243 posts • joined Wednesday 16th May 2007 17:36 GMT
Clouds **** on you...
Given how dreadful the normal version is, I can only imagine just how poor the ".cloud" was.
Judging by the forums, the product I dumped years ago is still awful and the .cloud only has 20 threads anyhow so I think nobody used it anyway.
Re: Nomin..ally paying attention to what people asked
(a) Users who just "google" it on smartphones and every other device they have. They don't type URLs, so it isn't needed and won't make it helpful or easier.
(b) you will need to maintain both, because some people will think .co.uk and others will expect .uk - if there was not a relevant link, why would Nominet have decided (against what was actually offered/discussed) to have this 5 year "reservation" based on ownership of co.uk (and not the "oldest registered variant" including the SLDs etc).
(c) I'll have to have both .co.uk and .uk because users won't really know the difference or which is valid, so rather than lose them, I'll have to support both. In many cases this also means having both variants available for e-mail and so on and so forth. Nominet's assertion that it'll only cost £2.50/year on multi-year terms ignores the other potential costs in having to add yet more duplication and so on elsewhere).
I would wager that the majority of .uk's sold will be to the same people who have the .co.uk variant now. And those that aren't registered will remain unregistered and unloved in both. Like they are now.
I'd also be prepared to wager that a huge % of .com names registered by a company are also registered by the same company in .co.uk if they do, or think they might do business here whever possible. Which means they'll also add .uk too - so that's 3 variants now and most of the time they don't go to different sites either, so it's completely pointless but necessary because consumers don't really know .com from .co.uk and if they even type the address (see (a)) they wont' know which to expect.
Nomin..ally paying attention to what people asked
Sorry? Greater choice? We're reserving them if already registered in .co. or .org. so er, what? It just means now I'll need to maintain 2 domains in .uk at least for the foreseeable for each one I held before.
More cost, no gain.
Business demand? From who? I don't see anyone who has demanded anything - given most people don't even type web addresses and google things (we watch this every day when supporting customers) it could be .whateverbecausenobodyusesit for all intents and purposes. The only time people seem to use it is for e-mail.
It'll just cause more confusion - should I e-mail firstname.lastname@example.org or email@example.com or... what a joke.
I honestly have no idea why this is being done, and if you look at the consultation, it doesn't seem like many others do too.
How long before nominet becomes a "for profit" company -- it won't be long. It's doing all the things that would make it closer and closer to becoming an instant profit maker based on things accepted because "oh well they're not-for-profit" - it has a surplus all the time anyhow last I saw and ended up doing things like the nominet foundation to get shot of some of it.
I genuinely don't see any benefit. And Nominet might as well have not bothered with a consultation because they are just ignoring everyone.
Re: uses a smart phone ... as the remote control unit.
Dunno how the Sonos does it, but the Squeezebox stuff handles that - if my phone rings, it pauses the music and when we're done it plays again. You can even tell it not to play again if the call went on for more than 'x' time.
Long live my discontinued squeezebox.
20% thinner, 100% more combustable.
Available in chargrilled black
That's "magical and revolutionary" is it?
In this office, we hate printers. Always.
Every support job that involves them makes us all cry and actively do anything to avoid it.
Printers, Printer Drivers, Printing. It sucks. Always.
Not just Vodafone and EE, BB 10.2 out for phones on 3 5 too...
Re: False flag (key)
Yes that's right. It's just that. Literally nothing else has happened.
Do shut up about the bloody Start Button/Menu. It's the least relevant part of Windows. It's just the bit people are making a lot of fuss about without any genuinely compelling reason.
How to launch app - Windows Vista:
hit windows key, type "Wor" and MS Word is there selected
How to launch app - Windows 7:
hit windows key, type "Word" and MS Word is there selected
How to launch app - Windows 8:
hit windows key, type "Word" and MS Word is there selected
How to launch app - Windows 8.1:
hit windows key, type "Word" and MS Word is there selected
That's assuming you've not already already pinned it to the taskbar. Etc Etc. And in most cases you can type even less depending on what you have installed. If you use the app all the time and you like the clicky clicky way of doing things, you can pin it, stick it near the beginning of start and so on.
Do get with the way the UI has worked for several releases now. I don't even really *see* the metro/tifkam/whatever screen at work because that's how everything is done.
At home I see it ALL the time because I don't really have any need for the desktop mode.
If my mum can use Windows 8, having NEVER used a computer before, and being the type to still call me and ask how to set her bedside alarm clock up, I can only assume the average person who reads this supposedly technically biased site is so utterly lacking in basic IT skills they have hired a friend to even comment about how they dislike Windows 8 so much.
Every single person I've given windows 8 to (and that's an awful lot of people) is coping just fine, regardless of skill. I spent 5 minutes showing them everything. It's called training. You may have done it as a child to learn how to use a loo. Same thing, not sure why it's so much of a crisis that once every few minutes a bit of learning is needed.
Basic outline of training needed:
"Here's how to shut it down" - admittedly added as everyone asked. Fair do.
"Here's how to start your programs" - only an issue for people I've not shown Vista upwards
"Here's what this key on the keyboard does" - only an issue for people I've not shown Vista upwards
"OK great, you're good to go, give me a shout if you have any issues..."
"Oh yeah, everything else you already do, please crack on"
Re: Not for those with 2 drives....
Is that because you did it in an unsupported, eg you moved it literally? Or did you actually do it properly so Windows knows where to find the critical profiles path?
The #fail is on you.
Really? Because it was seamlessly integrated into the power button on my Motorola Atrix some years back.
It's better than the apple setup because it is positioned so you can swipe and still hold easily with one hand.
Apple are at least a couple years behind.
Re: Uploading 10TB
Annex M allows up to around 2.5 meg
432k is a BT imposed limit on some grades of service unless you had the max option when you got 832k
1.3 meg is the standard on adsl2+ as delivered by BT etc
Providers like plus net still cripple you to 432 unless you specifically ask and so on.
Annex M though is certainly not what you describe.
Re: Yes Outlook used to be great
Are you referring to the change in the 2007 version to allow files bigger than 2GB? It's not like the old ones don't work?
Or are you referring to something else?
I get fantastic speeds on 3, and the one plan is good value for money when you consider I can tether, use as much as I want (for real) and get a very generous text and voice bundle too.
I'm in no rush to get 4G with poorer coverage, and even worse battery life than we all get now.
I'm so used to streaming my favourite Internet radio station, watching my Sky TV via sling player and such when out and about or working away the idea of going to another network with poor speeds and capped service makes me cry.
Personally I think Microsoft is toast if it keeps competing against it's own partners.
You know, the ones who are responsible for promoting and implementing what it does. If they think they can just "go direct" and just do Office 365 and ditch partners (and in the interim offering silly "incentives" which will ultimately cut them out), they'll find out that they will also lose out.
Those partners aren't gonna want to go out of business, so they'll be lining up alternative propositions and it's not difficult to make more compelling services than MS offer that appeal to the very people those partners have expert knowledge of.
Smells of fail over in that cloud.
Not hard to see why HP are losing if you sell it...
I'll tell you why HP are losing sales...
Because they've dropped quality. We used to sell a LOT of HP stuff, but then they started using custom power supplies, giving absolutely ZERO way to expand (not even a second SATA drive or 2nd memory slot) and other ridiculous changes.
Oh and reliability has fallen off a cliff too.
...and now we don't sell HP. Hero to Zero.
Re: Good move; but still too little, too late...
I don't know what "Windows Phone" you got running 7, but my humble Lumia 710, bought for the purpose of seeing what WinPhone is like, has had 7.5, and 7.8 and has another update pending as soon as I get around to it - more than one - in fact I reckon I've had 5-6 updates now.
My Galaxy note 2 meanwhile... 2 updates thus far, neither of which have added new features as far as I can see (there is an update with new stuff but my carrier hasn't bothered to approve it).
I do sort of like Windows Phone, although 7.8 and 8 have removed a couple of minor things I really liked (for example apps list was alphabetical with letters to start them off, tap a letter, get an alphabet, tap the letter you want and jump to it... neat if you have loads of apps and faster than the scrolling approach everyone else uses (and now WinPhone has joined in...)
A minor feature, not a dealbreaker, but the sort of UI tweaks that make something more compelling to me as it makes it faster to use and I like "just getting on with it" (or JFDI as we call it)
Office 365 is very little cloud to be honest. I hate it, I don 't sell it and we regularly help people move away from it once they realize.
It is in a nutshell hosted exchange (plenty of choice already for that), a copy of office on loan as part of the sub (that yes you do install - although you can have a few installs - very generous of them), and access to Skydrive with "more storage than the free version").
There are other bells and whistles but frankly they aren't worth it or matter to most people.
It isn't what I define as "Cloud" in any great sense of the word.
Re: Microsoft FAIL
Already possible within the various MS products and licenses today.
"What happens with a fatal node crash, how do you migrate when you can't get at the VM image?"
You would of course have already enabled replication, so you can fire up the VM on another host - and if you were smart you'd have configured it to replicate with multiple replication points so you can quickly roll back if you needed to - obviously the circumstances and role of the system may influence this, and it does require a little intervention, but it's a perfectly acceptable trade off in many scenarios.
From Server 2012 R2 you'll also have triple replication capability - something I'm looking forward to.
Hyper-V is really very good when you consider it comes with the main OS - although I think it's a little unfair to suggest it's "free" simply because the cost of Server 2012 went up, and they removed the base 5 CALs from the package, so there is a cost, even if it's a bit more stealthy.
Fundamentally then it just means more companies adding another domain or 10 to the number they hold for brand protection and will make no significant difference.
I think the main question is why does Nominet, the supposedly not for profit setup seem to be desperate to increase its revenue despite having plenty of surplus year after year??
Re: It's Simple...
Presumably the "training" people weren't involved then? Of course, there's nothing different in Office 2013 to Office 95 either, well if you haven't given any training anyhow...
For typical daytime use, in most cases, the same few apps are used, so pin those to start screen and/or task bar. Problem solved. Spend all of 10 minutes showing people what has changed.
Result = more productive staff, less cost to administer your IT long term (no really, how many patches, hotfixes, updates, scripts and workarounds did you need to install on each XP machine?!?!)
Re: If car manufacturers were to do the same...
You mean the way some cars have a button for a handbrake now, or "flappy paddle" gear changing...
Some people like change.
Re: Search as primary means of navigation?
You mean like you could do in Vista, 7 and 8...
That just type the first couple of characters approach ain't nothing new...
Well as you're an "IT consultant" I can imagine you're happy holding people back, since that gives you every opportunity to screw them for consultancy money advising them how to make life difficult increasingly over the next 'n' years supporting old junk.
Meanwhile since we actually show our customers the benefits, we're rolling out Windows 8 to our customers at every opportunity - and this "start menu" nonsense is a complete red herring, and there's no reason to not gain the benefits of Windows 8 for the sake of that - and actually if you show people how to use Windows 8 (y'know training, something most companies I guess don't bother with... more fool them) they adopt it just fine.
The improvements in 8.1 will only go to re-inforcing my positive view of Windows 8. Would I go back to Windows 7? God no, that'd be a horrible retrospective step. Do I miss the start menu? Not really, I haven't been "clicking" though that menu since Vista, and 8 let's me carry on just hitting windows, then typing the name ("word") and voila, off I go...
Re: You like hard questions? ;)
Reasons to use 2012 not 2008:
a) If you use Remote Desktop, it's miles better. At everything.
b) If you use Remote Access, it scales further.
c) If you use the centralised deployment, it saves you lots of time
d) If you use Hyper-V, there is literally no comparison between 2008 and 2012.
e) If you use SMB3, try telling me that's not better.
There are LOADS of reasons.
Re: Eadon might come across as a bit of a twat ...
My view on Server 2012 is generally that it's the best thing MS have done in the server space in a long time. Server 2003 feels as old and irritating as XP does. 2008 is "OK" but I never really loved it. 2012 is the mutts. I've upgraded everything I can find wherever possible to it, I don't regret it for a second. Everything works, our reliability has shot up, and administration is miles easier.
The Licensing Changes do suck - for example no 5 CALs included in the base product, madness.
"Microsoft makes great technology. This isn't the same company that turned out Windows NT. Those who can't get over 10 or 15 year old prejudices need to grow the fuck up. There's a lot to bitch at Microsoft about, but increasingly the raw technology they put out is not it."
Exactly that. In the server space, the products are excellent. I even really like Windows 8. Try finding a machine in our office not running one of the 2... it's getting much harder.
The problem with the surface is/was price mostly - the RT version should have been £399 WITH the type cover etc. In fact, had it been I would have bought one. Because it wasn't, I actually spent more and bought the Ideapad Yoga as it had other benefits too, and I'm very happy with it.
Win RT is absolutely fine (I found - like I do normally) that web browsing is absolutely fine once you bin off ads which thanks to being overly bloated and mostly seem to be served from very slow servers relatively speaking just slow everything down.
I've not massively yearned for other apps yet, pretty much the stuff I most use is all available in the various metro/tifkam/start screen apps or whatever they're called. I don't expect it to replace a laptop, but the incredibly good battery life, neat sync with my full fat all in one win 8 machine etc actually works really well.
MS screwed up on pricing big time. Should have done a cut price introduction to get it out there, made it available widely (wtf were they thinking MS site only... madness....) and included the keyboard since it was one of the big advantages of it over icraps etc - it's not an advantage if you have to buy it distinctly (cause y'know you could for the icrap too)
Long/short anyhow - Surface not a bad device, WinRT not bad for it's purpose. But cost/compromises stupid. And easily fixed before launch. Stupid MS again. They just keep shooting themselves.
"No innovations - for many the '5' was a step up from the '4' series - bigger screen, thinner, faster, same battery life is not bad when what can you do with a phone - add a stylus like Samsung (lol)."
Yeah cause the only thing Samsung have done is add a "stylus" (ignoring that some of us who buy devices like the Note 2 specifically wanted and find the stylus/pen useful). lol indeed.
Re: Doubling? Did I miss something? Yes you did.
Well I'm glad you explained that as el reg spectacularly failed to do so.
They may as well make this site one big wiki and we can all just make edits, it wouldn't affect the quality of journalism.
Re: I'd just like to quote Bordan Tkachuk...
Yeah, that's still annoying me too. He was actually worse than "the brand" himself.
Nothing to do with the Hypervisor AFAIK
Just for clarity, assuming it was Virtual on Hyper (nothing to suggest that's all they use), sending a cursory pile of blame in the direction of MS sounds a little unfair if classic el Reg.
As for as I have seen the issue is not the hypervisor tech, but storage. Hyper is really very good actually, I but if tardhosts are not using it properly by ensuring storage isn't the weak point it hardly MS for the blame
Of course Chrome regularly gets patches - but silently so the majority of people have no idea it is getting updates... but let's bash IE because they're more public and structured.
Where's Eadon to stick the irrelevant boot in?!?
Re: Put an iPhone beside a...
No no, you're using all the other keyboards wrong...
Isn't that how that sort of glaring stupidity is considered?!?
Re: Fragmentation is GOOD
I agreed with most of your post about the fragmentation until you slated Windows Phone.
Actually Windows Phone works pretty well on very limited hardware, which is why there are increasingly "landfill" options coming out from Nokia (the only people really making Win Phones if we're honest apart from HTC).
And the Windows Phone UX is actually mostly very good - I was surprised. I haven't got an WinPho 8 device yet, but I mostly use Android (see other posts) but also have a blackberry Z10. The Blackberry Z10 has the best smoothness of operation and is a very well thought out business capable OS while we're at it - in fact there are quite a lot of IOS7 features that looks like they were taken straight from the Blackberry OS.
And fragmentation can be useful and Android certainly has enabled lots of stuff - like the kindle fires, nooks, various embedded devices, powers smart watches, remotes, small more "traditional" format computers and so on. IOS7 is intentionally constrained to those very specific form factors. It has benefits, but it also has downsides.
Well I guess it depends why that is...
Maybe iPhone uses spend 50% more time on it because it takes longer to do anything on it. It's a nonsense statistic as presented of course.
Fact is I have many Android devices in my house, and most of them are only used for a few minutes a day. Why? Because I'm using Android to power smart remotes and so on, so I just don't *need* to use them all day. I'm sure there are plenty of other reasons and probably more widespread than my example though.
The "uses it more" statistic had no useful context to determine what that meant and so it means absolutely nothing. Like most statistics.
Re: Non-problem? Hardly.
The lack of control over permissions on Android does increasingly irritate me.
Especially when I'm using my Blackberry Z10 where I can say "actually this app can't use location services" but I'm ok with it reading stuff from my contact book" if I so want.
Why the hell android does not allow ME to control that I have no idea.
Um... I think you might have missed the point somewhat my friend.
Windows *can* provide this triple cloud (don't blame MS for the stupid use of the word and the almost meaningless definition it now has), but it doesn't say nor require you to engage in this.
If "in house" and "azure" with some "third party hosted" makes sense, fill your boots. If it doesn't, no worries, as you were!
another day another eadon
Just to debunk a few random selections from today's nonsense from Eadon...
a) Windows Server 2012 quite happily runs hundreds of virtual machines. Can, does and keeps running them.
b) Licensing not that complex - datacentre edition permits unlimited virtuals on a host, so to license the core OS, you buy, er datacentre edition per host. We're done with that.
Re: Alright then, who was it?
And thanks to that post now all I can hear is the Rhianna track with that lyric.
Too little, too late.
Shame they did this now, too late IMO.
The big selling point of the Surface series is that detachable keyboard and it should have come with one of the type or touch covers as standard. Because it didn't, I felt a bit miffed that they wanted an extra £100 or so for it, so instead, despite being much more, I've bought a Lenovo Ideapad Yoga, which I love.
WinRT is more than adequate on the Ideapad for the purposes I have that device so I'm happy. Microsoft missed the boat really.
Re: Taking Dell to court
Sounds a bit like my experience of Dell just after they moved production to Poland (I think it was there?) a few years back.
Spent £4,000 on a laptop. Should have been absolutely mindblocwing. Precision 4440 I think it was, quad Core i7 extreme, 16GB memory (maybe 32GB, I forget), GPS, light up keyboard (useful on call actually), batteries of never-ending-capacity, ridiculously high res screen etc etc.
The theory was that this would be my desktop replacement, does it all machine.
It arrived. It bluescreened.
I had the 4 hour warranty.
I had many many many visits.
Each time it was more broken than the last time. Reinstalled each time (new hard discs aplenty), but never properly so drivers were missing for all sorts, like USB 3, or the wireless usb, or whatever.
Many months of arguing the toss with Dell, resulted in "going to take you to court then" and pointed out I could almost certainly get the story in the press given the well documented and epic catalogue of failures.
Laptop went back, money (eventually) refunded, bought the HP Elitebook, I originally wanted (but wasn't released at the time), and never cared since. Said Elitebook still working like a champ and only recently have I moved to a desktop again but mostly because I want/need several monitors.
Since then I've refused to buy from Dell, and unless my customers absolutely insist, won't buy the junk they peddle for them either.
Re: I'm going
I think you mean just an alternative Fibre Broadband Provider.
Infinity is a brand name of BT's for the Retail Fibre service they offer.
FTTC (the fibre most people have that can get it) is a wholesale product many ISPs offer.
Please don't help BT in making everyone believe Infinity IS fibre and thus they're the only game in town, they've already nabbed the majority of the business.
Re: Windows, Windows,
Pretending you were seriously believing this for just a moment.
It's all nonsense. You do not have to reactivate Windows in this type of environment, assuming you installed the right version to start with. Poor quality trolling.
Re: reasons it has been so popular in small businesses
You mean when VERITAS made it... Yeah I remember those days...
Re: I don't get the this Landfill Android meme
"The implication is that these devices are pretty much worthless and should be consigned to landfill."
Because they often are exactly that. With cripplingly slow processors and a lack of memory, they fill up just installing basic and common apps, let alone anything fancy.
...and since people think "Android" means "always the same" in terms of capabilities, just like they think a Windows Laptop for £200 will be as good as the £1000 ones (admittedly sometimes true, but you know what I mean...) it's no wonder they're then fed up and blame Android for the device issues later...
Re: Backup Exec - DPM
and more importantly, DPM actually works. Practically flawlessly.
They stubbed toes, I broke my leg with Backup Exec.
Backup Exec. Ah yes, the product I dumped a few years ago because nothing works properly, it's unreliable, it often won't restore, the features are never well executed ("now you can do disk to disk to tape" they said... um yeah, but I'm basically backing up the server multiple times, whereas real DDT would do the backup once, then mirror the backup to another site etc).
That kind of madness pushed me over the edge, never mind its ridiculous error condition handling, the shockingly inept support, the never ending bengine has crashed faults, the jobs gone on hold forever for no reason conditions.
If they stubbed toes on that product, I sure as hell broke my leg. Twice.
Several years on and I spend less on backup software, I get a completely reliable environment I trust and I spend just a couple of hours a week on backup tasks, whereas Backup Exec made it a daily chore.
What is interesting is that Microsoft don't seem that bothered about Nokia either. At the last few events I've been to where Windows Phone was being showcased, the MS staff made it quite clear that the HTC 8X is the preferred model and the one they all sported, recommended and said they would get. I'd have expected them to heavily sway for Nokia by corporate instruction but it seems not.
Some have suggested MS are ultimately trying to kill Nokia to swoop in and get the patents. This may be true, but it seems a long winded way to do it.
Why they killed everything is beyond all credibility to everyone bar the boss. They should have released some Android stuff, even if it was just to bridge the gap - after all, it is established, accepted and would have been readily available to ship by comparison, giving them money coming in while they developed the other strategies.
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