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It ought to be obvious that..........
..........any revenues due to Android phones for MS are a drop in the ocean compared with their other sources of revenue in that division. You have noticed that that division includes a couple of devices that you may have heard of that are making MS a touch more money than anything from patent income due to Android, haven't you? You are surely not suggesting that the growth of *45%* in that area of the company was due to, roughly, £3 a phone from HTC and equivalent from the two or three other minor players who have settled with MS?
This will no doubt appease some of their shareholders?
We will likely see the Windows division doing better rather earlier than the release of Win8! The upgrade/churn cycle in the business sector is beginning to pick up speed again with the phasing out of XP and it is likely that that will be reflected in the present 12 month period's sales of Win7. However, it is certainly also true that the overall potential of conventional Windows sales on your desktop pc is being affected by the changes in the consumer electronics market (tablets etc). *There* I would agree we are going to have to wait to see how Win8 does in order to see what the long term future holds for the Windows division.
@Richard Re "So it's just me who fancies a go with one of these then?"
Not at all old chap. I have to admit that this piece brought a smile to my face. The technology is not quite yet up to making this a real proposition (IMHO), battery life alone makes it a touch impractical (to put it mildly!). However, the next gen in chips and battery tech with Win8 perhaps? The basic concept is by no means a fail, just a little too early out of the gate in relation to the hardware/software equation.
For a moment I thought that I had logged on to the Graun's tech website....
.......after all they regularly do this type of puff piece for The Man From Cuppertino, bit of a shock when I realised it was dear old El Reg - what happened?
That has been part of the problem.
Not merely the lack of peripherals available on the market that the article refers to. Its only been relatively recently that people like Asus, Gigabyte and MSI have begun releasing mobos with native USB 3.0 ports. Any desktop that you might have (AFAIK) that is more than about half a year old will be most unlikely to have them and only a few pretty high end lappies released during the last year have them.
Getting hold of an adaptor should in fact be quite easy, Amazon has several pci express adaptors, for example:
Apparently she is trying the........
........."everyone was at it" defence (according to other columns I have read today) or words to that effect. It is almost horrifying (in a very satisfying and fascinating way) watching this whole business unravel in slo-mo.
Munging can apparently mean................
1. Creating a very strong password by character substitution.
2. The practice of disguising an e-mail address.
3. A comprehensive rewrite of a routine, data structure or the whole program.
4. Necrophilia (apparently L.A. slang from the early nineties).
If one engages in # 4 one might very well wish to ensure than any details on your pc or your e-mail address are heavily protected/disguised!
I have to say that since I got 2.3 and the latest "flash" on my Desire Z video has been a very decent experience. No lagging or jittering. Pleasantly surprised, impressed even.
@ Evil Auditor. Re: "or no fanbois are left."
"'Tis a consummation devoutly to be wished."
That panting and moaning you can hear is..........
.............Jeremy Clarkson having a "private moment."
A modest proposal for when the review object is *that* pony. Why not have a, ahem, "shit list" where the names of everything not worth more than, say, 40% get posted? It was clearly not worth the dignity of a full review. I took one look at your mark and hopped straight to the comments section to write this without bothering to give the piece itself more than a cursory glance. I have to say that I sympathise - it cannot be much fun to have to review something like this.
That Apple were more dependent on Samsung's expertise than they are keen on admitting. That Apple will likely be doing more in-house is (from their point of view) a logical move. However, I would love to know what *really* prompted this spat between Apple and Samsung. I do not believe for one moment that some months ago SJ suddenly awoke one morning and send "fuck me, the bastards have ripped off our 3GS". Something else is behind this quarrel, what it might be however completely escapes me.
Apart from wondering what the point with this machine is...........
............I also have to say that your point about the likely price in the UK is (if you will forgive me!) right on the money. When one notes that one can get a pretty decent netbook for that kind of money or indeed, for example, the Asus Transformer *with* the docking station at that price point one ends up with a feeling that Google did not exactly think this one through in the commercial sense.
@TeeCee Re Maternity Leave
"Maternity leave? But that would mean that someone..........OMFG, it's too horrible to think about!"
The gentleman concerned may simply have followed the advice allegedly given to Victorian ladies -
"Close your eyes and think of England"
Re "The hypocrisy is astounding."
That is indeed one of the most striking things about all recent statements from key players within the senior levels of NI, the impression of hypocrisy one get. However, IMO, it is likely the case that to a considerable extent they do *not* actually get it, hard though that may be to believe. Hypocrisy requires that one *knows* that one is pretending to have a moral code whilst not actually practising what one is preaching. One should not underestimate the self-justifying pathology that such people are capable of exhibiting. Such types are fully capable of believing in their heart of hearts that they have not done anything wrong even when what they are doing is blatantly illegal. An American hotel-heiress who got caught bending by the US tax authorities a decade or so ago famously remarked that "rules are for the little people" (one assumes she was referring to me and thee and not leprechauns!). In this way these sociopaths (for that is what they are) manage to project (before they are eventually caught out) a very convincing front - because they have succeeded in convincing themselves.
BTW, if anyone feels that I have gone a touch over the top in using the term "sociopath" I include the URL to a list of the symptoms - I think that you will recognise many of the characteristics the moment you read them! A certain wealthy and influential businessman and his chums are positively *clinical* examples.
"What profiteth a man if his reach doth not exceed his grasp?"
If it really is the case that MS *are* concretely aiming to unify Windows across *all* platforms then it is both risky (very) and logical (very). They are aiming very high indeed but (to recoin an old phrase) "the devil is in the implementation". In order for this to work then Win8's conventional GUI and its touch UI are going to have to be a first class user experience. Each of the interfaces will have to be at least as good as the best of each type that are on the market today on its own or other operating systems. Furthermore, *both* the x86 and the ARM versions will have to combine being a proper full song with choruses os with being as lean and mean with battery use as possible. I am not saying they *cannot* do it but it is a hell of a task they are setting themselves. If they fail then the rise of the tablets (getting more powerful for the same power usage, almost by the day) will see the beginning of the demise in the consumer electronics market of a Microsoft confined to a steadily decreasing (in the long term) conventional pc market. If they get it right they will still be entering a market with established competitors in a context very different from their traditional dominance of the desktop computer market. In that sense Ballmer is right when he says that Win8 is a gamble for MS because even if they get it right with Win8 and the os *is* a major cross-platform success the long term disruption of the market place will likely mean that their capacity to dominate a monolithic market will, quite likely, be gone for ever (all to the good IMHO, it is not healthy for one company to dominate any market however much one might like this or that product from them). That does not mean that even *if* they get it right they won't earn handsomely on it, they likely will - just that it will not be a re-run of the nineties/early noughties.
@Mako RE "Couldn't agree more".
Indeed. What we have seen revealed demonstrates that they had/have *exactly* the necessary poisonous blend of stupidity, arrogance and self-justifying hypocrisy to be capable of it. If it does turn out to be the case I think it is highly likely that the US will go after NI with almost as much eagerness as they went after Bin Laden. Though perhaps not in *quite* the same way - although we can always wish, can't we?!
Oh dear, oh dear.
If this is true, the Dirty Digger may indeed be facing the last round-up. The reaction of the American public and Congress if it is in fact proved that they attempted to "hack" the phones of 9/11 victim's families can readily be imagined. IE They will go completely berserk. Best of all he is an American citizen - boy oh boy, is NI now in trouble or what. This whole business on our side of the pond has already attracted a lot of notice "over there" and the effects may be catastrophic for that fine upstanding company - could not happen to a nicer bunch.
How far out on the extreme barking swivel-eyed end of the right wing do you.......
..........have to be to post that kind of garbage Ivan 4? Been spending too much time with your homeboy Ghengis lately have we?
Re "You can type and watch TV on your girlfriend?"
The lady clearly has first class hardware.
Agreed. In fact if the offering is popular there will no doubt be a number of good custom roms sporting 3.2 available. It will be interesting to see whether it ships with a locked boot-loader or not. I'm guessing that it will, although why they bother I do not know given that someone will work out how to prise it open.
It will be interesting to see customer reaction.
If the rumours are true and it is an 8 incher they are planning (assumption "widescreen") then the external dimensions of the tab will be almost identical with the current Kindle and in portrait mode very close to the current Kindle's screen width. Given that the 10 inch form-factor is the main favourite in the market *at the moment* it will be interesting to see what effect Amazon's effort has on public perceptions of which is the most useful/desirable form-factor.
"Odd that Apple won't let Mac OS be sold as an OS for a standard PC."
Yes, I have yet to see a convincing explanation other than than one or both of the following:
1. Apple do very good business from their hardware sales and wish to discourage customers just buying the os and doing their own thing with regard to the hardware.
2. They do not want a situation where straight sales of OSX per se could be compared with straight sales of Windows. (By straight sales I mean full version machine independent. Not pre-loaded, that would give Windows an unfair advantage in the comparison).
I am inclined to place more weight on the first of the two.
What it *does* say is that it is pretty sad that Apple cannot (in that particular market) sell their hardware unless it is loaded with Windows (Or "Windoze", "Micro$oft Shite" or what ever form of howling/screaming you prefer).....hmmm?
"Just turn left at Prestwick, keep swimming for 3000 odd miles and you'll bump into Merkinsville. You'll feel right at home there."
Nah, he probably comes from Prestwick - just another yankee-gangsta-wannabee.
Yo, bro, how's it hanging? - and all that.
"But will besmirched Murdoch try again in 2012?"
I think we will discover that the Dirty Digger's troubles are only just beginning. The US senate is now making noises with regard to any possibility that the same stunts have been pulled "over there". Furthermore, the difference in the UK between the issue for Labour and for the Tories is political dynamite. Even the average member of Joe Public is aware that the Labour party in government did not cover themselves in glory with regard to NI because they were shit scared of them. Not very impressive I am sure you will agree. On the other hand the Andy Coulson affair shows that the present Tory government have been actively in bed with Murdoch's hyenas - and that is a difference that even the great British public are capable of noticing. If "call me Dave" actually is willing to contemplate allowing Murdoch back in the game in a year or so he will be handing the Labour party an open goal. Even "Dave" could not be *that* stupid.
On a more serious note it is possible.........
............that he is not happy with the current policy of all out patent wars. Not every lawyer would necesserily feel that Apple's current tactics are the wisest they could employ.
Our eight legged friend leaves you (hopefully temporarily) feeling like.....
........"Jake the Peg, diddle-iddle-iddle-um
With his extra leg, diddle-iddle-iddle"
"As an all-in-one computer, the TouchSmart 610 mimics Apple’s iMac series...."
That roaring noise you can hear is a suborbital writ delivery system taking off from Cupertino as we speak.
"'Being cyber-stalked is as bad as being raped, or in a war'."
Er...... No it fucking isn't sunshine. Just talk to the women and children who have been mass raped as a weapon of war in several conflicts in recent years. Then you just might, possibly, not make a complete and total arse of yourselves with such statements.
A style statement for 10 year olds
@Piro "Not initially Dell's fault". Well yes up to a point.
Yes, I agree that Nichicon *are* a reputable (far more so than Dell IMHO) and one can say about their fuckup that shit happens sometimes. I would also agree that it would have been insane of Dell to *knowingly* at the outset ship defective goods. However, having said that it is impossible to believe that they succeeded in shipping nearly 12 million units before they noticed something was wrong. At some point they must have known and continued to ship. At that point they became just as guilty as if they *had* knowingly and deliberately shipped defective crap from the beginning. They should IMO be sued in the normal way for *all* defective units shipped and (if the law permitted it) prosecuted over every single one of those shipped after they *did* know. Until this kind of crap actually risks jail time (whatever the judicial position, this kind of thing is, morally speaking, a form of fraud) for the directors as well as damages nothing much is going to change.
Is that a 10 incher you have in your pocket........
................or are you just pleased to see me?
I think it is wonderful, I congratulate Amazon on a top class attempt to.........
..........discredit the patent system even further (if that is in fact possible). They quite obviously agree with us here at El Reg are doing their bit to bring about reform by satirising the system with a patent application of transcendent idiocy. I mean, they are aren't they? It could not possibly have been a *serious* application that they thought they could get away with could it?
On a slightly more serious note I think that the "big boys" should start thinking a bit. Much more of this kind of crap and they actually will in the end provoke the kind of reform that they would sooner gnaw their own legs off than have implemented.
Companies leak information all the time..........
..........in an attempt to improve (amongst other things) their share-price if they are feeling under pressure - particularly if they see a hostile bid on the horizon. Given that that clearly is done for financial gain can we look forward to the sight of directors of plcs/corporations regularly getting 30 years inside? No, I thought not.
@Steve Crook. Re "Labour".
The difference is that whilst New Labour were frightened of the Dirty Digger and News Corp, the ConDem government are in bed with them. Who was "Dave's" press-secretary until the shit became so public that he had to resign?
Judging by the downvote pattern there are some *very* sensitive.....
.................people lurking in the shadows, I wonder who they are and why.
@Mark 65 Power consumption, pah!
You just turn the central heating down - think of the saving!
Given Lewis' enthusiasm on the subject if.......
.........the local authorities do not play ball he will probably take off and nuke them from orbit.
I am sure that it is a great piece of kit, the operative word being "great" as in......
.........frakking gigantic. More seriously it is definitely drool-worthy, however, whilst Mme Arctic Fox is willing (just about) to live with our 55 inch Sammy, another 10 inches (ooo er missus) on the diagonal would mean divorce proceedings! Plus the fact that we would have to sit out on the terrace to be able to watch it from a sensible distance.
@M Gale Re "Uhm"
I see from your reply on the same point that we "paralleled" each other! I will admit that although I had the impression that what the graph shows us actually was the case, it was not until I set the display to make precisely that comparison that I realised how stark the contrast actually is. The next couple of years in "tab space" are going to be very interesting. What with hardware development roaring ahead (eg Nvidia's KalEl quad-core offering), the Android os doing gangbusters and seeing what impact Win8 has in the tab market end of 2012/beginning of 2013, it is pretty certain that we are only just seeing the beginning of a *serious* disruption/paradigm shift in the personal computer/mobile communications market. I should also add that although the received "wisdom" here at El Reg says that the upcoming Nokiasoft phones have to be greeted with howls of "Fail", "Nokia's been borged". "Elop is Ballmer's bumboy", "Micro$oft", etc etc it *is* just possible that Nokia may succeed in making positive waves with their "mangoed" WP7 phones. If that happens the market is going to get even more "complicated"! I speak BTW as the happy owner of a Desire Z - I just get fed up with the insistent beat of "Do you wanna be in my gang, my gang, my gang, do wanna be in my........." that we see so much of on some threads. I do not wear anybody's "colours", I just want to read about and discuss tech and sometimes get the impression that that is too much to ask!
@Martin Hill "We are comparing operating systems". By all means let us compare......
...........operating systems. If you go to StatCounter Global Stats at:
......you can set the graphical comparison to display the various flavours of os. If you set it to display only iOs and Android for the period from Jan 2009 up to the present you will see something very interesting. Whose os is exhibiting a positive slope and whose is exhibiting a negative slope over this time period taken as a whole? I'll give you a clue - you will not like what the graph shows you.
Actually the significance should be seen in a little bit larger context.
As in, what proportion of the worlds population own *any* kind of pc? Furthermore the proportion that actually own any kind of *tablet* is several orders of magnitude smaller than that. In other words the proportion of the worlds population that own an iPad is still vanishingly small (although its penetration of the consumer market in "advanced" countries is of course very impressive). On a lighter note if such a small proportion of the world's population (who own an iPad) manage to generate as much as 1% of the total internet traffic on the face of the planet one has to ask whether they have time for anything else in their lives. They must be "on" morning, noon and night. An endless diet of FaceBook, Twitter etc perhaps?
Just goes to show that being part of a social network.........
...........on the web is may be not such a clever idea.
"containing high levels of personal info gleaned from dossiers collated on social networking sites, press releases or company correspondence."
Much of the information about us that these scumbags use to attack us is info *we* have put out there *ourselves*. Richly ironic that our (very) human tendency to gossip about ourselves and others is being amplified and "megaphoned" around the whole planet in a way that is unique in human history, thus providing these criminals with rich pastures to graze in - particularly when planning attacks involving a significant element of social engineering.
And furthemore, what about the dog that has not barked?
..........We have not heard so much as a "woof" out of Mountain View so far, have we? When you consider that Apple went into bat recently (albeit somewhat slowly) for their partners it is striking that all we are hearing from Google is a deafening silence.
Re "Which patents exactly?" Yes, that is a point that has puzzled me......
....and I have done quite a bit of "clicking" trying to find out. Whilst I have no doubt that MS is (in common with the rest of "BigCorp") fully capable of behaving like a patent troll now and then the question remains, are they doing so on *this* occasion. I realise that this will not earn me any brownie points amongst some of the S-key dyslexics here at El Reg but without that information it is impossible to *know* whether that is the case this time. Microsoft may very well have acceptable/unacceptable motivation for being tight-lipped about which patents are involved but why are the ones (several of whom are big enough not to need to automatically bend over for MS) who are refusing to pay up not letting it be known what the alleged breeches are if they are confident of their case? PR is after all and integral part of this kind of how's your father normally - why not this time?
Yes, I see that several have remembered the rules concerning.......
..................The Great Satan From Redmond.
1. Microsoft do not make it clear that this or that service is *not* 100% guaranteed and do not make provision for customer compensation. You absolutely have to log on and howl - do not forget the $-sign next time.
2. Microsoft *do* make it clear that this or that service is *not* 100% guaranteed and *do* make provision for customer compensation. You absolutely have to log on and howl - do not forget the $-sign next time.
The 500 lb gorilla in the room is........
......affordable and adequate bandwidth. This is particularly true in the US where they are complaining (with good reason) that their connections are slower and more expensive than in Europe. However, the spare capacity in Europe is not much to boast about if we are all going to go "cloudy". It does not matter when you get down to the nitty gritty whether you are talking Google, Apple or Microsoft, the infrastructure is woefully inadequate if we really are talking about a paradigm shift here. This "solution" threatens to be *very* expensive and the telcos are not exactly going to bust their nuts investing the *huge* sums in infrastructure that will be necessary and in case the cloudy cognoscenti have not noticed there is not a lot of public money available for the present time, a situation that is not likely to change any time soon. So, to sum up, it is going to cost eyewatering amounts, is possibly going to be a touch insecure (to put it tactfully) and "BigCorp" is going to own your arse as far as your data is concerned. Anyone care to explain to me why this is such a wonderful idea?
Re "Missing the point"
You likely have a point there. As far as "under the bonnet" goes Apple may well have been a touch more dependent on Samsung than they were willing to admit. They may have realised that they had in a certain sense "farmed out" a bit to much and are now in the process of bringing some of it back in house, which I guess would make sense from their point of view. However, as others have said I do not think that Samsung are going to loose any sleep over this. Indeed Nokia and Microsoft may be smiling - AMOLED screens anyone?
Re Distrusting storage benchmarks run on Windows.
Given that the vast majority of punters installing this kit will be installing on a Windows system benchmarking it on a Windows based rig would seem to be reasonably logical, hmm? Benchmarking it on a setup that a majority, even amongst El Reg readers, will not be installing on would seem a touch eccentric? If, for example, CrystalDiskMark cannot be relied on to read accurately in Windows that would imply that any software running in a Windows setup on this drive would not deliver the read/write speeds recorded by the benchmarking tool which is itself only another software package. In other words if you benchmarked this drive on, let us say, a Linux based setup the figures you would obtain could not readily be related to the disks performance in a Windows pc. So, even if you are correct in believing that benchmarking tools run in Windows cannot be relied on (a contention that I regard as somewhat dubious) running them in any other system to test the drive could not be related to real performance with the OS that a majority of us use. To sum up, if you are correct your point is meaningless and if you are not correct then you have posted b****x.
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