2274 posts • joined 6 Nov 2009
I rather suspect that.............
"But what's more likely is that some people have been engaging in anti-social behaviour online and Twitch wants to put a stop to it."
..........Twitch is worried about people exhibiting all too "social" behaviour!
If it is the case that Redmond has begun to understand the concept.......
..........of enlightened self-interest then that is to be welcomed. As far as I am concerned (and this applies to any other example of BigCorp that may, at last, be showing some glimmerings of intelligence) the jury is still out. However, in contrast to some I am at least willing to believe that it is possible.
"Microsoft sounds pretty sincere these days when it talks about openness and respecting its customer choices. With plenty of pundits recommending multi-cloud strategies, it's hard to see Redmond fighting this even though it can't be much fun to have competitors in your front yard."
Re "............for which Sinofsky and his team will deserve credit..........."
No he fucking won't and I speak as someone who has had very little problem with Win 8. However, from the point of view of his company and its relationship to both its enterprise customers and the "great unwashed" of the retail sector Sinofsky's utter refusal to adjust his "vision" regardless was a serious downer for Redmond. Even though I personally got on well with Win 8 I am not blind to the fact that it has been a dog on the market and for various reasons succeeded in offending many very loyal MS customers. Sinofsky deserves no credit what so ever for his "contribution" end of.
@ tnovelli "............corporate IT departments will disable most of the new security........"
Indeed and at the same time employees in those same IT-departments who are members here at El-Reg will be logging on (behind AC badges naturally) telling us what insecure crap Windows is. Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.
The US Federal authorities operate by Caeser's dictum.
His writ runs wherever his legions can march. They have in practice very little more respect for the sovereignty of other nations than such people as Putin have.
Looking aside from the tempations of tribalism (which some can clearly not resist)........
........this is a very interesting report. If Macs (which whilst their sales have been on a gentle upward trend in recent years cannot be described as having gangbusters sales) are outselling the Fruity company's tablet which has been the biggest single seller in the upper end of the market since it was launched (suggesting that the i-Pads current sales are to say the least of it less than stellar) then this indeed says something about the post-pc era - like its a load of spherical objects. What appears to be happening is that, in common with the private retail pc, the replenish rate is not what it once was and that is not entirely surprising. Anyone running, for example, an adequately specced Win 7 pc has absolutely no need to upgrade their home office at the present time and it would appear that tablet customers (we are seeing the same phenomenon with Sammy's high-end offerings) are not endlessly buying new kit if they are satisfied for the time being with what they have got. The post-pc era may one day dawn but the degree of frenzied prognosticating amongst some in the media and other parts of the blogosphere is very clearly showing itself to have been largely powered by hot air (and/or other less pleasant bodily substances).
Your political point was?
"Good old Socialist republic of Scotland attitude, if you don’t like something ban it."
We are getting this kind of crap in England as well (as is very clear from the article) and the last time I checked the British Nasty Party was still in charge here.
Re: Re-read the klingon software development guide
Highly entertaining - see icon.
Re: "This was doing so well until............"
Indeed. The reaction of the competition authorities will be very interesting. Not because the situation in the US market with telcos in control has been exactly edifying but because we would be looking at a degree of stranglehold over a communications/computing market that means something very different in terms of the future (scale-wise and qualitatively) than when Redmond ended up in control of the pc-market. Just think about the implications of this - this is not remotely amusing.
Nielson ratings just shit themselves.
I think that this needs a bit of translation work.
"Wearables allow conference calls 'while rocking a baby to sleep'"
"Yet another means by which your employer gets to own your life."
@qwarty "what most people would expect of a successor to the Yoga 2 etc."
You have some good points there, which is why I was interested in what might turn up in the run up to Xmas. However, I have no problem in waiting until next year to see what might be on offer before I open my wallet and make several hundred moths homeless!
Clearly a droolworthy piece of kit.
However, I am more interested in the fact that it includes Intel's latest M-series processor. It will be very interesting to see what comes onto the market in the run up to what our cousins on the other side of the pond call the "holiday season"
@Ledswinger Re:"Bill Gates.........and as software architect responsible for W8"
That is a very interesting point. It would be fascinating to know whether it was in fact Gates that was the reason why Ballmer could not reign in Sinofski until it was too late for Win 8 and in the end had to fall on his sword as part of the price for ensuring that the former head of the Windows division was made to walk the plank shortly after the launch of W8. It is very difficult to believe that Sinofski could have gotten away with quite the degree of "fuck you" attitude towards the internal critics at Redmond (and they did exist, not everyone was exactly happy with his iPad obsessions - ie Surface 2 on ARM running Windows RT) without some very powerful backing from very high up in the company's hierarchy. Given that Ballmer and Gates had, apparently, been at loggerheads for years it is unlikely that it was both of them. So the question is, who was Sinofski's "sponser" - Gates or Ballmer?
Very good post by the way Ledswinger - well argued and logical.
Your "best idea was to quit reading."?
You should have read on. Ballmer's open acknowledgement of his responsibility for the Longhorn debacle was very interesting indeed.
Re: Time to don the old Tin Foil Chapeau
If it is time to don the hat of paranoia then I am there with you on this occasion. The whole situation smells, big time.
Hmm, this (or something like it, whoever built it) could in the not too distant future.....
"it's also far too expensive and massive for any actual living room to accommodate."
The games arcade of the future maybe? Even if it would be too expensive for most people's homes there would appear to be a business opportunity here. Your high-street holo-deck emporium perhaps?
@Khaptain I take your point with regard to..........
...... "Github accounts, email accounts and possibly testing VPN connections which would be valid scenarios for testing."
Those are indeed valid points, however I am still concerned that people (who are either professional techies or enthusiastic amateurs) download this kind thing without reading the small print. If "geeks" do that kind of thing what hope do we have of ever persuading the "great unwashed" that one of the most important parts of good security is using some basic common sense. Installing this without reading the EULA is not much more impressive than those idiots who salivate and click the moment they see a "free porn" link.
Frankly speaking Khaptain if anyone is doing their banking............
...........or other security sensitive tasks on a pre-beta like this technical preview then they are frakking brain dead. As far as this particular case is concerned you have to choose (of your own free will) to download and install the TP, choose (of your own free will) to sign up for the insider program and finally not bother to read the EULA in order for this to come as a horrible shock. To sum up: Anyone who accepts an invitation from any example of BigCorp to become one of their "partners" without reading the small print very carefully indeed should not be allowed out of the house without a note from their mum.
I have seen some brain-dead comments in my time but this takes the biscuit.
"I've never seen or used a windoze phone but I know they are rubbish and won't be buying one. Thanks."
"I have never used it, I know nothing about it but I still know its rubbish". Pardon? Are you in fact capable of walking straight and chewing gum at the same time?
@ Anomalous Cowshed "The number of times my smartphone has crashed............."
I have had four different WP phones since WP7 came out and I do not remotely recognise the problems you are experiencing. My current is a Lumia 1020 and it has performed without problems the whole time so far. If you are getting regular crashing I am forced to ask you what the hell you doing with that phone. I also have to ask why you bought several WP phones for your family without trialling one for yourself first before laying out so much money - if your experience has indeed been so terrible it would have been a good idea to evaluate the system properly first. hmmm....? I hope you will forgive me but I get a certain whiff of ordure from your "contribution".
@Not Terry Wogan Re:"Finding a dolphin who'll let you swim with and bugger him...."
If he managed the act whilst holding his breath and not drowning it would be even more impressive!
Re: "How soon we forget the fallen."
In that particular gentleman's case - not soon enough for me. After he got defenestrated by a special Vulture squad the use of caps lock here at El Reg hit an all time low.
*My choice of icon? It would have really pissed him off.
Re:"No comparison to The Cube?"
At last I have finally found someone who actually watched that one as well as me! Other than that I have already told "you know who" to notify me when its available.
@Phoenix50 Re: Moving apps
"Mary J Foley reported that Microsoft said the current build has only 10% of new features in it."
Indeed. Redmond have said openly that this is only (at this stage) a portion of the final *construction" and expecting (as some apparently do - or pretend to) that this or that should be present now if not sooner, is disingenuous to say the least. I have just started to test this build and I do not remotely claim that I yet have any (for or against) conclusions. So far it appears to be impressively stable (for a pre-beta) and is chundering away happily without causing me any grief. How this develops and to what extent Redmond will in reality listen to those giving feedback remains to be seen. It is far too early to draw any conclusions.
Re: " I hope it does make a difference this time."
There I think we can entirely agree! :)
Re:" it's no silver bullet. Far from it"
Given that it is in fact a pre-beta release which they openly state is substantially incomplete at this stage, what else would you expect? I'm currently trialling it and I wouldn't dream of drawing any conclusions, positive or negative at this stage. It all depends on what they now do in the development process and the extent to which they take any notice of the techies/devs etc. etc. who are involving themselves in the process.
"Thank you for making me google Christina Hendricks.."
You had to google Christina Hendricks? Wow! Are sure you are hetero?
@BigAndos Re:"...........no one sane buys a microsoft OS before SP1....."
Well, that was certainly justified with regard to XP. The release version was as buggy and unstable as hell and could best be described as a beta. It was considerably less horrible after SP1 and became a genuinely usable OS (in its time and context) with SP2 (I ignore SP3 because that was largely a roll-up of previous updates). Vista most of us prefer to forget (with or without service packs) and Win7 was damn good right out of the box. Win8? I think I will let that one go without comment - a number of fellow members of our little congregation here at Vulture Hall get into something of a lather on that subject! We will see - that is why I am interested in testing the Technical Preview.
@BigAndos Re: "..........I hope they reviewing the pricing a bit."
Well their pricing for Win 8 Pro (a period of special offer it has to be noted of course) was the keenest they'd ever sold a new Windows edition for. Furthermore, most of the jungle telegraph on the net does seem to be indicating that they will be fairly radical with WinTen especially toward customers with Win7 or Win8. That is not too hard to believe given that (whatever one personally feels about Win8) they have something of a marketing hole to dig themselves out of and their ambitions for the future, one experience across all devices plus the cloud would seem to predicate something fairly "encouraging" with regard to WinTen pricing. Bluntly put, they cannot afford to fuck up with this one, especially in terms of the enterprise market - that is alpha and omega for their (still) new CEO and I am assuming (as a working hypothesis) that he is smart enough to realise that he has to a) deliver a user experience that buries the hostility the Win8 provoked* and b) set prices that will really cause people to sit up and take notice.
*I personally am not anywhere near as hostile to Win8 as many who post here clearly are but that does not blind me to the objective fact that 8 pissed off a lot of techies (both professional and amateur) and thoroughly confused a lot of the great retail unwashed. This is something that Redmond absolutely has to do something about.
Re: Looking forward to playing with the dev preview!
Me too. Got a cheap and cheerful notebook equipped with a touchscreen that I use for this kind of testing. (IE I don't care that much if a possibly unstable build bricks it - albeit temporarily). It will certainly be useful when discussing the os here at El Reg - after all one wouldn't want to post a comment on something one knows bugger all about - although that does not seem to stop some people. ;-)
Re: Had you forgotten that when MS fracked up recently over offering the proper choices.......
I do not know what happened here but my post was a reply to "stephajn".
Had you forgotten that when MS fracked up recently over offering the proper choices.......
...............of browser to those in Europe who had bought a new Windows pc Monkey Boy himself had to ring Brussels and grovel? Regardless, that fuck up is going to cost Redmond several billion dollars (as it should - they did indeed fuck up) and I see no reason why Google should be treated any differently.
Re "The only thing most people know........."
Only if you define "most people" as co-identical with the BWRP.*
*Barking Wing of the Republican Party..
Re: "So..." No old chap.
It is Redmond recognising that, to coin a paraphrase (sic), the times they have been a-changin. It is in fact a sign of the times when a classic example of American tech "BigCorp" no longer considers it worthwhile to hold such a conference in the US itself.
I have to say that this is...........
.........a most good humoured thread. I have had a good chuckle over several of the posts!
".. I can't be the only one who's seen the prices of the new iPhones..........."
No, amongst those of us who bother to examine and compare properly, either because we are professional techies or (like myself) are self-educated amateur techies, the prices concerned (unless one is wholly committed to the Apple ecosystem, which is fair enough - each to their own and all that) are in fact eye-watering and you are definitely not alone in that opinion.
I am as keen on tech as most here and (almost) always willing to try something new.
However, until the banks, retailers etc show that they have actually learned something about security with the systems that are already in place it will be a very cold day in hell before I touch NFC/phone-based payments with the thin end of a very long barge-pole. Oh and no, I do not care if that makes me seem like a Luddite.
I do think that both Samsung and LG should grow up...........
..........or at the very least they should try to persuade their employees to grow up. Oh and no, I am not remotely "anti-Android" just in case the usual suspects are tempted to start howling. On the contrary, of the four mobiles we have (two primaries, two back-ups) three of them are Android phones. However, the behaviour of these persons is unbelievably embarrassing - both companies should deal with them.
I agree with the author.
Yes, Apple make quality hardware. There is no question about that.* However, the subsidy model in the US where Apple has been able to offload virtually all its production/marketing risk onto the telcos who then offload it onto the punters in semi-hidden form, has been crucial to their dominance in the US market. This of course has a huge impact (because of the large amount of publicity/news stories this generates) in terms of enabling Cupertino to dominate the world marketing/news-stroking agenda in a way they otherwise would not have been able to. One would get the impression that the iPhones are ubiquitous all over planet earth, not so. There is (for example) no, repeat no country in Europe including the UK that comes any where near reflecting US conditions.** Any change to the sales/pricing model within the telco market in the US will present some very interesting challenges for Apple Corp.
*Declaration: I have not owned anything manufactured by Apple in twenty years.
** Which explains why when faced with Samsung's success in the States Cupertino's reaction was hysterical judicial carpet-bombing - they are terrified of any serious market challenge on their home-turf, it is that important to them.
"Hated"? I do not honestly think that the public invested any strong emotions.............
......in Amazon's mobe at all. The impression I get from threads in non-tech magasines attached to consumer articles about the product is that hoi poloi greeted Bezos' efffort with complete disinterest - a response that IMHO is far more deadly for their image/strategy.
What I want is a high quality OLED panel in the 55 - 60 inch range...........
.......... connected via a single "OneConnect TV interface break-out box" (to coin a phrase). It should be slim, light-weight (I should in practice be able to hang it on the wall one-handed - yes they can build such a device) and fit flush to the wall. What they can stuff is:
1. Their sodding speakers - I did not buy a reasonably costly home-theatre/hifi system to put up with that garbage/weight/bezel-penalty and have the dubious privilege of paying more to the TV-producer concerned than would otherwise be the case.
2. I am not interested in their ideas of what "smart" might mean - I am smart enough to connect a pc to it (and build it my self for that matter - the pc that is, not the telly :P)
3. They can shove their bendy tellies where the sun doesn't shine - a key element of the modern display for me is to be able to mount it flush to the wall with as little physical projection out into the room as possible and as wide a sweet spot as can be achieved to ensure that those watching it do not have to practically sit in each other's laps.
"I would say if you have people queuing outside your shops for weeks....."
You might, I would not. Indeed, I might opine that such needy behaviour is the very antithesis of "cool".
The gentleman's thumb may simply be protecting his own career...............
...............or that of his "contact".
@ goldcd Re: Or anybody you're about to hand over stock options to
Indeed, shock horror, risk-venture CEO is honest with his investors. If their response was to shit themselves and bail out that says all we need to know about the modern stock-market. In addition to the amazing advantages of the "Anglo-American" model of modern capitalism.
Can we not agree on something, several things?
1. We all have different user cases - let us all enjoy the formfactor/OS we prefer.
2. All Analists (sic) are tossers.
3. Introducing totally extraneous issues on a thread is pta.
I suppose that we should hope that Mr and Mrs Ray..........
......... are not fans of the band Police or I very much fear we can guess what they would name a son if they had one.
@Alister: Indeed, one could perhaps illustrate this idiocy by the following, (imaginary?)......
A: I am really pissed.
B: Why is that?
A: I have paid fire insurance for a whole year.
B: Why are you pissed about that?
A: My house hasn't burnt down yet, total waste of money.
It would be nice to see Sony and HTC giving Sammy a run for their money.........
...................in the Android market in the US. My good lady runs an Xperia Z2 and is very happy with it - a sentiment that I heartily agree with even though my primary is a Lumia 1020 - we are an ecumenical household. I wish Sony the best of luck in a very difficult market
Well, no I'm not in favour of thumping people as a general rule but.......
"As for the potential for getting punched on the nose if you walk into a bar wearing Glass... well, idiots get thumped all the time for lesser reasons and anyone who shows such a staggering lack of social grace will get no sympathy for me."
.......if you did walk into a bar with a camera and start photographing perfect strangers without their say-so that is very like what would happen. When equipped as a glasshole however a certain type is going to assume that:
A. He cannot see whether you are using the camera or not.
B. He will then insist that you take them off so that you couldn't take any.
C. He will then thump you if/when you refuse.
The old tradition (from a very long time ago) that it is unfair to hit someone wearing glasses will take on a whole new meaning in as much as those wearing glasses will be considered to be fair game in certain circles.
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