Buy it for a couple of months, then let it lapse. That's actually useful.
It does. My company (at the time) were writing live software with .NET beta. I think back now and it seemed so easy but dear Kibo, it was clunky and badly unfinished.
Still. Not everything changes. Windows Forms still suck buttock.
> ...which will always be problematic in terms of trusting that server. So, what next? Blockchain...?
You'll rapidly run into size problems with a blockchain, of exactly the type that's causing issues in the BitCoin community right now.
> In short, PGP protects only one factor of comms, but there is much more to consider. Even making it easy to use will still give you only a fragment of what you need.
Moscow rules, old boy. You need a blind cut-out. In the cold war this was a person or a dead letter drop along with an entirely unrelated notification. Smiley's People uses a discarded cigarette packet containing a photo negative - carry no documents you cannot discard instantly without attracting notice - and yellow chalk elsewhere. Two unrelated elements.
The modern equivalent would be something along the lines of an anonymous single-use account with a provider both initial parties have agreed upon along with an entirely unrelated notification of significance only to the recipient. Something that indicates no connection between the two parties. Perhaps a comment or post on an open forum.
> In Bruce Schneier's blog, he references a study which basically says that PGP tools are still not suitable for general use for email encryption & authentication.
And I think that's where the OP is recommending that Google concentrate their efforts. The whole process is clunky at the moment. Surely somebody can come up with a user-friendly way?
A little harsh. I only mentioned it because so many of the "Windows 10 rapes my privacy" crowd are also enthusiastic recommenders of Android. You must have noticed this yourself.
I think what is necessary in Win10 is some clear explanation from Microsoft. What data is collected? In what form is it collected? Is it anonymized? If so, how? Is it stored? Is it stored in encrypted format? What do potential advertisers get to see if any? How long is data stored for? Exactly what's it used for?
The keystrokes thing, for example. Suppose they're using it to build a better Autocarrot and chucking away all personal details etc. Is that evil? Not especially, since you actually can opt out of that. On a system with all options set to "don't tell MS anything" some data still goes to MS and that's concerning because I can't, despite trying for days off and on, figure out exactly what it is. So transparency about that is an essential requirement.
In terms of packets though, it's a fuckload less than Android spews at Google or a Chrome session phones home with.
So the original point still stands.
How's Android working for you?
> privacy raping
you have absolutely no idea what you're whining about.
This article is about badness in installers used by end-users. It is not an OS advocacy article or an opportunity for you to be smug. Discuss the problem as it applies to end-users or fuck off.
But the real question is not about about the capabilities - vile as they are. It's about the fact that the Bill seeks to make knowledge of those capabilities illegal and therefore, there never can or will be discussion of them.
Nobody's going to take this one to the ECHR because it will be illegal for them to admit to knowing what they know.
> if the privacy issues on Win 10 PC are anything to go by, I would steer way clear of it if I had a requirement for professional grade communications.
The article said almost nothing at all about the Priv's security features or propensity for data-leakage. All we know is that it's running BB apps on the horrendously leaky Android.
I would have appreciated more information.
DISCLAIMER - Blackphone 2 owner, which is a genuinely hardened Android. That the Reg hasn't reviewed. I wonder why not?
Because 73TB is reasonable.
> More trolling, dogged...
I pass no comment on the Reg. I'm still here, after all.
Ars Technica is often worth reading. Saying so doesn't mean that I'm saying anything else isn't worth reading.
> Win10 Enterprise does not have mandatory upgrades.
There, now you can downvote a simple statement of fact again, fanboy.
Win10 Enterprise does not have mandatory upgrades.
Corporates who aren't switching off all telemetry are not worthy of the name.
If you're an admin and you leave all that userland stuff running, you should be fired. If you don't know how because "ew Windows 10 oh noez I'm never installing it the Register said it would steal my bank account details" then you're incompetent and you should be fired and sued.
Not "supporting multiple OS's is expensive" then.
Okay. That makes absolute sense.
> Beats the shit that's beaten into Microsoft software people "Make money at all cost! Make money at all cost!"
Oh, do you work for them?