Re: Salesreptiles and Marketurds
Many people do. The vendors with the most aggressive sales resources win. It is not like flash arrays are exciting and the leading vendors have magical technology.
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""Public cloud is ~2.5 * the cost for a large company when used alone"
I doubt that. It's about 2.5 times if you consider hardware only and ignore licences, power, bandwidth, cooling, rent and payroll."
You need to do the analysis instead of relying on gut feelings and doubt. The ~2.5 * figure is *all in* and can be greater if the large company really knows what they are doing. Cloud companies are in the business to make a lot of money. Many IT organizations 1) do not know how to do proper capacity planning so they under provision or severely over provision 2) cannot make it easy for their end users to get what they need in a timely manner. So for many, public cloud is worth every penny and if the primary motivation for IT decisions is saving money, more money will be lost than saved no matter what the deployment model is.
"2. You're a large company and you love OPEX over CAPEX."
If it is about money, for the large company, it is more like you love OPEX and could careless about the total cost. Public cloud is ~2.5 * the cost for a large company when used alone. The real reason is: you know how to innovate, need to move fast, and are more concerned with making money than pinching pennies.
"Not sure to whom you're referring, but yes, I am absolutely positive that some of my sources work at NetApp. As for you, if you don't work at NetApp what rational reason would you have to be so frothing? Why should I assume anything other than a fairly direct association?"
How can you not be sure who I am referring to when you wrote what I was referencing. I am not twisting your words like you are with me. Your writing has no real specifics and with the time you spent on that shit (since you like to be crass) analogy you could have gone into valuable details that help professionals. I have been a reader since the beginning of the reg and there is more and more garbage like this these days and that is why I commented and the only reason but believe what you want if you cannot accept criticism for what it is. Maybe you cannot be direct and because of this you believe everyone has ulterior motives.
"Anything else you would like to vomit on the carpet? Or are we done here?"
Sure we are done unless you have to have the last word to feel good about yourself, if that is the case by all means respond and I will not say another word.
"Your customers are whiners? The people trying to sell your stuff are whiners? I'm glad to see you hold the opinions of the individuals and corporations who purchase NetApp's products in such high regard.
I'll be sure to link them to this post with your views on the subject.
But thanks for proving my point so spectacularly."
You think I work or have worked for NetApp because I pointed out your whining (and only you)? Hope you do not lie and credit my personal views on your whining to NetApp. Why can't you just do your job and go into the specific details of how storage requirements are changing and where specific NetApp portfolio (not my) gaps exist?
"The honest truth? I wrote the article because of the number of NetApp people stampeding around conferences, forums, Twitter, comments sections and literally everything else claiming overwhleming superiority of NetApp over all things. Now, that's fine and good when they can back it up, but it really did not line up at all with what everyone who was not from NetApp were saying...and quite frankly what many who worked inside NetApp were saying behind closed doors."
Why is this your motivation and not what is really going on in the data center? Are you sure all of those people work at NetApp? Not saying they do not but you think I do when I do not. Clearly NetApp is not superior over all things and any sane person knows this, but you had to write a passive aggressive article under the guise of analysis?
Your article is whining and that is why it appears to some folks as NetApp bashing. You state NetApp is no longer relevant but you do not point out why with any substance by giving real examples (your analogy is weak), nor do you detail how any storage company can or will address the emerging challenges or opportunities that you have failed to point out. I guess whining, speculation, and bashing is how the reg is currently relevant, good job because you have us posting, and I agree you bash everyone and I am happy to see you admit this article is bashing.
"We might expect other enterprise array suppliers with SSD storage tiers announced or coming, such as 3PAR, Dell, Fujitsu, Hitachi Data Systems, HP, IBM, NetApp, Oracle/Sun, Pillar and Xiotech, to all follow Compellent and EMC's lead and introduce their own automated data movement across storage tiers between now and the end of next year."
Sun and NetApp already have a variation of this functionality with Amber Road and PAM.