* Posts by Dingo Mike

3 posts • joined 29 Oct 2009

Virginia corrections officers on 'dog fondling' rap

Dingo Mike

@jake

Ah, I see where you are coming from. I was speaking purely from the perspective of handling the genitals in some way during AI, not using masturbation as the sole method of collecting semen. Certainly, the old fashioned method of Crumping a stallion for semen collection isn't as effective as using a teaser mare and an AV, but it's still used in some practices. Dogs seem to produce a better ejaculate when appropriately massaged behind the glans; better in the sense that the sperm-rich fraction is ejected more thoroughly before thinning out, though I know some vets like to mix the second and third fractions in the belief that it actually helps preserve the semen better during cryo. Never really believed that myself.

Still, back on topic: Masturbating a dog in and of itself isn't harmful. Period. To call this "animal cruelty" is ridiculous.

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Dingo Mike

Just pathetic...

This is ridiculous. It is a very, *very* well known (but unspoken of) practice, amongst K-9 law enforcement, trainers, and showdog handlers, to masturbate male (and even female) dogs who are in high-stress training situations. It helps them blow off excess energy, releases endorphines that help counteract the stresses they experience in their training, and helps consolidate the relationship between the handler and the dog that makes for a much more responsive partnership.

Masturbating a dog is about as harmful as playing fetch with it; sure, the dog could suffer a relatively rare paraphimosis in the case of a male, or a possible mild vaginitis if female and the masturbator hasn't got clean hands, but then playing ball with a dog can result in all sorts of injuries as well. To turn this into a crime, to suggest that the dog was somehow hurt, is just ridiculous, and testament to the ultraconservative prudishness the USA suffers from, and other countries are starting to go the same way.

Pathetic.

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Dingo Mike

@ jake: In regards to AI...

@ jake:

Natural assisted matings, yes you are right. But AI? Do you even know what the acronym stands for? Semen collection for freezing and later use, or for breeding soundness examination (semen quality assessment), involved a lot of genital handling. Yes, it should be done in as sterile a fashion as possible in that case, but simply masturbating a dog is going to contaminate it about sa much as a dog licking its own genitals.

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