real time co-authoring
Can someone please does any tell me one what is the use case of real-time time document collab co-authoring of the document... bloody stop doing that, no you, I was here first don't hit the sub
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Can someone please does any tell me one what is the use case of real-time time document collab co-authoring of the document... bloody stop doing that, no you, I was here first don't hit the sub
I thought this was an article about Steve Ballmer popping in for a visit?
Though I'm sure it is all very serious for people that enjoy wearing nice suits and sitting in the corner office, to me it is like a roller coaster at a fun park.
(since I'm not invested) - well apart from retirement thingies handled by third party so I have no idea or care - in fact super an seems a bit like taxes - they may bring about good or not, you won't know till your too old to do anything about it...
Anyway, of course all those companies are worth a fraction of what they were 30 mins ago. In the time that half the staff have read the paper and had a coffee, the fundamentals have clearly changed. I think they should make the market trading even faster - faster than light with those fancy new laser techniques. Then they truly might disappear up their own black hole, and we'd be all richer for it!
1But concerning the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that ye should be written to, 2for ye know perfectly well yourselves, that the day of [the] Win10 so comes as a thief by night. 3When they may say, Peace and safety, then sudden destruction comes upon them, as travail upon her that is with child or work colleagues; and they shall in no wise escape. 4But *ye*, brethren, are not in darkness, that the day should overtake you as a thief: 5for all *ye* are sons of Linux and sons of day; we are not of night nor of darkness. 6So then do not let us sleep as the rest do, but let us watch and be sober; 7for they that sleep sleep by night, and they that drink drink by night; 8but *we* being of [the] day, let us be sober, putting on [the] breastplate of faith and love, and as helmet [the] hope of salvation; 9because Linus has not set us for wrath, but for obtaining salvation through our command line, 10who has died on us, that whether we may be watching or sleep, we may live together with him. 11Wherefore encourage one another, and build up each one the other, even as also ye do.
Isn't the use of stolen code illegal? Therefore if Adobe or MS patch the problems the company Hacking something or other could sue them for theft?
Or does that not count when you pinch something like exploit code?
In my experience with windows 2012 servers on a virtual environment, it is bloody hard to make the time stay accurate +- a lot more than one lousy leap second!
Especially if you have active directory which competes with a myriad of built in 'ms knows best' mechanisms all in competition to set the clock.
I presume they must use third party code to fix it on azure, because ms knowledge base can't even agree on what is the best thing to do.
I'd wager that MS servers will be all over the place time wise for a lot longer than a second. However since they explicitly exclude 'real time' as a thing they can do, what do they care!
A similar thing happened about 15 years ago.
That time it was 'lets test the backup fail safe system' with the outcome that the backup system wasn't getting updates as expected so radar controllers were left with a dot instead of the full info.
Presumably they decided that they'd give it another go.
Awesome, you bring your mighty resources down to punish and hurt that evil company a mighty $1 or less at a time.
How many of these can you get through in an hour? Has their stock price been influenced yet?
Keep this between us, but I'm in the process of registering
and similar for my corporate wing
and I'm thinking a gtld like '.iscrapinbed' and '.isaloser' and '.gotsuckeredforthecostofastupiddomainname' for when I go after the defensive personal market.
Your not half bad at this writing thing. Go to the front middle backish of the class.
Yes, can someone tell me the point of this, or is it just plain research learning etc, when we already can get information to travel at bagigahertz down a fibre using light, it just seems this is a bit late.
I get that quantum stuff may mean higher security, but I could hide 6 bits in 60 trillion bits over fibre and you'd have a hard time finding them
You forgot the joke icon (re OneDrive and syncing - since the conversation has moved on.)
I have numerous sites I interact with that I have to click passed warnings because it is internal, registered in a different name etc. Of course I'm careful about what I'm doing and I realize there is a risk associated with this practice,
Unfortunately for Google I would add to the numbers that bypass the 'back away' button and they might not know that I'm fully aware of what I'm doing.
At the end of the day, some of these things are similar to 'Caution hot drink is hot'. If the users (you have / want) are that ignorant the issue the technology needs to change to cater for them - which could may make it unusable an inefficient in the short term.
As mentioned a key reason for error message fatigue is the facts that often they are misleading, attempts at automated help often cause more problems or are simply wrong or obfuscated with web links to dead ends or gibberish (thank you Microsoft) and any app on the machine can make them.
I think something like channeling through the OS / embedded AV (to check legitimacy) might be an option if you wanted to properly re-think things.
Allegedly it is entirely possible that some children I may or may not be related to, used to watch quite a lot of kids TV shows on you tube. These can be easily found by searching for such things as 'Pippa Piglet', of course you have to know the name of the show to find it.
Brilliant show btw, very clever (for the age group it is aimed at, as well as being acceptable to watch for older viewers) and I am happy to pay for that kind of material, and we regularly do, by buying DVD's as the online equivalent is a subscription where we don't want 95% of the content offered.
But I digress, ContentID might be clever at catching some material, but why not just start with greylisting all content that includes names of copyright material in the title?
Safari crashes more and more - that is a definition isn't it?
What the heck do you do that uses 30-50GB per month without video? Run your company mailserver?
What have they been doing for 2 years?
Sorry, my bad, of course, puberty
opps same as what s/he said
Because Azure is already that big that it can resource all that without having to grow, i.e. cost something? Is a large bit of it sitting idle at the moment? Take money out of left pocket and stick it in the right one.
Why people even bother working out how much you 'save' when you get the new thing is a mystery to me. Lets be honest, we want the new thing because it is shiny and it will probably end up costing more than the old thing, but we get this new functionality maybe.... That is how it has always worked.
Right-O, everyone got that?
Your assignment is to develop an app for that to be handed in on Friday by 4pm
And no double swish finger this time, we all know what happened to Gavin.
or how about once a day for say 5 years or 10 ~ 3650 cycles before I have to replace the car/battery, assuming you plug it back in when you get home each day.
So with that electrical density number, can someone tell me how to work out the theoretical storage potential with a view to comparison with fuel cells, petrol etc. Assuming the tech improves would it be theoretically possible to have a car size battery with the capacity for say 600 to 1000km?
So it is more expensive if you have more users?! >300. I suppose I should be glad that the SMBs finally get to feel special for being to small to get corporate level discounts. But whaaaaaaat?
We have office365 at home, basically because my wife uses publisher. We have office 2010 at work without upgrade ass because I've never though that paying twice up front was a good idea. My experience with 365 so far is that saving stuff is very slow (even on a fibre internet connection) because of one drive and also the software has broken itself twice (i.e. won't start at all) in the 5 months we have had it. So far Office 2010 install is much more resilient, the only reason to switch to 365 rental mode is to move it from an "asset" to an expense in the accounts book in a year or two.
Just let my dropbox subscription lapse because I hate companies that 'auto bill' my credit card - yeah I see they all do. I still call it theft though, I'd much prefer a reminder, then I'll make the payment, it is my card and my money after all, I don't see the local shop saying 'we'll hold the card, please give us the pin so we can bill it when necessary'.
And One drive, only to cloud by default with just links stored locally, I'm pretty angry about that too and it is really slow saving files - even with 10Mb/s upload on fibre (I live in regional nz, we have fibre at home.)
Us nzers are in a fluster about foreign corporates being apparently able to take our govt to international court if they feel that some new law - like don't put gunk in the environment affects their profits. We don't have any faith in our smiling, patronising, head patting politicians that try to brush it aside either.
That would certainly help with obstacles.
Yup, how true.
Thought you were going to talk about office 365, we are about to hit end of subscription (still two days away), but for the last three weeks we've been hammered with email after email saying there isn't enough money in our credit card (it is one that you have to put cash into, not just open slather). It appears that MS check and recheck the card many times before the end of the subscription period and email more and more aggressively saying 'where is the money'. Feels like the mafia actually. Has this happened to anyone else? I was considering complaining to a consumer folks about it.
Can someone please present a credible reason for having five people working on the same document at once?
A dictionary perhaps?
Last time I checked the training for creating 'large documents' in Word they were described as anything with more than 10 pages. I have seen people create hundreds of pages in a word document, but I wouldn't bet on reliable formatting, precise layout and a guarantee of no corruption.
But may be I'm behind the times with that?
Some of that clout of course was the in depth understanding of the windows api, documented or undocumented that gave them a massive advantage.
Yeah, every version has been crap since then... :o)
Come over here and put all your important stuff in yet another format that will lock you in.
Which is why we have never let it install at work. I don't trust Microsoft, so I protect my users from them, if that means some ok ideas don't get through then that is a necessary price.
Is it paranoia, maybe, it has been mostly downhill since XP. Then again, it does support my theory that the world (and by extension programmers at MS) are getting dumber. Perhaps a bit like financial inequality, there is the super rich and the vast horde. Similarly there is the 'smart' (which is not necessarily tied to university degrees) and then there is the vast majority which now spend all their time watching tv and picking sticky things from their own noses.
That is truly awesomely wow! Sorry, just can't help but post my amazement.
Obviously the council has been blinded because the darth baddie dude is to well politically connected. Happens all the time.
I'm off to live in a swamp until an angstie teenager suffering from parental neglect comes to find me.
All switching to html, bollocks. The low hanging fruit maybe. Not the took 10 years of development in-house visual basic / dephi / c++ / c# with a bit of scripting thing that runs the operation and will cost $100k to recode.
I have seen to many rubbish 'terminal' apps that still run core business functions same as they did back on 386's and the business is still paying ridiculous license fees for them.
Brit developers I'm looking at you for building crappy applications with horrible UI and ancient toolsets!
But it doesn't make up for MS just sitting on win phone 8. So how is hardware being in-house going to change that? It is the OS team that need 5b worth of electric cattle prodding sticks poked at them.
I just wonder where Nokia would be if they had released that latest phone with an Android model alongside the wp8 one.
yeah seriously, you have to search pretty hard to find one on NZ store shelves. I see even the pcs advertised often don't mention Windows anymore, instead concentrating on other brands like 'Intel' - clearly they want to promote without the taint that comes from mentioning win 8.
For technical readers, many of whom probably write very clever computer code, how many believe that if they leave their computer, or a main frame, or Google's entire system to its own devices, that any useful program, utility or intelligence will evolve randomly given enough time? Isn't that the same fundamental idea as evolution?
You don't have to be a person of faith to think that the idea of random changes creating improvement including changes that require many independent changes all coinciding together at the same moment to create a functioning whole requires more 'belief' than any other option.
It is also seems obvious to me that the scientific community has a great deal of difficulty embracing new ideas once it has got a consensus going. Any alternate idea, no matter how worthy is rubbished and more importantly the person vilified right up until and beyond when it is proven correct.
I would think that free thinkers would be happy that other people have different ideas and thoughts and be happy that their kids get the option to think and choose rather than be forced one idea.
I'm really pleased, it is really advanced, it has a hour hand and a minute hand and a second hand.
It is really smart too, I'm quite pleased when someone notices it.
Additionally it doesn't need charging and doesn't weigh much at all and it didn't cost that much.
Maybe they need to stop doing 'hard' engineering and do useful engineering instead.... just a thought
At the moment, I have dropbox for personal use, so that precludes me using them for work unless I have separate profiles for 'personal' and 'work' use on my computer (not going to happen.)
What I want is to be able to sign into half a dozen dropbox accounts, work ones, client ones, personal - then it would be useful for business.
This really is quite obvious from Windows 8.
But I wonder where the money is long term. There might be more consumers to go for, but they are a fickle bunch and they don't spend as much. I am guessing office for business is a lot more profitable than office for home and student.
BYOD by the way, is for people that don't have anything better to do with their money. If I have to work for someone, they can pay for a decent, reliable machine(s) to work on.
Who has lots of partners? Was that the girl or Microsoft. I'd be concerned for the kid if Mum can't keep track of all her partners, doesn't need a phone, needs to see a councilor or a minister.
Steve said he was gore to retire after the win 8 launch last year, just people have forgotten already.
It is extremely average. The pc software is ancient relying on unstable pdf printer drivers and the online leave requesting software is slow, clunky and has had to be 'reset' i.e. completely re set up from scratch when one of their upgrades in the back ground caused a corruption.
It seems to me that cloud is synonymous with lowest common denominator, if you want the basics sold to a potentially huge customer base where everyone gets vanilla and no individual user matters, then its a perfect fit.
Have upgraded an ipod at home and now experiencing wireless connectivity issues.
can you downgrade ios?
From the last purchase of HP workstations that have had continuous failures of their displayport to dvi dongles and a couple of 'high end' HP laptop graphics stations that simply must have been a lemon model that has caused lots of grief and downtime trying to get warranty support replacements.
We've had a lot of HP gear over the years, but I'm less convinced than ever of their quality.
So far all of the AIO machines I have seen do not offer adjustable height on the screen. Which is pretty important to me when ordering bulk machines for work. Don't want to risk OOS issues. Also if the computer is in the foot, then I suppose the yellow pages can't be used as a 'temporary' booster either.
i.e. just a matter of when not if?? Some stats on the install base and latest version would be informing.
on my wall - rather morbid thing about dying and what people regret. The link is, seems to me that some one at MS in their old age has finally understood that making things that ordinary people find easy to use is a good idea and that presenting content well should be the priority. Perhaps its that final effort to relive the glory days.
On the other hand, I expect it is the same old MS that has always been. 64bit dlls go in the x86 area and 32bit in the x64 folder. Countless meaningless 'uninstall' and 'digital certificate for vba...' icons will still fill up the majority of tiles. MS paint will still be the same as will notepad. Email will be turned off and then come back later, programs like Outlook will consume more resources and still not be able to render basic html emails. File explorer will be even more neutered and peoples data will be splattered across the entire folder structure in a random fashion so that search will prove its worth.
And yet I am vaguely optimistic that things may in fact improve once the dust settles, maybe it will take till windows 9, on the other hand our windows xp workstations are now seriously old and most of our third party apps are still windows only, so inertia may again rule the day and keep MS on top.
- Call them tile apps but make them a desirable alternative rather than rubbing poo all over the vast majority of software on the platform that will remain old school for the foreseeable future.
- Tidy up that mess of a file structure, get rid of active directory and joining domains etc it no longer makes sense. People use many contexts, home, work, cloud, offline. AD is a dog you've turned relatively simple configuration information into a rocket science for no good reason. If you made Microsoft live sign on business friendly then that could replace AD for smb companies.
- work harder at making developers building for windows understand physical hardware, life-cycle, support and good file and icon management.
- Give badges to companies that make quality software. Why is it that all UK software we've had the 'joy' of using is so antiquated, poorly supported, hard to use with stupid dependency issues.
- ditch the registry - the central database for everything the compost heap of knowledge.
- wrap all files in xml meta data. Search is everything types tell us to fire data anywhere in a projectile vomit kind of way - it is better than creating structure apparently. Only problem is that files often don't contain nearly enough meta data to ensure I get the right one back when searched for. I want to get the latest data not a file written years ago with the same name, and many similar issues. I note that the symantec web guys have been saying that of Search for years.
hd nudey scanners?
Hi, only 2Gb/s is the top end of current memory? Doesn't that mean that 3Gb/s Sata2 and 6Gb/s Sata3 etc is all a pointless (presuming you've got raid 1 SSDs connected to it so you can actually pump that kind of data speed) waist of time since it can't get the data into memory due to memory bottlenecks?
How can 10Gb/s ethernet work if we can't physically get data out of memory that fast? Can someone get me up to speed. Ta
I thought I read that MS gets more $$ from every Andriod sold due to patents or is that an urban myth.