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@Insane Reindeer Re. "Am I being too picky?"
The short answer is "no you are not". If camera quality is a key criteria for you and you can poke up with Sybian then the N8 is IMHO the best cameraphone on the market today as far as still photography is concerned. Precisely in fact the reason why I bought the N8 for Madame AF's birthday. The picture quality produced by that phone is amazing - I scored major league in the marriage brownie points stakes I can tell you!
Re: "Speak for yourself!"
I agree, the 7 inch form-factor is a very handy one. After all it has roughly the same external physical dimensions as a Kindle - great for reading and big enough for seeing some video etc.. I can very well see that the 10 inch tab has its place but that place is not on a crowded bus!
Might actually be genuine ordering misjudgement on the part of Amazon
The bundle is still available via Amazon from one of their partners for immediate delivery ("only three in stock - order soon"). It does appear as if the Transformer *bundle* has absolutely sold gangbusters. Although the launch announcements attracted a lot of attention and there were many good reviews, I don't think one can necessarily predict that a product will take off the way this one has. It is possible that even Amazon can get caught with its pants down when deciding how many to order from a producer! That it appears to have pissed off Cupertino in the US is perhaps another indicator of how well the product is doing - if the fruit company are nervous, it must be scoring *well* above average!
@DrXym Re "Wut"
I am quoting your post in full - it deserves it big time!
""No regulation is better than bad regulation. The fiat monetary system is possibly the greatest failing of the human race, and the bungled attempts at regulation would be laughable if they weren't so harrowing."
No it isn't. Regulation stops you from being fleeced, it gives you protections from dodgy banks and lenders who would exploit you, it is borne from painful financial collapses in the past.
And you still haven't addressed why bitcoin (which is also fiat btw) a safe investment as opposed to buying land or something else which is tangible.
"There is nothing inherently unsafe about Bitcoin, like any type of cash, its important to store it securely."
Yes there is. Maybe you haven't been paying attention but some guy just got hosed by a theft. If the thieves decided to cash-in that money then everyone else's investment will slump because sellers will outstrip buyers and the price will collapse. If there are no buyers and only sellers then bitcoins are virtually worthless. And that will be just a taster of what happens when the entire sysem collapses and EVERYONE wants out.
"As for collapse, my analysis is that in the long run, Bitcoin is probably less likely to collapse than any other currency. For now though I have not spent what I cannot afford to lose."
Well your analysis appears to be clouded by some peculiar libertarian notions. Even buying gold / silver in the current speculative bubble is probably a sounder bet. Or perhaps you should even invest in some tulip bulbs. I hear they are a surefire investment too."
I could not have expressed it better!
Re "I can see the problem"
I am not sure that I agree with your suggestion that there is some kind of contradiction between his involvement in BitCoin and his falling for some kind of social engineering scam that led to his computer being infected. Very many soc-eng scams try to persuade that you are going to get "rich, rich, rich!" and schemes like BitCoin try to persuade you that you are going to get......."rich etc". In other words, falling for a social engineering scam directed against your pc and falling for a (ponzi, or do I mean poncy? )scheme like BitCoin has certain similarities. IE. "A fool and his pc and/or money are soon parted".
Why is my sympathy limited?
Possibly because this kind of system is beloved of those who consider all taxation as iniquitous, something that infringes on their "liberty". These freedom-lovers frequently do not understand the difference between "liberty" and "taking liberties". I have zero sympathy for tax-evaders.
It would be a nice idea but........
.......there would unfortunately be a *very* high risk that such a reader-voting system to grade products would be thoroughly abused by fanbois/shills of all persuasions in an attempt to boost their "gang" or flame the company they hate the most. I regret that such a system would likely end up completely suborned by the aforementioned.
@Tom 7 Re "I look forward to"
To be honest if this basic idea looks to be a winner in the market place I am sure that "generic docks" will be produced. In fact I would be surprised if Asus themselves did not start to produce a range of such stations both with and without keyboards. It is such an obvious peripheral for a tab-pc that it is likely that there will be quite a market in them.
Now *that* is priceless!
".......Of course, capturing pictures and video on a 10.1in tablet makes as much sense as trimming your toenails with garden shears, ..........."
I also agree with the sound common sense informing your remark!
Whilst I feel that it is difficult to say whether this type of "bespoke" docking station solution with *built in* keyboard will be a really big seller I certainly feel that the docking/charging station (with extra ports) solution with your tab giving you the opportunity to connect keyboard and mouse if you want to will be a form-factor that a lot of people will appreciate. Kudos to Asus here, I am impressed. I am not ready to take the plunge yet - the next generations hardware (in the next eighteen months or so) will be even more convincing, and *then* yours truly will blow the dust of his wallet.
"Nokia sued Apple because Apple refused to pay what Nokia asked. No-one here knows the exact figures Nokia demanded, no-one can tell just how much they differed from the norm. They went to court to let the courts decide who was right. Commenters here pretending to know more than they do should keep quiet."
Right on Bro (as they used to say) - certain members of the cognoscenti here should confine their fairytales to bedtime reading for their kids.
@daemonoid Re Re "Practical problems"
The example I gave was really only intended as *one* illustration of a situation where only one computer each, in the pocket so to speak, would lead to what we can politely call "user conflict" back at the old homestead. I take your point that that the IT setup at home for "ordinary" people is something they look at rather differently from "us". However, the basic principle that many will have another machine at home (regardless of which form-factor we might see in our crystal balls) other than just each person's smart-mob is IMO likely to be more widespread than merely being confined to those of us of the geekish persuasion.
I forsee a certain practical problem here.
This is a very capable and impressive device, kudos to Moto for that. I take issue with the "replace your computer" line which appears to be very popular in the media at the present time. I have seen at least three articles along the lines of "will the smartphone kill the pc?" in major publications in the last week. Unless you are single there are certain practical problems - I shall mention one. I come home and plug my shiney into our home-theatre system to use it in "front room pc" mode. After a while my good lady settles down to surf a little from the comfort of her armchair. I then decide I want to spend an hour on the phone to my mates. She can then use hers I hear you cry, but hers is currently downloading this or that and cannot.......and so it goes. There will need to be at least one other form of computer in the house other than my and Madame AF's mobiles. Otherwise it becomes a question of how big a row with 'er indoors I want on a regular basis. I should also mention screen size - when I read an electronic book I want a six or seven inch form factor, not four poxy inches or so. Furthermore watching a film on a mob's screen is ridiculous. So please, when considering such questions, *do* take into account practical user issues - it isn't all about the spec sheet. The combination of ones mob and a, say, 7 inch tab/docking station connected to the telly at home is one that I can see being popular. However your phone as the *only* computer you have in the house? No, do not see it, for a whole shit load of practical reasons.
I know that it is not on main topic but I could not help getting that eyecrossing feeling when I read in the article that ratings agencies had downgraded Nokia's credit. The same agencies that gave that toxic shit from the US mortgage market AAA ratings? The same agencies that contributed big time to a global financial crisis a couple of years or so ago? The same agencies whose ratings amounted to downright fraud for which the taxpayer is paying through the nose for? Coming from that bunch of scum-buckets their "down-grade" almost makes me inclined to classify Nokia shares as buying opportunity!
Nice legs, shame about the face (price)
Even though HTC are a favourite of mine (both my current and previous droid mobs) the price they are asking (plus the lack of HDMI) make this a real bummer. At *that* price I expect all the usual ports *and* a basic docking station thrown in (with extra usbs etc.). With Asus showing the way I do not understand what HTC are playing at here (or Moto for that matter). I suspect that Asus however, with their transformer and slider tablets at sensible price-points (in relation to the current state of the market) are going to clean up.
I am most relieved that the author alerted us to his piece being "opinionated" .......
.......otherwise we might have thought that the manner in which the assertion.............
"The design borrows heavily from the iPhone's system, iOS, also used for the iPad. Cue grumblings that Microsoft has ripped off Apple again. These are justifiable,"
............was presented indicated that it was a statement of fact rather than a highly subjective allegation/opinion. My personal *opinion* is that they appear to have lifted it directly from the WP7 UI (a design that is not to my personal taste whatever the merits/demerits of the OS itself).
@mafoo Re "Well"
"Do you honestly think apple's highly paid developers and marketing department are sitting at the end off the approvals process denying yet another pull my finder app? Unlikely."
It is possible that you have a point. However, it does leave an impression that suggests that the company's highly paid image management people are rather falling down on the job.
Re: "Fixing the proble they created?"
Unless you have *very* severe reading difficulties old chap I do not see how you could conclude that anybody on this thread including myself is expressing *gratitude*.
To be fair.....
........it has to be admitted that Win7 is significantly more robust than previous incarnations, Security Essentials is also a worthwhile contribution to the cause and it has become increasingly clear over the last to or three years that MS has been devoting a *lot* of employee resources and wonga on what we might call "judicial activism" against those tosspots. That this should have been the situation at least a decade ago I freely concede, however better late than never.
Actually many companies including Moto *do* try to "educate" their customers.
The "customers" do not want to hear it. They do not want to know anything about RTFM all they want to do is whine and piss and moan if it doesn't "just work" without them having to do any joined up thinking *at all*. Why is it that virtually all support lines have to ask whether the equipment concerned is plugged into the wall socket (if it runs from a direct mains supply)? That explains what one is dealing with. God knows I have made enough mistakes in my time but really!
@Watashi re. Spy versus spy.
Very interesting post. It is perhaps indicative of the situation that Apple now find themselves in that they have become unusually keen on reaching for their lawyers. Whether it is patenting *very* generalised concepts designed to do little more than plant a series of legal minefields all over the mobile communications market space or picking quarrels with the others amongst the big boys like, of course, Samsung. When a company's reaction to challenging circumstances is to try and control the market by brute muscle (Microsoft and Intel in the nineties) or by a whole series of what can only be described as vexatious misuses of the patent system (Apple amongst others today), that is a company that is losing its way/confidence when it comes to innovation and leading the market.
Apple's cash pile must be a great comfort to them.
After all their magical new strategy of "if it moves, patent it or sue it" must be costing them an absolute fortune, lawyers being what they are.
By their support services shall ye know them.
I have to admit that I feel that I have been lucky having, so far, owned two HTC phones without them giving me any issues such that I have not had the experience that several here refer to and I have seen commented upon on other threads. My experience FWIW is that poor support/repair services seem to be the rule rather than the exception within consumer electronics, the general attitude being "sell and forget".
I have to admit that I am in two minds on this one. I cannot decide whether......
.........the gangsta-wannabees who dress like that or a bus company who wants to enforce a dress code on its passengers are the bigger bunch of knobheads.
Oh and BTW, does the bus company have plans to throw ladies with low cut blouses of the bus? Mind you if I were the driver I'd be inviting them *on to* the bus but that's another story.
I'll get my coat, got to catch a bus.
Well we are at least on the way to........
.......some kit that would cause me to blow the dust off my wallet. This is definitely a step forward and the pricing actually is reasonably keen IMO for something of the given quality in a *very* young market. I'll be waiting, probably another year. 2.5 GHertz/quad core, 2 Gb RAM, 64 Gb on board storage, Bluetooth, at least two USB ports (properly supported), 7 inch form-factor (coat pocket), charging and ports dock (without a keyboard - I'll choose my own) and a "retina" display. *Then* I'll be willing to pony up, in fact I would be willing to part with some serious wonga.
I think that Google could make a contribution here by......
.........refusing or restricting apps (free or paid for) that demand permissions that are totally unnecessary for the function that they allegedly perform. For example, why do so many wallpaper apps or ringtones need/demand permissions that mean they in practice would own your phone's arse? Those types of apps do not need administrator and/or communications permissions. Devs submitting apps that make such demands where there is no obvious functional need for the app to have that degree of system access should, at the very least, be facing some very blunt questions from Mountain View.
Common sense? Analysis?
I agree with you, but if you are hoping that you will get support amongst a certain proportion of the "cognoscenti" here at El Reg then your hopes are in vain. The degree of malicious whistling in the dark we see whenever this subject is mentioned is fairly obvious. They are not predicting what they *believe* will happen, they are predicting what they *hope* will happen.
We can look forward to......
......................a lot of postings based on malicious wishful thinking. I, personally speaking, have no idea how Nokia's deal with "The Great Satan From Redmond" will play out in reality. We will have to see, won't we? However, I have a very clear idea about how many of you *want* it to play out.
@+++ath0 re: Amazon. You may very well have a point here.,
We will just have to see how it turns out. It depends to a significant extent on how Amazon develop their app-store and whether the ease of use equation contra Amazons rep and relationship with their customers plays out. It will be interesting at any rate!
@+++ath0 re: "Google is unhappy?" Google may indeed as you say be...........
..........happy because their business model is based on apps as "ad-bait". However, it will be interesting to see what happens now with Amazon in the game. Amazon will most certainly strongly wish to *sell* as many apps as possible - wonder how happy Google will be if the devs start to decamp to Amazon? I have a gut feeling that the situation may be about to change.
No all those evil bastards at M$ (The Great Satan) do is......
1. Cooperate actively with internet security professionals.
2. Issue regular advisories themselves.
3. Issue regular updates/patches where known issues exist.
4. Provide one of the best AV packages on the market free, gratis (Security Essentials)
5. Actively cooperate with Jurisdictional authorities to trace, obtain the evidence, arrest and convict the criminals who engage in this kind of shite.
Nah, they don't do nuffin', fuck all really.
@a_been re "We havn't seen the license"
Indeed we have not seen the license which is precisely why I asked in my posting:
"Any way we can find out *where* in this license they feel that they are granted such rights?"
What makes me curious about this business is that *if* Apple ensured that they *did* purchase such rights then I am quite certain their legal dept would have ensured that the necessary clauses in the license agreement put the issue beyond any dubiety. That being the case why does Lodsys think that they have a case? They must have known that the devs would contact Apple the moment they received those letters and that it would indeed be "game over" as you put it *if* those rights were explicit in the license. The whole business is very peculiar.
It is a word whose misuse and ubiquity theses days normally makes.......
.........me cringe. However, when I saw that astonishing photograph I was, almost, tempted to say "that is aw***e". I resisted the temptation manfully and will content myself by saying that that is one of the most awe-inspiring images from space that I have ever seen. I congratulate the team behind the work.
Hmm, bit of a poser this one.
I can readily see that, by definition, the license that Apple have purchased must cover them, people selling Apple products (acting in effect as Apple's agents) and of course the end-point customer to whom these products are sold. I am absolutely no expert but I cannot quite see how such a license would cover third-party *producers* of goods and services designed to function with Apple products. Apple's interpretation would seem to suggest that anybody making anything that can be used in conjunction with Apple products is covered if Apple say they are covered (ie Apple say that they are a partner). Does anybody here have more of a clue and can explain this area of the law? I must admit that I am puzzled, Apple appears to be claiming very wide-ranging rights under this license, surely the right to name/protect third-party producers under the terms of *Apple's* license would have to be explicitly stated in said license? The devs after all not employed and paid by Apple to manufacture on Apple's behalf (like Foxcom is) goods which Apple then own and thereafter sell to customers directly or via third-party retailers, they are independent *producers*. Their products do not become Apple's property at any stage even though they are sold via the AppStore. Apple assert that they *are* explicitly granted such rights in this license. Any way we can find out *where* in this license they feel that they are granted such rights?
Well the "m.theregister" works fully for comments on HTC's........
.......stock browser at any rate. Doesn't in Opera mobile for some reason, just get that error message others have referred to. Never mind, the "Sense" browser is perfectly adequate for following El Reg mob. Yay! Now I can post from the bus - God, when did I become a geek? Are there support groups where you can get help? "My name is Arctic Fox and I am........."
Posted from my desire z (at last)
It is a bit silly to try and be "smart" in that way...........
.........replying to a posting where I specifically say that Mac-owners *should* install AV and malware detection, hmm? I was simply (as you were perfectly well aware) saying that Mac owners should not any longer believe that they are in any way immune. The "mood music" from Cupertino on this subject has always been that OSX is intrinsically superior to Windows in this area - and there is no point in pretending that is not the impression that they have tried to give. That they recommend installing AV and malware detection anyway should come as no surprise - their legal dept would have insisted that they did for obvious reasons, whatever impression of the OS their marketing dept would wish to give.
It was always going to happen. Mac-owners have been warned for years......
........by the rest of us. The assertion that OSX is *intrinsically* far more robust than other OSes was always a chimera. Many of us have pointed out for a very long time that the main reason for the Mac's "immunity" was largely that the villains couldn't be bothered devoting the time and the resources to targeting Apple's machines when they have a vastly larger and thereby vastly more profitable "market" with Windows machines. The Macs are now a more profitable target, there are "attack kits" becoming available specifically aimed at the OSX and we can expect to see far more of this. I would strongly recommend to any Mac owner that he/she takes this seriously, ignores Cupertino's propaganda and protects their Mac properly. AV and the like *are* available for Macs, flaming well use them and the same large helping of common sense that we Windows users have to employ.
@Naughtyhorse re "oh dear oh dear"
"..........required only that an attacker know the date of birth and email address associated with a targeted user's account..............."
Actually the words that came to my mind were "shagging contest" and "brothel". All I can say other than that is *unfuckingbelievable*.
Its dark out there and Intel is.......
.......whistling very loudly. Whatever ones opinion of Microsoft is it is fairly obvious that they did not decide to go for an ARM version of Win 8 just for giggles. They regard it as a strategic imperative in context with small but increasingly powerful mobile devices. With coding Win 8 for both ARM and Intel architecture MS are taking an each-way bet to ensure as far as they can that they remain relevant whilst the current paradigm shift is in progress. To paraphrase an old and famous quotation what we are seeing in the mobile devices market is not the beginning of the end, nor even the end of the beginning. It is quite simply the very beginning of something that is likely to be a pretty bump ride for a lot of companies. Bluntly put MS does not give a shit about whether or not Intel misses the boat, what they care about is that *they* do not miss the boat, and if that requires ARM and at some stage in the future saying "vaya con dios" to Intel then that is precisely what MS will do. All fair in love and business and all that jazz.
"Have you considered that it's the sane ones who'll leave and and the idiots who will stay."
Not at all unlikely IMO. From the article:
".................In the first week of downtime we did not really see any major change in sales or trades... However from the second week................".
It was not until the end of the first week that the scale of Sony's eff-up became clear *and* that the nature of the info-theft was rather more serious than Sony were prepared to admit to. A significant proportion of those bailing out may indeed have done so for entirely sane reasons - like not wanting a risk that their bank ac could be emptied, now or at some time in the future if Sony screwed up again!
"Unless you enjoy eternal fan noise"
And if you wish to enjoy eternal iPhan noise then you only have to browse this type of thread!
......since you can neither activate nor update your iPad without access to a Mac or a PC. When the day comes that we get the Mac OS and Win 8 on tablets - then we will be able to talk about "replacement".
Re A little birdy told me.
Given the accerating pace of development in this area it is entirely possible that the move to 14 nm may come rather quicker than one otherwise would have expected. As for ARM-based technology I think we can be reasonably certain that someone somewhere is working on it! What about a 7 in form factor tab, 2.5 Ghz quad core running Win 8 or OSX (according to taste) with the type of battery life you mentioned? Now *that* would indisputably be a proper tablet *pc*!
I have said it before and I'll say it again........
............without *any* glasses bundled this is in practice, sold as is, a *2D* TV - and a rather pricey 42 inch 2D telly at that. Fortunately we upgraded to a 55 in Sammy just before the producers started this shell game with 3D tellys. We won't in all likelihood upgrade again until they get OLED fixed - ie a genuine advance in display tech that is actually worth paying for.
Just goes to show.
We should be very grateful that Intel did not succeed in driving AMD out of business a decade or so ago by methods which (if I ruled the world) would definitely mean jail-time. Anyone think that Intel would be putting this amount of sustained effort (read money) into innovation if the continued existence of a significant rival didn't force them to?
I'll get the three original movies on blu-ray but.....
.........Darth Lucas can get stuffed if I am parting with a penny piece for those three abortions/computer game advertisements he called prequals.
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