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I am actually fairly amazed that two such major companies have/had systems that.........
..........could be so easily gamed by bog standard social engineering techniques (if I have understood what was done in this instance). Particularly so since both companies derive major income selling services and content in a fashion that is very dependent on a relationship of trust with their customers. Yes, I know the journalist concerned has admitted that it was partly his fault but that is the point. A significant proportion of these companies' customers are not the sharpest knives in the draw when it comes to making their side of such systems secure which means that the reality is that these companies' systems have to (to some extent) protect their customers from those customers own failings. That is the price you have to pay as a company if you are in that type of business. There really is no excuse for their systems being so readily penetrated by techniques that are, in terms of the history of the "Age of Tech", as old as the hills.
"Payments giant on lookout for fresh blood" Vlad Paypal?
The company might consider to be a rather unfortunate subheading.
This kind of shite behaviour is the reason why I have not bought a phone on a plan for about........
.....the last 15 years. If I have to delay upgrading until I have saved enough to pay cash on the nail, then that is what I do. I shop around for the most advantages terms for my actual connection and that's it. The mobile phone producers may not be our "homies" but the carriers are definitely the enemy.
@Chris 19 Re:"Therefore my apps appear either only or first on iOS"
Indeed, the business case for a dev in these circumstances is entirely understandable (I speak as someone who runs a Desire Z) and if one is earning one's "daily bread" in that way one has to follow the money. Currently this means, of course, that the situation is self-reinforcing as long as there is no Android "hero-phone" that begins to attract a similar demographic. Although it has to be said that Sammy's Galaxy series is now beginning to attract the kind of kudos and sales that suggest that such a shift is possible (albeit not certain). One can at any rate remark that it is reasonably obvious that Cupertino are entirely convinced that the only Android competitor (currently) that is any threat to them is Samsung!
@Chris 19 "...android only provides about 20% of their income, compared to 80% for iOS."
I would agree that the acceleration in smartphone ownership that we have been witness to has to a very considerable extent gone Android rather than iPhone (given that it would be a touch unusual for someone to jump straight from a feature phone to a highend phone like Apple's offering) with the consequence that many are to a considerable extent using them as a "feature-phone+". However, that (IMHO) does not take sufficiently into account Apple's traditional demographic which is (whether some of their supporters like it or not) the "well heeled middle classes" in income terms if not that precise demographic in social terms. The last survey I saw of customer groups within "smartphonery" from the States (about ten months ago) indicated that the "typical" Apple customer (ie approximately 50% of their demographic) in the US is male, 25 - 35 years old and lives in a household where the household income is over $100.000 per annum. Given that is the case it seems highly likely that Apple have a larger percentage of customers with significantly above average incomes than the Android os does. In other words the devs do better out of Apple customers because they have more money to spend than is typical amongst Android customers. This of course is hardly surprising since Cupertino have, with considerable success, been courting that demographic for the last two decades or so.
@Loyal Commenter: Indeed, hole in one.
"He stated that since there are plenty of worse things that priests have done, then it is hardly unlikely that they would all have illegal downloads."
That was indeed the essence of my original posting. It was of course sardonic/satirical but (IMHO) addressed a point raised by the the quote of a colloquial French expression of the type "sober as a judge". It was precisely my point that the use of the original French expression was, in one of the most horrible ironies of recent times, most unfortunate - a fact that I attempted to illustrate with, I freely admit, some extremely pointed remarks.
Re: "You've basically accused every single member of the clergy ........"
Re-read the grammatical structure in my original posting again. You have in fact chosen to interpret it in that particular way. Though it has to be said that the large number of paedophile priests assaulting the children of their flocks over the years combined with the large number of churchmen (some at very senior level) who were well aware of what was going on (and in many cases actively protected those swine, making themselves "accessories after the fact" BTW) leaves us with a very large number indeed of priests who should be serving substantial jail sentences. Your pompous indignation is (to say the least of it) misdirected.
@Bumpy Cat Re:"There are hundreds of cases......"
Indeed BC, that was precisely what I was aiming at. Indeed the figure on a global basis is probably in the thousands.
Re: RE: "Actually, given......" Yet more thumbs down?
........we appear to have an entire convocation of rather touchy clergy on the thread today. My earlier postings strike a little to close to home perhaps?
RE: "Actually, given......" A thumbs down?
Is that you Your Holiness?
RE: "only a priest would not yield." Actually, given the record of priests regularly..........
............committing far worse offences than internet piracy I would imagine there is a torrent in every vestry.
Re: "OEMs are Microsoft's customers." No, when it comes down to it.............
..........we are their customers. If MS are at last waking up to that (for whatever reason), so much the better. The OEMs are simply the middlemen. When they finally have absorbed that message the better for all of us.
Whilst one can of course have various opinions about both the new os and............
..............whether or not MS are wise to get into the hardware game in this area I cannot believe that I am the only one who thinks the "Acer" is one of the last OEMs who has any right to be the one leading the charge here.
Re: "Angry Birds has yet to be ported to it, however." Well I did here that the early stuff.........
..........coming via the data link shortly after it landed was a complaint that it had been promised an upgrade to ICS ages ago and still hadn't got it.
Re: "Can't afford to buy apps but can afford to buy the phone"
"One reason is that a large amount of iOS devices in China are ‘jailbroken’, allowing users to download apps for free from alternative ‘app stores’."
Perhaps rather than "can't pay" it is more a question of "won't pay" or "I want to choose"? If the amount of jailbreaking is on the sort of scale hinted at by the article it is possible that the grey market resellers in China (a very significant part of iPhone sales in that country) are routinely offering this as a service to their customers*. If that is the case and the alternative apps are widely available (as implied in the article), then unless Apple can establish the kind of control/influence over its retail distribution in China that it enjoys in Europe and the US, it's app-store model may be under far greater threat in China than anyone (myself included) had so far realised.
*Or a veritable cottage industry of jailbreakers/rooters has arisen - whatever, the end result is the same.
Re: "There are some uses for the "cloud"..." Within the type of limits you have........
.........referred to I agree. Within the private/domestic sphere I use it for syncing and (under certain circumstance) file transfers between locations. Actual main storage? Not a bleeding chance. They'll have to wrest my external hd/disc burner from my cold dead hands etc. etc.
RE:"We know our users spend an incredible amount of time using the Microsoft Office suite"
Memo to Public Relations Dept.
Do have a word with this chap concerning the way he expresses himself.
Re: "Not a PC" What? You are not suggesting that Apple will *copy* this are you?
And there I was thinking that they were purely innovative and revolutionary.
Re: Time to don the brown trousers......I have just now taken them off. This eagle has indeed
..........landed and their data link to the rover appears to be solid. Everything appears to be fine.
".....no further course corrections are possible." Time to don the brown trousers..............
............though how I am going to manage that whilst keeping both my fingers and my toes tightly crossed I do not know. -:)
"That's what you get for £20" and what you get for..........
............being a tight git in the first place. -:P
"Just copy what they do and do it until you get their numbers."
Hmm, what lovely people. Possible copyright theft to add to the possible insider trading scandal we saw here:
RE: "unlikely to cost a meaningful amount" So the fix is an easy one then.......
.........if it's so cheap to fix, no? Correct my logic here if I have missed something but does that not rather imply that the glitch was rather straightforward/obvious and should have been detected before it did damage? Given that it was not, what does this say about what RBS have done to their IT support? The only conclusion I can draw is that RBS have qualified themselves to be awarded the prestigious title of "Knobheads of the Year" by public acclamation.
@goldcd Re: ".........the many people forced to share a working life with him.........."
That is a bloody good point and I will admit had not occurred to me before I read your post. That the "imposter" is possibly/likely a colleague would certainly be frakking embarrassing if they had succeeded in revealing his identity. Indeed it may have been their own lawyers review of the case when they were assessing the likelihood of being able to make the "hacking" charges stick when it suddenly dawned on someone that they couldn't if the "guilty party" could gain this info by legal means. Not surprising that they performed a "screeching u-turn"!
Re: "Shades of......" Well I for one am going to keep my mouth shut from now on.............
............when we read about the latest mallware outbreak etc. I am not going to say a word about the "great unwashed" and their utter refusal to learn basic "pc safety". When employees in a major military organisation, who are themselves (allegedly) highly educated and trained to be security aware are logging onto the biggest source of malicious exploits in known space then there is no bloody hope left at all. "I am on an important military network and I feel like some porn, what can possibly go wrong?"
@Dave 126 That is a fair enough point though I have to say..............
..............that if that was what the author meant it was certainly not clear from the article! -:)
I am not, to say the least of it, any fan of Intel but the following statement............
"Intel is not having a lot of luck in the smartphone sector with its Atom line"
...........is a touch premature isn't it? AFAIK they are are only just beginning to release phones based on Intel's chip. Don't you guys read Reg Hardware? Where the "San Diego" was reviewed about four weeks ago? It had the subheading "Intel’s first smartphone aims to shake up the mid-range market." (My added emphasis). They said further: "a retail version of Intel’s own Gigabyte-built smartphone reference platform built around a hyper-threading 1.6GHz Z2460 Atom "
I know that the mobile tech sector moves very fast but not that flaming fast. I still have no idea how Intel's phone chips are going to do and neither have you. I am afraid that that line was an example of rhubarb journalism. You know, as in the sound actors make when they wish to make it sound as if they are saying something.
Re: ".........sent Nokia shares on an unusual high....."
I am not surprised. You can see the effect that the rumours that Lenovo was a buyer had (at least in part) on the share price. The moment any such negotiations started so would the rumours, rapidly leading to a share price that would cause even Google and Samsung to think twice before making a binding offer.
Re: "Samsung will be preparing a win8 phone release"
Certainly they will. However, considering the great success they are having with the Galaxy S series (behind which a huge head of steam appears to be developing very nicely indeed from the company's point of view) it is a moot point whether or not Samsung will put the same effort behind their WinPhone 8 devices. Even a company the size of Sammy has to prioritise.
Re: "naa" Those who are holding those short positions better hope that they have.........
...........guessed correctly otherwise the apparent scale of those postions suggests that someone is going the take the mother of all baths. The rise in the share price has been very sharp indeed, unless that is followed by a fall that is on near the same scale some of the stripy shirt brigade are going to be in some difficulty when time comes to settle up. Not that that will cause me to shed any tears. -:P
".........sent Nokia shares on an unusual high....."
Therein lies the clue. Whenever a company is in trouble the market sharks try one of two strategies. Attacking a company's share price by various "shorting" tactics or pumping the share price by means of some form of market manipulation. One means to achieve the latter is to spread false rumours in an attempt to create an artificial increase in share value. This approach has been used three times in the last twelve months with Nokia stock. First it was MS themselves who were the alleged suitors, then it was Samsung and now Lenovo. The stripy shirted sharks appear to lack imagination.
Re: "long process to move to a hardware monopoly even if it were possible."
Indeed. Furthermore that word "monopoly" also has resonance here. Although Apple are very big indeed in tablet space they are still a minor player in pc-space as a whole in terms of the number of units shifted. That means that, for the time being at any rate, the competition authorities are not especially worried. However, Redmond is still the dominant software force in personal computers as a whole. If they attempted to move towards the Apple model (except in a very limited way within tablet space) the bells would not just ring at, for example, the DoJ in the States, they would probably register on the Richter scale. For that reason alone MS would likely be bloody careful before they started any major strategic shift of that kind.
Re: "MS doesn't have much in the way of content or services to recoup profits from"
That is indeed a point. However, I would distinguish here between the Windows RT version of the "Surface" where your point indisputably applies and the Win 8 Pro version where Office will not be bundled with the device.
Re: Big supposition there...
Indeed it is. Redmond have already said that they will be pricing those two products at similar price-points to where the OEMs will be selling similar classes of products. This suggests that as long as the OEMs do not have the same insane ambitions as they had when the first Android tablets came out (when they were expecting to be able to charge more than Apple were for the original iPad FFS!) MS is not intending to be particularly aggressive towards its own industry partners as far as pricing is concerned. Furthermore Redmond are not in a position to be an "own producer" (without a substantial and expensive strategic shift that would take several years to implement) in the way Apple are and cannot easily take the place of the OEMs as far as that side of the business is concerned. If of course the OEMs are unwilling to read the memo as far as pricing is concerned (the ultrabook segment being largely an unfortunate example at the moment) then things may change in the longer term. However, it won't be this year or next!
Re:"If I am not wrong ( I could easily be ) they need a working model to have it patented?"
Unfortunately you are mistaken. Sadly the (eminently sensible) requirement that can be summed up as "No working prototype, no patent" is in fact not a requirement. Which is why Cupertino can and do produce a huge stream of concept patents in an attempt to plant a gigantic judicial minefield all over mobile tech space. They are by no means the only offender as far as this tactic is concerned but they are certainly amongst the most assiduous practitioners.
@Magister "Using the whole chicken is perverted" What is more it is............
...........very unfair on the chicken and can lead to confusion over who or what is supposed to be stuffed.
@Andrew Jones 2 "Why is this an Android only issue?"
It is of course not an Android only issue (as you point out yourself and explain why in point 2.). Indeed, the article itself (as far as I can see) does not mention the os at all, it only appears in the subheading. Now why might the subbie (or whoever composed that subheading) have chosen to frame it in that way? I put to you that we all know why it was done that way and we also see the same kind of approach to headlines when it involves Redmond, Cupertino etc. etc. Knowing why of course does not make it any less irritating. -:)
"Zynga has not replied to repeated requests for comment."
Fifth Amendment silence perhaps?
Re: I met a traveller from an antique land
It is a terrific poem. About as evocative as it is possible to write. A timely reminder to all who think that what they know and the times they live in have anything other than a very short (in historical terms) shelf-life.
"I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desart. Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed:
And on the pedestal these words appear:
"My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away."
Re: "singing about gold a lot." Oh please don't. Otherwise the bugger will make..........
.........."Hobbit the Musical" after he has released the director's cut of all three episodes of this one!
Re: Too much padding?
Precisely. LOTR itself of course needed to be a trilogy - it would have been impossible to give it anything like the proper treatment otherwise. Indeed, the extended cut justified itself IMHO, artistically as well as commercially. However, stretching The Hobbit (a novel that I am very fond of BTW) to three films is no more than a very shabby piece of commercial exploitation without the faintest tinge of artistic merit. The novel is a little jewel in it's own right and deserves to be treated as such.
"Aping Apple with custom kit for Surface slabs"
I see. Are we to take from that subheading that Apple invented providing custom accessories with the main device?
"Apple did not immediately reply to a request for comment"
One assumes that nobody at Vulture Central is holding their breath.
"The timing of these insider sales two months before is suspect"
Re: "Things that used to rule the Net." Never mind the Net - there is nothing new..........
...............under the sun. The "Tulipmania" peaked in Holland in 1637 and when it then crashed in ruined a very large number of people. The "valuations" reached the equivalent to a skilled manual worker's annual salary per bulb before it all when tits up. Or the infamous "South Sea Bubble" which reached it's top in about 1720 before "deflating" leaving the shares at about their flotation price (sound familiar?) and the national economy in depression. The net facilitates this kind of mass financial idiocy but the idiocy itself is as old as the hills. The primary difference being is that we now see the effects on a global rather than merely national scale.
@Wensleydale Cheese. RE "I have got to slap your wrists on that one."
You are using the install/update process when installing a new os (when you of course get all, accumulated updates/patches) as an argument? You are suggesting that on "Patch Tuesday" it is a Windows user's regular experience to get several gigs coming down the pipe rather than (order of magnitude) megs? Well, far be it from to hinder you in making an ass of yourself but I would suggest that you re-think that line of argument.
Indeed. In fact paraphrasing the Bard by pointing out that they seem to have been........
.........."hoist upon their own marketing petard" would appear to be in order.
"Far more useful is the new off-line voice typing facility"
Now that is seriously useful. Its not everyone who is particularly comfortable with a virtual keyboard for more than a couple of sentences. Many are of course (I am myself) but there plenty who aren't and I have no doubt that they will welcome this aspect. Apart from anything else there are many people who, for reasons of age and/or infirmity rather than preference, find using an on-screen keyboard very difficult indeed.
Re: Not evil enough
I feel sure that the deployment of any form of J***** B***** is banned under several international conventions. If it isn't, it bloody well should be.
Re: "right where I hold the thing. Very useful..."
You're holding it wrong.
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