2236 posts • joined 6 Nov 2009
Well, I'm hoping they come with a free bumper.
To ensure that any dropped babies are protected from the consequences of parents holding them the wrong way.
I am a member of the EULAs, who are they I hear you ask?
The Extremely and Unbelievably Late Adopters, and it looks like that is not going to change any time soon. The following list is the reason why:
1. USB (and chargeable through it, stuff proprietary chargers)
2. HDMI out.
3. micro-SD slot (no memory expansion, no sale).
4. 3G option available as well as a Wifi only model.
5. Customer changeable battery.
With the honourable exception of Asus' offering they all fall down on two or more of the above (as far as I can see). I have just taken a look at Samsung's new 7.7 inch offering (it is the 7 - 8 inch form factor I am most interested in) - no fucking HDMI. I have never yet owned a tab and it looks like I am never going to own one until the OEMs stop farting around. At least ensure that there is a dock available with the necessary connectivity even if you cannot squeeze it all into the table itself (that is what Asus have done - USBs on the dock). What the hell the Android OEMs are doing I do not know, I want them to sell me a tablet - with everything on that list. Until they make that tablet in that form factor my wallet (and I would be willing to part with some serious wonga) will continue to gather dust.
I agree with your point about *current* market share.
It probably is no more than about a quarter at the moment. However I would point out that going from 2 - 3% of the market at around about this point in 2010 to somewhere about 25% now in 2011 is a fairly remarkable jump. How it is going to pan out in the next year or so and what effect Win8 may or may not have in tablet space is of course another matter - my crystal ball needs a firmware upgrade.
RE: "Please get the facts straight before bashing patents AGAIN - bored now!"
You don't come here often, do you old chap?
I think that they *have* "missed" something.
Nowhere in my post did I say that it was necessarily a design flaw. I would have thought however, that a company as famously "particular" as Apple would have ensured that there was some form of random "batch-checking" of manufactured phones (independent of their "fabber") that gave them a reasonably reliable picture (statistically speaking) of what they could expect, such that they were working on a fix from the get-go? It does indeed surprise me that this appears to have caught Apple on the hop. They have after all built their reputation on the quality of their hardware, have they not? That some duff parts may have got into the supply-chain may very well be the explanation (or at least part of the explanation) for this. That however does not explain why this appears to have come as a big surprise to Apple.
It is to be hoped that in the event that it *is* duff components in *some* 4S phones.......
...........that the unlucky customers (however many/few there are) do not have to wait as long as American purchasers of defective first gen iPod nanos have had to - they are only now going to be compensated after a wait of five to six years (ironically enough the issue was faulty batteries -:P).
Apple are of course far from being the only manufacturer to have skeletons in their after-sales closet but given that their marketing lays such huge emphasis on the build-quality of their kit (and they charge accordingly) they must expect to "get some pepper" when issues like this arise.
RE: "...........one or two of the highly dedicated Android lovers.......
...............from around here posting at least half of them."
Posting accusations of FUD-posting in the form of AC-protected FUD? I do hope that was deliberate irony and not a complete failure to see the contradictions in what you wrote and the way you wrote it.
I have to say I am rather surprised.
The Apple forums indicate very strongly that whilst the problem is not hugely widespread amongst 4S owners it is not *quite* the vanishingly small percentage that one or two here are suggesting. Given that the iPhone has been the market leader on battery-life for quite some time (typically 10 - 15% more than comparable rivals, depending on whose tests you believe), I am very surprise that Cupertino missed this one - especially since precisely that aspect of the phone has been one of their major marketing points. Never mind, the next time an iPhone owner passes remarks about the battery-life of our Android phones..... :-P
"This relationship is over, I think both of you accept that"
When it comes to describing how impressed I am with mighty intellectual capacities of the legal profession, words fail me.
Now *that* is genuinely exciting.
Stable containment has always been the bugbear given the chaotic behaviour of magnetic fields under those conditions. If they really have begun to get a handle on this then we may finally actually see usable fusion power in our lifetimes.
Is it possible that his reality disconnect..................
..................is so profound (bordering on the pathological) that he has actually convinced himself of this?
Then perhaps Cupertino could lead the way...........
"If so then it's exactly what many people have feared: that the devices we have today are being deliberately crippled to avoid patent disputes."
.................and they could begin by ceasing to be part of the problem even if they do not yet feel ready to be part of the solution (wishing naturally enough to keep their guard up if other major players do not reciprocate). That would be a start, a start that in fact could have a lot of influence for the better - if they chose to. If major players like Apple moved from judicial offence to limited judicial defence where *genuinely* necessary that would at any rate be a beginning.
Indeed that particular piece of Australian slang was explained to me.........
..........many years ago when an old chum who had emigrated to Oz told me through gales of laughter that when their new neighbours invited them to an evening barbie and asked them what they had been doing in their new house that day he had explained that he and the wife had spent the whole afternoon rooting in the cellar. The stunned (and possibly impressed) silence alerted them both to the fact that that word had a whole new meaning in Australian English!
RE: "Not entirely true"
I think that you have a point here, in fact I would go further. What if it is the case that a very large proportion of iPad purchasers buy it because they perceive it as a fine and stylish media consumption device first and foremost and not because all of them are dyed-in-the-wool iPhanboys? However much fun the rest of us may have from time to time portraying them as such! Therein lies the potential rub from Cupertino's viewpoint. If it is the case (and I am sure it is) that a significant percentage of their pad customers are not committed Apple fans per se, they just regard the iPad (in their opinion) as the best media consumption device on the market then we may have a new situation. If these customers are in many cases making a *pragmatic* choice when buying or planning to buy their next or first pad then the "Fire" suddenly becomes rather more of a threat to the iPad then one otherwise would have expected. If the punters perceive the "Fire" as of very decent quality at a very attractive price that provides (in their opinion) a user experience not *too* far short of the iPad in the context of a media consumption device then some of them may very well choose the Fire rather than the iPad. In the end it is all about customer perception - and that is something that is not easy to predict.
RE: "You're assuming that the threesome was the husband's idea"
Indeed I was and concluded that his reaction was (to paraphrase St Theresa) an example of "more tears shed over prayers that are answered than those which go unheard" because he discovered he could not cope with his fantasy when he experienced it in reality. However, you do indeed have a point in the sense that if it *was* his other half that, so to speak, put him on the spot and he just could not handle it then I have rather more sympathy for him. Under those circumstances it may well have been the case that the emotional fall-out of a situation that he did not ask for provoked the violence. Whatever the truth is here I am relieved that nobody was too badly injured - such situations have led to far worse outcomes.
Am I being impossibly oldfashioned here by suggesting.................
...........that he might have concentrated on keeping his wife happy in bed without "assistance"? As in showing the lady a decent amount of enthusiasm and consideration - consistently? I have to say that if you have to "call in reinforcements" you have rather lost the plot with your other half.
"Barclays Capital has told IT contractors and temp staff.........
.............that they have to accept a 10 per cent cut in their rates."
Amazing how these (w)bankers appear to be of the opinion that everyone else should accept cuts in their remuneration except them. Also fascinating that they do not seem to make the connection between this kind of "cost control" and their websites going down the kahzi regularly. This degree of short-term stupidity, greed and arrogance is on a scale damn near unique even compared with the rest of the business world's leading managerati. When the revolution comes and they're put up against the wall can I, please, please be allowed to lead the firing squad?
That is impressive
Improving the performance contra power consumption equation by a spread of most of an order of magnitude is very impressive. Intel reckons its low power challenge will be available in 2013 according to the roadmap they announced recently - they are going to have to go some to match the accelerating development of the ARM SoCs.
"...........they are all dedicated to Apple’s continued success............."
In common with many other examples of BigCorp's managerati throughout big business they are so dedicated to the company that they have to have large amounts of wonga thrown at them in addition to their already sky-high salaries.
Not sure that that is quite the case.
"Redmond has had an ongoing feud with the developers at ChevronWP7 ever since the group put out a jailbreak for Phone 7 a year ago, allowing users to run applications …"
AFAIK Redmond's relationship to ChevronWP7 has been reasonably constructive for quite some time. They released a hack (8 - 10 months ago perhaps?) that meant WP7-phone owners could download and install a pre-release version of MS' "NoDo" update and Redmond warned (I believe it was language files issues although I am not sure) that it might result in the phone being bricked when the "real" update arrive OTA. Chevron's people had some meetings with MS engineers, went away and built a fix for those who had installed unofficially and provided it OTA with Redmond's blessing. I am not saying that they invite each other to family reunions but the expression "ongoing feud" seems a little too creative.
Currently no 3G and no storage expansion?
They may, or may not, turn up in future? Why would I buy now then Moto? As far as I am concerned there is a basic check list for what should be on tablets in the medium to high end segment.
1. USB (and chargeable through it, stuff proprietary chargers)
2. HDMI out.
3. micro-SD slot (no memory expansion, no sale).
4. 3G option available as well as a Wifi only model.
5. Customer changeable battery.
As far as I am concerned lack of these facilities is a deal breaker. So far Sony, Samsung, Moto, HTC etc have all managed to spoil what would otherwise in many cases be very good kit by not including some of the above. Sony's new table recently reviewed here? No HDMI and no USB charging on what would have a damn good tab. Sammy's new 7-incher lacks.............no I got to stop. The OEMs just wind me right up with their unerring capacity to *almost* get it right.
"The jury is still out on...............
.....................the effects of stress on the taste of meat, but some maintain that the strain on cattle of being packed into a container, shipped to an abattoir (with a trip to a massive feedlot first for final fattening) and then being killed in an industrial manner makes beef less tasty, and also more difficult to preserve."
I imagine it ruins the cow's whole day as well.
On a more serious note both humane principles and actually economic common sense (if one thinks outside the box a bit) would suggest that the slaughterer coming to you, doing the job on the spot and shipping carcasses rather than live animals (much easier and the number of vehicles needed, numbers carried per container volume, far fewer - cheaper, less traffic) would be a win-win on both accounts.
RE: "Carriers are bullies"
I do not disagree. However that problem is primarily driven by the lack of *genuine* competition amongst the carriers in the US market which, because of that markets importance to the producers, means that the carrier's behaviour in the US has a very big effect on the world-wide phone market. That problem has to be tackled by the US competition authorities (well we can always hope), it will not be in any way ameliorated by insufficient competition in the world-wide phone *producer* market.
@Jack Prichard RE: "I disagree". I agree (with you)
The problem with the reverberating beat that one often gets on a thread covering this kind of topic of "do you wanna be in my gang, my gang, my gang, do wanna be in my gang..." is that the issue of what serves us *all* as customers regardless of which os we prefer tends to get drowned out by the tribal choruses from various points of the compass. If we actually consider *analytically* what serves our interests as consumers we realise immediately that our *objective* economic interests are *not* coincident with the interests of the manufacturer of our favourite kit. It is first and foremost in *their* interest to b** f**k the competition by any means they can get away with and, if they succeed, proceed to b** f**k us some customers. This point is so obvious that it is a wonder that it needs repeating regularly. We need as many players as this (very rapidly) growing market can support. For that reason I hope (says through gritted teeth) that Apple continue to do at least reasonably well, that Android does the same, that RIM succeed in getting their act together again and, yes, that Nokia have decent success with their "Nokiasoft" phones. That would be in the interests of *all* of us.
BTW I run a Desire Z :)
Agree with your final point with one modification.
Given that it is too easy to cook the books with regard to *profit* (net or gross) the fine should be based on gross *turnover* in the panel division concerned - very difficult to evade/falsify. How about an entire year's turnover for the first offence?
Re: "....the dumbest fucking list........."
"No, those aren't the opinions of mere fervid fanbois; they're the considered conclusions of 1,000 gaming-industry executives".
Not surprising its dumb it is after all the opinion of a thousand or so managerial/executive types - and the smartphone/pad that type usually owns is a......?
There does appear to be much to like about this tab but............
"For me, you can't beat the no-nonsense connectivity of an HDMI port or full-size USB 2.0 socket, and so I'm left feeling Sony deserves a bit of kick for not fitting them when the bulbous rear of the Tablet S clearly has the space. ®"
...............there is no flaming excuse for this. No HDMI, you have to use a proprietary charger and no proper USB when they could have fitted one. I do not understand what the mindset is here. With those things in place this would likely have been one of the very best tablets on the market bar none (the iPad included) - what is it with some of the OEMs?
Indeed I am relieved in fact to see that someone else was struck by the same thought.
Whatever my opinions might be of Apple's products and/or their marketing strategy I have never experienced the impulse to wish Mr Jobs any personal harm. In the same light I regard his passing as an intensely private moment that I do not feel that I have the right to share. What was it that that Dylan Thomas wrote?
"Do not go gentle into that good night,
Old age should burn and rave at close of day;
Rage, rage against the dying of the light."
That moment should have remained something that he only shared with those closest to him - shame on those who have chosen to "Face-Book" it.
I am just wondering when this preposterous and destructive game.......
...........of musical patents is going to stop. Unless any one of these corporates actually believes that they are going to emerge as the "winner" by going the courtroom route then the industry better sit down and work out a framework for a deal. It really ought to have begun to dawn on them that any "victory" in the courtroom will likely be the very definition of a "pyrrhic victory". "If we are victorious in one more battle with the Romans, we shall be utterly ruined."
"Leo Apothker who pocketed a nice payout on his way out of the door"
He had responsibility for a monumental cluster-fxxk and still gets his golden goodbye. A finer example of the capacity of the "managerati" to take the piss out everyone: shareholders, employees, customers, business partners - and still get away with helping themselves from the till on the way out the door would be hard to find. Until those bastards are actually subject to consequences related to the way they do their jobs of the kind that we "little people" have to accept (you know, like sacking without notice or pay where appropriate) we are just going to see history repeating itself again and again.
"They're going to be used for entertainment purposes only"
"Entertainment only"? Oh dear, Cupertino is not going to be pleased.
A calmly argued assessment of what went wrong.
One can argue about the details but what is indisputable is that Nokia had done it to themselves well before Elop was on the horizon as the new CEO. He took a decision which many disagree with but the decision is taken. Basically he has got 2012 to demonstrate that he took *a* correct decision (even if many feel it was not *the* correct decision). If by the end of next year it is not obvious that Nokia is boxing on the front foot then there will IMO be little hope for the future. I hope for Nokia's sake that it does work out and for all our sakes as customers regardless of which os we personally prefer. A market with three major players will, by definition, be more competitive than a market with only two where a misstep by one of them can leave a "winner" owning the market place to the detriment of us *all* as customers. That is after all pretty much what happened in the nineties leaving, ironically enough, you-know-who owning the pc-market.
@Tony S RE "Translation" It is indeed a very serious problem - the attention seeking.......
...........politician that is. I have in my lifetime seen more examples of bad, poorly thought out and counter-productive legislation "birthed" by some politico or other than almost any other source of changes to law/public policy (other than the results of the special interest lobbying industry of course). I won't bother to list the potential horrendous consequences of this idiot's proposals, it is obvious from the thread that posters are well aware of the damage that such stupidity could do. There are few more pernicious sources of bad law than a politician with a hard-on for personal publicity and a pathological need to be seen to being do something - anything, however bloody stupid it is.
@dotdavid RE: "Hmmm".
It is very strange. What ever view one takes of Apple Corp their marketing dept has a reputation (understandably) for being one of the smartest in the retail sector. This would appear to be a major fail inasmuch as the association with the Mugabe regime is, frankly speaking, poisonous.
@andreas koch: Does not work old chap
In contrast to the Great Satanic Beast Of Redmond (who will at least permit you to pay extortion money) the Demon Spawn of Cupertino do not license, they are famous for it in fact. If they decide to take you out, there is no point in offering to pay. They are only interested in ensuring that you "sleep with the fishes".
The Curious Case of the SD-Card
According to Anandtech:
"Unlike the 800 however the 710 features a microSD card slot that can accommodate up to a 16GB card (24GB total)."
Have you any idea what is going on here Andrew? Why on earth has Nokia not put an SD-slot in the 800 when they have in the (relatively speaking) budget 710?
The icon? Well although it is IT it definitely deserves a question mark!
What a wonderful image.
"................they made people physically sick at their concerts. So the Kevins have something in common: they’re both sonic terrorists."
That's a keyboard you've cost me!
Oh God please. "Rebekah Wade's naughty bits"
Get that image out of my head, aaargh.
Lovely, just what we all want.
All right, temporary contracts all round, no chance of a permanent job - yeah, way to go. This is just another employer-responsibility-avoidance model. Let's keep the prols hungry, frightened and above all obedient. If I have misunderstood this (which is quite possible) I would be delighted if someone would explain why my cynical response is mistaken.
@KrisMac Interestingly enough they are using it.
Rather like neurologists mapping the brain (complex network by definition) economists *are* applying non-linear dynamics to complex systems such as global production/trade. Problem is of course that specific concrete effects/outcomes are, almost by definition, very difficult to predict in such systems. From what I have read they are in a position to model generalised "what-ifs" to produce scenarios but they are a long way from being able to offer prescriptive predictions. Even then of course one reaches the point where politics and economics interact. Who would be in a position to tell the Thai government that some of those factories "should" be relocated to another country? Any economist offering advice of that kind would very rapidly be accused of seeking to impose Stalinist central planning on a global basis - even if his/her advice was well grounded in such vulnerabilities as we see here in the example of hard-drive production.
@Geoff Thompson Re "Flawed"
Agreed, the inclusion of Win8 in this kind of data set is ridiculous. They have no data from any sales of Win8, no pre-order data, no shipping data, nothing nada. How on earth one can pretend that such a prediction is anything other than *literally* guesswork is beyond me. Currently, for all we know, Win8 will be a complete failure or an utter triumph for MS or anything on a sliding scale in between those two extremes. The analyst industry appear to love making complete and utter fools of themselves.
@Red Bren RE: "Picking off the small players"
I respectfully point out that Samsung recently settled with MS - hardly a small player. I do not know what MS have got in those patents and I do not for one moment seek to defend predatory behaviour. I am just pointing out that it is not only the "little boys" who are paying up. Why that might be I have no idea.
"Fondle something other than a mobe"
Do they have the time or the inclination for other interactions?
Which Wildfire are you talking about?
It surely cannot be the Wildfire that HTC got showered with praise for because it brought a level of build quality to the sub-£300 price point that had not been seen at what was then regarded as the low-price end of smartphone space? Or the same Wildfire that was the very first phone to have Wifi at that price point? The same phone that a large number of reviewers described as a break-through in terms of the specs on what was then an entry level phone pricewise - that Wildfire? I do not know which piece of shit you bought but it cannot possibly be the same Wildfire as the one I bought as my introduction to "smarphonery".
I am trying to work out why Steve Jobs......
........apparently felt that once Apple had produced a smartphone OS nobody else thereafter had the right to produce another new one. Apart from anything else one would have to be braindead to confuse iOS and Android. The latter is very clearly *not* a copy of the former.
@sheep++; Carriers should indeed be the first up against the wall etc etc.
However, the unlocked price will undoubtedly come down some in the months after release although for the reasons I have already posted on this thread I will not personally be buying one.
I have to say that I agree.
When you consider what one values about the Android OS I have to say that no available memory expansion and you cannot change the battery on a phone that is priced over five hundred pounds (we are supposed to throw it away when the battery's knackered?) does rather take the shine off the system's flagship. I was interested to see what the latest Nexus would be offering but I have to say that my interest headed south rapidly when I saw these aspects of the specs.
@JustaKOS I think that the gentleman is dealing to some extent in semantics.
"if the attack, no matter what form it takes, is instigated by another state and is so serious that the victim would be justified in using destructive force to curtail it, then there is implicitly a state of war between them."
That indeed is the nub of the issue. Is a state going to launch a cyber-attack which could cause significant damage (albeit without causing human casualties in the *direct* sense) on another state who *does* have the technology to reply in kind - likely not, a sort of new style MAD scenario. However, what if state A (believing that it can conceal the source of the attack) launches an attack on state B (who whilst not having "cyber capacity" *is* in a position to respond militarily ) which causes a great deal of damage and state B *does* succeed in identifying the culprit? How will state B respond, especially if the attack is ongoing and continuing to do more and more damage? The only option state B would have to defend itself might be a military response. The fact of the matter is that one can imagine several logical scenarios (of which mine is only one) where a cyber-attack would *lead to* actual large scale casualties.
This is very worrying as a sign for the future.
We are facing the possibility that "authorities" public or private will use the new social media as a means of pursuing/persecuting somebody they do not like (for what ever reason). This is only one of the reasons why I am *very* bloody careful what I put on the web. If you knew my real name you could of course "google" me. However, the only thing you would discover would be where I had done my degree and what subject I took - which is one reason why the only personal things I have said about myself here is what my "trade" is and which country I live in. That certain people are interested in social media as a way of reintroducing the stocks as a punishment (without inquiry or trial) is not something that surprises me in the slightest.
"The bog bike can reach maximum speeds of around 50mph..............."
Try in on the result of several lagers and a curry vindaloo - reckon it might achieve escape velocity under those conditions.
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