2226 posts • joined 6 Nov 2009
"If Elop was not a Trojan horse, then he would have kept Symbian and Meego alive"
What you appear to be saying is that because he has taken decisions that you don't agree with then that proves he is Redmond's trojan horse? I do not know where to begin to explain the fallacy in the logic of that argument. Apart from anything else it is based on an assumption that the man is a villain because he does not share your opinions. You must be an absolute joy to be down the pub with if you are of the view that anyone who disagrees with you must be doing it for the worst possible motives.
Interesting to note in passing that Elop left after a year at Redmond.
If he left because MS' corporate culture was not to his liking (as implied in the article) then that does rather beg the question as far as his alleged role as a "trojan horse" at Nokia is concerned, hmm? Perhaps we might even focus (when the issue comes up) on evaluating his decisions at Nokia on their own merits/demerits rather than the tin foil hat speculation that a certain number here are so fond of.
I will freely admit that the "blue movie" subheading went over my head for several minutes.....
............until I remembered what "azure" literally means. I was clearly not awake at the time!
Re: "They would be the fastest, loudest birds ever witnessed."
Would we be talking about a "sonic squawk" when they broke the sound-barrier?
@phear 46 Re: "pics.......Or it didn't happen."
Well, well, well. It does seem that Mr Jobs regarded his company's patent porfolio.........
.................as a weapon of offence rather than defence. A weapon to be used even when there does not appear to have been any legitimate grounds to deploy it. He was clearly prepared to use it in order to extort "cooperation" from other companies even when there was no genuine IP issue involved. Something to think about in the context of Apple's judicial carpet bombing of their main rival in the industry over the past two years perhaps?
"It is interesting that the shear scale of this kind......" I hope I may be forgiven for.....
.........contributing another story from film history of the same period. When a certain Mr Lucas had persuaded Alec Guinness to take on the role of Obi-Wan Kenobi in the original Star Wars film he discovered at a vital point in the project that he was running out of "cash up front" and was forced to beg Sir Alec to accept a percentage of the gross instead - to which Sir AG most unwillingly agreed (a story that he told against himself many times afterwards) . The rest is history as was Sir Alec's very comfortable retirement.
@frank ly Re: "Ninja Accountants" It is interesting that the shear scale of this kind......
........of behaviour is (relatively) new. However, companies using those kinds of shenanigans are not anything new qualitatively (so to speak). We all remember what a huge success the first Alien movie was (total world wide takings by 2004 had hit $185,000,000 almost 17 times what the film cost to make) and certainly such luminaries as Sigourney Weaver and John Hurt were at the outset feeling pretty pleased with themselves because they were on a percentage. To their utter astonishment and considerable fury Twentieth Century Fox claimed that the film had (when all extraneous expenses had been taken into account) almost made a loss. They had unfortunately not negotiated a percentage of the gross turnover but of the profits. Hence today there is not an actor in the profession who has the clout to be on a percentage who does not insist on a percentage of the gross. Fox' fairly shameless attempt to do an end run round the IRS had ended up robbing the very actors who had contributed to much to the film's success in the first place. The sheer scale of these practices today however are a wholly different level of challenge to society.
@Nick Ryan: You are surely not suggesting that there are companies out there........
"unless XP SP3 is installed along with one or more updates"
.................running XP without both SP 2 and SP3 - say it ain't so. Nobody could be that stupid could they?
@Oengus "Maybe even make the battery the case" Absolutely, in fact if the "back half"....
............was all battery one could achieve very efficient use of case volume but at the same time have changeable batteries. Or, (to pick up directly on your suggestion and accepting non-changeable batteries), if the entire case construction excluding (of course) the screen were the battery that might pave the way for phones with a charge capacity not currently achievable.
" “shape-conformable” polymer electrolytes." Hmm......Might this not pave the way........
...........for larger volumes of battery in a mobile phone case? By that I mean that if it is possible to (so to speak) "cast" the battery in the casing (as if the casing were a mould) such that the battery occupies otherwise unused volume because is not rigid and not imposing its own shape of the process of constructing the phone it surely would mean more battery in a given case size. IE A larger charge capacity for a phone of a given size than is possible with a conventional rigid battery. In principle one could imagine that the back half of the phone would be in a certain sense "all battery". Just a thought.
@jason 7 RE: "I was being generous I know." I would argue that you were being positively.....
...saintly! As for the elk I suspect that that king of the forest would likely make cover before our "correspondent" managed to hit him. Though he might manage entirely randomly to fell a few trees while he was at it. :)
@jason 7 RE: "Did you not mean 50 yards?" I would imagine the he in common with.........
................most "pistoleers" would have difficulty hitting the proverbial barn (let alone its door), even at 50 yards, with any kind of side-arm. I can see him now going over the top* with his DE in one hand and a Ruger Blackhawk in the other - in his fantasies.
*I am not sure whether that expression is used in the way I meant it in US English. If not, then for our friends across the pond it is World War One slang used by British soldiers meaning to leave your trench and attack across "no man's land".
@GitMeMyShootinIrons RE: "A simple option 'Touch or Mouse' would have been marvellous -
.....................perhaps with driver support so if you convert a laptop to tablet it switches. Perhaps Win8 SP1...?"
There I agree 110% despite the fact that I am nowhere near as hostile to Win8 as many here are. That type of change and at the very least a decent tutorial with the os is the absolute minimum as far as I am concerned. In addition of course the capacity to boot directly to desktop and to use "apps" in window form in desktop such they can be used like any other program when one is in "keyboard and mouse" mode.
"They know who they are" Given that all are at it..............
.............whether one is talking about Redmond, Cupertino or Mountain View (and their associate hardware producers) I think that any of the fanbois from the various sects would do well to keep a low profile on this one.
@EvilGav 1 RE:"It's not a like for like match anyway." No it is not, however I see that a ........
...............seriously sad person downvoted you for pointing out that which was clearly the case. Some saddos clearly do not like tackling facts. Upvote delivered in an attempt to even up the behaviour of the knobheads.
"At that rate, it will take Microsoft nearly 67 years to match the 40 billion apps"
That paragraph almost, but not quite, gives the impression that MS should be within handshake distance of matching Apple's download figures already. As a matter of interest how quickly do you think that MS should be able to catch up? Just so that we can see what your bench-mark of "success" would be.
"Nielsen's figures may be taken with a grain of salt"
RE: "Buy one with Windows 8 on it." I agree - I am about as likely to buy an RT tablet............
...................as I am to buy an iPad. For precisely the same reasons.
Re: "He's writing documentaion for phones that are NOT YET RELEASED."
Yes indeed he is, thus placing himself in the convenient position of rendering it impossible for all other contributors to the thread to evaluate for themselves the comparison he is making. In practice he is comparing an iPhone/iOS with some unknown Android phone loaded (he says) with jelly bean, likely skinned with some manufacturers UI etc etc. We have no means of validating or disputing his comparison from experience that some of us might have had with a known Android phone that has actually been released. Oh and there is no need to shout - just use italics as in "not yet released" - much pleasanter.
Re: "Pick up a Nexus 4 and tell us it's not better.......................
.................in every single area than an iPhone5, but at half the pricetag."
I entirely agree about the various positive qualities of the Nexus 4 but your comment concerning the price-tag is a major fail. Google are selling the Nexus in limited numbers at a near cost price (they have "only" shipped 400k units in the three months since release so as not to piss off their OEM partners). They could not (at current costs in today's market) possibly sell the Nexus at the current price as normal business practice. They are essentially selling the phone at cost to raise the profile of the latest iteration "jelly bean" - and as far as one can tell they are playing a blinder as far as generating attention is concerned. I have rarely if ever seen so much coverage for a non-Cupertino device in the media (rivalled only by the attention that the SGIII has generated - we can expect a writ from Apple any time now).
Re: "Bin Laden promoted hate and aggression, it was a perfectly valid juxtapostition"
Only if we forget the being guilty of mass murder bit.
"Sinofsky preaching success, it akin to Bin Laden preaching pacifism."
In addition of course to the implicit comparison of Redmond with Al-Qaeda. Ever thought of improving your postings by toning down the hyperbole? Unless of course you actually do believe that Redmond's anti-trust violations can be compared to 9/11?
Re: The Future but not as you knew it
For one terrifying moment after reading your post I felt that I could almost understand Martian.
@dogged RE: "What tinfoil-hatted excuse for a reason do you offer, AC?"
He has none to offer - entirely standard for that type of anti-MS post. Of course there are many things we can criticise that company for, by definition. However, that type of posting is typical of the gold card members of the Anti-Microsoft Choral Howling Society, end of. The FTC are so obviously not Redmond's friends that one wonders why he/she/it bothered to post that.
@mad_dr Re: "Further details emerge": Highly entertaining. However, on a practical note....
...........whatever Apple expected to be able to
con their customers for charge their customers it is highly unlikely that the thieves would be able to fence their ill gotten gains for more than 10 - 15% of the notional retail value. They would be very lucky to get more than 100k english for that lot, max.
I think that these (often very funny) "lyrical confusions" are driven by both the............
...........the artist's endeavours to fit the lyrics to the musical focrm the producer wants and/or the artist's own idiosyncratic take as far as pronunciation goes. The Nat King Cole classic "Mona Lisa" contains the following lines:
"Are you warm, are you real, mona lisa?
Or just a cold and lonely lovely work of art? "
If you listen to it it sounds for all the world as if he sung "are you warm are you rill mona lisa?" which does sound a touch peculiar. Oh, Happy New Year everyone!
"It's actually individuals whose rights are being eroded,............
.................. along with their freedom to take their creativity to a digital marketplace - and it's individuals who are being punished."
Indeed Andrew. It is precisely that that I find highly ironic. We see time after time postings that make it clear the the person concerned thinks that Micro$BastardSoft is the biggest danger we face. That company (as we all know from painful experience) are scarcely Sunday-school boys and girls but the utter obsession of those posters to the exclusion of all else is about as stupid as it is possible to be. The issues of privacy, freedom of speech and a genuine free-market such that the buggers cannot screw us over are rather more important than which individual company we hate the most. Anyone who believes that any example of "BigCorp" is worth their "loyalty" is deluding themselves.
Perhaps realising that there are times of day and places where.............
.............your fashionable accessory should not be on display might be a smart move (advice which of course applies to all property that is easy for thieves to turn over).
@Sean Timarco Baggaley Re: "Shark. Jumped." I am fairly suprised that an old Reg hand......
......like you would react to a very obvious wind-up in such a fashion. This kind of article is a speciality of El Reg - we all know that don't we? It was very clearly irresistible for a entirely standard Reg piss-take, I am surprised that en experienced member like yourself allowed this to get to you.
"angular design with floor-to-ceiling windows built into the hull."
Installed by means of Boot Camp one assumes.
I apologise for hitching my wagon quite so shamelessly to the first post but I...........
..............thought that those contributing to the thread would like to know that Ars Technica are reporting that Cupertino appear to be rowing backwards at high speed. I shall say no more - information only.
". I was shocked to find that it is still running Android 2.3." Let me see now, you...........
......... are an "advanced user" (as the PR boys put it) and know enough to be able to "root and rom" a device yet you managed to buy that phone without being aware of which iteration of Android it was running? You were "shocked"? Hmm, for some reason I detect a certain aroma coming off of your posting.
Re: Resources "Yet another non-related reply to the first comment from LarsG" Had you......
.........not posted that as an AC I might have had more sympathy for your point. Or was your posting some form of highly advance post-modernist irony that I am intellectually unequipped to appreciate?
@Eadon Re: "Microsoft the patent troll - and it's slave, Nokia" Since anybody with more......
............than two neurones firing at the same time is perfectly well aware that Nokia got itself into the shit well before the "sweaty, chair-throwing, fat bastard's bum-boy, Elop" (as he is so affectionately and objectively known amongst the gold card members of the Anti-Micro$oft Choral Howling Society) came anywhere near the Finnish company one would have thought you had better things to do than post that kind of crap. Nokia is not any kind of patent troll - they have never displayed the kind of behaviour that Cupertino have over the past two years, however you feel about the fact that they are now allied with Redmond.
One does get the feeling that Apple's strategy is beginning to unravel.
Ars Technica is also covering it:
If indeed it is the case that "pinch to zoom", "tap to zoom" are looking dodgy and given that "the patent office ruled in October that the '381 patent ("rubber banding" or "bounce back" feature) should never have issued." then it does look as if Cupertino's attempts to plant "anti-competitor mines" over the whole of the mobile device market is beginning to come apart at the seams. It now looks certain that their attempts to lock Samsung out of the US market are doomed to failure and it is now increasingly likely that their entire approach is, at last, coming under scrutiny by the American authorities. If these key patents are invalidated then Cupertino are going to have to think again. A modest suggestion from yours truly, concentrate on what you have been good at - making kit that your very loyal customers clearly like very much. I personally do not own one single piece of Apple hardware but I doubt that that keeps them awake at nights. However, I know that an awful lot of folks do like what Apple produce - they should concentrate on doing just that.
"wouldn't be surprised to learn that there's more than a little back-room wrangling going on."
I would not be at all surprised if Cupertino decided to settle with Samsung for rather less than the one billion that that joke of a jury awarded them. Despite what a particular section of their supporters might hope or believe Judge Koh cannot in fact stop Samsung appealing the case higher if they choose to do so. That might very well have considerable consequences as I am quite sure Apple's lawyers have already advised their clients. The issue is whether Cupertino have the brains to sweeten the pot sufficiently in any negotiations that may, or may not, be going on. Koh's refusal to allow Apple to use the judgement to shut Samsung out of the US market is significant and more of a defeat for Apple and SJ's "nuclear war strategy" than might be obvious at first reading. It is now simply a matter of bickering over how much loose change Apple will be able to boast that they got as a result of that fatuous trial. The judge in this instance realised that she could not support Apple's underlying strategy - an embargo against Samsung's products.
@CountZero Re: "May contain Comic Sans related humour" Sorry, I did not get........
................the point of that joke.*
*All right, I know I should be ashamed of that pun, I'll get my coat.
@Rampant Spaniel RE: "This is what drives me nuts................
..........That is an outright admission the law was wrong and the convictions were unsound so why not automatically quash them all?"
I am very much afraid that there is as usual dirty politics involved. The current leadership of the Tory party are very worried by the gains being made by UKIP. That party has a very homophobic political line and is making all the running in that area. In addition the current Conservative parliamentary party also has a strong anti-gay lobby and they are also coming under considerable pressure from a powerful and very reactionary lobby within their own Tory constituency parties. It is highly unlikely that the present government under Cameron would engage in a mass expunging of these convictions against gay males pre-1967 because their own backwoodsmen within and without parliament would go apeshit and the Tories would leak even more votes to UKIP.
@AC 00.35 GMT RE "Foxy boy"
If it's "!foxy boys" you are after I suggest you visit your local all male bathhouse - something tells me that you are definitely not my type.
@James O'Shea "Yes, there really was a shoot-out in a Wallyworld parking lot..."
Good grief - there I was thinking that a car sticker I had seen "honk if you're reloading" was simply a somewhat macabre joke!
"She was lucky to be tasered, I'd have punched her in the face"
Funny thing you know but upon reading your comment I suddenly experienced a powerful urge to treat you to 50,000 volts for some reason - can't think why.
@Tom 35 RE "How is this copying Apple's playbook?........
.............Apple don't make any of the parts found in their stuff. Apples extra value comes from controlling the content that comes after they sell the phone............"
I agree entirely. There is a very significant difference between Cupertino's model and what Sammy are doing. This "they are all copying Apple" meme is lazy thinking. Indeed I would go further in saying that Apple's rivals in the market-place are these days trying find a way of challenging Cupertino that does not involve simply copying them because it has dawned on them that that will not work. Look at the way Samsung has pursued the "if there is a niche (hardware-wise) we will fill it" - that is definitely not Apple's style yet that is how the original "Galaxy Note" came into being. There were plenty laughing then when Sammy launched that "monster", they are not laughing now, hmm?
"Are we all becoming fanboys? If you broaden the term...................
...................beyond those who favour Apple products".
Err.. as far as I can recall the term "fanboi" or "fanboy" referred to any and all who were
psychopathically obsessed with excessively keen on something. It has only been relatively recently that I have seen the word used to specifically refer to the keenest amongst Apple's customers. There are "fanboys" everywhere - you only have to look at any thread involving a product from one of the majors and you will see plenty of examples of slanging matches between the various denominations. "Fanboi is as fanboi does" if I may be permitted to paraphrase my dear old gran in this context.
While I would agree in principle that the decline in the.............
...........centrality of Windows in the modern computing world is a positive development I wonder how many here have thought of the implications with regard to what comes next. Anyone actually happy with the prospect of Mountain View and/or Cupertino controlling the market is not actually thinking things through. Indeed it could get worse if "the big three" in their joint bid for Kodak's patents are edging towards a "peace settlement". Such a settlement (if it came) would be on terms that suited the three of them, not me and thee. They would in practice be very happy to "divide the city and their rackets" in the manner of three Mafia dons wanting to avoid a gang war and the mutual attrition and bloodshed that goes with one. We are seeing a major paradigm shift within computing systems, that much we can agree on and it is highly likely that the conventional control that Redmond has had is on the wane. However, I am not at all sanguine about what comes next.
Re: "AC, because, well, I work for a little known company that exports it's tax"
I am often somewhat sarky about AC postings - however in your situation I entirely understand!
@tonysmith RE:"China and Pakistan are very close as are the people "
I am sure that Pakistan values its relationship to China such that this would not have been anything that one would describe as "officially sponsored" and indeed there is as you point out a pretty cordial relationship between to two populations. However, Pakistan does have its own wealthy middle and upper/middle class with their spoiled brats just like in the West. That section of Pakistani "yoof" are heavily influenced in their use of English by both the British educational influence and the influence of American English. The style that some have referred to could well have come from a group youngsters from Islamabad or wherever within Pakistan. Though of course it could equally well be a bunch of "kiddie-hackers" from any part of the English speaking Western world on the basis of the same "textual analysis". :)
@DavCrav RE: "AC? Nice touch with the whole having a go at me on an online forum........
.............in a thread about defamation.
Ouch! All I can say is you hit that one right in the bull.
Re: "Does it run whisper quiet - thought not." I take your point about it not being an.........
...............all-in-one. However, it most certainly does run whisper quiet because in common with many others who get pleasure from building their own I made a point of learning to do it properly rather than just throwing it together.
Re: " that has nothing to do with electronic noise issues."
As far as the motivations of the FAA are concerned you are in all likelihood right. However, I am obliged to (partially) take issue with another point in the article inasmuch than I do not see that the issue of possible interference from electronic devices can be regarded as solely the result of poor shielding on those pieces of kit. If the onboard control systems are so poorly shielded that there is in reality a quantifiable risk that I could bring down a Boeing 747 with my Desire Z then I have to say that the manufacturers of the aircraft concerned and their electronics suppliers also have a responsibility. Indeed if it that shielding is of such mediocre quality that we are potentially at risk I think we should be very worried already - let alone when the guy in the seat next to us is permitted to talk (very loudly and annoyingly) to his office/wife/misstress on his latest shiny.
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