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Fascinating. They aren't even honest whores, they don't stay bought.
Oh and as for the attempt to explain away why they have decided to shit themselves and run by saying the SOPA is all Obama's fault, one can only say "lame, very very lame". What an unedifying bunch of time-severs and crooks.
@Mike Campbell 1 RE: "Echo your sentiments"
"If the Xoom Media offered 64GB at £350 I'd buy one. With 16GB & no external storage then no way."
I would have actually been willing to go up to a max of £400 *if* they had just included external storage and a larger battery. What is really annoying about this is that they currently do not appear to be able to get it right with both connectivity, external storage and battery size in relation to the needs of the device at *any* 'kin price - and that really gets up my nose! -:)
I have a really radical suggestion. How about manufacturing the phone in a fashion......
..........that makes it less vulnerable to scratches? That would surely be more efficient than after-market solutions? Nokia's polycarbonate cases are one example - you really have to do some damage before it shows.
RE "MS FAT tax"
Since a number of the companies concerned have (whatever *we* may think about the issue) signed licensing agreements with "A Certain Major Software Company" that would seem to be at least an incomplete explanation. Especially since there are several examples of the companies concerned *including* expansion but neglecting something on the connectivity front - that was in fact my point in my posting at the beginning of this thread.
@JDX RE: "It's all about the web" In the case of this particular suspect........
............you may very well be correct in your suspicions -:). However, they are *all* bloody doing it currently. If they don't fall down over the one criteria, they fall down over the other. What they do not seem to understand or be willing to accept is that to a significantly greater degree than with other devices the non-iPad tablet market is an enthusiasts market. Far more of the customers (at the present time) for Android tablets are likely to get the ars**le over such issues than in, say, the mob market. They do not have the large pool of well-heeled non-technophiles that form a significant portion of Cupertino's customer base. If they are going to persuade *us* who do care about such issues to part with serious money for medium to high end kit then they are just going to have to stop screwing around in this way.
I do not farkin' believe it.
Decent price, lovely screen etc etc. I read throught the specs and yet another one of the OEMs has done again. Only 16 Gb on board and no expansion slot! I have to ask - do they want to sell me a tablet or not? There is no excuse for this. If they cannot deliver *both* connectivity *and* expansion at a reasonable price (I do not expect to pay bottom feeder prices, I am willing to part with some proper wonga) why are they in this business at all? Moto was *one* step away from persuading yours truly to open his wallet and make a large number of moths homeless and they managed to fumble the ball - unfarkingbelievable.
@AC 16th January 2012 22:55 GMT RE: "Haha"
Another interesting thought is do any of these claims against Moto overlap with claims they are making against other companies? If they do (to some extent perhaps), it may have an effect on other legal disputes that Apple engage in in the US. This setback may possibly have larger consequences than are immediately apparent.
I should just like to add the following: What is the core of the industry that the.......
........SOPA-political-palm-greasers are attacking? The *internet* self-evidently. Only the most extraordinary and comprehensive *information* gathering, processing and distribution technology invented in the whole of human history. What did those slimeballs expect when said industry struck back at that vile piece of lobby fodder? They are getting hosed and they are all upset? They can't understand how its happening? They really do not get the tech that they are attacking. They thought that this was just business as usual and they could slide this through without there being significant political consequences - what a bunch of planks.
@g e RE: "bowing to lobbying pressure". The Dirty Digger really is a spectacularly....
.......hypocritical and dishonest shite. The Daily Tech posted this on 10th Jan.
"According to extensive research, anti-streaming lobbyists have engaged in a sweeping bribery scheme that paid for approximately 10 percent of all active Senators' total combined election costs."
The pro-SOPA lobbyist's activities have been even more shamelessly corrupt than is usual and the old saw about the best politicians that money can buy is highly apposite here.
@Ken Hagan I agree entirely.
I have a lot of respect for several of the Linux distros however the degree of "tribalist" howling pisses me off to a degree that is difficult to express without foaming at the keyboard.
@AC 2012 21:17 GMT. "......one of the problems with offering voluntary redundancy....
...........is that your long serving, most experienced staff take it."
Spot on AC, that is indeed very often the result. At my good lady's place of work they initiated that type of process about three to four month ago thinking that they could control that problem by choosing who got the chop/redundancy package. However, as is so often the case, they not only refused to negotiate over the changes in any meaningful sense they refused to give any guarantees about when the process would be completed. The result? They are not only losing the people that they believed that they no longer had a need for, they are bleeding all their best talent because the entire workforce is so demoralised and insecure that all the real talent are looking for other jobs or have now left having got one. Result, hmm? I can just about tolerate the fact that the "managerati" are greedy bar-stewards, what is however utterly puke-making is how many of them are stupid greedy bar-stewards. Oh, and if anyone objects to my describing our "captains of industry" in such terms I can only ask, how often have we seen this happen? Time and time again.
@cjp39 I don't know, it would be pretty cool.
You could install that app we read about recently where iPhone owners can send messages to announce the fact that they have just had sex and the phone could boast about its *own* performance.
RE: "Windows 7 was and is a failure" Really?
Is there any way I can get the name of your dealer? Whatever it is your smoking must be really good. On a more serious note it does not matter what you or I or Old Mother Riley's cat think of Win7, describing it as a failure when it has sold faster (under the same commercial conditions/requirements as before - ie largely preloaded) than any previous os from Redmond is bloody ridiculous. I personally do not care how much you hate "MicroDemonSpawn$oft", please *do* try and retain some connection to reality.
@DrXym RE: "The main threat" You are almost certainly correct here.......
.............I have to say that I find the thought of service personnel involved in the computer systems controlling *weapons systems* being so "several expletives deleted" that they would do such an insanely stupid thing is absolutely terrifying.
No icon here because I cannot choose one that adequately expresses my feelings of incredulity in this instance.
Please don't tell me that this Apple case-maker is citing...........
..............."prior art". That would be richly ironic in the circumstances.
@DJV. RE: "Go back to reading yer Daily Fail!" Slight correction old chap.......
Pretty much the same effect as Nichelle Nichols had on me..........
...................as a young teenage boy in the late sixties. In a word, devastating.
RE: "China Buys more Lamborghinis and Rolls-Royces than U.S. in 2011"
I am perfectly well aware of the difference between, for example, "average" and "median". That is indeed the point here. Income disparity in China is even more extreme than in the US. If one speaks of the "1.0%" in the United States then one should perhaps speak of the "0.1%" in China. The vast majority of Chinese people are dirt poor in comparison to the equivalent economic groups/classes in Western society. A skilled blue-collar or white-collar worker in the UK could certainly realistically buy an iPhone (or other high-end smartphone) on a plan from a carrier, he or she would not regard it as a minor matter financially but it would be doable dependent upon the scale of the rest of their monthly expenditure. Skilled blue-collar or white-collar workers in China however (ie ordinary Joes and Josephines like me and thee) could not possibly afford what that plan costs. *That* was the point with my comparison - that plan is nothing that any ordinary Western retail customer need feel envious of. In Chinese terms that plan costs the earth.
"iPhone users worldwide feel a wee bit underappreciated"? Only if they are both......
........totally braindead and *very* parochial. The average monthly wage in China is about 1800 yuan. The cheapest plan in that list represents about 16% of the average Chinese citizen's salary *before* deductions. The average monthly wage in the UK before deductions is about £2,200 giving us an *equivalent* monthly cost for plan #1 of £(0.16 x 2200) = £346.66. Still fancy some of that? It will be a long time before ordinary Chinese people can even begin to dream of owning a high end smartphone.
RE: "swan song", shirley?
Hmm, yes. Although the thought of SB demonstrating his "swan dive" from the top board at CES with accompanying tsunami conditions in the pool as he enters the water does have a certain appeal.
@AC 16:51 GMT "Magnets near the pacemaker."
Indeed. For exactly the same reasons that we cannot allow anyone with a pacemaker near our dept's NMR, the liquid helium cooled magnet would really ruin their day.
"It is extraordinary to show that such a basic law still holds even when constructing a wire from the fundamental building blocks of nature – atoms..............."
I look forward to the team demonstrating how one constructs a wire, of any type on any scale from any material you care to name, *without* using atoms. "Atomless" materials - the wave of the future.
Just taking a look a Huwei's response to the initial allegations.
"We have never been involved in and do not provide any services relating to monitoring or filtering technologies and equipment anywhere in the world," Huawei said then."
That is pretty explicit and if they are bullshitting it should be readily refutable. I've been googling this one a bit and I can't find anywhere that these six senators have said anything that in fact actually amounts to *evidence* contradicting what Huawei have said. Anyone else seen anything different?
I do not know what your arse can manage in 8m and 22s but the figure is.........
............not necessarily so ridiculous as it sounds to you. In addition to the specs of the tablet that Sammy handed out at the Build Conference mentioned in the article there was also the little matter of the 64 Gb SSD. Two of our Win 7 machines at home have identical specs as far as mobo, CPU and RAM are are concerned. The former needs about 60 min or so to run a drive image backup and the latter takes 18 min even though the amount and variety of data/programmes is roughly the same. The difference is simple. The former machine is equipped with a standard hard drive whilst the latter has a SSD as the system disk. The very large difference in sequential read speeds makes a big difference to how long a full system backup takes even though their sequential writes are about the same. The presence of an SSD on the system would have a considerable effect on how quickly these "refresh/reset" actions can be performed. It is perfectly possible that the genuine figure is significantly under your assumption of about 30 min. At any rate with an SSD on board that tablet their figures are not *necessarily* bogus.
I freely admit that I am drooling - and no it does not have anything to do with........
............that young lady by the side of the telly, well not entirely anyway. Four mill thick, blimey! I assume that there will be fixed cable out to some kind of "ports hub"? I don't see how they are going to provide the necessary connectivity otherwise.
I would however also like to make the point that I am not suggesting that ......
..........the European carriers are intrinsically more "worthy" than the US carriers. Whilst it is certainly the case that the markets in both data and voice traffic *within* the various nation states of Europe function reasonably well with local prices tending to be much lower than in the US, the situation when one leaves one's home country to travel to another European destination is another case entirely. Here the European carriers have been allowed to get away with so-called roaming charges for data and voice that amount to a degree of usury that would have brought a nod of rueful respect from Don Corleone. The primary difference here in Europe being that it is definitely a political hot potato with a considerable row going on between members of the European parliament and the commissioner responsible for EU telecommunications over the timing and scale of the upcoming capping of these charges. AFAIK there is not anything like the same degree of political noise over such issues within the US and I admit that I am bemused as to why that appears to be the case.
@Hurtlebum RE: ".......extortionate charges for cell phones and data plans........."
This may be at least partly driven by the degree of reliance on credit purchases amongst US retail customers. This leads perhaps to the choice being between a phone bought *with* a plan and buying on a credit card followed by buying a "phone-less" plan, rather than paying *cash* and then buying a plan. If, as I believe, phone-less plans are often artificially overpriced then the financial logic of the situation in practice drives credit customers straight into the arms of the carriers - a situation that has become self-reinforcing as the majority of customers have become dependent upon what are in practice 2-year hire-purchase agreements for both devices and services with the same retailer. In contrast to a good deal of the rest of the US economy the market in phones and services in the States is to a significant degree not functioning in the interests of anyone other than the carriers.
The only preparations you need are.........
.........one gag and one set of handcuffs per child. -:P
Whilst I am glad that this fee has been dropped and can readily understand the ire......
.........it generated I cannot help feeling that it is rather strange that US customers got so exercised over $2 (roughly a quid or so) when there are things about the mobile market on that side of the pond which surely must cost American mobile phone owners a great deal more than that. The fact that the carriers collectively in the US are a form of near monopoly gatekeeper with regard to *both* service provision *and* retail sales of mobile phones must surely cost the American customer far more in a year that this type of fee. The fact that buying your own phone and then buying a "plan" can actually end up costing you more over the lifetime of the contract is something that stinks of collusion between the carriers, with "phone-less" contracts being artificially over-priced. Oh no, not any kind of formal cartel - just a clear understanding of their common interests at the expense of millions of US customers. Verizon threaten a two dollar fee and there is outrage and the company has to back down. Yet US customers (apparently) accept this unholy alliance that in practice controls both access to services *and* to mobile phones in the large majority of cases, leading in turn to a situation where a mobile phone producer or a particular phone can in practice be shut out of the market unless he drops his pants for the carriers. Where is the outrage over that? I really do not understand the situation - anyone got an explanation that makes sense?
"Doesn't Cameron already have an iPad app....................
...........................that helps him set policy? It's called MailOnline."
Many a true word spoken in jest!
RE: ""leaked to Wmpoweruser.com" says it all." With all respect old chap, not it does not.
When it comes to the murky world of astroturfing and FUDing I recommend reading one of John le Carre's Cold War espionage novels to get a flavour of how to try and work out what is going on. It is perfectly possible (in theory at any rate) that this is FUD fed to Wmpoweruser by a source they believe they can trust but is in fact compromised. I am not say that it *is* the case, I am just saying that the assumption in your posting is *not* the only possible explanation for what *may* be going on here.
"20 per cent reduction in power and 10 hours of use"?
I realize that I am probably missing something here but how are they getting 10 hrs use with only a 20% reduction in power (consumption?) contra 1st gen atoms?
To: Dana W: Actually the lack of logic ought to be fairly obvious.
This leak (if genuine - another point which should be taken into account) suggests that Windows Phone will not support high res screens, amongst other needed improvements, until almost 2013. This if anything is bloody embarrassing for Redmond and certainly does not support the accusation of officially sanctioned astroturfing in this particular instance. If this was leaked by someone within MS it rather suggests internal conflict and someone unhappy with the pace of development of the Apollo upgrade. When assessing an alleged leak from a major conglomerate like MS one should always take into account the likelihood that internal turf wars may be at least *part* of the equation or indeed the possibility that it is FUD generated by an outside player.
Er, well actually on this occasion...........
"The bulk of the latest payment is made up in payments to “indirect” purchasers – that is, customers of finished products like TVs and computers using the screens, rather than the OEMs that were the cartel’s direct customers."
...........I think that the report does make it clear that the end-point customers *will* be compensated - as they should be given that they have almost certainly lost more (collectively) than the OEMs did.
"The EU has been lagging behind on this front, mainly down to..............
.......................squabbling over funding methods and cost overruns."
It also has to be mentioned that, initially at least, the US did a lot of heavy lobbying against Galileo in an effort to get the project dropped. They were not happy with Europe having a nav system independent of the US and gps.
To "Voland's right hand". I agree with you.
"The USPO's default position should that the patent is *not* granted unless the *applicant* can show that it is _WORKING_. No working prototype - no patent"
I said, about 3 - 4 postings earlier:
"Working prototype where we are talking hardware patent application or no patent granted."
Shift the burden of proof perhaps, in addition to tightening the law?
In other words tighten up on what can be patented *and* shift the burden of proof onto the applicant. The USPO's default position should that the patent is *not* granted unless the *applicant* can show that it is novel. The current situation where the patent office is drowning in a flood of micky mouse applications where *they* have to show due cause to reject the patent is the source of all the shite we are seeing today.
This demonstrates the problem perfectly.
"As far as El Reg can tell, Cupertino hasn’t actually built a fuel-cell-powered-cellphone, so we presume its two patent applications merely indicate directions in its research."
You are in a position to patent a device in your imagination. No, this is preposterous and should not be granted. Working prototype where we are talking hardware patent application or no patent granted. This has nothing to do with innovation, this is quite simply yet another land grab by a patent troll seeking to poison the market to their own advantage.
RE: "Totally agree"
In the short to medium what you say is IMHO indisputable. A touch more difficult to call long term, though I suspect the need for locally installed native apps will never entirely disappear.
@Twilkins: I really think old chap that you should have read my post more carefully.
"Ignoring all the feature phones and all the smartphones *significantly* under £400 we arrive at the following top ten."
I made it quite clear that I had done that in order to get a comparison between phones in the *upper price segment* which is where the Lumia 800 is - albeit at the lower end of that segment. Comparing like with like in the financial sense you understand. That was the point of my list with regard to those phones for which punters are willing to plonk roughly £400 or more on the table for their newest shiny.
RE: "crikey. Razr coming up fast there"
It is isn't it? Mind you I am not exactly surprised it does appear to be very fine kit and has attracted some very favourable reviews on a number of serious web-sites including, natch, Reghardware. The one that does surprise me a bit given the problems that RIM has had lately is their highest end offering at number 4. I'm not dissing the phone you understand it is just that they have been in some fairly heavy weather in recent times and that does not exactly help when trying to sell a device in that price segment! As far as the Lumia goes this list would seem to suggest that it is doing all right albeit not near well enough yet to give Nokia any reason to feel that they are yet out of the woods.
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