Re: Removing support is the same as killing it.
> Thanks for pushing me into Java or Python and the LAMP stack.
That explains why you're so bitter.
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> Thanks for pushing me into Java or Python and the LAMP stack.
That explains why you're so bitter.
Try posting with a username, AC. Then you can use the Black Helicopters icon.
They removed Visual J++ because (I think it was still Sun at the time) threatened legal action over the non-standard JVM implementation.
Nobody missed it.
I honestly can't think of anything else.
I see no benefit in attempting to converse civilly with tinfoil hat wearers.
> Just as you get tooled up to develop on .net core MS will shift the goalposts.
Okay, I'm seeing this a lot. So answer me one question - WHY?
Why would they change the goalposts? Why would they piss off all the developers they're supporting by keeping the Framework as a subset of Core? Why do all that work on keeping people productive and then fuck 'em in the ear? For money? They'd lose money because that's less applications running on their systems and incentive to code for somebody else's.
And yes, linux implementations are still "their" systems because (as a previous commenter stated) they're aiming for linux on Azure. Nadella comes out of MS's "Server & Tools" business. He's the one who's department has been open-sourcing stuff and enabling linux on Azure, even before he got the CEO job. His department made record profits year after year by providing platforms and development tools. Nobody knows more about how to make money by keeping devs happy than Nadella (and his evil svengali, Scott Guthrie).
So again, WHY do you think MS would commit corporate self-harm by changing the goalposts? It makes no sense.
And don't even bother with the "past history" line. Nadella has exactly zero past history of fucking with developers.
> Not with their reputation and past actions.
So what they do doesn't matter. Nothing they do matters. Nothing they ever do in the future matters. Only what they did in the past that cannot be changed.
Tell me, how do you feel about Germans?
and I note that you haven't in fact named any other frameworks MS has axed.
Because there aren't any.
People like you make me ashamed of the F/OSS movement (and yes, I contribute).
OXML is indeed debatable but Nokia?
What the hell are you blaming Microsoft for with Nokia?
Oh, wait, no, let me guess - it's the usual tinfoil hat stupidity about Elop being a trojan horse who deliberately ruined Nokia so MS could buy their phone division, right? And presumably they also made that possible by using giant space-lizard mind control rays on the Nokia board of directors and they didn't really give Nokia any money at all, they actually STOLE all the money and Bill Gates is actually in the business of selling medical supplies.
You're one of those.
Okay. In that case, do us all a favour and fuck off.
GPL or nothing?
Is the Apache 2 variant they've used not good enough for you?
after past disappointments such as Silverlight
Name three others. Hell, name one other. Silverlight - supported through 2020 according to MS so hardly defunct - has become something of a meme for writers on the Register but assuming without knowledge that a myriad other frameworks have been dumped and then implying it in every damn article is... well, it's the kind of reporting I expect from the Daily Mail, not the Register.
You might as well ignore the story altogether and just parrot Eadon's endless lies about .NET being deprecated and dead if you're going to do that.
I expect it from commentards. Those that aren't simply hating on Microsoft for fashion reasons while reading their support scripts and claiming love for linux distros they have never used and wouldn't recognize if you installed it for them and painted the name on the monitor glass have very clear agendas (oh look, Hans 1 commented! calling it all lies, what a fucking shock) and great steaming biases they can't see past. I expect it from Gavin Clarke on the grounds that he's a cretin.
But proper tech journalists, one hopes, should know better.
(Some idiot will now go on about VB6 and somebody else will make a half-joke about FoxPro, neither of which are part of the .NET framework and are therefore irrelevant).
I see somebody here works for EE. Or O2. Or Vodafone.
(Three aren't usually so bad. And for the record, I'm on O2 who are exactly as bad).
Nah, just the usual thieving bastardy.
See, you can flog a 4G sub to a punter who can barely get 2G in his house and most of them won't even complain. On the rare occassion they notice their phone say "4G" (visiting London, probably) they'll be surprised but not angry because everyone is used to all telecommunications in the UK being a big bag of shit.
In the meantime, you make money. You could spend it on actually giving the customer what they paid for or you could just have your PR department make up some shit about lack of demand and keep on pocketing it. Guess which happens?
Same guy so just "Banks" covers all the bases.
well away from here being the best part.
The Single Market means your wife cannot refuse to trade with the EU.
> Might that not make you liable under the EU free trade/market regulations?
It appears it would indeed under the terms of the Single Market.
> If "micro" business has slept till now, and discover two weeks before there's a law they don't like, well, they deserve it.
The "becoming a data processor/holder" is pretty scary stuff for a small business, though. Especially if you sell through somebody like Amazon because they'll be holding all that information electronically and in a cloud which you cannot control.
I didn't get much in the way of presents so approximately none.
(And no, having a birthday close to Christmas doesn't mean you get more stuff. You just get more writing on the label).
He won't be two until March. None of this stuff is suitable :(
If it's as untested as he says, a) the number of false positives will be scary and b) a decent lawyer should be able to have any evidence based on it struck from evidence (barring Theresa May going even more She-Wolf of the SS and passing some bullshit law forbidding judges from striking shitty evidence).
Add in a reprise of that little wheeze where they can bang you up for 40 days without charge and it's a brilliant tool for teaching people with dissenting opinions a harsh lesson - how many students and protestors have been arrested, DNA-swabbed, photographed, fingerprinted and released without charge? Probably millions by now. Even better if you mutter "terrorism" and D-Notice the whole thing.
Actually BT Cellnet became mmO2 became O2.
Hutchison created Orange and sold it to France Telecom who then joined up with Deutsche Telekom (owners of T Mobile) to make EE.
So basically, your SIM won't work.
Well said. EE lie about their coverage, BT lie about their broadband speeds. It's a match made in marketing.
> There are plenty of clued up, smart, savvy people in the civil service
Kept on display in a disused basement toilet with a sign on the door saying "Beware of the Leopard"?
> Too hard and they'll circumvent you.
The unkindest cut of all.
If it's in a silo and doesn't talk (ever!) to the outside world, you probably shouldn't (except that sooner or later, the hardware will fail and then you're fucked).
But if you decide to leave a world-facing server using tech from 11 years ago, I would prefer not to trust you with my business.
Good grief, a relevant comment!
You should get with the program and start thinking of the children/freedom to watch what you want instead of these distracting facts.
> Break the Internet.
Which of Kim Kardashian's bodyparts will they use for that?
Your problem with the counter-petition is always going to be that it's supported by many of the very same killjoy lunatics who supported and created the original petition.
And the problem with the rule-by-women lobby is that you can't just campaign against stuff they like because they don't seem to like anything.
Except possibly cats.
ow ow ow
That Gavin Clarke, he's such a SOFTWARE EXPERT that he knows Microsoft are responsible for all power outages.
What a special boy he is.
A spokesperson from GCHQ says that with the UK youngsters needed to be motivated to take up subjects like maths and computer science.
Why, so that they can send messages you fuckers can't read?
NIMBYs don't catch buses. They have Range Rovers.
The Sansa Clip+ will will take 128GB cards cheerfully (see posts passim) so your cheapest upgrade is considerably less painful than ebay prices for an iPod Classic.
> Secure boot will make sure you don't test any *nix/*bsd on that hardware you bought.
No it won't, you troll. The only thing Secure Boot locks down to the point where you can't switch it off is the Surface RT and exactly which linux you'd put on that, I don't know. Same one as you put on your iPad, maybe.
FUD FUD FUD FUD.... ah, I remember the days when *nix activists hated FUD. Now some of them seem to use it as their primary weapon.
It's a Gavin Clarke article - you expect garbled bullshit.
Paul Thurrott (who actually understands a little about software - which is infinitely more than Our Gav) explains it as similar to the Media Center pack shipped alongside Win8. You can get the codecs but people who don't need them don't pay for them. It's pretty easy to imagine extending this to something like Active Directory or HyperV support.
Mind you, I'd certainly hope that a SKU which did not include those would be free.
Ir still needs the "continuity" feature for convertibles.
The former. Some of them are still doing it.
It's just marketing guff. A new OS release is an opportunity for Microsoft's "Hardware Partners" to flog boxes with certificates on to the unwary and ill-informed.
"Tuned" is usually no more than "we put a sticker on it". I very much doubt if that's changed.
(Yes trolls, shills et al, this is your opportunity to spread FUD about SecureBoot. Not that you need yet another one).
Oh, just stick with your beloved Apple and leave the tinfoil hat in the drawer.
Then you've never seen a tenant farmer. Land Barons with thousands of acres do pretty well out of a system designed to maintain small farms and rural habitats (see also France) but the way the UK has implemented it is much the same as the way the UK implements every other bloody thing that comes along - you can do very well at it if you happen to have a metric fuckload of money.
You're in East Anglia, right?
You can make a few quid (by "a few" I literally mean three or four) on meat but wool fetches less money than it costs to shear it so, swings and roundabouts.
Personally I think the Prof needs to amend his quotes for truth. This for example, is a fixed version -
"“The possibilities of bringing the Internet of Things to the countryside are worth £170,000 of public cash for my tenure,” enthuses the prof.
> How are people going to find their news stories?
Oh, I don't know. Maybe they could listen to the radio or watch TV or buy a fucking newspaper.
How do you think?
Interesting but barely used by a barely-used social network.
You know, I'd love to see somebody myspacify Facebook. That said, it should be obvious by now that Google+ won't be the one to do it.
None that they'll report.
> you never hear about 27 year old Windows bugs, do you?
Yes, you do. On these esteemed pages, no less. And they are without exception greeted by howls of derision from those who claim that Open Source == Completely Bug Free And Perfect (Except When Microsoft Open Sources Anything). And there are a depressing amount of those people.
I'm actually quite surprised that no mouth-breathing support neanderthal has missed the "X" and blamed Microsoft anyway.
Much as I despise VB, what you actually compile is CLR code which will run anywhere the .NET framework is installed. Same as C# or even F#.