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what a first class.....
Between him and Mr Gove it makes me worry to the core about my children's educational future.
Nice article El reg - couldn't have surmised it better.
they always moan...
....its just the way BT is. To be honest BT are the problem with the market imho. They drag their feet. ADSL took agrees because they thought ISDN was the future. Then speeds were slow for much longer than they needed to be. Fibre is taking too long to get to market across the *majority* country.I'm one of the lucky ones but work with people who are still stuck on 5mb ADSL services.
BT need a kick in the arse. They fail to realise if they behaved better they wouldnt get so regulated. It's a bit like my bloody kids fighting over the TV. If my son shared a bit better my daughter would make a lot less fuss and I wouldnt need to get involved and lay the law down to my son. He doesn't get it either ;)
Re: You're not paranoid if they really ARE out to get you.
@John Tserkezis - So is your attitude not the same as ....
I've never bought a TV from a shop, I always get my TV's down the pub. Now it turns out that Currys pass your details on to the TV licensing people. It turns out I wasn't crazy.
So, where to start. Not paying for paid apps is theft. It hurts the developer and in turn hurts the Android eco system. Which means people will give up developing for android and we will be forced into having to use iphones. And most worrying you seem to be a smug git about it when you should feel nothing but embarrassment. Also, I can't believe you think those APK's from the torrent/piratebay/usenet aren't extra tainted with malware.
Re: Simpler option
I think the rule would need to be slightly more sophisticated. But in principle.....
How about where the company is UK based only (no parent companies) they can pay corp tax as they do now. (Probably need a turnover limit too)
Where they are international no more than x% of foreign costs (defined by business type) can be tax deductible. (For example coffee may be 20% but steel 60%). Any non physical goods 0% and the product has to physically pass into the country so server hosting is out!
Tax should be paid when the payment is issued from for the product or service. For example if marks and Spencer advertise uk products on you tube and pay Google 1m from their London office then that is taxable here from Google . If they pay from France then it's taxable in France. However, if m&s decide to do that then m&s UK then can't claim tax relief on the £1 they would have been cross charged from the France part of the business. Either way collect 200k of tax.
Probably a flaw and may be difficult to legislate but something along those lines must be do able
....Could learn a lot here. Essentially they gave it away for free to the fans and still make 4m from one track. (And I bet a huge number of people also bought it even though they could watch for free) And they are worried about piracy. It strikes me they have taken their eye of the ball to some extent and missed this easy revenue making opportunity. Granted they won't make this of every track but if they stopped pushing out so much garbage surely they could make a good income stream from it, enough not to worry themselves about piracy.
For the record I could live without ever hearing the track ever again but my kids love it so what do I know :-)
Yes I agree free should mean free. The thing with the broadband is you can't have the data without the line rental. So that does need to be made clear.
I think the easiest way to resolve this would be for it to "be 6 months free on a 18 month contract. Total contract cost £xxx or £yy per month. A saviing of £zz per month on a rolling month plan"
That would allow you to see how much you save in reality. Then call out any other charges (which should be inlcuded in the total cost) for things such as activation fees etc.
Its like cinema tickets. I got chanrged an 80p a ticket fee the other day. Well, I can't avoid that, so the the ticket prices is £7.50 + 80p (i.e. £8.30 not £7.50). Only where the booking fee is fixed should you be able to call it a booking fee.
Hidden costs are all about the marketing department trying to look cheaper than a competitor.
Re: £10 million over 3 years...
I don't normally answer my own posts but I couldn't resist.
assuming the following sources are true then the number of schools in England is
Primary : 16,971 ( http://tinyurl.com/reg-prim )
Secondary: 3,127 ( http://tinyurl.com/reg-sec )
Giving you 20,098 schools. Now take your £10m and divide it and you get £497.56 per school over the 3 years or £165.85 per year per school.
Well done, all those schools are going to be able to really enhance their educational experiences with that!
I know that is probably a slightly simplistic approach but its probably not far off the truth.
(Penguin Icon: we need to get open source into education if only to prove there is more than one way to solve a problem)
£10 million over 3 years...
....is surely a piss in the ocean. Thats just £3.3 a year. I don't know how many schools there are but it sounds like peanuts per school. Sounds to me like they'd save just as much if they used cheaper Biros.
Gove is a complete twat.
Re: I wonder how many installations are simply as the machine came?
Sadly on the asus laptop i bought which comes with win8 pre-installed this isn't the case. Trust me, I've been doing this shit a lot longer than most. And no you can't, the option only appears #after# you disable the secure boot in the bios. (It is available on my Asus desktop motherboard though)
My point is after spending so much time on the other side of the fence (5 years since I had a windows PC) I was genuinely interested to see windows 8. And in *my* opinion its a mess. It may not be yours but it is mine!
Re: I wonder how many installations are simply as the machine came?
But if you turn off the secure boot (and you have to boot into windows to get to the bios - don't even get me started on that) windows then won't boot because it was installed with secure bios enabled. So I'm going to reinstall. (Or maybe there is something else but I lost the will to live finding my way around that mess of a os.) As a Linux /Mac / android user windows is just seeming a bit clunky these days. (Fisher price toys)
Re: I wouldn't mind....
I totally agree.
Its a bit like claiming rights to "petrol station". BP have every right to get narked if I call my petrol station a "BP Petrol Station" but if its an "ESSO Petrol Station" or just a plain vanilla "Petrol Station" then so what. We both sell petrol, but I can't sell BP petrol. i.e. BP is the brand. It's that simple.
I wouldn't mind....
...but apple have made it so that there can't be any other apple app store other than theirs on apple devices. So deception isn't therefore possible. So I fail to see apples case.
i have to use outlook.com
....for my work email. L Since I installed it on my android tablet my battery life has gone down by at least a third and my data usage up my hundreds of megs per month. I hardly even get that much email via that route.
So why anybody would want to move from gmail to outlook is anybody's guess.
Still, each to their own....
Not entirely unexpected...
What a shocker that after facebook buys instagram they f**k it up for any other social network.
If you didn't see that one coming you need your eyes testing.
Re: Hackers would go after Windows phones...
@JDX - really! Linux not being very popular then on consumer devices?
I know you are probably trolling but underneath every android handset is linux. And every iphone and ipad essentially runs a version of *nix, not to mention the Mac. Or quite a lot of netbooks.
Oh, and the raspberry pi, yes there is that. I think they sold a few of those too.
Oh, and most consumer NAS drives. Oh, and quite a lot of routers.
But no, nobody would pay for any of those would they?
I'm assuming you are doing those posts to keep your gold badge. Don't worry about posting informed critique or comment, just put loads of comments in any article so you can keep your gold badge. Bless.
Apple can decide what your car can now do too. "I'm sorry Dave I cannot let you do that"
*On the Android Side*
The cloud integration of Android (assuming you are on a ICS/Jelly Bean build of course) is first class. Way better than anything that Apple have. That is a fact and while Apple are getting better, Google have got it mastered. Contacts, email, chat not to mention bookmarks. I can (and have) started composing an email on my PC and finished it in the car (misses driving obviously!) on my phone. Likewise, starting surfing on the Phone (chrome) and finished reading at home, no need to bookmark, you can see all the other devices. And multi-user is fantastic. I no longer have to see the kids build an ice cream/cake/ice lolly icons for those tedious games (they are on ios too!) cluttering up my desktop. Likewise, I hate facebook but the misses loves it. Well, I don't need to see her crap anymore either!
Did you know you can upload 20,000 of your own music tracks to google if you've already got them (for FREE!). They then are available to either stream or download to the device from within the music app? Suddenly an SD card slot doesn't seem quite to important does it! (I put 2,000 up the other day, works a treat)
Did you know you can install a DLNA server on your phone to watch content on a DNLA TV. (This is quite common on modern TV's). Don't need an apple TV box! I'm assuming apple don't allow such applications.
And finally, google maps rocks. And on android you can cache it for off line use.
*On The Apple Side*
The apple hardware does always 'feel nice'. I don't quite know what magic they use, but you cant deny an apple piece of hardware does feel good in the hand. IOS is also undeniably simple. My misses never got on with android on her phone, and while she sometimes pokes like a chimp at the phone, I generally have to give her a lot less support that when she had an android phone. Cost of the hardware made me cry, it is very expensive for what it is but thats how those apple people like it.
IOS do seem to get the APP's first too, but this is becoming less so.
I think the article is somewhat unfair to suggest that its not PC replacement, neither is an ipad fully. I've got office apps, I can cache most stuff for off line. And the apps are better in some instances on android than ios, and sometimes the other way around (lets just say iplayer!). While I don't deny I'm probably bias towards android I don't dismiss IOS at all. Its good at what it does.
The weird thing is my kids use both and they have no preference. So maybe that's the truth (kids are awfully truthful). The fact that they don't distinguish which device they pick up means they are both equally useful and good and actually its the prejudices we get as adults that make us believe one is better than the other!
Re: Thing is....
No but they could give us all an extra 32gb of cloud storage to make up. Seems a cheap and easy way to appease the early adopters. Better than nowt.
That said, I'm well chuffed with my nexus 7 and 16gb. Well worth the 199 I paid.
If i were the likes of google
I would say I'm going to make you a one time offer of $1. We settle, sign an NDA for the settlement and you can say we paid a licence fee. If you reject this offer we go to court and we will disclose everything about the case as we go. If you loose you we will counter sue for all costs. How would you like the dollar, cash or cheque?
This leaves them with a tricky situation. If they say no its going to get expensive. If they say yes they can hope the next fool pays up. The next victim should then use the same tactic.
Probably a flaw in the plan but looks like a starter for 10.
This is plain stupid
do you remember when the palm pilot came out. Brilliant. They kind of set the standard of PDA's, for quite a while as I remember. There were other things, newton etc, but they all competed on the various merits yet all looked sort of the same. If anybody had tried to patent the "form factor" of these things there would have been no choice and competition and modern day smartphones would never have happened. The competition was good and drove better versions.
Apple need to get a grip and samsung need to stop rising to the bait.
I think the android security model on the whole is pretty good. (not perfect though, i feel like sometimes I'd like a 'prompt me for this' option to be available).
Anyway, this problem is as old as the hills. Free apps that are more than you first expect. I bet loads of people install windows and mac applications without a second thought. Mobiles are at least better in this respect and android does at least give you the chance to see what you are about to let loose on your phone/tablet. Its up to the user to decide.
Would you let a stranger in your house without knowing a bit about them first? If you do, you are stupid. How many cold callers come to your door selling you x,y,z but really all they want to do is a take a peek to see if you are worth robbing. Free loft insulation anybody? I had one the other day that insisted they needed to see inside my loft to see if I would qualify but refused to explain why. They seemed a bit fishy (my gut feel) and I sent them away. But how many people would let them in. 2 days later and your 42" plasma will be missing!
I have often wondered about the stuff my son installs on his ipod. I have to trust the fact that apple have vetted the app. And if you believe that the problem doesn't exist there you are just as much of a fool. Anybody remember the tethering app that got past the ipolice. And I'm pretty sure you could get something equally nasty when you get no idea what permissions are required.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not having a go at apple, microsoft or google/android. I'm just saying there is no perfect solution. If people want the freedom to run whatever apps they want they have a responsibility to make sure the software does only what is says. And with free apps there is no such thing as a free lunch.
Ok, I take your point that cut and paste and multitasking are functions of the UI not the UI itself.
Lets remove the fact they both have icons as this is as old as the hills, right back to he GEM desktop (remember that! - showing my age :)
We then get down to the fact that the two are actually very different. IOS has a screen by screen set of icons. In its initial incarnation (before they let you have folders) you could swipe left and right for apps and iirc you could re-order the icons.
Android, on the other hand, you used to click to open the 'app drawer' or and select your app from a scroll vertical list. You could also drop the icon on to the desktop. Android has from 1.6 also had widgets too. No icon re-ordering though. Always alphabetical
Either way, from a simple UI they are both very different.
Only my opinion, but they are imho different enough. To say one stole from the other in this respect is a lie. Similar in places, but overall very different. If he still wants to continue down the android copied apple line, lets look at Windows Phone Tiles and Android Widgets - :)
Apple had invented the model smartphone UI and Android had copied it
What total fud. Don't let the facts get in the way. Just in case he forgot multitasking and cut and paste. First on android. Then decent notifications. First on android. And so on....
Saying it isn't true doesn't make it fact or true. And it isn't going to make apple not try and sue your ass if you look like taking any serious chunk out of their market share. Still, unlikely to happen with wp8.
Re: Called it
The bit I didn't get was apple are saying "Judge says samsung is not cool, we are, they didn't copy us"
but then in the next breath seem to say
"Everybody else ruled in our favor so they "the uk" is wrong and they must have copied us" - so are apple saying samsung are also cool?? - if its a copy it must also be cool surely?
So I say, they fail at logic.
I'm also pretty sure the Judge is going to get a bit annoyed too. From his point of view he can't let that statement go because if he did (just like me as a parent to my kids) the next time you give a judgement the defendant will 'bend the rules' when it comes to the punishment. I'd imagine his next step is to say "Right, you will publish the following statement on your homepage, and nothing else" - be told! It strikes me Apple have grown far too big for their boots and need a damn good slap down. Accept they bought the case, they lost (regardless of whether you and I agree with that, court rules thats it. Appeal, or accept it.) and they accept the consequences of that loss. If they'd have left alone none of this would have happened.
The nexus 7 is also cheaper uses a standard USB charger and (and this seems to have been missed) Comes with built in GPS [you only get gps on the cellular version of the ipad mini] (not to mention you can cache google maps for offline and they work :) (sorry, couldn't resist)
As for apps, I've yet to find anything that doesn't do what I want (its not like the old days). I don't like facebook, but the app is just as slow on the nexus as on your IOS device. The twitter apps is equally crap, but fortunately there are plenty of other apps to tweet away. Dropbox, Amazon cloud player, firefox, chrome, kindle they are all there. There are loads of games and office apps. Yes, the store can still be a bit of a pain to find the apps, but overall In fact, I probably have more choice rather than less to choose from. I'm certainly not restricted to a single web browser or source for music because the ipolice say that's how it is.
I know the nexus 7 isn't for everybody, but somehow I don't think asus and google are going to be loosing sleep tonight.
Re: Apple copying?!
To be fair to apple they haven't copied the Google maps application in their latest os, either visually or functionally. To be honest you could say they are redefining mapping that's been stuck in a rut of accuracy.... :-)
Re: Fuck you google!
@hmb totally agree.
A patent should only protect the way of doing something not an end result. For example, holding paper together both the paperclip and the staple achieve the same result using the same material. The method of doing so are totally different but the result the same.
So in the example above Apple are trying to uphold the rights to holding paper together. And that is what is wrong in this case IMHO.
Re: Alternative theory
Let's get this right, are you suggesting a 160 8gb iPod is better than the 8gb nexus 7.
the ipod stupidly over priced these days and nowhere near a tablet experience.
I personally believe the the iOS platform has gone past maturing and started to stagnate. Looks the same and other than a few bells and whistles that get added from time to time is.a pretty boring experience. At least android is still moving along at pace and evolving and constantly getting even better. Nexus 7 for me but I hope apple do release one, it keeps things interesting. As I've said before, competition is essential to keeps things moving along. (For both sides)
Sir, you talk shit
I've got a Samsung galaxy nexus and my Mrs an I phone 4s. Mine pisses all over it (and here is the important bit) IN MY OPINION.
Talking to your phone to ask "what time is it" just makes you look a twat whether iOS or android. Its a pointless feature. I'm not saying siri isn't slickly done, it is (well, when its the right kind of question anyway). Camera on the 4s isn't amazing either. No phone cameras really are. My nexus has less lag though.
But like Ive said before, horses for courses. She loves hers, I love mine and neither of us sees what the other sees in theirs. Its called individuality and choice. Long may it live.
I don't remember (and I'm sure I'll be corrected if I'm wrong) google actually *starting* any patent fight, they usually retaliate *after* somebody poked them.
Not saying they are angels btw, just an observation from the sidelines.
MS/Nokia are on the offensive rather than defensive, imho.
I think one of the main problems that has made all this open data a.bit worthless is a lack of access to granular information. It's all either too summarised or just lack detail or its just crap. Also, some data is.provided in wildly different formats and detail level from different authorities. It needs somebody with some decent vision to make useful datasets available and in a timely and ideally almost real time level.
We can but hope that this isn't more wasted money achieving nothing........
Missing the point
A book is a valid learning tool, but they need to be able use other forms as well.
This obsession with technology is good but *very* misguided. The gov/education service will consider ipads as IT learning. Which it isn't. Yes web is now an important tool but doing it on a fondleslab misses some key things. You can't learn to touch type of a tablet! They are also hideously expensive and subject to getting broken by careless kids (as all kids are btw!). Now apple will no doubt flog them to schools at a knock down price (catch em while they are young) but think about this
HDMI monitor ~£80, Raspberry Pi ~ £25, keyboard and mouse ~ £15, HDMI cable ~ £2, Power Supply and SD card £10
So for £140 quid you can have some kit that will teach them a lot more and stil 'surf the web' etc. And best of all, at £25 I'd be willing to let the little buggers take them home at the weekend!
We are really missing some important things, kids today are (on the whole) shit at computing. They are very good consumers (I watch my 6yr old daughter on my Xoom, Mac, phone etc) and she can navigate her way around like a true pro. But they are amazed at the fact that I can type without looking and 'program' the thing. They even think its quite "cool" that I wrote some software for my phone. What chance have they got of doing that kind of thing if I don't teach them.
My wife is a teacher and has zero interest in computers. Likes her phone for facebook and her PC for a bit of surfing but beyond that doesn't see the point. One of her friends works in a school where they [teachers] have all been issued an ipad. It strikes her [the teacher with said ipad] that its only because the head wanted one and didn't want to buy her own. But they have limited work value.
Problem is MP's think they are the answer, schools think they are the answer but people who work in tech know they are a tool, but not the answer to getting kids doing real computing. This is a huge vanity roll out which will have little to no benefit but a large cost.
Imho this shows how intel are floundering around having realized that arm are going to eat their business from the bottom up.
The raspberry pi must have alarm bells ringing. This could be the thing that finally gets linux adopted firstly by youngsters. They learn linux, they don't need intel boxes to run it. Another 10 years from now they start to be the influence in business with what they buy and use.
I cant help but feel that ms don't like the pi for the same reasons, and unlike the netbooks you can't shoe horn windows onto the pi. Therefore the only alternative is get a supplier to make something to counter the pi. A little pressure never hurts, especially if they (intel) believe ms may drop them as a supported platrom down the line anyway. Its a great time to rebuild a bridge if such an opportunity arises like this.
Then again, I may just be reading too much into it....
With piracy then eliminated prices of titles will drop.(not)
Odd attitude though. The flip side is that I won't pick up an old title for a tenner and become a fan of.something I thought would be not overly interesting to become hooked and buy all titles that follow.
Short sighted and looks very greedy. What next, fridge manufactures insisting that food can only be put in by them.40 quid for a pint of milk anyone?.
whatever happened to.....
....new innovations. companies doing well because people wanted their stuff because it was good. other people copied then more new innovation came out to stay one step ahead. these days its justed turned into my patent blah blah.
it just sucks now. it really needs to come to an end.
btw, not using capital letters in postings is my invention/ip/.... keep away..... ;)
i work on this basis.....
.....you want to pay 5% less then I will work 5% less. If you don't like that don't come to me asking for a 5% reduction for free. If you've ever asked your boss for a 5% pay rise they will respond with what do I get for my extra 5% or simply tell me to fuck off. Either way they don't back down so why should you the other way around.
Mines the one with a copy of "I used to be a contractor but the recession just gave employers an opportunity to take the piss so I went perm" in the pocket.
Something in what you say....
If you just want a device that works, never looks any different and is *very* easy to use (and this is where the ipad and iphone win with the masses imho) then buy an ipad. Its not cutting edge anymore (though did change the landscape), its not very customisable but it is very nice to look at and use provided you want to use it within the parameters allowed by apple. My one gripe is they are a ball ache because they are tethered to itunes so much which is (and even most fanbois won't argue here) a crock of shit. The ios device is a device your mom could use pretty much out of the box.
If you want a more customisable and flexible device then an android tablet is probably going to be more up your street. There isn't much available for ipad that isn't for android. [At this point please dont consider any android 2.x tablet as included in this - they were at best ....well...shit - kindle fire the possible exception] Personally, I personally prefer the interface and like the fact I can do with it what I like. I like the fact I can plug a HDMI cable into it and use netflix on my TV, I like the way I can stick a micro sd card in for some more ram rather than trying to bankrupt myself on a 64gb ipad knowing I can't expand it later. I like the way my 32gb xoom cost me £250. £70 quid cheaper than the cheapest ipad. I love the fact I've never, not once, had to connect it to my Mac via a USB cable to put stuff on it through itunes. I'm also not locked into anybody's infrastructure. Not even 'google'. (though tbf I do use gmail etc, but I don't *need* to)
But its each to their own. I personally hope the fight goes on forever, because if either side ever win and wipes out the other, everybody will suffer from the lack of competition!
....That richer people more likely to buy expensve luxury technology items.
Next they will discover that audi's and bmw's are bough by the same crowd, as opposed to those who drive a ford focus.
In shock news young people are more likely to go to university than those who earn more than 50k a year.
Also, gloves keep your hands warmer on cold days than if you dont wear gloves.
Chirst, I need a job at one of the state the bleeding obvious companies, sounds like a doddle to me.
The (traditional) publisher actually does some fucking work! For a start, he will get it laid out so it looks nice, proof read, offer advice, provide illustrations, support and marketing of your book, in return for (sometimes) upfront cash, other times royalties or a combination of the two. They may even buy a series of your books. Most importantly they will market them and try and get them in prominent promotions either on-line, in store etc etc. However, they take a risk with their money. (hence why they are so selective, though that one that missed harry potter - doh!)
Apple, by contrast, give you a word processor, you do all the hard work, formatting etc. You will need to promote yourself, and do all the other stuff. If you are lucky enough, they will give you a prominent position in the bookstore, but then they most likely will not. Either way, they get 30% for *you* doing *all* the hard work. And then, you may do all the hard work and they may just decide to tell you you can't sell it, they don't like it. (Odds of a book "How android is better than ios" ever getting published are not high :P, but i suspect "Taking old people on a one way trip to dignitas" equally won't be allowed )
That is why it just looks a bit unfair. They get 30% profit for 0% risk, unlike a traditional publisher. You take 100% risk for a potential 70% share. I know which party I'd rather be!
Finally somebody who subscribes to the argument that piracy can lead to actual sales and not every pirate item had is a lost sale.
Music/film companies must hate him right now.
Quite a refreshing attitude.......
to be honest....
.....since the Orange T-Mobile merger data transfer and reliability and signal strength have all got worse for me. Unlimited is irrelevant.
I'm looking for a new network right now...
Well I for one....
...hope that http://www.raspberrypi.org/ give these IT companies a bit of a bashing and get kids doing what I learnt to do when I was 8 or 9 years old, just messing about and learning and programming. Nobody ever taught me to program, I had to work it out (much to my fathers bemusement) from the manual and magazines. Now, clearly that isn't the best way to learn quickly, but its given me a mindset that I still have some 30 years on. 'just go do and work it out'
Now, the next problem is that most teachers just don't give a shit about computers from a programming and how they work point of view. My wife (a teacher) doesn't understand why anybody needs to know binary, what good is that to anybody. While, yes, we don't use it every day to 'code', an understanding is required to some extent. Knowing how it works, makes programming make sense. (iykwim)
So, how do we get this stuff taught in schools. Well, that is a good question, we need people from industry like myself who have the experience and the passion but I don't have the time to become a teacher, and they certainly aren't going to pay my considerably higher than teacher wages. Yet I do still have the passion I first had when I first got my hands on a ZX81, then VIC 20 and PSION brick that my dad used to borrow from work. And this raspberrypi has got me very very (slightly over) excited all again. I can't wait to show my 9 year old son it and get him into it.
I hate to say I just think this is just a politician spouting hot hair. We've fucked up teaching IT certainly well before I left school in the late 80's. By the time I left, I was a more advanced programmer than the teacher (and he was reasonably good as i remember). My thirst (and to be fair, my abundance of free time compared to his) probably allowed me to be so, but this is a resource we should have been tapping into a good 20 years ago when we are best suited to learning. Is it too late? time will tell.
My rant over, I'm off for a lie down.
Well, that will work then....
I'm not being funny, but who the hell though that would work. Ok, so I say, yes, I promise not to be naughty, I won't use facebook, twitter. The court orders my ISP to 'monitor' my broadband.
I can still anonymously use any of the following without fear of being [easily] caught
- Pay as you go mobile bought cash
- 3g mifi hotspot (paygo £120 from 3, pay cash, 12 months internet)
- McDonalds (other public hotspots available)
- My neighbours wifi, especially easy if I happen to 'help them' with their computer problems. http://192.168.0.1 admin/password/letmein etc
Well done courts, that'll show them not to abuse the internet.
Repeat after me F A I L.
If you've got 100,000 customers then paying 10k to google for a licence seems fair to me. If you app relies on it then 10c per customer on your $2 app doesn't seem harsh. Lets be honest, you, (as a developer) couldn't put that kind of service together for that kind of money.
Water can to be free if I want to use rainwater. However, the tap is just more convenient. It saves me having to build and run my own water processing plant! Therefore I'm happy to pay for the convenience and economy of outsourcing the hard work.
You total muppet. At what point did google actually say that maps was free or open source?
I'm not saying google are angels, because that wouldn't be true, but in the scheme of tech companies they are far from the worst.
They are giving plenty away for free, and those who need more are clearly making a profit somewhere along the line be it ad clicks or whatever. So why shouldn't google take a bit of that? I'm not saying that its overly cheap or whatever, but its fairly transparent pricing and they are being pretty up front about it. And lets be honest, that can't be a cheap service to run.
At the end of the day, they aren't trying to lock you in to them, you are free to choose. Once thing google don't seem to really do is lock you in.
Get over yourself, and remember that they are a business, just like microsoft, oracle etc etc.
I bet you wouldn't give somebody something for free if you thought they were going to make money from it. So stop getting your knickers in a twist about it.
what i likrd was......
.....that Android had copied ios.
Let me just say, that's right like Er....
Icons and a touch screen , yes the g1 had icons and a touchscreen.
But then let's see who had these first.....
Cut and paste
Flash player ;)
Oh hang on, they are different because ios doesn't have all those, or even get them first.
What a twonk that man was....