91 posts • joined 24 Sep 2009
Re: Competition at work
Unfortunately very little of this is about cost, it's about revenue retention. BT has no real incentive to get people off the copper, as they are still making billions from landlines and copper based retail.wholesale services. The revenue is declining, and at a rapid rate, which has made BT execs finally take note and start deployining some fibre passed the cab.
However if BT was really serious about getting FTTH deployed they would have joined forces with the utilitiy companies water/gas etc who are passing homes all over the country replacing the infrastructure right up to the front door....
The resistance inside BT was enormous when this was proposed....and they don't seem to be embracing it anytime soon.
21CN ...the waste
The UK could have already done most of the fiber to the home roll-out with the money which was spend on 21CN.
Add to that the continued incremental upgrades for DSL, "polishing the copper", which nicely keeps BT OpenReach going...ops I mean OpenReach a BT Group company...they get pissy about the name. ;)
Anyone from the old G-CTO Group at BT care to comment on their lack of extraordinary lack of foresight and wastefulness? Come to think of it anyone in the recent BT Design group wanna pitch in also?
friends and family stock too?
Now I wonder who might buy them in 9-12 months time.... oh the pondering lol
Priceless and good.. Don't sign a confidentiality agreement and tell anyone what was in it.
So he pays it off anyway, but it's not on direct debit.... yeah I can smell something and it ain't the flowers.
Finger print it and arrest the moron
This person needs a reminder on the subject of decency...
3-6 months being "explored" in the showers should make them rethink their approach to life.
Wake up Apple
I'm just saying....
I work for a company with in the Valley with 10k plus of Macs...zero Apple tools used there too.
Perhaps we just don't need them, but then we are heading to a place where any OS is just a hypervisor for Apps....
So now donate it all to charity
As it's not about patents or profile....and you have more money than God already, do something useful Apple and the entire settlement to worthy causes....
yep thats right she managed a deployment of "fibre broadband"...over COPPER. !!
I wonder if she will also be pontificating at her new job, as at BT she was rumored to have once pronounced in a meeting she would "be taking that (some issue) to Number 10"
What a wonderful sense of overblown self importance exists with these execs...
Oh she will be missed. lol
Why the thumbs down? Do you actually work in or contribute to the IETF and even understand it....? My guess is not.
But if you do either know anything, or are actually attending then lets meet in the lobby of hotel in Vancouver where it is being hosted this week @ 11.30 PST and discuss it....yes that's right I'm actually there...
Wow, you clearly know nothing about the IETF, it's members and how it operates.
So Google is rich enough to actually take on the US and UK government..... When does the blah blah blah stop from the CEO and some legal action begin?
Otherwise it's all just some bullshit pronouncements
Re: "It's called free speech"
As I assume you are not a lawyer then you will be perfectly ok if you wake up one day no one serves you in any shop, bar, restaurant, denies you to board a train, stop and searches you, locks you up for 72 hours under section 7, stops you attending any sporting activity...the list is endless
So yeah a guy sticking up for himself with the ultimate result of letting Easy Jet know their bullshit is bullshit..... thank fuck for a typical lawyer...
reason number....oh I lost count already.
Yet another reason I never fly them...
MS still locked in 1990's OS upgrades and installs
Everything from the price to the install methods are 25 years out of date...
my time on FB is over
These changes are just a step to far. I have accepted up until now that I'm the product, but names and faces to be given out is the end of it for me.
Instead of everyone bitching about this and that, either get off FB or stay on and shut up. You don't have to be there.
If you add up all the controls, interception and flagrant misuse of privacy, the internet is pretty much dead when compared to the original ideals behind it.
It's time to evolve again.
Even if Job's had written and appeared in it himself, it would still be full of much fiction. Anything some one point of view, or even a few points of view is still far from the actual.
It's a documovie, nothing more.
Re: Hypothetically speaking
You don't...you destroy them.
When replaced you get a machine with some level of disk/physical encryption.
Classic - "but it's hard" public sector answer... It's not hard, and considering the massive overspend on IT across Government money is not even the problem, it just requires compedency and effort.
Why was it not encrypted to start with?
The truly staggering lack of any decent IT across the Government spectrum of departments is just no surprise anymore.
The first question to really ask is .....why was the data on the drive not encrypted to start with?
Problem is we all know the answer. Despite that we (taxpayers) pay about 40 times the cost for state run IT than a private company would, and we get zero value for it.
From my personal experience having to deal with Government IT, +their contractors, the compedence level and skill set is so astondingly low for internal staff, with the contractors often not a lot higher, plus there is little incentive to finish a project ontime or on cost on either side. Internal don't get fired, contractors want longer contracts...
Sale of Goods Act trumps Google bs
Nice of Google to open themselves to an instant UK legal challenge. you can't be prevented from reselling something you own, and control over that item can't be extended in the way Google is looking to do..
Re: Anything to delay the last mile fibre..
I certainly would not make the assumption that everyone here is an outsider making wild opinion, and don't know exactly what they are talking about when it comes to BT, it's internal workings, politics and architecture....
However my point was clearly aimed at the regulator /gov and it's total lack of teeth and clue when it comes to providing the country with a FTTH.
Anything to delay the last mile fibre..
Here we go again. Almost no one will benefit from this as the distance from the cab to the home so great.
BT has consistantly been obstructive when it comes to FTTH and the regulator / gov are a complete joke when it comes to a joined up strategy. So instead of this money being used to make an actual difference somewhere it's being wasted to patch up the infrastructure.
The regulator is hopeless when it comes to a plan for FTTH, there is not even a joint partnership framework with other utility companies to lay fibre. London and the South East for example are having the water supplies to all houses replaced, all the way to the front door, they have just finished my road.
So we are already in the process of visting the home, digging and replacing infrastructure, but one bit at a time. Gas was the previous year, and BT is still running fresh copper to both new builds and existing. Even if you can't dig fibre over the poles has been used in other countries for years, which is BT has also constantly opposed as a method for FTTH.
BT instead spent the money on 21CN, to migrate voice....which did not happen, and cost around 15 billion, not far from the cost of FTTH by BT's own inflated estimates.
But...... it's not about the consumer, it's about protecting the unionised jobs at BT and all the little kingdoms the sad middle management types have created.
Mr Regulator - wake the fuck up and learn something about NG Broadband and stop relying on misinformation from the incumbent.
was just a matter of time for him and GroupOn in general
the entire concept is fundamentally flawed from both the user and the seller side. It sounds great,but ask a retailer...they are not enjoying
nice try, #FAIL it seems
Do OR guys then book the boot time of the BT build on their daily sheets?
Oh the fun of a BT laptop with a BT internal IT build on it.
Last time I saw one of these it was just under 20mins to boot up and load all the 'security' soft/mal-ware install by BT IT. The constant hangs and crashes and totally draconian restrictions on Internet access, as the Internet is seen as a bad thing inside the corp, for stealing all their lovely telco revenue and destroying the 'walled garden'
Re: Late, Lame and Laughable....
As of this afternoon "Facebook Messenger Now Supports Voice Calling for U.S. Accounts" and it's coming to the UK soon too, naturally.
This is the type of voice App that around 1 billion users will soon have. Socially integrated, not dependent on having a fixed line somewhere in their life.
BT was approached about backending something similar, but the response was that Apps and Social Networking where neither important to customers or would catch on. The same BT that only a few years ago had a BT Retail exec telling the media that he could see no demand for more than 2meg to the home....
It is hard to be kind....
Re: I foresee a problem.
True, but it is wack-a-mole at the carrier level. If you connect to a VPN, say as a corporate user or you have a public/private one you can get to, then the mobile carrier loses pretty much all control of what apps you are using over their network.
Re: Late, Lame and Laughable....
Why a thumbs down?
BT has completely failed to deliver a VOIP or any Next Gen voice product, despite having bet the farm on GCTO's 21CN design which was supposed to move the entire legacy voice network on to the new shiny IP network over 5 years ago.
They have no mobile network, having sold the license, not just for the cash but also a massive lack of foresight at the executive level.
Lets not forget, BT made promises to the financial markets that they would deliver on 21CN, and these promised filter down to the customers, who have been woefully delivered to.
There is still NO VOIP solution over fiber approved at BT, something that you have been able to find at most other national carriers for the last 5 years, NTT, Comcast, etc.
The lack of fiber in the UK is not just a cost or regulation issue, it is also down to massive failure from the national carrier who still spending and supporting a legacy network as they continue the internal management landgrab battles at the expense of the customers.
Late, Lame and Laughable....
Another classic BT product 'innovation'. 5 years to late to be interesting, and less than half the service you need to really make it useful.
Exactly who is the target audience for this? Who has a mobile and it is not now their primary phone? If you have a minutes plan then it's not in your interest not to use all the minutes you have paid for, and if you have an unlimited plan then why do you care.
But what about 0800 etc numbers you cry. What about them........ ? The EU is bring the pricing for these over mobile to the same as landline, Ofcom is well underway with sorting this.
Who is going to call you on it? No one. For two reasons, we wish to call the person not the premise and if they have a mobile this is the default number to call them on....and dial in does not work anyway for this, which will be defended by BT with their usual quality assurance argument.
Yes it will likely save you some pennys if you are abroad, but this is hardly reason to keep your landline as well as your mobile at the every increasing line rental cost. Unless of course you either have no choice but to take a copper based broadband product with the still compulsory WLR element, which is frankly a scam that BT still lobbies Ofcom to protect.....
47% of people can, according to Romney
some many people with so much time. lol
yeah that will make for an interesting experience online....
no sleep? Umm, go home
last thing anyone needs are exhausted people working on problems..... Not reassuring..
you mean legacy enterprise apps
my company does not have a single installable enterprise app for 30k+ users, unless you work on some bespoke area, say compiling code. It's all web based.
So which magic enterprise area does MS think they are targeting which iPad can't get to?
In a BT video interview a few months back they actually suggested everyone needs to their normal work places, as their domestic bandwidth will be limited during the Olympics. Good to see that after 5 years of planning they have added the capacity needed. Naturally this video has been deleted, but I was fortunate enough to watch the web-broadcast live.
Re: "engineers had to be re-skilled".....Terry has to learn new tricks, "down rover down"
You bring up some good points, but I am quite aware as to how networks and services work and especially how to emulate them over fiber. it is not that difficult to either blow or splice fibre, it hardly requires highly-skilled people, just some skilled people with the right equipment. Having done this for real myself at SPs I can tell you it's not rocket science.
Having developed little to no program over the last 20 years to stop 'polishing the copper' and to begin to migrate services over to fiber is a massive failure from BT, but hardly a surprise when you look at the expensive mess of 21CN. Exactly where is the digital voice migration BT promised the market would have happened by now? Although I would agree its to late to bother as it will never pay back, landline decline / move to mobile etc. However to build a replacement network based on the idea of a dying product (against mobile) was obvious to most people as a failure.
Other countries carriers have done FTTP, and have detailed plans for other legacy tdm/circuit services and have consulted the regulator to wind down such regulated products.
There is no copper in my place and my alarm system works just fine using an ATA.....
"engineers had to be re-skilled".....Terry has to learn new tricks, "down rover down"
First of all it's not BT Openreach, it' "OpenReach a BT group company". They get very annoyed being called BT Openreach....lol
It's hardly new technology and to BT's credit they actually invented Air Blown Fibre in the 1980's. The fact that they are having to skill people up for something that is already 30 years old, kinda tell you how fast BT has been prepared to move in the fibre deployment.
OpenReach is still replacing damaged copper bundles with..... wait for it... copper.
Geo racial profiling?
Happened in Atlanta. Would it happen in say.. NY or Palo Alto Apple stores? Some retraining needed here.
Still totally unacceptable regardless of the location.
Re: TSA fun continues
Brilliant idea! I might just do it.
Oh perhaps as a t-shirt :)
TSA fun continues
They spent a lot of time counting the number of gadgets I had on me one time. All Apple except for my TomTom. Then followed it with some nonsense, taking me aside, about why to you need a iphone, ipod, ipad, mac and gps, oh and a small torch. 'Because they all perform different functions'... not a popular answer. Whatever dudes...
Best of all recently they wanted to see my boarding pass for the third time, just as I was walking into the body scanner. Told them it was electronic and therefore on my phone in the bag as instructed by TSA currently going through the xray machine.
That confused the dude...
Best bit was being asked for it again, as I got out of the body scanner.
It gets dumber and dumber each time we all fly...
Ohhh MS, you have done it again. FCC investigation please.
I can only conclude that MS has done this with full knowledge it will kill DNT dead by being in breach of the agreement, which is what the ad industry wants.
Frankly this deserves investigation by FCC and EU bodies.
Some people somewhere are having a drink and a good laugh at the rest of us. Bastards.....
6 months till they remove the service..
Socialist Engineers ask tax payers handout for loss making apps
How about a lottery grant? Or what about we raise the basic rate of tax to pay for some developers to wack off designing software no one actually wants....
Hang on, is that not already funded and done by our tax pounds?!!
It's called Government IT....
Enough of our money spashed up the wall already
If I wanted to display my name walking down the street I would print it on a fecking t-shirt
RFI wallets all round it seems.
Also tired of hearing that rural will be expensive.
So who do you think should pay for it? The cost of living in a major city is already astronomical, so frankly "we gave" and I see no reason for the cities to be burdened with the cost of rural broadband with what would amount to another tax.
As DJ Smiley says, it's gonna be expensive, get over it....
On another point, the 100M fund is frankly hilarious, BT's own estimates are over 12 Billion to do this country wide.
If this ends up being paid for via taxes then the new fibre infrastructure should be publicly owed and turned into a utility.
Let the balls-up begin
fix now....nuff said
Good for AA. I would have been kicked off for it and you would have been kicked off for it, so some primadona also gets kicked off for it.
It's a simple blanket rule as the airline staff are not going to be able to check out all devices from all the passengers to see how/if when they could be in transmit mode.
Yes we all know that tons of devices get left on,and so yeah, perhaps the rule is BS when it comes down to it. However today, just for flying, that is the simple rule....
Frankly he should also be arrested and fined, like the rest of us would be.
more than 50% unhappy with FB privacy settings..
So quit FB!! The dumbness continues.
Cool All BCC shows are free to rip from iPlayer then ;)
Thanks Auntie Beeb, your stuff is on the web, so that's all mine now too.
Now where is my flash grabber .......
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