2112 posts • joined 6 Nov 2009
"They know who they are" Given that all are at it..............
.............whether one is talking about Redmond, Cupertino or Mountain View (and their associate hardware producers) I think that any of the fanbois from the various sects would do well to keep a low profile on this one.
@EvilGav 1 RE:"It's not a like for like match anyway." No it is not, however I see that a ........
...............seriously sad person downvoted you for pointing out that which was clearly the case. Some saddos clearly do not like tackling facts. Upvote delivered in an attempt to even up the behaviour of the knobheads.
"At that rate, it will take Microsoft nearly 67 years to match the 40 billion apps"
That paragraph almost, but not quite, gives the impression that MS should be within handshake distance of matching Apple's download figures already. As a matter of interest how quickly do you think that MS should be able to catch up? Just so that we can see what your bench-mark of "success" would be.
"Nielsen's figures may be taken with a grain of salt"
RE: "Buy one with Windows 8 on it." I agree - I am about as likely to buy an RT tablet............
...................as I am to buy an iPad. For precisely the same reasons.
Re: "He's writing documentaion for phones that are NOT YET RELEASED."
Yes indeed he is, thus placing himself in the convenient position of rendering it impossible for all other contributors to the thread to evaluate for themselves the comparison he is making. In practice he is comparing an iPhone/iOS with some unknown Android phone loaded (he says) with jelly bean, likely skinned with some manufacturers UI etc etc. We have no means of validating or disputing his comparison from experience that some of us might have had with a known Android phone that has actually been released. Oh and there is no need to shout - just use italics as in "not yet released" - much pleasanter.
Re: "Pick up a Nexus 4 and tell us it's not better.......................
.................in every single area than an iPhone5, but at half the pricetag."
I entirely agree about the various positive qualities of the Nexus 4 but your comment concerning the price-tag is a major fail. Google are selling the Nexus in limited numbers at a near cost price (they have "only" shipped 400k units in the three months since release so as not to piss off their OEM partners). They could not (at current costs in today's market) possibly sell the Nexus at the current price as normal business practice. They are essentially selling the phone at cost to raise the profile of the latest iteration "jelly bean" - and as far as one can tell they are playing a blinder as far as generating attention is concerned. I have rarely if ever seen so much coverage for a non-Cupertino device in the media (rivalled only by the attention that the SGIII has generated - we can expect a writ from Apple any time now).
Re: "Bin Laden promoted hate and aggression, it was a perfectly valid juxtapostition"
Only if we forget the being guilty of mass murder bit.
"Sinofsky preaching success, it akin to Bin Laden preaching pacifism."
In addition of course to the implicit comparison of Redmond with Al-Qaeda. Ever thought of improving your postings by toning down the hyperbole? Unless of course you actually do believe that Redmond's anti-trust violations can be compared to 9/11?
Re: The Future but not as you knew it
For one terrifying moment after reading your post I felt that I could almost understand Martian.
@dogged RE: "What tinfoil-hatted excuse for a reason do you offer, AC?"
He has none to offer - entirely standard for that type of anti-MS post. Of course there are many things we can criticise that company for, by definition. However, that type of posting is typical of the gold card members of the Anti-Microsoft Choral Howling Society, end of. The FTC are so obviously not Redmond's friends that one wonders why he/she/it bothered to post that.
@mad_dr Re: "Further details emerge": Highly entertaining. However, on a practical note....
...........whatever Apple expected to be able to
con their customers for charge their customers it is highly unlikely that the thieves would be able to fence their ill gotten gains for more than 10 - 15% of the notional retail value. They would be very lucky to get more than 100k english for that lot, max.
I think that these (often very funny) "lyrical confusions" are driven by both the............
...........the artist's endeavours to fit the lyrics to the musical focrm the producer wants and/or the artist's own idiosyncratic take as far as pronunciation goes. The Nat King Cole classic "Mona Lisa" contains the following lines:
"Are you warm, are you real, mona lisa?
Or just a cold and lonely lovely work of art? "
If you listen to it it sounds for all the world as if he sung "are you warm are you rill mona lisa?" which does sound a touch peculiar. Oh, Happy New Year everyone!
"It's actually individuals whose rights are being eroded,............
.................. along with their freedom to take their creativity to a digital marketplace - and it's individuals who are being punished."
Indeed Andrew. It is precisely that that I find highly ironic. We see time after time postings that make it clear the the person concerned thinks that Micro$BastardSoft is the biggest danger we face. That company (as we all know from painful experience) are scarcely Sunday-school boys and girls but the utter obsession of those posters to the exclusion of all else is about as stupid as it is possible to be. The issues of privacy, freedom of speech and a genuine free-market such that the buggers cannot screw us over are rather more important than which individual company we hate the most. Anyone who believes that any example of "BigCorp" is worth their "loyalty" is deluding themselves.
Perhaps realising that there are times of day and places where.............
.............your fashionable accessory should not be on display might be a smart move (advice which of course applies to all property that is easy for thieves to turn over).
@Sean Timarco Baggaley Re: "Shark. Jumped." I am fairly suprised that an old Reg hand......
......like you would react to a very obvious wind-up in such a fashion. This kind of article is a speciality of El Reg - we all know that don't we? It was very clearly irresistible for a entirely standard Reg piss-take, I am surprised that en experienced member like yourself allowed this to get to you.
"angular design with floor-to-ceiling windows built into the hull."
Installed by means of Boot Camp one assumes.
I apologise for hitching my wagon quite so shamelessly to the first post but I...........
..............thought that those contributing to the thread would like to know that Ars Technica are reporting that Cupertino appear to be rowing backwards at high speed. I shall say no more - information only.
". I was shocked to find that it is still running Android 2.3." Let me see now, you...........
......... are an "advanced user" (as the PR boys put it) and know enough to be able to "root and rom" a device yet you managed to buy that phone without being aware of which iteration of Android it was running? You were "shocked"? Hmm, for some reason I detect a certain aroma coming off of your posting.
Re: Resources "Yet another non-related reply to the first comment from LarsG" Had you......
.........not posted that as an AC I might have had more sympathy for your point. Or was your posting some form of highly advance post-modernist irony that I am intellectually unequipped to appreciate?
@Eadon Re: "Microsoft the patent troll - and it's slave, Nokia" Since anybody with more......
............than two neurones firing at the same time is perfectly well aware that Nokia got itself into the shit well before the "sweaty, chair-throwing, fat bastard's bum-boy, Elop" (as he is so affectionately and objectively known amongst the gold card members of the Anti-Micro$oft Choral Howling Society) came anywhere near the Finnish company one would have thought you had better things to do than post that kind of crap. Nokia is not any kind of patent troll - they have never displayed the kind of behaviour that Cupertino have over the past two years, however you feel about the fact that they are now allied with Redmond.
One does get the feeling that Apple's strategy is beginning to unravel.
Ars Technica is also covering it:
If indeed it is the case that "pinch to zoom", "tap to zoom" are looking dodgy and given that "the patent office ruled in October that the '381 patent ("rubber banding" or "bounce back" feature) should never have issued." then it does look as if Cupertino's attempts to plant "anti-competitor mines" over the whole of the mobile device market is beginning to come apart at the seams. It now looks certain that their attempts to lock Samsung out of the US market are doomed to failure and it is now increasingly likely that their entire approach is, at last, coming under scrutiny by the American authorities. If these key patents are invalidated then Cupertino are going to have to think again. A modest suggestion from yours truly, concentrate on what you have been good at - making kit that your very loyal customers clearly like very much. I personally do not own one single piece of Apple hardware but I doubt that that keeps them awake at nights. However, I know that an awful lot of folks do like what Apple produce - they should concentrate on doing just that.
"wouldn't be surprised to learn that there's more than a little back-room wrangling going on."
I would not be at all surprised if Cupertino decided to settle with Samsung for rather less than the one billion that that joke of a jury awarded them. Despite what a particular section of their supporters might hope or believe Judge Koh cannot in fact stop Samsung appealing the case higher if they choose to do so. That might very well have considerable consequences as I am quite sure Apple's lawyers have already advised their clients. The issue is whether Cupertino have the brains to sweeten the pot sufficiently in any negotiations that may, or may not, be going on. Koh's refusal to allow Apple to use the judgement to shut Samsung out of the US market is significant and more of a defeat for Apple and SJ's "nuclear war strategy" than might be obvious at first reading. It is now simply a matter of bickering over how much loose change Apple will be able to boast that they got as a result of that fatuous trial. The judge in this instance realised that she could not support Apple's underlying strategy - an embargo against Samsung's products.
@CountZero Re: "May contain Comic Sans related humour" Sorry, I did not get........
................the point of that joke.*
*All right, I know I should be ashamed of that pun, I'll get my coat.
@Rampant Spaniel RE: "This is what drives me nuts................
..........That is an outright admission the law was wrong and the convictions were unsound so why not automatically quash them all?"
I am very much afraid that there is as usual dirty politics involved. The current leadership of the Tory party are very worried by the gains being made by UKIP. That party has a very homophobic political line and is making all the running in that area. In addition the current Conservative parliamentary party also has a strong anti-gay lobby and they are also coming under considerable pressure from a powerful and very reactionary lobby within their own Tory constituency parties. It is highly unlikely that the present government under Cameron would engage in a mass expunging of these convictions against gay males pre-1967 because their own backwoodsmen within and without parliament would go apeshit and the Tories would leak even more votes to UKIP.
@AC 00.35 GMT RE "Foxy boy"
If it's "!foxy boys" you are after I suggest you visit your local all male bathhouse - something tells me that you are definitely not my type.
@James O'Shea "Yes, there really was a shoot-out in a Wallyworld parking lot..."
Good grief - there I was thinking that a car sticker I had seen "honk if you're reloading" was simply a somewhat macabre joke!
"She was lucky to be tasered, I'd have punched her in the face"
Funny thing you know but upon reading your comment I suddenly experienced a powerful urge to treat you to 50,000 volts for some reason - can't think why.
@Tom 35 RE "How is this copying Apple's playbook?........
.............Apple don't make any of the parts found in their stuff. Apples extra value comes from controlling the content that comes after they sell the phone............"
I agree entirely. There is a very significant difference between Cupertino's model and what Sammy are doing. This "they are all copying Apple" meme is lazy thinking. Indeed I would go further in saying that Apple's rivals in the market-place are these days trying find a way of challenging Cupertino that does not involve simply copying them because it has dawned on them that that will not work. Look at the way Samsung has pursued the "if there is a niche (hardware-wise) we will fill it" - that is definitely not Apple's style yet that is how the original "Galaxy Note" came into being. There were plenty laughing then when Sammy launched that "monster", they are not laughing now, hmm?
"Are we all becoming fanboys? If you broaden the term...................
...................beyond those who favour Apple products".
Err.. as far as I can recall the term "fanboi" or "fanboy" referred to any and all who were
psychopathically obsessed with excessively keen on something. It has only been relatively recently that I have seen the word used to specifically refer to the keenest amongst Apple's customers. There are "fanboys" everywhere - you only have to look at any thread involving a product from one of the majors and you will see plenty of examples of slanging matches between the various denominations. "Fanboi is as fanboi does" if I may be permitted to paraphrase my dear old gran in this context.
While I would agree in principle that the decline in the.............
...........centrality of Windows in the modern computing world is a positive development I wonder how many here have thought of the implications with regard to what comes next. Anyone actually happy with the prospect of Mountain View and/or Cupertino controlling the market is not actually thinking things through. Indeed it could get worse if "the big three" in their joint bid for Kodak's patents are edging towards a "peace settlement". Such a settlement (if it came) would be on terms that suited the three of them, not me and thee. They would in practice be very happy to "divide the city and their rackets" in the manner of three Mafia dons wanting to avoid a gang war and the mutual attrition and bloodshed that goes with one. We are seeing a major paradigm shift within computing systems, that much we can agree on and it is highly likely that the conventional control that Redmond has had is on the wane. However, I am not at all sanguine about what comes next.
Re: "AC, because, well, I work for a little known company that exports it's tax"
I am often somewhat sarky about AC postings - however in your situation I entirely understand!
@tonysmith RE:"China and Pakistan are very close as are the people "
I am sure that Pakistan values its relationship to China such that this would not have been anything that one would describe as "officially sponsored" and indeed there is as you point out a pretty cordial relationship between to two populations. However, Pakistan does have its own wealthy middle and upper/middle class with their spoiled brats just like in the West. That section of Pakistani "yoof" are heavily influenced in their use of English by both the British educational influence and the influence of American English. The style that some have referred to could well have come from a group youngsters from Islamabad or wherever within Pakistan. Though of course it could equally well be a bunch of "kiddie-hackers" from any part of the English speaking Western world on the basis of the same "textual analysis". :)
@DavCrav RE: "AC? Nice touch with the whole having a go at me on an online forum........
.............in a thread about defamation.
Ouch! All I can say is you hit that one right in the bull.
Re: "A threat of legal action where lies are concerned is justified"
Morally speaking I would agree with that and in the UK you could certainly sue on that basis. However, although IANL I seem to remember that in the US you have to be able to prove malicious intent before you can successfully sue someone for slander/libel, that which we in the UK would call "malicious libel/slander"*. What appears to be different in this case is local state law with regard to the specific issue of falsely accusing someone of a criminal offence.
*Which is seen here as an accusation so serious that Judges have directed the jury to use the criminal burden of proof, "beyond reasonable doubt", rather than the civil law evaluation of "balance of probability".
Re: "Does it run whisper quiet - thought not." I take your point about it not being an.........
...............all-in-one. However, it most certainly does run whisper quiet because in common with many others who get pleasure from building their own I made a point of learning to do it properly rather than just throwing it together.
RE "Anyway are there any like-for-like non-Apple equivalents?"
Well if you are interested in both aesthetics, punch and good value for money you can build one yourself (there are some very well designed "bespoke" cases out there if you know where to look, ours is in one of Lian Li's whole body aluminium offerings) and you can definitely obtain and install components at least as good or better for anything up to forty percent cheaper than Apple charge (often for exactly the same brand and quality). Then you simply install the os of your choice, whether it's Windows, Linux (we have both on dual boot) or OSX. Oh, hang on a moment, Cupertino won't allow that will they? You guys actually have to hack the os in order to install it, even if it is a wholly genuine paid for version. Pity that, oh well, carry on paying for your "designer hardware".
Re: " that has nothing to do with electronic noise issues."
As far as the motivations of the FAA are concerned you are in all likelihood right. However, I am obliged to (partially) take issue with another point in the article inasmuch than I do not see that the issue of possible interference from electronic devices can be regarded as solely the result of poor shielding on those pieces of kit. If the onboard control systems are so poorly shielded that there is in reality a quantifiable risk that I could bring down a Boeing 747 with my Desire Z then I have to say that the manufacturers of the aircraft concerned and their electronics suppliers also have a responsibility. Indeed if it that shielding is of such mediocre quality that we are potentially at risk I think we should be very worried already - let alone when the guy in the seat next to us is permitted to talk (very loudly and annoyingly) to his office/wife/misstress on his latest shiny.
Re: " I knew I should have used the Joke Alert icon."
I thought it was amusing at any rate. However, I think that a "satire alert" icon might be the thing. Your bon mot was after all rather more satire than an outright joke and I have notice that a certain percentage of our fellow earthlings are satire-blind.
I am not at all sure that the prices in the over sixty inches category are going to drop as fast and to as low a level (per unit area of display) as we have seen hitherto in the TV market. The constraint IMO is getting a telly like that into the average family living room. The percentage of the population that have the room for an eighty inch telly has to be a lot less than that we would consider as mass market. Whatever "the next new thing" may be in TVs, my crystal ball says that it will sell best in the fifty to sixty inch section of the market. Displays as big as are being referred in this article are not going to be bought by world+wife+dog regardless of how high the display resolution is.
@Kristian Walsh "Both sides of this argument are not above paying bloggers and journalists"
You appear to have attracted both up and down votes. Clearly you have posted common sense.
Yet another example of BigCorp arrogance.
Being required to obey the law is "unwarranted government interference". The "big two" better remember the concepts "anti-trust violation" and "abuse of market position" because if they do not someone is sooner or later going to remind them. Happily the appeals court judgement was without dissent - it is highly unlikely that the Supremes would overturn it without Verizon having a very good case for arguing that the court had unanimously misinterpreted the law.
@Lee Dowling Re: "But what about muh socialism?"
Erudite old chap, every word pure gold.
@I ain't Sparticus "They got the rather more thigh-slapping....."
I think that even if the bride and groom took the mistake in good part I would have paid good money to see the expression on the faces of the respective mothers in law!
@LarsG Re: "An indirect form of child abuse.........." When I was a very little chap..........
.......(we are talking very late fifties, very early sixties here), one of my playmates was a young lad from a family whose surname was "Hood" - I do not think that you will have to strain yourself to guess what forename those idiots gave him. Imagine, growing up and attending school when every time you went out into the schoolyard there was a mass chorus of "Robin Hood, Robin Hood, riding through the glen, Robin Hood, Robin Hood and his band of men."* Some people should be banned from reproducing themselves.
*For the (much) younger amongst us there was a very popular series about the famous outlaw on the telly in the early sixties starring an actor called Richard Greene. It was at that time compulsory viewing on a Saturday evening (God help us all). What you can see in quotation marks above is a quote from the series' theme tune.
Re: "Windows 7 is actually NT 6.1, and Windows 8 is actually NT 6.2."
Please old chap, I realise what you were doing but, I beg you, do not encourage those misguided anoraks/trainspotters. :)
@AC 30th Nov 15.17 GMT " Why is it that when someone asks a question like this......
..............about a Windows/MS product........."
The reason is straightforward. Some of the MS critics on threads like this are classic "anti-fanboi tribalists" and their tactics are boringly repetitive, howls of "shill" "astroturfer" and "you are expletive crazy" each time and every time. *
Declaration: I have zero interest in buying any kind of Windows RT tablet regardless of who the producer is. I will not under any circumstances by any kind of pc that is a "walled garden" device - which is one reason why Old Nick will be complaining about the thermostat on His central heating system before I buy a Surface RT or an iPad.
@Phillip Lewis Re: "OMG! I have upvoted RICHTO - the is nigh I tell you!"
Well if we are in the confessional here I have to admit that I upvoted Barry Shitpeas about six weeks ago - how bad is that?
@AC 30th Nov 10.31 GMT "And don't forget the Full HD (1920x1080) screen"
Indeed. In fact (without commenting on any other aspect of the "Pro" until I have actually seen one) I would have to say that given that it has a HD screen and is running a current generation Core i5 I would regard 5hrs battery life as not too bad. I would not expect to see any major improvement as far as that is concerned with x86 tablets or ultrabooks until we get the Haswell chips some time at the back half of next year (if they actually can do what Intel is claiming of course).
@Tony Paulazzo "Surface Pro battery life half that of the RT - 4 to 5 hours"
What precisely did you expect? The RT runs on a Tegra 3 ARM SoC and the Pro is running on an Intel Core i5 cpu - it would be astonishing if it did not have half the battery life of the Surface RT.
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