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@Tom 13 "it is against US law to extend a bribe anywhere" Entirely correct as those........
...........of us with long enough memories to recall the Lockheed bribery scandals in Japan in the 1970s would readily confirm. It was precisely that plane-makers willingness to bribe world+wife+dog that led to the relevant changes in US law that made offering bribes, even to foreign citizens in another country, a criminal offence for US-based companies.
If this is true (and of course it may very well be) it, in common with other instances we........
..............have seen, illustrates the potential problems with the "reward programs" that many of the majors use with their channel partners inasmuch as it can under certain circumstances encourage what we might refer to as
corruption "undesirable behaviour". It is in its own way analogous to the bonus/reward culture within banking and finance - and I do not imagine that many of us have forgotten where that got us!
Wasn't it a bit of a stretch working a Microsoft angle into an article..............
..........................reporting the retirement of ARM Holding's CEO?
@Snake "I hate to say it, but I'm on China's side on this one". I have to say (and it does.......
........not cause me a moment's difficulty to do so) that I entirely agree with you. Given all the very obvious propaganda we have seen about all major Chinese companies being an arm of the Chinese state and therefor by definition suspect I have to say that any US company bound by the "Patriot Act" can scarcely complain if the Chinese shout back "Pot, Kettle and all that Round Eyes!".
Re: "Surely, you mean 'technophiles'?" I think that depends on which company the........
........technology originates from. If one were to judge by the howling that greets anything from "fill in your choice of company here" one would have to assume that a certain proportion of the membership here are indeed "technophobes". At least a fair number appear to have an automatic aversion reaction to any tech not approved of by "their tribe".
@Barry Shitpeas: Blimey Barry, calmly written, made sense and to a large extent...........
.................I agree with your points. You've really got to stop doing that, you are spoiling my day.
@Nick Ryan I have to say that I agree. This has all the hallmarks of yet another attempt......
..........by management to shift the company's costs onto their employees - I would be more impressed if it was CYODWPFI. "Choose Your Own Device and We'll Pay For It".
Re:"I heard 90% of all statistics are made up. So, is that you're only source?"
I do not normally do grammar Nazi corrections but that one gets so far up my nose that I cannot help myself this time. "You're" is a contraction of "you are", it is not the fucking personal pronoun "your". Non-specific Deity on a prosthesis! That one really makes me feel as if someone is slowly scratching their finger nails down a blackboard.
Re: "Perhaps" Sounds like an excellant idea.
After all "BigBastardCorp" (whichever big bastard we are talking about) won't pay taxes so why not shaft them as thoroughly as we can with fines for even the slightest infraction?They wont pay taxes? Let us fine them instead at every possible opportunity. A very handy 0.75 billion from MS recently, now we should screw Cupertino for gazzillions per day whilst they fail to comply and while we are at it we should see what heavy fines will do for Mountain Veiw's attitude towards privacy. Indeed in the words of the Lord High Executioner from Gilbert and Sullivan's "Mikado", "I have a little list and none of them would be missed". In a paraphrase of something Denis Healy said in another era "let us fine them until the pips squeak".
@Eadon Re: "I use Linux Mint and before that various distros"
Dear heaven Eadon you are at it again. I am forced to use the words that Oliver Cromwell used when writing to a particularly intransigent group of Scottish Presbyterians "I beseech you, in the bowels of Christ, think it possible that you may be mistaken".
Which is the tail and which is the dog in the sense of who is wagging whom?
Let me first make one thing clear - I am not remotely hostile to Android as a mob os, indeed I have owned four so far and am currently running a Desire X. However, one thing is becoming increasingly clear. In the prestigious and very profitable mid-range to high end market only Samsung is making the big bucks. This is becoming increasingly problematical for Google because it is steadily becoming the case that in the aforementioned sector the average punter is identifying Android with Samsung rather than Mountain View. The Koreans are more and more in the invaluable position where punters are asking for a Samsung phone - brand profile in other words. Currently (although on a much smaller market scale) Redmond is in very much the same position with Nokia (given that Nokia is generating over 80% of all WinPhones sold) - what happens there if WP8 finally gains some significant market share largely provided by the Finns? It will be very interesting to see how Mountain View and Redmond react to being as equally dependent upon their primary OEM as the OEM is on them. That changes the power balance very considerably - we will very likely be "living in interesting times".
Re: "What a load of bollox" Indeed. One has to ask whether companies in the.........
.......software channel are going to say to companies who need a full-song-with-choruses computer operating system "you don't need Linux or Windows, what you really need is a mob os like iOS or Android"*. Riiiiiight, I can see that going down well! The fact is genuinely pro outfits are going to push a solution that they think will work for their client - because repeat business and word-of-mouth is the name of the game if you are a serious company.
*Mobile operating systems that they might well push if that is what their client is asking them about.
Re: "Humbug" I agree entirely - top post. I would also add that if one really wants to.......
..............see a company with a carnivorous attitude to third party resellers and the like then Redmond is (strangely enough) by far from being the worst (although they are very far from being choir boys in this context).
Re: "Racist remarks!" I think that any normal person would have realised that you.............
..................were being satirical but it seems that some saddo has downvoted you. Upvote delivered to even things up.
Re: Vikings? Weeell, actually the pattern of "exodus" is a little more complex.
For example those who had murdered or stole cattle etc were, if caught, often declared "nithing" meaning they were outside the protection of the law and in order to escape enraged relatives and/or cattle fondlers they often fled (during the late tenth century and the early eleventh) to the western coast of France. The grandson of one of these thieves/murderers was known to his contemporaries as William the Bastard (a little matter of, ahem, lack of a wedding between his mum and dad although given what he did next the alternative interpretation holds as well).
He landed one day with his cohort of third/fourth generation thieves, murderers and cattle-rustlers on the southern coast of England in 1066 and the rest, as we say, is history. The Vikings never successfully conquered* either Scotland or England (indeed Harold Godwinson trounced a Danish/Norwegian army at the Battle of Stamford Bridge in the same year only to march south to his fuck-up at Hastings), it was in fact the descendants of a bunch who even the Vikings could not stand who managed that trick.
*They actually settled as farmers and traders in many areas where they had control but they did not ever succeed in national conquest.
Re: "As long as it has a safety cover over the valve"
Indeed, however as far as I could tell from the video the distinctive "bell"-shape of a safety cover was distinguished by its absence. Choice of icon? It seemed amusingly appropriate.
I would just like to say that....................
..............if anyone is intending to move a gas cylinder in that fashion anywhere near me I would much appreciate the earliest possible warning (so that I can leave town immediately). Where I work we use two-wheeled cylinder trolleys - much less exciting and butch than man-hauling cylinders containing flammable/explosive gasses but much safer.
RE "Please explain how the European Commission has been incompetent."
Well there has to be some explanation for why not only MS but apparently world+wife+dog failed to notice this snafu. After all the competition authorities are supposed to police these agreements and apparently were completely oblivious for about a year and a half. This of course does not in any way excuse Redmond's cluster-fuck and it is to be hoped that they will indeed be very heavily fined. However, to paraphrase one of Conan-Doyle's most famous Sherlock Holmes short stories we still have the mystery of the dog(s) that did not bark. How is it that, apparently, nobody noticed for seventeen months?
I have to say that what strikes me about this is Cupertino's scorched earth policy.............
..........towards anyone earning anything other than them. It is not so long ago that Apple were at least partly dependent on the third party peripherals industry for supplying what Cupertino was not then in a position to manufacture themselves and to contribute to maintaining Apple's profile in the market-place. I know that "all's fair in love and business" and all that but the iFruits are certainly out there in front as far as that is concerned.
"Europeans - lower your shields and surrender ..."
Kiss my arse.
It is all so very simple.
1. Do not under any circumstances allow your darling angelic little anklebiters anywhere near a device which you authorise any kind of expenditure on.
2. If you do make it clear to your little darlings that if they spend one penny of your money without asking you first they will be banned from using any electronic equipment at home and their pocket money will be stopped until it has made up the difference.
3. Explain that if they still persist in this anti-social (ie thieving) behaviour then all their toys will end up in the dustbin. (one couple of two kids (8 and 10) we know did this and the improvement in the little darlings' behaviour bordered on the miraculous).
Re: "negative advertising of *nix that Microsoft could ever possibly wish for."
We all been there, tried to tell him, he won't listen - large mouth very small etc. ect. It is a waste of time trying to persuade him to think for one moment.
@ AC Tues 26th Feb 13.34 GMT "such as claiming to have shagged my mum............
..............and her asking for more."
I say old chap, steady on. I am sure that your good lady mother would not have touched him with the thin end of very long bargepole. I mean, who would? It is bad enough have to debate with him never mind - oh god no, the image in my mind it too horrible. I can't go there, not even in the most theoretical sense.
Re: "I thought those little silver icons were because........."
Had the award been based on the net number of upvotes after downvotes were taken into account he would have to pay El Reg in order to be able to post here let alone get any icons.
Re: "SECURITY MS FAIL" If I ever need to employ a sysadmin who understands.......
...............how to protect Linux based systems do remind me not to call you.
Re:" so look at the lesson it can draw from this screwup."
"If you say to an accountant"? We have all too many examples in industry where the bean counters drive strategy - look where that's got a lot of firms. The correct question that MS should ask themselves (not their double entry bookkeeping onanists) is in fact "is there not a possible cost associated with this that we have not taken into account"? If they think long and hard the answer will come to them. "Yes there fucking is. We are on the ground floor of trying to create a big slice of what is going to be a mega-global business far larger than it is today (because it is currently in its infancy and still very dependent upon customer trust) and fuck-ups like this could cost us billions if not trilliions in lost future customers". Then they should spend whatever it takes and (if necessary) engage in cost cutting elsewhere in the business - they could start by firing all accountants at senior manager level or above.
@ADC "Who says the RCA won't be corporate bullshit?" Oh, I would entirely agree......
.............that they might be that stupid. However, that "cloak" would in practice last about as long as it took the tech-pros over the whole of planet Earth and the rest of Known Space to begin to howl.
""The RCA will be posted on this blog as soon as it is available," he wrote."
Good. This is definitely one of the occasions when it is highly advisable to avoid the standard corporate bullshitting attempts to explain away/obfuscate - they have to convince their enterprise customers that they do know what went wrong and they do know how to fix it.
"Among the chief weaknesses Smith cited..................
...............were abuse of standards-essential patents, lack of transparency into who owns patents, and inadequate patent review processes at the US Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO) leading to overboard patents and frivolous litigation."
I find it hard to disagree with very much of what he is quoted as saying although hearing an example of "BigCorp" (whichever company we are talking about) saying this makes one go somewhat cross-eyed. Three useful additions to that list would be:
A. Applications for hardware patents: No working prototype, no patent. Nothing coming to market within three years of the patent being granted, patent annulled.
B. Making illegal the use of Non Disclosure Agreements where FRAND patents are involved - how can we know that the terms offered this or that company are Fair And Non Discriminatory if we do not know what the conditions are? Equally well it would prevent the use of "sweetheart" deals at the expense of others seeking to license where the patent holder has a financial involvement in the particular company seeking to license.
C. Severely time-limited copyright protection for innovative non-obvious software, not patent protection of any kind.
Re: "Did Bill Gates personally come to your house and butcher your dog in front of your kids?"
Oh God, if only he had.
Re: "You have no idea, have you?" I have to agree.
Sexually suggestive remarks from someone you may not even like (in the platonic sense) can be very unpleasant and difficult to cope with. If he was not getting a positive response to his idea of "wooing" then he should have stopped, end of. Given that he clearly did not stop and was such an arsehole that he sometimes made these remarks in the presence of third parties then the issue of harassment was IMHO open and shut.
@AC 20th Feb 10.38 GMT But you have got to understand - he knows. His personal........
..............psychic saw Ballmer in a dream handing over a large bung in a plain brown envelope so it must be true.*
*I do wish El Reg would give us a satire icon - the troll will just have to do.
@kb Thank you very much kb for demonstrating that it is possible to comment on issues.....
.........involving Redmond and describe the historical context (without attempting to "rewrite it") in a fashion that is scarcely complimentary to MS but does not involve $-signs and howling. I too have (more than) my share of grey hairs and your description of what was going on back in the day is right on the money.
If the lady is simply (according to you) some kind of "lefty lesbo" whose opinions.......
..........are not shared by all right-thinking hairy chested hetero thinkers like yourself, I have to ask how did she get elected then, hmm?
The interesting thing here is that, from everything I have read, the Icelanders..............
....are having a serious discussion here about what is acceptable and the issues of democratic expression and freedom. They have also made it clear that they do not have a big problem with explicit porn - they are not prudes. What they appear to be talking about is porn and violent images and are trying to see if there is a way of dealing with this without throwing the baby out with the bathwater. I would argue that this is a wholly legitimate discussion - what they in the end decide to do is a matter for them. I would however caution against any knee-jerk "libertarian" responses. These people are not a bunch of Daily Heil prudes.
@Trevor_Pott Indeed, the game would not be worth the candle.
One analogy might be the preparations for keeping transport going during the Winter where I live and in the UK. My neighbours up here tend to laugh hysterically when we hear about Britain being shut down due to a couple of inches of the nasty white stuff. The point is of course that the UK in general simply does not get enough snow to justify the kind of expense that my adopted countrymen go to in order to ensure transport and comms year round.
"The meteorite has been estimated at 17 metres" A mere pebble in other words :P
I have to say that the way in which, amongst others, the Daily Fail reported the events in Russia was highly entertaining although also somewhat depressing. They were suitably shocked/horrified/amazed that Russian Air Defence Command sent up fighters to intercept/checkout what the fuck it was. Let me see now, they get reports of lights in the sky, loud explosions etc and they send up a few MIGs to find out what was going on - well what a surprise.
"That Windows experiment cost them a trillion pounds."
That experiment cost them a thousand thousand million pounds Eadon? I am of course not saying that it is impossible but I would really appreciate a link to that - if you can manage it, hmm?
@Alister: Well funny you should say that but................
"Be funny if this quote was misinterpreted and taken as a Ratner-esque comment on the excitement of Apple Stores."
..........that thought occurred to be just before I logged back in to check this thread and saw your posting. It is possible that that quote (as you implied) may indeed come back to haunt him. Certainly I would have thought twice (were I in his position) before I had compared the effects of my retail chain to a prescription drug give for psychological difficulties. Or perhaps the effect of their stores is indeed intended to reduce the state of depression that their prices may induce in their customers - who knows?
"It's like Prozac."
Well - he said it.
@LoCatus. I think if you really strain your intellect old chap you may spy the.........
............possibility that the AC was being satirical - if you can manage that type of heavy lifting that is.
"Perhaps they wanted the Nintendo style sellout hype to work " Oh Barry really, you can........
........unlike Mr Eadon do better than that. Microsoft do indeed deserve criticism here but not for the reason you have suggested. Their only serious experience with the manufacture and sale of hardware over an extended period of time is in fact the xbox as well as a sideline in peripherals (mice, keyboards and the like). In my opinion they were so (at least until Sinofsky departed) preoccupied with trying to do an "apple" with Win RT that they failed to focus enough on the crucial area of touch-slabs and the enterprise sector. That should have been a no-brainer for them as far as ensuring that there were sufficient Surface Pro's available when they launched. This is not an example of trying to manipulate the headlines by running out of kit, this is a production cluster-fuck in relation to what they should have been capable of expecting with regard to the sales of Win RT slabs contra Win 8 - especially since if they don't keep enterprise they are dead in the water as far as tablets are concerned. I and many others in this forum and various other places have commented that MS might get one hell of a surprise with regard to which of these two versions of their operating system would be the one they should really keep their eye on. They have fucked up certainly - just not in the way you are suggesting.
One interesting aspect of this is the way corporate psychology mirrors the mind-set of .....
......certain types of individual or at least appears to. If it is indeed true that Apple's most senior managers would have preferred not to go down the judicial route and their former CEO in practice bounced them into it, why are they not now (as far as we can tell) trying to row back? Can it really be the case that loss of corporate face is the same (in the psychological sense) as individual loss of face? Is it that the individual managers feel (consciously or unconsciously) that it would be a personal loss of face for them now if they back away rather than there being any "corporate gestalt" involved? It is a curious phenomenon that has been observed in many companies over the years, not just Apple. Senior managers when defending the culture of the "managerati" in Western economies frequently claim that they take "necessary, cold, hard, calculated decisions for the benefit of the company and its shareholders" whereas in practice many of their decisions appear to have very individualistic not to say egoistic overtones.
Re:"be of zero interest to 99.9% of the population "
I was not for one moment advocating what might be euphemistically called rationing or anything like it. I was simply pointing out that given the usage to which the bandwidth is likely to be put the system will not cope and/or prices will indeed go through the roof. You are perfectly at liberty (by definition) to disagree with what I have posted but please do not impute to me something I have not argued for explicitly or implicitly - I have little liking for "straw-man tactics".
It is absolutely amazing. One of the most remarkable technological advances in modern....
...............communications history and what is it going to be used for? A sort of 24hr P2P youtube, endless holiday vids and an enormous amount of porn. Not only that the increase in that type of video traffic bids fair to send mobile broad-band costs back up through the roof and/or break the infrastructure given that the demand is likely to increase way faster than the increase in available bandwidth. Very occasionally I really do despair - this is the revolution in mobile communications we've been getting all enthused about?
@Jamie Jones " Your posts are so inane and full of hot air.................
.......................that you are letting the Linux side down. You must be an MS shill!"
Ah I see. You are proposing the "reverse FUD hypothesis" to explain his remarkable record hear at El Reg. Whilst I am not entirely unsympathetic to the suggestion I fear that the old saw "never subscribe to malice what idiocy can explain" still remains my favourite take on this kind of thing. Expressed bluntly, he has proved time and time again that he does not have the brains for anything so "advanced" as you are proposing.
@Eadon RE "Hello MS PR droid :)" You are up to it again Eadon and you still, apparently....
......do not get it. El Reg's Vanguard of the Commentariat are a fairly mixed bunch. The largest grouping are (if such labels have any meaning) Android enthusiasts (as far as their phones are concerned at any rate) the second largest group is (as far as I can tell) those who like what Cupertino produce and the third group (rather smaller but not insignificant are our compadres of the Linux persuasion). In fact, "Softies" or MS-fanbois are almost non-existent here - where they do exist they, very wisely, keep their heads very firmly below the parapet. You are a most remarkable commentard - unique in fact. I have never seen any member here (in the last three to four years I have posted on this site) who has managed to achieve what you have. No member, in my experience, has ever made himself such a figure of derision or attracted so many down-vote hosings as you have. Now you may comfort yourself with your little delusion that anyone downvoting you is a closet Redmond-bumboi. I am fairly certain that you are very much mistaken - to get the regular hosings you have as far as down-votes are concerned you have succeeded in pissing off people from all the groups I have mentioned above. Your very special blend of idiocy and abuse directed at anyone you disagree with, regardless in fact of what they have said or how they have expressed themselves, is not having quite the effect you might have hoped for.
@Thomas Wolf Re: "What I object to is that he's is high profile and...................
..................gets to blast out his version of reality".
I think that as far as that goes it is a part of society today. Look at how many celebs exploit their fame in one area to mouth off in another (a certain well known comedy actor's love for A Certain Famous Mobile Phone Manufacturer comes to mind) whether they know fuck about what they are talking about or not. As to the issue of suing I have to say that if he believes that the company is failing in its duty to its shareholders then the judicial route is not necessarily illegitimate - although I am no admirer of that approach. If we are saying that if he does not like it then the only legitimate option he has is to sell and fuck off, what sort of "ownership" is that? I make these points on general principle - I take no position on whether his complaints in this instance hold water or not.
Re: ""Apple haz the money and I wants it""
Well he is after all a shareholder. In other words a proportion (related to the size of his shareholding) is in fact his. If he does not like the way the company is handling this he is at least entitled to say so. Now, of course he may simply be a greedy bastard who wants his now and fuck everybody else. However, he is as an owner entitled to express his opinion, hmm?
The situation where I live (up the arse end of Arctic Nowhere) is rather different.
Up here you only have to register your objection to cold calling and all the telesales etc companies get three months to comply. Thereafter the local telecom watchdog can (depending on the seriousness and scale of the breaches) do everything from fining them to shutting them down. Not saying the system is perfect but it has been several years since we have been bothered by those kinds of nuisance calls.
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