679 posts • joined 29 Oct 2009
"While we'd imagined we'd give tissue samples here – with the results being used to profile us for meds and robotic transplants Google can sell you in the coming years"
Nah, they want to brainwash us to accept Google glass first
Re: Flip-Phones Beware! The Fail-Phone cometh!
"Maybe Microsoft can use their $70+ Billion in cash to pay Android developers to port all their apps to this landfill fodder!"
Maybe. Maybe not.
Another dev in a group I'm a member of recently launched a game on Windows Phone and Android - much to his surprise, he found that the revenue returned was much greater for the Windows Phone that the Android one.
Now, this is small-time indie stuff, so in neither case are download numbers huge. But I guess it's easier to get noticed when you're in a smaller marketplace - especially when said marketplace has better guards in place to stave off fart and malware apps, decreasing the chances of your app getting lost under a flood of crap.
Having customers who are actually willing to pay for stuff and not just pirate it probably doesn't hurt, either...
Re: No mention of Nokia X?
Microsoft, in their "infinite wisdom" are killing off the X. Pity, because it's not a bad bit of kit for the price, and the idea of a version of Android free from Google's poison readily available to the average consumer was a pretty good.
Re: Do google test?
Well, judging from the four apps I've attempted to launch on various Android stores...
Amazon Android - two from four apps submitted. Three day wait, then one appears on the store, the other I get an email for stating that there are problems to fix before it can go out.
Nokia X Android - all four apps submitted. Four day wait, one goes onto the store, other three get a QA failed email, plus a list of what I need to fix.
Google Play - paid $25, uploaded all four apps, all on Play within hours, no feedback.
... I have since found that the bugs spotted by Nokia and Amazon also exist on the versions on the Play store. Do Google test? Not in my experience.
the Android Wear install process runs into a road block with paid apps because it doesn't know how to extract the file of the encrypted apk almost no Android users are actually willing to pay for apps."
"these certs can be used by servers to masquerade as legit Google websites and eavesdrop on or tamper with users' encrypted communications."
No real difference to legit Google websites, then...
""Your privacy and security are important to us," the ad giant claims in its Ts&Cs."
Re: Its Android, so what would it cost without the m$ extortion fee?
"I guess Kabonn just aren't that brave!"
Certainly not brave enough to do the right thing for their buyer's privacy and work off the back of their own pull of the AOSP... given the ratio of credit cards to population, I wonder how much relying on Google's operating billing API will cost them once they finish building the walls round their garden.
Re: Just say NO to banking apps on Andoid
Just say NO to
banking apps on And[r]oid
No, this is NOT intended as a troll-ish "FTFY" thing. Say everyone starts saying no to banking apps - what happens? The bad guys move on to some other type of app where they can continue to profit - do we then boycott this newly target type of app? And what then? Boycotting will not solve the issue, merely shift it to another place.
The root cause is lack of education of owners. Think about it - when someone buys a new PC these days, they are automatically prompted to get some kind of antivirus. If the same philosophy were applied to Android phones - say a walkthrough on start-up briefing the new buyer on permissions and security, I'd be willing to bet we'd see a significant drop in infection rates.
Odds on this applying to pre-loaded bloatware? My money's on zero...
So let me get this straight...
Google have embraced the Android Open Source Project...
... then they extended Android, by means of providing a whole load of APIs and a store that rapidly became #1, thanks to the discoverability offered by their majority share of internet search...
... and now they're trying to extinguish deviation from their brand of Android...
Sounds hauntingly familiar...
"The PPF told us LTRS operated on a "separate in-house infrastructure, so it was not necessary for it to be included within the MSP contract".
Now the CGI contract is in place and systems are up and running, users are complaining it's actually worse than the set up run by BT"
Looks like a severe case of LISA*s to me...
* Let's Invent Stupid Acronyms
Re: @Taylor 1
"... a patch Tuesday for androids."
It would be worse than that - with Microsoft, we know that patch Tuesday is patch Tuesday. With Android, it will be more like "patch whenever the service provider can be bothered to push the update out".
Bet your life...
... that if this were some kind of Android malware strain and Google had been handed control of the servers, these comments would have a very different tone...
"Do people even realise how many times you are captured on video every single day if you live in a city?"
I don't recall CCTV images ever being sent to a central datacenter and pulled apart, analysed and profiled for the purpose of pitching adverts at people.
"Google Glass is like an a[l]ways-on spy for Google"
... and even if it isn't always on and calling home (which is as likely or unlikely as your personal tinfoil-hattedness), it runs Android. So it'll only be a matter of time before someone gets some bit of malware out there to turn it into their own always-on spy device - as we all know, the average user is not exactly brilliant at reading through that list of required permissions before installing.
People are right to be worried about this - regardless of what they may think of Google as a corporate entity.
Ok, things can - and do - go wrong.
But two hours on hold with no update about what's going on? Only thing I can ever recall being that bad was when I used to play World of Warcrack, and the servers were down...
Re: Little by little...
"What, like smart TV's and XBOX One's ?"
I was thinking more of Chromecast, but yeah, those too...
Little by little...
First thermostats and lights and the "internet of things", all sending anonymous data back to Google if you opt in... and people accept it.
Next obvious step - remove the opt in... and people will accept it, because it's only a small change.
A series of these small steps later, and we all have telescreens in our homes, watching us and reporting our every move back to Google and the NSA watching over their shoulder, with no anonymity and no opt-out... and even though people may start not wanting it, it'll be too late.
... and we'll always have been at war with Eastasia...
Re: My biggest reservation
"Next character to die on Game of Thrones is..."
"Jesus, how much of an old fart do I feel when someone describing themselves as an "old fart" thinks 300MB was a large hard drive."
I remember when a 40 (yup, four-zero) meg HDD was considered huge... and a luxury.
Camoron wants roaming in the UK? He should buy a phone on O2 and go stand on the cliffs at Dover - should only be a matter of minutes before that "Welcome to France!" text comes in...
Their private data, not ours.
Oh wait - our private data is their private data!
... I'll get me coat.
Thought that tweet stating that there would be a 20% reduction in bills was a bit suspect...
Re: With Microsoft the best things come in threes....
... like Surfaces?
Re: Just what the world needs...
There's plenty of links out there - just search for Google NSA. How genuine any/all of them are - well, that's up for debate. But given the number of links and variety of sources, I for one am reasonably satisfied there's cause for concern.
... of course, there are those out there in whose eyes Google can do no wrong (for whatever reason).
But yes, Mr. O.P. - let's see exactly where you're getting your information from and whether the source is credible enough to be considered "proof".
Re: How do you find someone totally independant? Impossible task.
Oh, I'm sorry, did I hit a nerve? I note that you made no comment about "disagreeing with crap" or "brainwashing" about suggestions of possible Microsoft backhanders, or indeed any criticism aimed at any large organisation apart from Google.
So (assuming that you're the same guy) I would say thank you - for proving my point.
Re: How do you find someone totally independant? Impossible task.
Q2. What search engine do you use?
Google [ ]
Something Inferior [ ]
Never going to work....
Whoever does this would have to be immune to bribes, have nothing to lose from the threat of reduced search rankings, and not have any kind of grudge or favour towards Google...
... find my one man who claims this, and I'll call him a liar.
Now we know what the next generation of Android ransomware will be threatening us with!
200,000 apps on Amazon, 1,300,000 on Play.
A while back, I submitted the Android port of my games to both Amazon and Play. The former took a few days to go through QA, the latter just "went public".
Popularity? Or quality over quantity? How much is due to the Amazon market being seen as having fewer opportunities, and how many of those extra million plus on Play are half-hacked fart apps and flappy clones that don't work properly?
Re: ... and yet...
I even thought that calling other commentards shills was against register policy, but apparently all is allowed if it is to take a swipe at
But it's true - Google do not have shills. Shills get paid. Google just have people they've brainwashed.
... and yet...
... you still have people on here - people who I can only assume are reasonably tech savvy - running round praising Google to the hilt and taking a swipe at Microsoft at every possible opportunity, just due to a massive two-decade-old chip on their shoulder...
If the tech community of all people can't put the past behind them and see what the future holds, what hope does the great unwashed have?
Probably a heavy DDOS attack organised by the dogs of the world who are fed up with cats getting all the limelight...
... I'll get me coat.
But... but... but... it's *open*!
Re: As a niche device owner....
"This especially applies to apps that I have actually paid for in the first place."
I would argue that there's grounds for an additional cost - in certain cases. If the item in question is an expansion pack, I think it's reasonable to attach a price-tag, as this provides further gameplay which will have required additional time and effort on the part of the developers to build. If a player likes the game and wants to play further than the basic version offers, it's their choice to download the pack.
Similarly, there's justification that purely cosmetic items which do not have any impact on the gameplay can have a price tag - if you really want to pay 50p for a fez, that's your call.
In both these cases, the actual purchase mechanic must absolutely be handled responsibly - there should be no way that mummy's credit card is suddenly maxed out because little Jimmy has bought a bundle of costumes for the character on this favourite iPad game.
What is absolutely wrong is the "pay-to-win" model - paying to get something that changes the way the game progresses, be it negating a delay required before a next move can be made, or buying a special item to make things easier.
Of course, in an ideal world, there would only ever be one "in-app purchase" - the payment required to switch from a free trial to a full paid version of a game.
Re: It is not a cancer
"Hard to take when your astroturfing gets caught out, isn't it?"
Same question back at you about spreading FUD, now Google is trying to wriggle out of obeying the law.
Seriously, the whole browser war thing was 20 years ago. Let it go man, you're just going to give yourself a heart attack.
Re: It is not a cancer
"I note lack of citation."
You get used to it after a while - like when Eadon used to rubbish WinPhone in a strangely similar way to you, Mr. A. Coward, and I asked him to provide statistics and links... he never did.
Re: How weird.
Well, given the aggressiveness of the attack, I'd say that one of them is either the ghost of Eadon come back to haunt us, or another well-known Microsoft hater, shedding his account in order to attack without it coming back to haunt him...
Re: It is not a cancer
"You also seem to think you're some sort of indie game dev super star"
Superstar? No - just an old-fashioned developer who makes retro-style games for fun and dreams of "the good old days". Sure, I'll kick off against piracy and the spoiled anonymous whiners who seem to think that they're entitled to everything for nothing - but I have no false illusions about my little tribute to the 80s video arcade, hence why they're free to play.
So I'm sorry if I spoiled your party by simply pointing out that I can build for Windows Phone 8 - or maybe it's the fact that I can then deploy to iPhone and Android within hours from the same codebase that hurts your feelings - or the fact that I can do this using something Microsoft have created. I'm just happy to be able make games in the style I used to enjoy in my youth.
Re: Next step?
""That's actually why I refuse to use Windows and advise all people to stay away from it."
That's great - for the desktop. But this is about mobile... by your argument, would you refuse to use Android and advise all people to stay away from it?
No sympathy from me...
I didn't ask to be tracked and profiled, or have adverts sold to me. I didn't ask for people who know a few things about me to be able to search the web and come up with details on who I am and what I do (case in point - the A.C. troll in this thread who felt he had to take a pop at me because I use C# cross-platform). I didn't want details of things I have looked at and/or bought online made available to parties outside those website I had visited or purchased from.
And I certainly don't want my every action and communication scrutinised by a private enterprise whose only motivation is profit and tries to dodge their responsibilities, while hiding behind a mask of altruism.
Just as happened with Microsoft before them, Google have fallen prey to their own arrogance and hubris, save that Google's capacity for anti-competitive practice is far greater than Microsoft's ever was. They know this - hence their squirming to try and wriggle out of this ruling. Their big fear is that the scales will eventually fall from the eyes of even the most ardent of their fans, and everyone will realise that "Do no evil" is the greatest lie of our time.
Re: BYOD Disliked by Employees in the Know
@Bullseyed - couldn't agree more. Same with my laptop - one of the questions on the employee information sheet was "Do you have the equipment at home suitable to allow you to work from home, should the need arise?" - No I do not! My laptop is my laptop!
Step 1: Create Google Fit
Step 2: Sell gathered data to health insurance companies
Step 3: Wait for premiums to rise
Step 4: Create Google Heath Insurance
Step 5: Profit (and gather still further data)
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