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@Twilkins: I really think old chap that you should have read my post more carefully.
"Ignoring all the feature phones and all the smartphones *significantly* under £400 we arrive at the following top ten."
I made it quite clear that I had done that in order to get a comparison between phones in the *upper price segment* which is where the Lumia 800 is - albeit at the lower end of that segment. Comparing like with like in the financial sense you understand. That was the point of my list with regard to those phones for which punters are willing to plonk roughly £400 or more on the table for their newest shiny.
RE: "crikey. Razr coming up fast there"
It is isn't it? Mind you I am not exactly surprised it does appear to be very fine kit and has attracted some very favourable reviews on a number of serious web-sites including, natch, Reghardware. The one that does surprise me a bit given the problems that RIM has had lately is their highest end offering at number 4. I'm not dissing the phone you understand it is just that they have been in some fairly heavy weather in recent times and that does not exactly help when trying to sell a device in that price segment! As far as the Lumia goes this list would seem to suggest that it is doing all right albeit not near well enough yet to give Nokia any reason to feel that they are yet out of the woods.
The information currently available does seem rather conflicting.
On the one hand we have major carriers claiming that the Lumia 800 is doing well (not just in the UK but in Holland, France and Germany) and on the other we have this survey which says the opposite. I took a look just now at Amazon in their sim free mobile phone category and chose to sort under bestsellers. Ignoring all the feature phones and all the smartphones *significantly* under £400 we arrive at the following top ten. I do not get the impression that the Lumia is doing quite as badly as this survey would suggest although it is clearly not "setting the world alight". Other than that this little list does appear to confirm that Sammy has a great deal to smile about!
1. Samsung I9100 Galaxy S II 16 GB (Black)
2. Galaxy Nexus 16GB
3. Samsung I9100 Galaxy S II 16 GB (White)
4. BlackBerry Bold 9900
5. Apple iPhone 4S 16GB Black
6. HTC Sensation XE
7. APPLE iPhone 4 16 GB
8. Nokia Lumia 800 (Black)
9. Motorola RAZR
10.Apple iPhone 4 16GB Black Factory Unlocked
RE: "Plus, if we could ship all the religious nutters into opposite corners...............
................ of earth 2.0 we might get some peace and quiet for a while."
It would be heavenly wouldn't it? However, they would make that extra effort to travel, regardless of how long it took, to bang on your door on Sunday morning. Just when your listening to your main man Lionel singing "Easy Sunday morning" you open the door to hear "we've come to give you a message from Glod (thank you Terry)" - they just don't get the message themselves do they?
@Chad H. Ah yes, the good old "cut your nose of to spite your face approach".
"They should have followed Qantas's union negotiation example.......And just threatened to shut it down if not agreed."
Oh I see, as simple as that hmm? You are comparing a dispute between a company and a trades union with a dispute with the government of (still) one of the most powerful nation states on earth? The US authorities would, not unnaturally have assumed they were bluffing and said "go ahead" and if they were bluffing their bluff would have been called. Of course if they had not been bluffing and had actually tried to go ahead and do that (with the consequent *massive* financial losses) I predict that the shareholder rebellion would have cost the entire board their jobs. Though in reality of course it would not have gotten that far because DK would have ended up with *both* the US *and* the German governments on their arses and would have had to back down from *that* position so quick you would have been able to measure their doppler shift.
I'm afraid that I can't let you........
..............think that Dave.
It is a regular horror story. However we know what is likely to happen...........
.............they'll still get their golden goodbyes, there will be absolutely no question of sacking them without compensation (which is what would happen in equivalent circumstances to us mere mortals) and they will probably be employed by another company in the future. The "Managerati" look after their own - because they all know that it might/will be their turn at some time in the future.
@Efros. Forced to listen to their drinks cartons playing the same tune.......
............again and again and again and again.
I am a little puzzled.
"Apple will likely assert that the patched versions still violate claims 1 and 8 of US Patent No. 5,946,647,"
Aren't you rather assuming that HTC and Google are incapable of coming up with a fix that avoids Apple's patent? Or are you assuming that whatever the fix is Apple will sue whether or not the fix in reality still breaches their patent? The ITC *has* rejected the rest of Cupertino's claims from its original suit, dated March 2010 (a total of nine alleged breaches not upheld by the commission) and it seems to me that as long as the fix is competent there is a reasonable likelihood that HTC will win through. If they do it will be a lot harder for Apple to sue the other OEMs over the same patents.
RE: "Ewww". I am looking foward with great anticipation to El Reg.......
............reporting the release of the iClap 3 - the news would go viral immediately.
Weeell, I think that is a touch over the top.
The moment I saw "Kindle" in the headline I clicked to read the article operating on the assumption that the book was scarcely going to be part of the Gutenberg project. I think that most would have assumed that it was "pay per view"? I would argue that it is far more of a real world problem where a newspaper or a special interest site promo something without revealing their financial involvement.
@dognolegs. Completion of contract old chap?
AT&T reached an agreement with Deutsche Telekom and signed on the dotted line. Part of such agreements is a fee to be paid by the one party if the other party "fails to complete". For reasons for which DT cannot be held liable AT&T has withdrawn from their agreement thus making them liable for the $4bn fee, the size of which was stipulated as part of the original agreement. AT&T on this occasion is just having to pay up for their own misjudgement in betting that they would succeed in scamming something close to recreating the old Bell monopoly past the competition authorities in the US. They fucked up and they are having to pay for it.
I can't see the............
I suppose I should not bite but I will.
Compared to the MBA it has:
1. Higher res and larger screen
2. Better cpu
3. All the connectivity options (industry standard) you can shake a stick at.
4. Same price as the MBA
It does not look anything like the MBA and there major differences (for the better IMO) with regard to specs. We expect a higher standard of troll here at El Reg, please try harder next time
@Peter Gathercole: An interesting aside?
Pardon? We read in the article as well:
"The name Majel comes from Majel Barrett-Roddenberry, the actress best known as the voice of the Federation Computer from Star Trek."
Best known as?
For those of us who remember when Star Trek was first broadcast by the BBC in (if memory serves) '68 Majel Barret is *always* Nurse Chapel first and foremost. That she contributed much more afterwards is something we of course honour her for. Majel Barett was a great lady - let us not rob her of the kudos for one of the roles in the classic series that are remembered by many of us with *great* affection.
Firing on all thrusters.......
...........he is not.
Law of unintended consequences. In the same fashion that suing Samsung.........
.............all over known space has contributed to raising Samsung's brand profile it is possible that this acquisition might also have unintended consequences.
"Apple might like its very own chips and flash at some point, thereby removing all Samsung stuff from its products."
This will likely result in Samsung investing even harder in mob/tab production and sales in order to shift their own "stuff" in addition to selling it to other OEMs.
May I be permitted to correct this report a touch?
"iOS users who fondle more than a slab now *and then* have an app to help them report the fact"
@Khaptain A most apposite question.
The answer for the US was about 30,000 or so total gun related deaths in 2010 of which a little over 50% were suicides. Thus approximately 12,000 or so due to deliberate action or accident. If we exclude self-harm it still means that about 4 times as many people die as result of a gun being discharged by another party than as a result of "distracted driving". It is instructive that politicians rush to legislate in the latter area (and others like it) but will not touch anything which can be characterised by the NRA as anti-gun legislation with the thin end of a very long bargepole. As far as guns are concerned they are flag waving libertarians, anything else (except of course BigCorp's sacred right to make as much money as possible unimpeded) and suddenly the joys of social authoritarianism overwhelm them.
RE: "This is precisely why.."
That is indeed precisely why. When one reads..........
"driver of the pickup truck had sent and received 11 text messages in the 11 minutes before the accident, and that the final message was received right before the pickup ran into the truck-tractor."
...........it is almost necessary to read it a couple more times to get ones head round how lethally stupid the driver was. If we do not want the state to "take responsibility for" (=control) even more of our everyday actions then we better bloody well take responsibility ourselves. That kind of idiocy simply gives the lobbyists and the politicians more to work with. It makes it even harder to fight off the desire of some politicos to wave their legislative dicks around when so called adults behave the way that lad did.
@Destroy All Monsters Or maybe..........
RE:"Rip off Britain"
"Why does Britain have to pay £551 for the 32GB version + keyboard when in the states they pay around £400 ($499 + $149). "
If you take a look at that, about two thirds of it is British VAT with the "rip-off" being about fifty quid or so. I do not defend *that* mark-up but it is not quite so bad as its seems.
RE: "You are Barry Shitpeas and ICMFP."
Don't bother, he'll never pay up.
I am dead impressed.
I'm not sure how to estimate the number of orders of magnitude they have succeeded in shrinking this equipment's physical size by but it must be huge (so to speak). Just for laughs imagine Sammy marketing a 7 inch tab (Galaxy SXII. Marketing slogan: "Your quantum pocket".) based on this kind of tech in about 2030 (always assuming that Cupertino has stopped suing them by then of course -:P).
Something for everybody here and I can't myself really quarrel with the selection. Must say that the Razor is indeed a beauty. What in fact strikes me about this is the choice of genuinely good quality phones at a fair range of price points. Doesn't matter which os you prefer there is some decent kit available, be interesting to see what 2012 brings us.
RE: "I see as movie in the works"
"Claws" perhaps? Or maybe "Resident Crustacean"?
No, no. I'm going Chinese.
All I need is a 2 cubic metre capacity deep-fryer, 1.5 cubic metres of soya oil, 200 litres of batter and possibly 50 litres or so of sweet n' sour sauce. Oh, and about 250 kg of fried rice - anyone got a *really* big wok I can borrow?
@AdamWill Entirely true, that is indeed the constitutional position in the US. However,.......
.............we await of course with bated breath to see whether the President will stand by his Secretary of State's avowed principles and veto that piece of shameless lobby-fodder legislation if it actually passes both houses.
"a prominent chief executive"?
That seems a rather strange formulation. Unless it is, allegedly, Ballmer gossiping about his own forthcoming defenestration it suggests that the person concerned belongs to another company than MS. Such a matter, if true, would be very hush-hush and known only to a very small inner circle, how would the senior officer of another company have heard about this? Unless of course it is the CEO of a major investor in MS who has been "sounded out" about such a move. The only thing that causes me to think that it *might* be true is that BG may have "rested" long enough to feel bored away from the "imperial throne" and such a move would, at this time, be unlikely to harm the company's share price. However, I have to say that the story smells of kite-flying by someone rather than the real deal.
@Tony Smith. I take your point.
However I don't think that giving Mr BS (and he is a master of it) any more publicity serves any constructive purpose.
RE: "The first commandment:" No open Windows?
I think you'll find that Bill would agree with that!
I'm sorry, this post is somewhat incoherent but...............
.............it is *so* difficult to write anything sensible when you are crying with laughter. What was that dear old Clive Dunn in his persona as Corporal Jones used to say? "They don't like it up'em Capt Mainwaring sir"!
@Michael H.F. Wilkinson. All they will have to do is.............
...............fake some "evidence" that the aliens have WMDs and they will be able to milk the US defence budget for years to come. Should be good for a few trillion dollars in support. Err, now I come to think of it, didn't somebody do something like that a few years back?
Do please clean up after yourself when you leave old chap - we don't want a nasty smell lingering about the place, do we?
Sammy has a very interesting approach to market analysis.
They plant a flagpole in every conceivable form-factor niche, run the flags up and see who salutes. It is at any rate a refreshing change from the pre-production "focus group" approach. Oh and yes, that is a damn fine phone. It does not answer my personal user case but that is irrelevant - lovely piece of kit.
This is simply the kind of sanitised vision that most examples of "BigCorp" like to punt out.
Not just Microsoft. A future where "we" (because none of "us" are going to be losers are we?) are all "middle class" and the underclass is held at arms length and out of sight. In fact you can see plenty of signs of the development of this trend all around us - especially in the larger cities, in the UK, Europe in general and in the US. The whole issue is a damn sight bigger than MS and far more important. It deserves a more thoughtful discussion than knee-jerk comments about Redmond - they are *part* of the problem because they are part of the system. Maybe we should be addressing *that* issue, the system?
@Mystic Megabyte: Damn!
You got there first. -:)
I don't think that "Wind in the Willows" was quite that...............
...............type of book old chap. -:)
If toads can predict earthquakes can we also have an investigation........
...............into what moles, water rats and badgers might usefully tell us?
Perhaps Sammy should rename it..............
................the Nova SII.
What is it they think that they are patenting?
What novel and specific system or process have they invented that they are asking patent protection for? Can they at this time demonstrate this novel system or process? From my reading of it they appear to be trying to patent a generalised concept without a specific concrete novel approach. If I am misreading this of course I stand open for correction. Anybody feel that this is worthy of patent protection? If so, can you explain to me why? The IT? icon - precisely because I do not see where the technology is in this patent application.
I really do not know what to say.
How the fuck we are supposed to protect ourselves against this kind of shite if all the mobilephone/os producers are in on this game is something that really leaves me at a loss. Has anyone got any suggestions?
@A Non e-mouse. That is of course assuming that..................
...................,in the current circumstances, Samsung are willing to sell Apple jack shit from their latest and greatest. In fact, unless Cupertino at last start to play nice I can see Sammy (given that there will be plenty of OEMs who will want this for their Win8 ARM tabs) saying - "see that camel?" to the fruit company.
I see that others have made the point.
I would in fact have been fairly bloody amazed if MS had not intended that IE10 should run on both Win 7 and Win 8. Win 7 is going to be their most installed os for some time to come contra Win 8 and it would surely be their aim that the take-up of IE 10 should be as broad as possible (consistent with their other priorities).
"Samsung's strategy has been criticized as widening the row...................
..........................far beyond Australia, drawing European authorities into the spat and leading to an EU investigation into whether the row is stifling competition."
Really? By whom pray? Precisely how wide does this "widening" have to be before it is wider than the other party starting patent/copyright litigation in 5 - 6 countries on three different continents before Samsung had so much as issued their first writ?
RE:"Are Labour paying the author?"
Reading between the lines I get the feeling that despite the standard saloon bar caveat in your last sentence you have at least as particular and partisan a political view as you are accusing the author of having. The kind of caveat that is always prefaced with "I'm not political but.....". Funny that, hmm?
@Funkstain RE: "OEM customisations"
Yes, the OEMS do have a potential problem if Alun's take on ICS is widely shared. Apart from competing even harder on the hardware/physical design side might they not start to compete by, for example, bundling a wider range of apps with the phones? If they do (at least partly) go that route, what effect might that have on independent devs building for Android market? That of course depends on how many and what type of apps the *average* Android customer buys during the lifetime of his/her phone. One could image a scenario where the market became at least partly poisoned from the devs point of view if customers became less interested in buying there because "they have what they need already". We might get a situation similar to that we see in the pc/laptop market where the OEMs "add value" by bundling all sorts of hows-your-father just to attract attention.
"............smartphone on four wheels,.........."?
It's appearance suggests to me the fugliest gamer mouse that I have ever seen.
@Giles Jones: You seem to be conveniently ignoring something when you say.........
.................."Got to love it, no expansion on a 32GB iPhone and it's a big problem. But 16GB and no expansion is okay because you "don't really need much more"."
IE. That it is obvious from this thread that a fair number of "Droidheads" (myself included) are making it clear that we are *not* impressed with the lack of storage expansion on this device. Just how did you *miss* that?
I freely admit that I am in many ways impressed, however............
...................no expandable storage? On the flagship *Android* phone? We expect that from "Another Company" but not on the phone that is meant to be the lead device/showcase for the latest iteration of Android and Google's first "trans-platform" effort at that. Particularly not at over half a k.
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