Re: A sad time for Microsoft diehards
Suggest old chap that you try more reasoned analysis and less ad hominem next time you post.
2581 posts • joined 6 Nov 2009
Suggest old chap that you try more reasoned analysis and less ad hominem next time you post.
I for one would love them to try. I'm sure the Chinese authorities would welcome them with open arms. After all the Chinese are well known for their affection for companies that think that they can show the State the middle finger.
.......brain in the area concerned at any rate. See icon.
Indeed. My flabber has never been so gasted. How I am expected to get over the shock here I do not know. Who could have known? Choice of icon - what else?
On a slightly more serious note this makes a large contribution to revealing the FBI's fishing expedition for what it is. A totally unscrupulous attempt to create new judicial "facts on the ground". I am utterly convinced that their decision to go with this attempt to strong-arm Cupertino (and I am not one of the Fruity Company's fans, God knows) was an attempt to gain powers that have never been granted them by Congress and/or been tested in front of the "Supremes".
The fact that Obama's use of executive orders is relativley modest and has been hansomely beaten by a number of presidents (among them R. Nixon and G.W. Bush) will not remotely hinder the poster to whom you are replying from alleging that Obama's record on this is especially egregrious. However, your link will hopefully hinder any more of that kind of idiocy on this thread at least.
Well done "not Spartacus", a very coherent and well argued post. We need more of this type of thing. I do not entirely agree with your entire analysis but I have considerable regard for the way you have presented it. I am unfortunately short on time and am not in a position to reply in a way that would do your post justice but, all the same, thumbs up for this.
"Very sad losers get aroused fondling robots in their private areas". FIFY.
"Since Windows is their cash cow....."
Actually Doug 3 it isn't. They rake in way more with Office and increasingly their cloud products than they do with their OS. Windows itself is of importance to them as a strategic product but not in any huge direct degree as a financial product - hence their "free" strategy (including the continuous upgrade badgering). Nadella appears to have realised that the only strategy as far as open source/Linux is concerned is to apply the old saw (as Dr Syntax points out) "if you can't beat them, join them". After all both Gates and Ballmer tried the "beat them" tactic and we all know how successful that was. Redmond's ambitions in the cloud are impossible to realise without a complete rethink of their former attitudes towards Linux specifically and open source in general. It would appear that "SatNat" may have taken this on board. Certainly if they do not then their ambitions with regard to "mobile and cloud" are, in the medium to long term, unrealisable and frankly speaking, risible.
Battery life anyone?
Indeed. I think an extended stay in the scorpion pits is in order.
Very interesting. Have you spoken to AmanfromMars recently? If you have please give him my very best regards.
Indeed. My eyeballs started to bleed when I read that subheading. I don't normally do the grammar nazi schtick but what in the name of Deity was wrong with "Cue warnings of repercussions...."? Much more of this and El Reg' subbies are going to cost me a fortune in in eyewash and tranquillizers.
As I remarked earlier on this thread I am running a 640XL and a 640 on Win 10. I am not having any problems at all but people I read on other threads have real issues (with the same phones). What is going on here is something of a mystery. Nice to hear that you are enjoying your 950 BTW. ☺
I am running the current Insider Build on a 640XL (my daily driver) and a 640 (my backup). I am not currently experiencing any problems although others on various threads with the same phones have a different story to tell. My impression is that the roll out is due to begin in Europe, at any rate, in the coming weeks.
As in, where is it El Reg? You just quote one side on this one? Poor stuff, only saved by several well taken points BTL.
The Four Horsemen are already riding. Its the end of days I tell you, its the end of days!
"Suppose the fine for a bank robbery was = the money stolen, less wear and tear on shotguns, stocking depreciation etc."
........of Apple's excuse.
"All of which Apple appears to accept, except they say that they did it for the benefit of the market — that grabbing some power back from Amazon reduces the main monopoly seller, rather than artificially empowering the monopoly producers."
What they in practice appear to have argued is that "we were doing everyone a favour by breaking the law" - because there is no possible doubt that they were in breach of anti-trust laws. I wonder how far we mere mortals would get with that argument in court!
You don't see the difference in degree this time? If this is true then MS are intending to lock out of the Windows pc market every independent software producer on the face of the planet. The only exceptions being those they choose to grant access. This would make their behaviour in nineties (major league shitty as it was) pale in comparison. I would also remind you that the European competitions authorities have not shown themselves to be completely toothless with regard to undertakings given by Redmond. You recall when MS fucked up over the browser choice page for the European version of Windows? Ballmer had, metaphorically if not literally, to ring the competition commisioner on his bended knees. It did not matter how much MS protested that it was a mistake, they still got slapped with a huge fine. I repeate, competition authorities all over the face of the planet will go beserk if Redmond tries this. This would be in fact an order of magnitude worse than their conduct in the nineties.
UWPs involve the desktop market where Windows still has a (roughly) 90% "market dominant position". If Redmond attempted to do this the DoJ in the US and the European competition authorities would be all over them. The DoJ in the States would charge MS with anti-trust violations in no seconds flat.
Let us say, as a working hypothesis that, roughly speaking, Win 10 traffic doubles at the weekends and indicates a market penetration of the retail sector of somewhere between 25 and 30% in the US market as indicated by the graph of the US government's figures. If we then also accept (again, roughly speaking, as a hypothesis) that the ballpark figures provided by Netmarketshare and StatCounter are a reasonable indication of reality as far as the overall average for the combined retail and enterprise markets then the implication is that Win 10's penetration of the enterprise market at present is approximately half that of the overall average. With Netmarketshare's figure for February at at just under 13% and StatCounter's figure at just under 15% this suggests that the degree of penetration of the enterprise market is in the range 6 - 8 %-age points (again, in the US market). These figures (if they reflect reality) would seem to suggest that at this stage in the release cycle of a new Windows interation the figures are, from Redmond's point of view, respectable (given that enterprise always adopts at a much slower rate that private customers and we are only 6 months or so into this release cycle). However, the coming 12 months will be key. If we do not see an enterprise share of about 15 - 20 %-age points in a year's time then Redmond has a problem.
.......Once achieved it can then upload them to the internet."
You do realise that the image of Mr Dabbs' testicles being removed al dente and then uploaded to the internet is going to haunt me for years and may cause serious psychological damage? I have already booked time with my GP as a precautionary measure. You will be receiving my medical bills ongoing.
It is indeed richly ironic that the anal retentive control freaks of the American security/Homeland defence industry (and it is indeed an industry) are apparently bent on destroying one of the last areas in which the USA still has a very clear lead over the rest of the world. Bill Clinton's advisor in an earlier presidential election who posted "it's the economy stupid" was simply repeating old advice. Never mind your military it is your economy that keeps you a major player. It is mindbending that America's "defenders" apparently wish to take measures that will hasten the decline of the USA as a major power. It is not all about how many guns and rockets you have guys, wakey wakey!
Actually I think that most people these days buy a new machine when they need a new machine. The conventional pc-market has been heading south for some considerable time. I think that HP need to reexamine the excuses they are making for themselves. Currently, AFAIK, the only growth in the pc-market in general is in the area of "2-in-ones", "hybrids" and the like. If HP's main effort is still in knocking out boxes and expecting us to buy them then they should perhaps reevaluate their strategy.
Point of fact correction. The stylus is bundled with the Surface Pro. The rest of the sentence is correct.
Indeed Lester. It is in fact amazing that certain members of our little congregation still have not understood that "Boot notes" rarely has anything to do with IT. Indeed they have failed to grasp that that is the whole point. I am obliged to ask "how thick is it possible to be"?
I am so jealous of your post I do not where to begin. Big thumbs up!
I cannot cope with the very thought of clicking on this link:
"The year before, the same hospital saw no less than eight firemen attend an eye-watering incident involving a spam javelin, a steel tube and an angle grinder. ®"
An angle grinder? May the Deity help us all!
Did not understand a word of it as usual - but beautifully written all the same.
In the meantime, "Ballmer schools SatNad on Microsoft's mobile strategy: You need one".
It would have been great had Ballmer had an identifiable strategy when he was CEO.
I think that you can guess what my attitude is to this example of
antisocial media when I describe it as "FarceBooK". It reminds of nothing more than the circular letters that we used to get from a certain type of middle class acquaintance in the seventies and eighties, "Jeremy has done extremely well in his O-Levels and Samantha is becoming very horsey...." Excuse me while I puke.
Indeed James. El Reg is one of my favourite sites but the eye-crossing ads/videos/popups really piss me off. What can I say?
...............the comments BTL had me close to crying with laughter. See icon.
Very good points Random Handle, just don't hold your breath as far as there being any chance that they will take any notice whatsoever. :)
MS Research does a lot of long term basic research (basic as in not having an immediate commercial application). Their work takes years to pay off. One example of that work that is beginning to pay off is in the field of real time translation (as has been reported several times here at El Reg). I repeat, whatever you may think about MS' commercial operation; how many major companies would put as much money as they do into research that may not pay off at all, or may only pay off a decade or two down the line? The problem with any MS-thread currently is that, regardless of what the topic might be, it immediately becomes infested by large numbers of anti-Redmond hatebois whose only objective is to excrete large amounts of steaming ordure on the thread. There is plenty that MS deserve very strong criticism for but the utter incapacity of some to distinguish between issues is a royal pain in the backside for those of us who are actually interested in a worthwhile on topic discussion.
Did you boys miss the bit about these employees joining MS Research? How did you miss the importance of Swiftkey's people's first class AI skills? Whatever you may think about MS as a commercial outfit their research division is world class in the fields they cover.
I dare not speculate about what the average IT-pro thinks about the shiney-buying general public!
Very interesting suggestion. It could as part of a solution (state level cooperation of the type referred to in this article, changes to tax law and so on included) be very effective. See icon.
"The law of unintended consequences might have had an upside in this case, customers were likely to be prompt payers".
Indeed Boris, this exactly the kind of response I have been hearing from people who could not remotely be described as leftwing.
Actually Andrew there are plenty on the "Corbynite Left" who are perfectly capable of counting without having to take their shoes and socks off to get above twenty who have made very clear their dislike of this "deal" without out resorting to criticisms that you would be likely to characterise as "hard left". It has indeed attracted well merited and clearly expressed criticism across the whole political spectrum (I am very glad to say). All you are doing with that kind of comment is giving the impression that you are paying obeisance to the Daily Fail and their like, something which I am very certain is not an impression that you wish to give. What is the problem with admitting that your feelings about this deal are also shared on the Left without making snide remarks? God help me, I even agree with Tories sometimes - not very often, but it has been known to happen. :P
it's healthier for us and the environment."
I realise of course that you were being satirical, however there are those who actually do believe that it would be better for the environment. It would in fact require a huge extension of arable monoculture farming right across the face of the planet in order to do this. The irony of the vegan position is that it would do massive damage to the earth's ecosystem if we all dropped eating meat.
Even I as a British English speaker chocked on that one. How our compadres from the western side of the pond are likely to react beggers the imagination. The Pope is allowed to engage in oral sex once a week - are you serious?
I realise that the more fundamentalist wing of the iFanbois will likely be hugely offended by that subheading but I laughed like a drain. Thumbs up for an extremely funny bit of "subbing".
Thumbs up for that one Captain Scarlet!
God's in his heaven and all's right with the world. It is so reassuring that the Fruity Company continues with this pathetic behaviour. I realise that this will not go down well with the anti-Redmond hatebois but despite the regular slaggings that El Reg give MS (very often deserved but not always) MS usually reply when asked for a comment. However, with regard to Cupertino the only appropriate comment is "plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose "
Given the rate of STDs these days people can manage that for themselves without need for government assisstance!
Just about carry is of course the word. One of the more ridiculous scenes of that type is from "The Four Feathers" (1939) which features a scene showing Gary Cooper storming through the gates of a desert fort firing a Vickers HMG (WWI vintage) from the hip!
...........it is just being facilitated by modern technology. My dear mother had a job in a cigarette factory in Norway in the late 1940s. All the line workers were women and they discovered that the (male) foreman was (on the orders of senior management) following the ladies when they took a toilet break to time how long they spent in the loo. Mum promptly organised a strike (she was a bit of a firebrand in her younger days) and the management backed down. All that is happening now is they are displaying the same contempt for their employees - just using modern surveilence/sensor technology to do it.