2288 posts • joined 6 Nov 2009
Excuse me while I vomit.
"We're also proud to be a force for good in the world beyond our products,"
Oh, and no, that is not my reaction just because it's Apple, I would react the same way whichever CEO from "Big Corp" had said the same.
@Don Jefe: "... Since I am an engineer....."
That howling noise you could hear in the background was me cheering loudly.
@bpfh "That landing could be baaaaaaaaad..."
Some things tells me that I really want to read their EULA before I book any tickets!
@Mike Bell Your post gives the impression that you wish to pick a quarrel regardless......
.......of what I actually posted. To take two of your points:
1. " even if they don't have a clue what it actually means." That was pretty much what I said. Some may have heard of it but they " wouldn't know what a 64–bit system was if it bit them in the arse."
2. "They probably don't need you to tell them how they need to go about presenting and marketing their stuff. Absolutely nowhere in my post did I even mention Apple, it was indeed abundantly clear from my piece that it was the analysts I was referring to, hence my visual play on words when I said "Analists (sic) mention the architecture....."
You are by definition fully entitled to disagree with what I have posted but I take serious exception to point number 2 which was in fact based on something I had not said or even implied, I made no attempt in that post to advise Cupertino about anything at all. Posting that kind of thing is thoroughly dishonest.
Re : 64–bit?
I agree. Analists (sic) mention the architecture in a sad attempt to convince us that they are tech-savvy - the vast majority of customers for retail electronic devices wouldn't know what a 64–bit system was if it bit them in the arse and its presence would have zero effect on their decision to buy. All they are interested in is "does it just work?" (to coin a phrase) and is their new precious "shiney shiny".
@Charlie Clark Re: "need to be compatible with docking stations and Microsoft........
..........won't have any of those until 2014".
Interesting that you should say that as I just spotted the following at a Norwegian site (I live in North Norway):
The site indicates that they are expecting delivery at the beginning of November. From the site:
3,5 mm audio
3,5 mm out
USB 2.0 port x 3
USB 3.0 port x 1
RJ-45 Fast Ethernet 10/100 Mbit/s
If this is correct then MS have taken that point on board, although I have to say that I do not remotely understand why they did not release such a peripheral with the first Surface Pro.
You are comparing apples with oranges.
"With the iPad Air here, the weight of the Surface Pro underscores how lightness is a major factor for considering in a tablet."
By all means compare the iPad Air with the Surface 2 (ie iOS device against RT device) but the only comparison with the Surface 2 Pro and kit from Apple is the MBA. People who are looking for a media consumption table are not the market for a Surface Pro 2 or a "Mac Pad Air" * (ie a tablet running a touch friendly version of OS X).
*As yet an imaginary device but it would not astonish me if Apple's skunk works in the Great Doughnut From Outer Space had such a prototype device on the test-bench.
Am I the only one who blinked at the following?
"calling the slab the lightest full-size tablet in the world."
Where did they get that definition from? There are larger tablets, virtually all high-end kit, don't they count?
@Quxy Re: "occupied by competitors who both have OSes....."
That was an interesting experimented you ran. I think that I would also point out that comparing x86 and ARM setups (which they have done in fact according to this article) rather confuses the picture*. To what extent Intel x86 architecture is intrinsically more "thirsty" than ARM SoCs must also be involved here. However, having said that it is clear that Redmond still have some work to do.
*Had they included a Windows RT slab (running on ARM) that might also have been interesting.
@Dan55 The problem here is, partly anyway, that Mountain View's own business model....
"Devs also need to be encouraged to use as few permissions as possible so malware apps stand out."
....... is based on persuading people to give permissions that are as extensive as possible - they would have some difficult telling the Dev's "Don't do as we do, do what we tell you to do".
Re: The gold iPhone. What might we call it?
The iChav perhaps?
Actually, I have to grit my teeth and admit that this politician's suggestion..........
........makes sense. It is straightforward, simple and ought to be reasonably ok to administer. That does not, of course, guarantee that it will be as effective as this guy clearly hopes but at least it should not cost a shed load of spons to run. Bloody 'ell, if politicos carry on like this I will be in severe danger of developing some respect for them - see icon.
"And suck donkey balls."
Whilst I do not quite share your taste in partners (:P) I entirely agree with the sentiments expressed in your post. Up-vote duly delivered.
@AC 1843 GMT. Well, well, well. Yet another example from an AC of the love........
.........that durst not speak its name.
"Windows 8.1 still sucks donkeyballs for anyone that wants to WORK with their PC. For people that TOY, it's OK, but then so is a £99 Argos/Tesco/ASDA Android tablet...."
Apple fanboi perhaps, hmm? If you aren't then your phrasing of that posting was extremely peculiar.
@JC "and I like Windows 8..."
Oh my God. You can't say that here, its like spitting in church. In heaven's name see icon.
@ecofeco RE: "......Not just Apple......"
I agree. Like you I am not any kind of iPhanboi (something that I suspect the regulars amongst our little congregation may have noticed!) but it is very clear that. if we are going to question a company who farms out its production to this kind of operation, then it is not only Cupertino that has to answer some difficult questions. Western capitalism takes the view that it does not have to answer to anyone (sometimes the "Managerati" are not even willing to listen to concerns that some of their own shareholders have raised)' a view that should and must be challenged. Apple may (like Amazon or Microsoft, for example) be "poster boys" for this kind of attitude but they must answer for the decisions they take to the society they operate in. After all they could not exist without us wage-slaves and customers could they, hmmm?
It is fascinating to see how ignorant the stripy shirted sharks can be........
"Ever since Apple unveiled its fingerprint recognition technology on the iPhone 5S shares in biometrics firms have been enjoying something of a boom."
.............They only noticed biometrics as a potential growth area when a fingerprint scanner turned up on their iThingies?
@Matt Bryant Funny you know. Whenever anybody logs on to explain that..............
..............it is all the fault of the socialists/communists/trots what have you I always know that I am dealing with someone that practically goose-steps in their sleep.
Re: "Why only 31 T Mobile customers?......"
A very good point old chap - you owe me a new keyboard!
I read this bit and I still can't get my head round it.
"and another 20 per cent would do so if they knew how."
Pardon? See icon.
Re: Sorry state of affairs
There is, whether one likes it or not a certain "wood for the trees" phenomenon here. IE. That those working most closely on a project lose perspective (however much they are aware of this and try to avoid it). I think Redmond are very wise to provide these incentives to external researchers who have a more dispassionate relationship to the task concerned.
".......using conventional planar semiconductor technology reaches its theoretical limit..........."
I feel that it is not simply nitpicking to wish to modify that sentence such that it reads as:
".......using conventional planar semiconductor technology based on silicon reaches its theoretical limit..........."
The limit here is after all being imposed by the physical-chemistry of that specific material - ie its crystal structure and consequent inter-atomic distances.
@Regtard "....Samsung were attempting to use FRAND patents in a manner.........."
One could also point out that Cupertino's attitude to any negotiations with Samsung where they claimed they were willing to license* to Samsung but demanded** $30 to $40 per device as their price for not starting their judicial carpet bombing campaign against the Koreans indicates very strongly that Apple was not interested in coming to a settlement that involved anything other than abject surrender by Samsung. Their intention was very clearly to destroy Samsung (and thereby seriously damage Android) in the US market.
*One should also take into account IMHO that the kind of patents granted to Apple and many other companies by the US patent office make an absolute mockery of the concept of rational law.
**Otherwise known as "demanding money with menaces" a practice that would earn any ordinary individual a jail term.
This still begs the question..........
"Britons spend one in every 12 waking minutes on the internet, causing advertisers to splurge great wads of cash on online marketing, according to an internet advertisers' trade body."
................are they paying anymore attention than they do to telly ads these days?
Re:Tom 7 "even the righteous damnation is a bloody remake."
They are probably the first example of torrented distribution!
@Trevor_Pott RE: "I hope they all get cholera."
You are far too kind hearted Trevor, I prefer the following.
"3.1 1. Plague of blood (דָם): Ex. 7:14–25
3.2 2. Plague of frogs (צְּפַרְדֵּעַ): Ex. 7:25–8:11
3.3 3. Plague of lice or gnats (כִּנִּים): Ex. 8:16–19
3.4 4. Plague of flies or wild animals (עָרוֹב): Ex. 8:20–32
3.5 5. Plague of pestilence (דֶּבֶר): Ex. 9:1–7
3.6 6. Plague of boils (שְׁחִין): Ex. 9:8–12
3.7 7. Plague of hail (בָּרָד): Ex. 9:13–35
3.8 8. Plague of locusts (אַרְבֶּה): Ex. 10:1–20
3.9 9. Plague of darkness (חוֹשֶך): Ex. 10:21–29
3.10 10. Death of the firstborn (מַכַּת בְּכוֹרוֹת): Ex. 11:1–12:36"
What a bunch of charmers they are to be sure.
"The latter will mean that the guilty party customer can be identified from the source of any copy found on the internet."
So little johnny borrows a film from his mate and plays it and the next thing Dad knows is that "the boys" are kicking his door in. They appear to be utterly ignoring the lessons from audio downloads and the like. Oh and I would be grateful if their apologists do not come out with the "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear" routine*.
*Attributed to Joseph Goebbels, ironically enough.
"featuring William Hartnell and Patrick Troughton"
A veritable treasure trove no less
@I ain't Spartacus. There I have to agree with you.
"How Skype, with virtually no assets and no history of making profits can be worth more than Nokia's phone division is a mystery"
Why and how the MS board agreed to that purchase is something that escapes me completely.
It is obvious from this.........
"swift exit from a lengthy battle with the 28-bloc state might actually satisfy Google for a different reason, however. Almunia has already made it clear that, despite requests from the complainants in the case that include Microsoft and Foundem, he will not be proceeding with a second market test that would allow Google's rivals to closely scrutinise the new proposals it has tabled with the commission."
...........that while the commission wants to tackle Google's anti-competative behaviour they do not wish to appear to be acting on behalf of companies (note the plural form, it is not just about MS) whose own form sheet is not exactly something to boast about.
@Don Jefe There is very little that I would disagree with here.
"Are Apple great inventors, I don't really think so. They are, or were depending on your views, pretty good innovators. They've had some well received combinations on their takes on existing ideas. Whether you like their products or not, hundreds of millions of people do like them and are willing to spend more than really necessary to have them*. They have an innovative positioning strategy and innovative products, but they aren't creators, inventors or craftsmen."
Although I would have to add that I do not own an iPhone, do not wish to and yes, they are definitely pricey!
@admiraljkb "...: the studies I saw put it at 20% on "3D".....
I had a vague feeling that I had seen reports of even higher figures than the 15% I cited. Certainly Madame AF herself cannot cope with "3D" rendering any question of "upgrading" our TV moot to say the least of it! Like you I am surprised that Apple decided to release v7 with this "feature", however, at least one now has an excuse for refusing to even look at this or that mate's latest acquisition!
Re: A split personality release
I am rather surprised that Apple have made such an elementary error given that it is a well known phenomenon that the various forms of ersatz 3D on the market today have precisely that effect on about 15% of viewers.
Re:" It is made to fight Android mid-tier in established markets. Like the UK."
Spot on. The phone simply makes no business sense in "the third world". However, it makes a lot of sense from Cupertino's point of view if they are taking aim at Samsung, HTC, Sony etc as far as their mid-point offerings are concerned.
The fact of the matter is that Nokia have a huge portfolio of wholly...........
.........genuine and credible hardware patents - they have after all been in the game a long time and done an awful lot of R&D. If these patents are indeed nonessential and not covered by FRAND terms then HTC will just have to pay up. Oh and yes, as has already been pointed out this has bugger all to do with The Demonlords of Redmond because all they got as part of the purchase of the mobile division was the right to "rent" use of the patents for ten years.
Do try not to laugh or howl (as some here have a tendency to do)......
"By building its own hardware, Turner said, Microsoft has gained a far better insight into what he described as the "seams" between hardware and software, which have often been a weakness for PC makers when compared to more tightly integrated vendors, such as Apple.e"
...........but what he is saying (plus Ballmer's pretty objective assessment of where MS are in mobile) may indicate they have learnt something. Hmm? Although I realise of course that is the last thing that some here want to hear. Icon? Chosen deliberately, I do assure you.
".that all users of that vile technology are actually worshipers of Satan."
My apologies for an off topic digression but I was reminded of an old joke about a dyslexic devil worshipper who was utterly crushed when he realised he had sold his soul to Santa. I know, see icon.
@Squander Two Indeed it is a tough call.
My guess would be that "the boys" are more likely to be sexist than racist but I have to admit that some of the postings on this thread are very depressing.
Re: "just feeling very sad that....."
Agree entirely. Those kinds of Neanderthal comments vanish over the event horizon of embarrassment.
@Mike Taylor RE "Just awful comments"
I entirely agree. So far (10.22 GMT 19th Sept) there are at least three or four postings on this thread whose "authors" should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves.
Nothing much has changed since Marie Lloyd sang the following a century or so ago.
"It's the same the whole world over,
It's the poor that get the blame,
It's the rich that get the pleasure,
Ain't it all a bloody shame."
That would appear to be common sense.
"Dell has now amassed more than 133,000 partners worldwide, with circa 4,000 certified as top-tier Preferred or Premier. It approves tens of thousands of deal registrations a quarter - the mechanism Dell uses reward firm that bring deals to the table - and this is all too much to risk."
Any other attitude would definitely be a case of torching the barn with all the stock inside.
@Vimes The problem is that in practice mob producers have to, in effect, bribe.......
.........the carriers to put any genuine PR/advertising effort behind the device. This is particularly true of producers that do not have any kind of whip hand. The carriers are a plague on us all, regardless of which phone/operating system we might prefer.
@ARP2 As it so happens I can understand why you (and clearly many others).....
...........take this view. However, I would argue that being willing to poke up with an OS is not exactly a reccomendation. If we, pro techies and enthusiastic amateurs alike, cannot be bothered to regard change as, potentially positive and interesting, what hope is there for the "great unwashed"? If we of all people react by whining "why doesn't it just work" what hope is there with regard to persauding the aforementioned that "RTFM" might be something worth doing?
@Steve Knox It is not often that I would admit......
" Non-fanatics were stunned by the fact that Apple hadn't included those basic features in v.1."
.............to agreeing with a certain famous chair-throwing former CEO but his comments on the first iPhone were (IMHO) right on the money. What was innovative about v.1 was that Jobs persuaded so many to buy it even at the price Apple were asking for it! :-)
@Mike G With the greatest of respect old chap nobody here is suggesting anything of the sort.
Your posting is, unfortunately, a "straw-man argument". The point here is that Western governments have been forcing companies within their jurisdiction to do precisely what Chinese companies have been accused of. The issue is not being "virgins" with regard to what Chinese companies might get up to but rather the hypocrisy of our own governments.
Re:"..they won't be paying any tax".
That somehow does not come as an amazing shock to me!
That is splendid and I am, genuinely, delighted for American workers.
Now all we need to know is where this company will be paying their taxes - if any.
@AceRimmer You are clearly unfamiliar with..............
"It would have made more sense for them to take the baby Mammoths. Take enough and the population will start to dwindle and become unsustainable."
............with the reaction of modern day she-elephants to anyone threatening one of their calves. The safe option it most certainly wouldn't have been!
I do beg your pardon?
"According to its China website, the low cost multi-coloured iPhone 5C will be available for between 4,488 and 5,288 yuan ($733-864, £466-549)."
Low cost? I realise of course that the English language is changing rapidly but this is a new definition of low cost with which I am totally unfamiliar.
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