2288 posts • joined 6 Nov 2009
It's all right, no need to panic.
When they reach Skåne they will realise they do not understand a word the locals* are saying and they'll turn round and swim straight back.
*Nobody in the rest of Sweden understands what folk from Skåne are saying.
@Phillip RE "Well if you are going down that line of argument"
To continue your analogy so that it *can* be compared with what Apple are trying to get away with we can, for example, suggest Sikorski. Consider a situation where they had sued every other helicopter maker on the grounds that the other manufacturers offerings had an *appearance* that was too much like the *appearance* of Sikorski's helicopters even though the engineering/hardware clearly had *not* been copied from Sikorski. Would one not then be absolutely right to cite Leonardo de Vinci and prior art?
According to the report on the Graun's tech-site, Reuter's are reporting that this alleged "cheap" version of the iPhone4 will have "an improved antenna". If this really is the case one has to wonder what the improvement(s) might be. Not external perhaps? Not in two parts that can be bridged? Do we not have it on the authority of no less than Mr Jobs himself that there is nothing wrong with the iPhone4's current antenna? All that noise in the media at the time was purely got up by Cupertino's rivals?
A classic "Microshill" rant/accusation. You do not like an article and your response is to accuse the author(s) of, in practice, being on the take. El Reg can be accused of a great deal (indeed it is fun to do so) but if you haven't noticed that they take the piss here out of Big Corp regularly (whether it is Apple, Google, Intel or, yes, Microsoft) then you have not followed El Reg very closely.
Indeed if you used the old grey matter a bit then you would realise that a site like Reg which addresses IT professionals (and in that way attracts their advertising revenue) would realise that the very *last* tone they would wish to adopt would be one that appeared to favour one of the big boys in the industry. Why is that? Because IT pros tend to be a fairly cynical bunch and El Reg would loose all credibility with their audience and their capacity to attract that audience is the source of their ad-revenue. If a significant section of the sites regulars became convinced that Reg was brown-nosing BigCorp their click-rate (and thereby their revenue) would go down the kahzi. See how easy it is when one tries to do a bit of joined up thinking instead of howling?
The only thing one can conclude from *your* posting is that you have a *very* protective/strange relationship to your choice of phone and your playstation.
And let us not forget.........
........"Microshill" for that drive-by ad hominem attack.
Pardon, old chap?
"The reasoning WinMo7 is discounted is simply because it's shit. I have used one it's not even close to Android 1.5,"
Don't misunderstand me, my phone's a Desire Z - very happy with Android, like the os very much. However, WP7 worse than the 1.5 iteration of Android? That kind of brain-dead teenage fanboism does nobody any service and simply makes you look like an ignorant expletive. If you cannot post anything other than that kind of spew, do us all a favour and vanish.
Now there's a funny thing, there I was believing that all these media channel thingys.........
...........were all evil and should be shut down the moment the plods or politicos want them shut down (because of course I believe implicitly in everything the Daily Heil tells me) and now we see it just depends - as in whether they like you using these media or not and when it suits *them*. Now there's a surprise.
Total airhead, bimbo or whatever.
Surprising she is capable of *thinking* without moving her lips let alone reading.
RE "Top ten outdoor gadgets"
What kind of outdoor trips are we talking about here, "Deliverance"?
One is sorely tempted
"Back in the mid-80s, when businesses were expected to talk the IT department’s language, all this may have meant something. These days it is like discussing angels dancing on the head of a pin. Business managers just want the damn stuff to work when they need it so they can make money. End of story."
To tell the business manager he is an arrogant know-nothing shit and find another way of earning a living. Almost anything would do as long as one did not have to put up with that kind of manager.
A little more clarity of thought would be welcome when making comparisons.
"The choice for a manufacturer now is a straight one, between Android and Windows Phone. "
In an article that is talking about *both* smartphones *and* tabs it is actually necessary to distinguish between which comparison of operating systems we are talking about. The above sentence makes sense only if it is just smartphones we are talking about. In practice the *only* current choice in *tablets* for the OEMs is Android. The only relevant comparison if one *is* talking about Windows in the *tablet* space is not yet available (Win8) and will not become available until the middle of next year at the earliest. This market (whether we are talking smartphones, tablets or both) is still at a *very* early/immature stage and all of us who prognosticate too didactically are risking an awful lot of egg meets face.
"Every pound taken in benefits is a pound taken out of the country / taxpayers - every pound earned is money in."
I assume that you are of course directing these admonitions at employers who pay such shit that one still needs benefits, the landlords who feed off the benefits system and of course (lest we forget) the (w)bankers, all of whom are parasites on the public purse on a scale that the average poor sod on the social can only dream about.
@Steve Evans Re Upgrade Cycles
Like you (as we have discussed before) I am still happy with my "Z" and yes, unless one is a totally maniacal fanboy I do not see the point with constant upgrading. One ends up never having a genuine "wow" feeling because the difference (in reality) between each successive piece of kit is minor. I seem to recall that at one point (before smart phones took off) that people were upgrading their dumbphone shinys every nine months! The manufacturers must of course have thought that they were in pig heaven. Problem here is that when you have bought something high end with the capabilities of a modern smartphone (and the price) an upgrade cycle shorter than eighteen months/two years just does not make sense - financially or in terms of the improvement in the kit that you are getting for the money. The current length of contracts appears to be about right in regard to upgrades for everybody but the most obsessive fanboy (although I do not myself buy on contract). The manufacturers want you to spend 500 quid on one of their high end offerings and then expect you to treat it as if it were disposable! They would be better off taking notice of your final point - battery life. Given that the modern smartphone market has existed for about a decade it is a flaming disgrace that battery life has scarcely improved at all. BTW, it will be interesting to see what Nokia in fact manage with their first "Nokiasoft" phone, after all battery life has always been one of their major strengths.
@jai Re "Sometimes". I will admit that that nirvana you discribe (although the.......
........beverage in my case is coffee) is extraordinarily attractive. That was in fact my reaction to the article. It was indeed interesting and instructive and I felt refreshed after having read it instead of totally wound up and ready to bite someone's head off. Obviously El Reg made a big mistake and it won't happen again. No doubt somebody will be disciplined such this type of error is not repeated.
@proto-robbie Good points, I have to agree.
If in addition they concentrated on battery life (we after all are talking about *mobile* computing here are we not?) instead of "my dick is bigger than your dick" "improvements" we would all be better off.
What on earth has happened here?
A thoughtful, intelligent, fascinating and well written article from which I learnt rather a lot. Without any jokes, satire or the faintest smell of clickbait in it. Have I logged on to the wrong site?
@Tegne I do not think that Cupertino would that arogant and stupid.
The Kindle app is probably one of the most well known and popular apps on the face of the smartphone planet. If Apple were to break the app even when it is no longer being used for in-app payments I think even the most devoted iPhan might get rather upset. I am not saying that the cult's priest-caste are incapable of error but I think that even they would think twice before, in practice, banning the Kindle as an e-book *reader* app from the iPhone.
@D@v3 "Companies such as Amazon and FT are just doing what Jobs wanted in the first place."
You mean that companies like Amazon *not* giving Apple 30% of their action was all part of Mr Job's master plan? Hmm, truly it is written that Lord Steve moves in mysterious ways His wonders to perform.
Hello? Over £500?
Sorry, if I am going to pony up over 500 quid for a phone it would have to be so ultra cutting edge that the manufacturer would had to have imported it from 5 years in future by means of a TARDIS. This rather mediocre BB definitively does not qualify. If RIM do not start to deliver kit at a price that you can afford without looting your nearest CPW they are going to end up going even faster down the kahzi than they are now.
ps Great sub-heading BTW - I just howled when I read it.
RE "Where were ofcom when sky chased all the........."
Ah, but you see that was *before* Hackergate blew up in the Dirty Digger's face. That was when his friends within all sorts of organisations both public and private regarded keeping Rupert happy as a major priority. Suddenly, for some remarkable and mysterious reason, they all seem to have abandoned him - I cannot imagine why. Thoughts of rats and sinking ships come to mind.
Re "Aspirational marketing"
To add to your list of those adverts that have taken the micky out of aspirational marketing I have to say that one of my favourites is the Carling Black Label series whose punchline "I bet he drinks Carling Black Label" became a national favourite.
I have often seen marketing which revolves around trying to convince the punter that..........
.............that they (against *all* the evidence including the bathroom mirror and their girlfriend's howls of laughter) that they will be smarter, sexier, better looking and more popular if they buy this, that or the other product. I am on this occasion however forced to issue my hearty congratulations to the marketing department of Apple Corp. This is the first time that I have ever really seen that form of advertising work on this kind of scale - you guys are clearly worth every penny Apple pay you.
I know that this is going to get me a shed load of down votes but I do not care.
I speak as a very happy Desire Z owner, I think that Android as a mob os is an excellent operating system. However, it is (so far at any rate) not impressive as a tab os and the hardware with few exceptions (the most notable IMHO being the Asus Transformer) being decidedly mediocre. The fact of the matter is, whether you like or not, the only serious challenge that Apple is likely to face in the tab market is Win8 (if MS *actually* succeed in doing what they claim they are trying to do). MS are in reality the only company currently who has a cat's chance in hell of making a dent in Cupertino's lead in that market. Embarrassing isn't it?
By supporting Crave and its pioneering flash-drive-cum-vibrator [No pun intended. – Ed]
Wafting towards us on the breeze of a summer evening we here the strains of the park band playing "Believe it if you like".
Yes, I am sure that Apples lawyers will..........
............table a motion shortly.
RE "Nothing of the sort" Not *quite* that bad.
Win 7 Pro is currently available at Amazon.com for $223. Still not exactly cheap of course!
"If only Apple could send an iPad back in time"
In 2005 iNet was finally switched on and within..................
@Armando 123 RE "A lot of ifs"
Of course there are "ifs" in any discussion of future possibilities - I do not claim to have a more advanced crystal ball than the next guy. I would point out however that the reasons why the business market is not yet tapped into in any *serious* way is there is not currently available an os that is *both* touch friendly *and* a serious os. *If* Apple had developed a touch-friendly full version of OSX for tablets then that would be a different situation. If Win8 is implemented properly (yes, there's a caveat because I am not any kind of fanboy and I do not deal in certainties) then it will be the first touch friendly *full productivity* os in the tablet space. Then all that remains to be seen is a. Does the market, business and/or home want it? b. Will the OEMs actually produce kit worth running it on? All kinds of unknowns, rather like life in general.
I think that it is *possible* that as far as the tablet market is concerned......
.............we *may* be ignoring the (possible) 500 lb gorilla in the room because all the (entirely understandable) focus on Google/Android and Apple/iOS. In less than a year (as seems increasingly likely) Win8 will be coming to the tablet party. If we take as a hypothetical assumption for the purposes of discussion that MS *do* succeed in creating a *genuinely* touch-friendly version of Windows that does not kill your battery then what effect will *that* have on the market? I think that the current assumption that this is simply a war between Mountain View and Cupertino and that Redmond will remain irrelevant in the tablet space may, just may, prove to be a mistake. Given what a *seriously* pony os Win7 is as a tablet/touch UI os it is fairly amazing that they, believe or not, actually have 5% of the tablet market today! I think that any assumptions that this will remain a two-way fight are rather premature.
"As we said above, whether HTC, Samsung, and the other 36 Android partners should be placing calls to Redmond to inquire about Windows Phone 7 licenses depends on whether Page & Co.'s assurances are to be believed."
Not quite sure what the sense of what you are saying there is old chap but HTC and Samsung are *already* WP7 manufacturers.
@Joe K RE "They know"
Yes, such choral recitals from a very obvious communal song sheet do have a tendency to arouse a certain degree of (understandable) cynicism. However, it may also reflect a certain degree of truth here inasmuch as they (the other OEMs) may not like the situation but that they may very well understand that Mountain View felt that it had no choice and that (to some extent) it *may* help Google to support its OEMs when the next cloud of sub-orbital writ delivery systems start taking off from Cupertino.
Although, I also have to say that it may very well be that events of the last year (Nokia-MS alliance and now this) portend a shake up and restructuring in the mobile communications and computing market that we might not quite have anticipated as recently as a year ago.
@OhFFS RE "Odd conclusion"
I agree with you. Whilst one cannot discount the possibility of poor judgement completely I have to say that I doubt whether Google seriously intends to shaft the rest of their industrial partners. Any more in fact than it is likely that MS will because of *their* alliance with Nokia. In both cases such behaviour would be unbelievably stupid. I have no doubt that their other OEMs (whether they are Android or WP7 OEMs or both) are a bit nervous but I suspect that both Google and MS will regard it as in their own best interests to reassure their various partners. This has (IMO) far more to do with drawing the battle lines with regard to the coming Patent Wars (Armageddon II coming to a cinema near you). What will be left on the battlefield in the aftermath is not something that is easy to predict.
@Neill Mitchell RE "Share price up "
I may be mistaken but I do not believe that MS presently believe that it is in their business interests to actually *buy* Nokia. Why should they when they can get Nokia's divided attention (given Nokia's situation in the market) *and* that the combination of Nokia and MS have little to fear from the "Patent Wars" that have recently been declared by The Man from Cupertino? Google was in a *very* different situation, a situation where they *badly* needed Moto's patent portfolio, *that* is what this is all about.
@JC RE "Elop & Nokia" Ssssh, you are not supposed to say such things here.
You are supposed to repeatedly howl the following:
1. Nokia has been BORGED.
2. Elop is Micro$oft's Bum Boy
3. Bye, Bye Nokia.
Didn't you get the memo?
Memo to El Reg, can't we please have a satire icon, hmmm?
Interesting that Google has chosen such a strategy.
They could have for their own version of the alliance between Nokia and MS. The fact that they did not and have gone for a complete buyout at a premium price per share suggests very strongly that Moto's IP portfolio was indeed a key element in this deal.
Not *quite* the whole story there.
"After NoDo was made available, Microsoft took great pleasure in crowing "I told you so" in an official company blog post here. ®"
They also worked with the ChevronWP7 devs concerned in the aftermath to ensure that an "official" fix was available OTA so that those punters who had done it *would* be able to sort it out and get the full NoDo upgrade.
"iPhone 5 less than a month away"
I will try, very hard, to contain my mounting excite.....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
@Dave Kelly 2 RE "Are they paying Lucas?"
Given that he is even quicker off the mark when it comes to suing people than The Man from Cupertino, they had better be paying royalties.
Re "WTF" We are to assume then that *not* getting...........
........... 30% of Amazon's action is all part of Steve's master plan?
All of them need their own seperate power-supply?
.........Then I am absolutely uninterested.
No, not precisely unelected but then........
.........................37% after more than a decade in the wilderness of unelectability facing a pretty unpopular PM in GB does not amount to a ringing endorsement from the British people, hmmm?
Absolutely old chap. However...........
.................at least they worked out which service arm they were talking about (ie the wet one) and which country it belonged to. It could have been worse you know. They might have started burbling on about the "British Air Corp" or some such nonsense.
Can somebody help me here?
"The SLA does not apply when the service is hit by availability issues arising from "factors outside of our control" – one of the criteria."
Unless I have misunderstood the article this was (I quote) an "act of God" situation which got to be a factor outside of the control of Redmond. They have all the same paid compensation, haven't they? Or have I really misunderstood this report?
@Brian Miller Maybe, maybe not.
I read the original reports in the papers this morning here in Norway and the police were asked about exactly that point and the reply was "it depends on the circumstances". What they were referring to was the fact that under Norwegian law if the police themselves or someone acting on their behalf (in the direct sense) had done this then, yes it would indeed be inadmissible. However, under other circumstances it is possible that the court could and would rule the evidence as admissible although the issue of tampering would of course also have to be addressed. They will of course obtain an order for the backups anyway, part of their problem has been the sheer scale of the crime (in Norwegian context) and the amount of evidence both forensic in the conventional sense and the digital is on such a scale that there is a fair amount that they literally have not had time to get to yet.
"How the hell anyone is going to make any money .............."
Other than FaceBook and Google of course!
I think that we have a major problem here.
This concept of the seamless cross-platform experience where all your devices run the same app and you can pick up where you left off regardless of which device you have picked up is of course (by definition) dependent upon wireless syncing. Now that is fine if you are on your wi-fi network at home or at work. The in-between bit? That's 3G dependent - you gotta pay. Problem with that is the punter does not like paying. Cloud-based app experience seamlessly syncing/updating all your devices on the go is technically easier and smoother but that's an awful lot of 3G time being used and the punter, wait you guessed it, does not want to pay. The actual usage of many *locally* stored apps is (of course) heavily dependent upon being on-line. The carriers are stopping "all you can eat" plans because they do not have the capacity to cope with the demand for broadband that people *are* willing to pay for let alone the extra usage that would enable devs etc to be on genuine earners and they have yet to persuade the public to open their wallets for (plus with the increase in demand that the public are willing for prices are going to rise). Fundamentally what is not being recognised is that this is a *very* tough market where the punter is as tight as a gnat's chuff and utterly unwilling to pay more than peanuts unless the app or service is a major league killer app. Navigating via Google maps? They'll pay for the 3G usage then. Buy their favourite game? That they'll pay for. Anything else? You have to pry that pound/dollar out of their cold dead hands. The problem is that all the *ordinary* punter actually *needs* fundamentally from their shiny is to communicate (text, phone call, e-mail, navigate), in general terms what you are trying to do is to persuade them to *want* more and be willing to pay for it. However at the same time you are trying to persuade them to part with money for this or that, the price of *using* it is going to go higher and higher. The would-be seller's challenge is to persuade the public to pay *continuously* (initial purchase + bandwidth) for something and the public wish to continuously *not* pay for anything unless they perceive an overwhelming case for doing so. Face it, the punter does not want to part with a penny piece and the costs of what he/she *is* willing to pay for are going to rise as we hit capacity limits. How the hell anyone is going to make any money at the moment escapes me completely.
So we can now claim that referring to someone as an "arsewipe" .........
.............is an expression of religious respect?
"a metric shit ton of evil"
This would be the approved SI unit for demon-spawn activity?
I'll get my coat.
Ah yes, that's it!
That explains it. Apple aren't really suing Samsung because of product appearance or anything like that at all. They're suing them for nicking their business model!
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