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"this sales volume still represents year-on-year growth of nearly 58 per cent"
Only 58%? Tablet sales are clearly about to drop off a cliff. Analysts, don't you just love 'em? They make some (earlier) insanely optimistic prediction and when they later realise that these overblown expectations are unlikely to be fulfilled they start doing headless chicken impersonations howling "the sky's falling in". What a bunch of expletives deleted.
@Destroy All Monsters. I suggest old chap that you look up the concept.......-
........."rhetorical question" because that was what the lady was posing - hmm..?
@Salts "average end user was conned into an upgrade every 18 months because........
True. However, one little irony here is that it was Microsoft themselves that stopped that little "merry go round" with Win 7, hmm?
"Convicted Judge Briber" will do very nicely, thank you"
I love it!
I look forward to.......
........to the usual suspects explaining this "light touch" approach in the context of their autohowling whenever Redmond is mentioned. Can we look forward to screams of "Convicted Monopolist" perhaps?
@M Gale Re: Hang on, what?
I agree, at that price point I would describe it as upper mid-range at least. One can after all get a GS4 for about £450 and that is about the highest end conventional* Android phone currently available. A phone that costs a touch over three quarters of the latest Galaxy S is scarcely cheap. I would however slightly rephrase your comment by saying that as far as I am concerned, at that price "it better be good"!
*To distinguish the slot the GS4 occupies from the current crop of FEMPs. (Fucking Enormous Mobile Phones).
Thank you Richard for yet another contribution.
Informative and interesting as always.
@Destroy All Monsters. I am a little concerned old chap by your posting..
............. are you in any way related to "A Man From Mars" perhaps?
I saw a very entertaining poster in our IT dept this morning.
It purported to show a celebrity endorsement of Apple's maps app by Amelia Earhart.
I could usually understand the sense behind............
...........Mr Jobs' marketing strategies but this from the current management..............
"This appointment follows the departure of former retail boss John Browett, as well as Apple's decision to give a fitness expert called Jay Blahnik a job. The healthy living guru used to work for Nike and is thought to be on board to help Cupertino develop its near-mythical iWatch."
..........leaves me utterly mystified.
No Mr Oakley it is more like........
"But don't imagine for one moment that you can blatantly spill NATO secrets and then expect to be able to walk in and out of NATO borders without a shedload of trouble."
..............."Don't imagine for one moment that you can blatantly spill the beans on our political mendacity and still be able to go about your daily life without a shedload of trouble." There, fixed it for you - much more realistic.
@Don Jefe "this whole thing sucks."
@Don Jefe Re: I feel that this demonstrates beyond any doubt that....
Quite right. I was in a hurry and composed and posted too fast. I should of course said something along the lines of "both copyright and patent trolls etc...".
"There's nothing patentable about what adult film stars do."
Indeed, I don't think that even Cupertino would try and patent what adult film stars do, although it would give a whole new meaning to "you're holding it wrong"!
I feel that this demonstrates beyond any doubt that....
"Top copyright troll Prenda Law has been caught red-handed seeding torrenting sites with pornographic films in an effort to drum up business for its copyright lawyers."
.......such people are extortionists and that patent law should be changed to make such companies (who do not produce anything) liable to prosecution for conspiracy and racketeering. I go further and say that any company that actually is a producer who signs over their patents* to such companies in order to distance themselves from the approbrium that is increasingly inspired by such behaviour should be charged as coconspirators.
*We have seen several examples of that kind of tactic in the last year or so.
@stuartnz Funnily enough I was just about to ask the same question, ie are we talking....
.......US or Global? The US is of course home turf for Apple and Samsung only began to make serious headway in the American smartphone market with the GS2. Apple had already seriously established themselves at the start of the smartphone era "over there", most particularly with the release of the iPhone 3 and 3S and they have always quite deliberately as a company focused purely on well-heeled high end customers . It would be equally valid to compare their respective sales globally whilst ignoring the US. Both approaches are ridiculous and reveal the inability of some American analysts to recognise that there is a whole world out there beyond the US borders. That however should not surprise us from a country where only about 5% of its citizens have a current passport.
Can we call him a.........
..............misadventure capitalist now?
@DougS Re: "Got to hand it to Microsoft Research"
You really have to be careful old chap. Saying something complimentary about M$-DemonBastardLordsofDarkness is not allowed round here. The fact that MS-Research has been a source of genuine innovation for the last twenty to thirty years or so will not prevent you from getting hosed.
Re: mobile TV's "...icon because I am a grumpy old fart"
As one grumpy old fart to another I have to say that I entirely agree. "Sad Face" to express solidarity you understand!
Ah , I see........
Apple has said that the government's remedy is "absurdly broad, invasive, vague, draconian and punitive".
........Just like their patent claims then.
""Vulture South lacks a Windows Phone with which to test the app, which may be a good thing"
Let me see now, Blighty's leading tech journal practically boasts about not having access to a mob which would enable them to check this story for themselves. Sorry guys, that is not precisely impressive.
Re: Good fortune smiles upon me.
I have just tried it on my Lumia 820. It fails to play anything at all. Someone is taking the piss and (for once) I do not think it is Redmond.
I have been wanting to get this off my chest for years.
My lady and I loved B7. However, the way they chose to end it with Avon killing Blake believing he had betrayed them frakked us off so much that I cannot begin to describe how we felt about that grotesque piece of piss-taking by those responsible for the series. I hope they rot in.............ahem, excuse me but that really got up our noses.
This is simply good strategic business sense on their part.
"Perhaps worried that the sun could set on its long-running relationship with the iPad giant, the Taiwanese multinational will decide by the end of the year whether to move into the solar energy market."
Indeed it is a very old conundrum. At one stage in the sixties the then Hungarian government had a very thriviving trade with West Germany amounting to (if memory serves) about 35% or so of their import/export trade. They chose quite deliberately to diversify for exactly the same reasons as Foxcon may be diversifying now. It makes sense - your best buddy now may "go off with somebody else" leaving you high and dry. I do not for one moment believe that Foxcon are going to bail on Apple any time soon but they would be fools not to reduce their exposure to one company whoever that company might be.
@Trygve Henriksen Re:"Your punishment will therefore be to watch this video...."
Far too kind old chap. He should be forced to eat rakfisk and lutefisk every day for a month. As to the two written forms of the language I can only say that having seen what he has done with Bokmål I shudder to think what crimes he would commit against Nynorsk.
@Vociferous Re: "Hold øynene av våre premie, Tim Cook" I do beg your pardon?
"'I'm guessing something was lost in google translation." Indeed, either that or my sense of humour needs an upgrade!
"Hold øynene av våre premie, Tim Cook" I do beg your pardon?
"Keep your eyes off our prize, Tim Cook"? Oh and no, having lived here since 98 I did not need to use Google translate for that. I realise that I may have completely missed the point of something seriously witty from El Reg's subbies but if I have could someone explain it to me please? Otherwise I will have to assume that Vulture Central is placing too much trust in Mountain View's translations.
"Interesting is it not to note such examples of bosses..............
...................who confirm the widespread suspicion that sociopaths appear to have no problem climbing the greasy pole of promotion. Modern capitalism - don't you just love it? For what it is worth I don't think even his mother could love him.
Sorry Barry you cannot get away with that one. I have seen any number of articles in publications from both sides of the pond concerning WP8's sales figures and they all have made precisely that point.
Re: Let's put this social positivity theorem to the test...
"Wanna bet that wouldn't get me any downvotes hereabouts?"
Given the nature of our little club here at El Reg you would probably be heavily upvoted for satire given that nobody would believe you could possibly be serious.
@ilmari Indeed, at about £500 (including VAT) it is pitched at the high end of the market......
.......depending of course on the hardware. I am a Windows user from way back when but I am still very interested in what Canonical may come up with. I do not understand the sneering we are seeing amongst some of the Vanguard of the Commentariat (well I do understand what's going on here but if I expressed my opinion of it I might actually get modded - how embarrassing would that be here at the Wild, Wild West of Vulture Central). If they produce a high end mob that can function both as a phone and as a desktop (when docked)* then yours truly will certainly be willing to pony up.
Of course this patent application was accompanied by........
....a working prototype*. No? Well there's a surprise.
*A particular bugbear of mine with regard to the current fucked up state of hardware patent laws.
"May the best chip – or chips – win."
Fascinating developments. Those who have recently been proclaiming the death of Moore's Law may have to think again.
Disproportionate? Are you serious? Do us all a favour and vanish making short sharp jerking motions.
Let me see now, his "logic" would imply that.........
............if you prefer kit from Google/Samsung you are by his definition left-wing and if you prefer kit from Apple/Foxcon you are right-wing? The word "barking" does not even begin to cover it.
Re: They don't want iOS because it is Apple's baby, they don't want Android because its.........
I should also mention the following:
"unique, hybrid computing model, in which an Ubuntu phone will function as a full-fledged Linux PC when it's plugged into a keyboard and monitor."
Now that would make such a device very interesting from a personal user case point of view as far as I am concerned, very interesting indeed.
They don't want iOS because it is Apple's baby, they don't want Android because its.........
..........Google/Samsung's baby and they don't want Win Phone because its Microsoft's baby. Or rather they want something that will compete will all of the above without them having to do fuck all to achieve this. Furthermore it would be a lot more convincing if the US telecoms were not amongst the keenest on earth to control the market according to their own interests and amongst the most unscrupulous when it comes to how they go about achieving such goals.
*Let me make quite clear that I am in no way hostile to Ubuntu phones (or mobs based on any other variant of Linux), indeed I wish them (wholly sincerely) the very best of luck. It is the attitude of the "service providers" I am referring to.
"ITunes is awful....."
You put up with a phone where the major media handling software stinks? On the grounds of what may I ask?
"I've seen Windows machines where you are better off wiping the drive and re-installing the OS than trying to get iTunes and its dog's-breakfast of co-installed applications to either behave or uninstall properly."
Yep, been there, done that (a long time ago) - never again.
Excellent - it is about time certain tossbags learnt the difference between..........
"Jurors start stretch in the cooler for Facebooking, Googling the accused"
.......an understandable desire to express their opinions and their obligations to civic society. In other words there are times when it is appropriate to shut your gob. It is no good banging on about how nobody takes any notice of us ordinary folk if the moment one of us is in this position they piss all over their responsibilities. The issue is exactly the same (in principle) as that idiot of a jury foreman in the Apple versus Samsung case who utterly ignored the oath he took as a juror.
Re: Divine Justice
"To be honest no real Star Wars fan would even recognise that there ever were any prequels, just like there was only one Matrix film."
My good lady and I remember with much nostalgia and great pleasure going to see the first Star Wars film when it was released in the late seventies. We were entranced (the special effects were for their time utterly amazing) and became major league fans enjoying the second and third films equally as much. You can imagine how much we looked forward to going to the cinema to see (many years later) the first of the three "prequal" films. We walked out after twenty minutes. Enough said.
@Don Jefe "the only people who...........are government types......-"
Government types? Sure they do - however have you failed to notice what the private sector are willing to get up to given the slightest opening? Improperly supervised power is the issue here regardless of whether it is in the private or the public sector. About time the free-market worshipers recognised that.
RE:"UK cops and spook agencies wrongly fingered five people.........."
Security authorities have been making this kind of fuck-up since Walsingham* was Elizabeth the First's "M". Are we really surprised? They do it again and again and use the same excuses each time. "You can't make an omelette without breaking eggs". In other words we are told that we have to except this particularly nasty example of "friendly fire" and if we do not accept this then their reply is "what is your problem, something to hide have we?"
Re: Contradictory reports "Verizon for example reports...."
Yes, entirely correct - but in the US. This report appears to be addressing the global market - although I still take it with a large pinch of salt.
Re: What is he taking??? He is referring to the fact that the OEMs are about.........
..........a year to eighteen months behind when it comes to producing on the mass market scale Win 8 (in other words x86) tablets and laptops. This is of course because they have an eighteen month to two year purchase/production cycle for the "bits" that make up their hardware products and they wanted to foist on the general public as much of their out of date hardware as they could before they actually started producing hardware equipped with touch-screens in genuinely mass market numbers. Whether not he is whistling in the dark as far as any success for these devices when they at last come on the market during the last third of 2013 remains to be seen.
Re: "... PRISM is one of America's success stories..........
........., it allows her to defend her people for (sic) the terrorists."
No, that is the claim they make - ie that they have prevented another 9/11. This claim is by definition impossible to test and/or validate. It reminds one of the old joke about a farmer who built an enormous wall with electrified fence on top and a huge moat at the bottom. When asked by another farmer why he had gone to such expense he replied that "it's to keep the elephants out". His mate replied "but we don't have any elephants round here Bill". "Quite right" said Bill "you can see what a great job my wall is doing."
"I guess what I'm saying is Thunderbolt was more a markettting failure than technological"
Agreed. It is of course not the first time - Betamax versus VHS comes to mind.
RE:"Handing all their users data straight over to the government............
...............without any objections whatsoever."
The sad thing is that one cannot rely on any part of the media to report these matters without having their own commercial and/or political agenda. Anyone who has read "Guardian Tech" in recent years will have noticed that they are regularly
bottom kissing very friendly to Cupertino (and many of their posters have raised questions concerning a possible commercial relationship with the fruity company). Their headline this morning would have given the ordinary punter the impression that it is largely Redmond who is cooperating with the NSA when we are (here at any rate) aware that this is far from the case.
They put this on their front page* - I have yet to see the same coverage of the major tech companies, "cooperation" being given the same prominence. I am not for one moment excusing MS' behaviour, just wondering who is pursuing what agenda.
*Normally very unusual for a tech piece at the Graun, unless it is a friendly piece of puff on behalf of you-know-who.
@kain preacher. Re: "..........I did not think that you could piss off.............."
Neither did I. However, he certainly managed it! I have to say that in the four years or so that I have posted here I cannot recall seeing such an example of "summary justice" before - just goes to show.
@Wade Burchette. Rubbish - what we have here is a hardware/formfactor......
.....paradigm shift that we are in the middle of and cannot yet, reliably, see the outlines of. Whether one likes it or not what the tablet devices from Apple/Foxconn and Google's OEMs have done is change what the ordinary punter expects as far as form-factor and price is concerned. The issue of whether Redmond is capable of catching up with this or not is another matter, however the suggestion that this situation is caused by Win 8 is arrant rubbish. It is in fact to the credit of both Mountain View and Cupertino that they have powered this change.Win 8 is Redmond's response to a trend set by the aforementioned - whether they will succeed in catching that train is another matter.
"America's web snooping doesn't derail cosy security confab"
Why would it? Both the American and Chinese governments (regardless in America's case of which party is in power) have exactly the same attitude to their populations. As has the UK government of course.
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