546 posts • joined Wednesday 28th October 2009 14:38 GMT
Never let the truth get in the way of making money
And this law was all about making money. Nothing to do with trade mark or peoples jobs or dying industries. Governments must allow us to charge what ever we want for the crap we produce… while we continue to avoid tax!
LMFAO 15 mths dribble
hmmmmm Premier Brand perhaps
Re: Not 'blackmailable'
And never will be untill some CIO's/Directors start doing jail time for breaches of this nature.
Until that happens it’s just somebody else problem and not worth worrying about.
Criminal prosecutions required please.
Don't fuck with leprechauns...
you won't be told twice.
Protecting the poor artists and creators like......
Jimmy Carr, U2, Bob Geldolf, and Gary Barlow who are costing the UK jobs by avoiding tax on the money they are earning in the UK.
I would love to see the amounts of money hidden from the UK tax man by these bastions of UK Industry that are asking for our sympathy and protection from the scourge on internet piracy.
What we need is a global law to protect us from the 'Globally Tax' compliant.
Think about the poor creatives
The........ Jimmy Carr's, Gary Barlow, Howard Donald, Mark Owen, The U2's and the Bob Geldolf's struggling with all the money they are losing.
Somebody is being robbed and its not them!
Pay tax then we can talk about fairness
things ai't gonna change until
some budget holder does some serious jail time.
Until then its just somebody else's money
odafone the second largest ....with annual revenues around £7bn.
I believe Vodafone didn't make any profit in the UK which is why they didn't pay any tax. All those profits went through an empty office in Switzerland and as such are not liable for tax in any country.
phew that's lucky another year with no tax liability.
Global tax compliance will cost us all our jobs.
Since I left...... 1992
the place has changed beyond all recognition. My (English) wife and kids love to visit as it’s so picturesque.
......also the Irish girls sleep with you if you're a visitor as they won’t have to marry you.
What a waste of money
What is the point in spending money buying bloody politicians if the great unwashed are just going to go a thumb their nose at us.
This is not the way it's supposed to be.
Shame on the UK Government, Europe once more defending your citizens for you.
I think he said to the kid play on here
while I go and bone your Mum.
Really dumb think to do with gambling sites having 'keep me logged in' automatically ticked.
But without any way to really disable that then these things are gonna happen. Call of nature and the need to distract the little ones.
This means that there was no actual hacking of our server.
Oh so that all right then.
The weakest part of any network is the 'dumb fucks' in charge of it.
The Queens Knickers.....
my kids love this book...........
Special offer might be worth a visit to WH Smith's.
Interesting advertising strategy by the way.
Is there not some anti-competition thing going on here
Didn't Microsoft get taken to the cleaners for not shipping with an alternative browsers?
Why is this any different? They are barring a supplier from their product... or refusing to support a legacy TV's.
Why is a TV older that this year being classed as a legacy? Can they not be made to implement the change under anti-competition rules?
'Also a company has an obligation to it's shareholders to maximise profits'
They also have a legal obligation to pay tax just the same as I do. Which come's first.... I believe the law of this land says Tax first profits later.
Of course when all your profits are funnelled through a empty office in Switzerland that may change but it still doesn't make it right.
funny how my obligation seems to be unaffected by my offers of free lunch.
Did IQ's suddenly drop while I was away
this seems to me to be another example of the RIAA bulling the ISP. The ISP won which means they were right and the RIAA were wrong. But the lawyers appear to be arguing that the judgement is wrong and the law in Australia is wrong based on the successes or perceived successes of the rest of the world.
So America to invade Australia next?
This article and the comments from the lawyer sound more like trying to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat.
Ohhh things are gonna change.... doom and gloom. It could be worse. Could it?
Well in case people hadn't noticed tax evasion/fraud/avoidance is doing serious damage to all the economies around the world.
A lot of people in this country are losing their jobs and livelihoods and if MegaCorp's like Vodafone and others paid their taxes their maybe a few less people would be losing their jobs.
So 'Go India' get your tax!
Where the pirate witch hunter general? AO
He will rein fire and brimstone down on you for such blasphemous words.
dissent will be crushed. Nothing must stand in the way of progress... opps sorry progress must be stopped if it affects our bottom line.
No nothing must change…… our profits must go up or else we will legislate, sue punish and imprison
Didn't this man kill babies
So what is the problem here either he killed babies/supported terrorism/stole cars or he didn't.
If he didn't why did the FBI/et all shut down a multimillion $ internet Business?
Or is this just another WMD Story
enquiring minds want to know
Is the key word.
doing something..... is a completely different matter.
Someday I am going to win the lottery.....
the reality is I may never win the lottery.
Articles and Authors
Can we categorise the authors/articles as well.
1. Well informed author/article writing a well balanced article.
2. Single sided diatribe with no grounding in reality and not open for honest criticism or debate.
Can we recognise the types?
Outstanding Analysis.... thank you.
I often find many of Andrew's articles inflammatory and certainly divisive. Some of his articles about Piracy are just shocking and are designed for nothing else than to create conflict.
I offered him this article on the BBC as a way to appear to provide a balanced argument on eBook copyright:
Interesting to see if will he go for it. But I think we already know the answer to that.
Good point but if eBooks are going to cost the same as Paper Books. Why spend all the money on eBook readers and infrastructure to support their use. Sounds more like another Gubbermint IT Elephant
Using eBooks should be cheaper and easier because I for one enjoy a good paper book.
And what would Christmas be like. Here I bought you a eBook. I'll email it to you. Its hardly the same
Just keep Library's open and then every child in the country can enjoy a real book.
No but is it reasonable that eBooks cost the Public Sector more than the current paper based versions?
So any saving made by the Government in closing Library's and detrimentally affecting our children's future is fed to MegaCorp.
I'm supporting Library's and our children's future as well as the public purse.
EBooks versus Traditional Books
I believe this debate is around how many reuses a electronic book should be allowed within a school and are eBooks as worthwhile for authors as traditional books.
Currently when a school receives a paper book they are allowed to wrap it in stiff plastic wrapper to extend the books life through many sets of grubby little hands. This usually gives a book an average life of 10 uses. Some are longer some are shorter. Depends how well the book is made and how popular it is with the kids .
Book houses are proposing that when electronic books are issued to schools the digital books are restricted to 6 uses as well as a time frame before a book has to be repurchased with no regard for how many times it is issued.
I believe Julia is more concerned with the closing of traditional library's as she will sell much less traditional books. Moving schools to electronic books holds nothing for authors as they won't be repaid for reissues as the electronic licenses will remain with eBook house which are different organisations from the traditional book houses.
The current moves of the ConDem government is to get better value from schools is driving the move to eBooks as they are cheaper. No Library, No Librarian's, no storage, no transport cost. Fixed costs every year. Perfect for the ConDem world.
So i think this is less about copyright but more around this governments efforts to rid this fine country of our Library's and free access to education.
decent service that's launched over an IP network since Spotify
Quote from gizmag: 'A claim dating back to November 2009 had it that in the five months since its launch in Sweden, Spotify racked up one million plays of Lady Gaga's 'Poker Face', and paid the artist just US$167 (GBP100) in royalties'
The argument is less about the poor creatives but more about the middlemen taking the lions share. Steam/Spoitify proves that give people a decent price and they will pay. What most people object to (hardcore pirates excluded) is the middle men to keep the price artifically high and thus swelling their profits which they do not share with the poor creatives.
I would rather recieve a warning
Than a letter from ACS:Law or their like.
Not that I do download. (Steam is way good enough for me). The only thing that worries me is what if they get it wrong. My understanding is that if a Rights Holder see's my IP in a torrent swam or such like then they can write to my ISP who will send me a warning letter.
I am then notified that 'something' is amiss as I don't download. I can then query the letter.
And say not me 'Yer Honour'. Or will they just look at my spending habits and say this dude isn't spending enough money with us. Better send him a warning letter?
Clarification required here.
Of course you could use the U2 method
money is paid to their shell company based in the Holland which incurs only a 10% tax dividend (if that)
Bono et al. Of course don't get paid themselves they just do it for the love. So they have zero tax liability.
of course I could be completely wrong and St Bono pays billions in tax while helping the starving millions. But interestingly U2 MegaCorp moved their Business to Holland when Ireland hit the rocks and had to ask/beg/plead with U2 MegaCorp to help us out.
Let me help
Vodafone, Burton, Barclay's and pretty much any other company that pay's their wages and bonus's through off shore shell companies would be a good place to start looking for a few billion.
There you go... a few billion saved and I gave you that for free.
Another idea... a few less expensive lunches is sure to make the tax receipts go up.
So if this is what the publicly funded SOCA/Police are doing
What duties will our new Private/Contractor Police force be involved in.
hmmm somehow I think yet again Joe Public is getting the thin end of the blue line here.
Re: There is a simple way to stop this
I think you are missing the point here.
Everybody makes money out of this... so where is the harm?
Oops sorry everybody except the poor sucker that has to pay. Now if the telco's had to pay I think you would find security a lot tighter.
Vodafone pay your tax
No mention of where this business is based so that somebody can work out the tax liability.
Oh well I guess it will be business as usual for VodaFone.
Tax.... what's tax?
Ahhh I see Tax is the stuff which we take from our employees wages and filter through numerous off shore shell companies until it gets lost down the back of the sofa.
Yoda's journey to the dark side is complete.
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