605 posts • joined Wednesday 26th August 2009 12:38 GMT
Good luck to them, if it gets accepted in poorer parts of the world then it may save hundreds if not thousands of lives which can only be a good thing.
Though as mentioned in the article, I hope they can set up a hire / purchase deal because although $10 is not much to us it is to some people.
Re: Next up...
I just repaired a Toshiba laptop that had facial recognition unlock on it.
That laptop is at least a several years old (did not catch the model sorry) that I know of.
Not sure if it was as old as 2008 though.
Re: Statistics, Damn Statistics and That Graph
Why would you want to scale the chart logarithmically for such a simple chart?
Even if you did log it, the last 2 data points on the LTO plot are the same value. Surely a logarithmic scale would level out too?
I don't have the exact values to enter into a chart though so they could be wildly different I suppose which of course a logarithmic plot would reveal either an up or down trend.
Darn now I agree, give us a logarithmic chart.
My 3 little ones would have that unwrapped in a second and placed in their spider hotel (the spiders never stay for long, something to do with the little ones squeezing their abdomen I presume). And yes their spider hotel has had Steatoda nobilis in it a lot as we have had it down south here for many many years.
I am sure they would befriend this mutant too.
Re: While I'm all for astronomical science...
It is important, it is not often you get to see a bright comet in the sky.
It has had my 6 and 4 year old (and even my 2 year old though see does not really have a clue) sons excited about seeing it in the sky. Getting the telescope out and even more interested in science and the universe.
If you don't like the mainstream media reporting, turn it off don't watch it you have that choice.
I have vague recollections oh Halleys comet when I was little and I have been interested in science and space ever since. They may not answer everything but they help with an awful lot of questions and they encourage more participation especially in the young.
I was looking forward to sitting out in the cold with my kids looking at the stars, moon, planets and a comet. We only do it a few times a year when we get the telescope out but they enjoy it every time (without the comet).
I hope what has survived as ISON still gives us a reasonable chance to watch it.
Put your staffers out, put your staffers in...
in out, in out shake them all about.
You do the hokey cokey,
And you turn your staff around.
That's what it's all about!
Came on to say the same thing, I can knit, my Grat Gran taught me how when I was very young. No where on that letter do I see implication that it is a female doing the knitting.
Sexism = bad
People inferring sexism where there is none = worse
3 years! Come on.
Either fine them, let them get away with (and be ready for the fallout), or just tell them what they have to do (and enforce it) and stop waiting for them to do the right thing (yea right, the right thing for them).
No wonder people are loosing faith in government when they cannot make a simple decision.
Re: Don't be fooled...
I think you missed the Anon check box :)
He's not there any more. Did you only watch the first half of the film?
You got up-voted because I liked it but should it not be ISOFF?
Re: Title is too long
Addresses for these sites could be made available in dark net chat rooms without having to go through search engines. It's only going to make things difficult for the most technologically ilteriate.
Why make the addresses available in dark net chat rooms? Why not put the address on the dark net? Seems silly to put a site where everyone can see it and then advertise elsewhere. If your advertising elsewhere, display elsewhere to help avoid detection.
How the hell did that win? Are their taste buds broken?
Sorry but I am stuck with that at work everyday and it is awful stuff perhaps the local fountain water makes all the difference?
I have only had a couple of occasions to have Twinings English Breakfast but that would get my vote. Best I have tasted thus far (but too expensive for me to drink all the time). Though I have not tried several on your list.
No it does not stop the wider problem. But that has always been there and the authorities job to search it out.
What it does help with is the casual find of this material. That let's be honest, if it's on the public internet is going to be a lot easier to tackle than the "dark" internet.
Re: Title is too long
Do you really believe it is hard for the search engines to track what is being used to search for these images/content? They don't even need to work out what the terms are. I am sure all the child protection agencies around the world can give them plenty of examples.
If you do, can you please explain how they can track you for advertising without needing this A.I.?
They may not get everything, but if the paedophiles swap to saying cucumber instead of <INSERT APPROPRIATE SICK TERM HERE> then they are not going to be finding the content they want very quickly.
Yes it only gets the easy fish as who really would put this on the public internet. But it helps.
Re: The first option should ......
Oh lots of replies, so many to reply too.
I'll start with these...
@Eradicate all BB entrants
"When was it required by law that to have children you have to be technologically literate enough to set this software* up correctly?"
Since 1989, as I mentioned the Childrens Act. The section regarding parental responsibility. Succinctly summed up as:
"Parental Responsibility is defined by the Children Act 1989 as being all the rights, duties, powers and responsibility which a parent of a child has in relation to the child and his or her property. It includes rights and duties with regard to education, choice of religion, administration of a child’s property and choice of residence."
Again, I ask in there where there is a need for a parent to be technologically literate. education tick, child sent to school. Religion tick, residence tick.
According to you there is no need for child protection agencies at all. Which I could go on all the way to asking why you need protection from the Police or Army. That is a wider philosophical debate but, still related.
As for software, most routers have the ability to block either sites by address or by keyword. A google search will tell you that.
You did not even read my comments. A lot do not have this option with routers provided by the ISP which the ISP makes hard to change. You claim to be able to use Google. Use it to look up changing this on those routers.
As a child I did many things I shouldn't have, but for the part of my childhood I had parents they didn't expect the government to inflict blanket measures affecting all of society because of something I did. My brother and I once found an adult magazine under a hedge when I was about 6 and I certainly don't remember all adult magazines being removed from sale because of that.
Right now put that in the correct context. Imagine that there were porn mags under every hedge and all you had to do was find them. Now looking in every hedge is not so hard is it? Now tell me how, without a central system this would be stopped without mandating that all mags be governed in some way (and by the way, they are governed by law).
Education before legislation
I bring you back again to your self admission of doing things you knew you shouldn't. It seems that education worked well on you?
No, but they were probably smart enough to ask questions before letting me have access to anything that might have unpleasant consequences. No BB guns for example.
And the parent that says "no porn sites" to the child using the Internet that is not listened to? Or is it no Internet? Also known as no learning about modern life till you are at least 18? Again if you say the parent should be watching 100% of the time, I ask if your parents were at your shoulder 100% of the time when you were growing up?
As an aside why should children even be allowed access to smartphones at all if such a large chunk of the inappropriate material is being generated by them? Ditto laptops with webcams.
Why? really? Erm let me see (btw I answered this in my original post) Because a large chunk of important (for learning and other things) stuff that is NOT inappropriate material is being generated by them.
Every single report on child safety I've seen on the TV shows the child with the PC in their bedroom. It's amazing quite frankly that parents continue to do this and then feign confusion when something terrible happens to their kid.
Oh it's on TV every parent must be doing it, everything on TV is real isn't it? I think you will find that most don't until the child is deemed responsible enough. And yes as with everything in life, there will be parents that are irresponsible. I think you will find this is a lot less than the propaganda the media portray.
Actually device level protection is probably better if the aim is to protect the child in question. Imagine your child taking their laptop to somewhere where the connection isn't filtered for example. Of course setting up each device might take a few minutes each time, but unless you're a gadget junkie I find it difficult to believe that it will really take that much time or effort.
It does not take much time and effort, but the time and effort is easily circumvented. And you have also just argued what I have been saying and you have been railing against. A parent cannot be there 100% of the time. This helps and turning it off is simple. It helps against the parents that do not protect their children and so not see that they need it as well as those that with their already busy lives, occasionally forget something.
@ P Lee
You've missed the point.
This is about trialling network level filtering for commercial reasons in a manner which won't immediately provoke outrage.
The continued existence of most of the mass media aimed at children on TV and on the radio (without technological filters), is proof these measures are not what they purport to be.
I see where you are coming from and yes I hope it does not go this far and that yes this can be a dangerous line to cross. I suppose a compromise would be that if these filters came in, they are opt in not opt out (including this current one). This would have the effect of having the filters easily available for those that want them but leaving those without the need unaffected.
So where can I put my new fridge before turning it on?
Really? You answered your own question, it is a New fridge. Therefore you put it in your old fridge!
Re: The first option should ......
Your going to charge your time? At what cost? Who decides?
To be honest most of us are not as you put it "too stupid to monitor their own kids" and we do monitor them. I assume as a child you never did anything wrong, nor did you do something your parents did not ask you to do?
On that note I also assume you had at least one parent hovering over your shoulder until you were at least 16, never letting you out of sight for any reason what-so-ever and controlling everything you did?
No? That's right, you were given freedom to do what every child has to do... grow up. But you carry on complaining how a 3 second drain on your time means you need to label everyone with children irresponsible.
If you can't be bothered to put in place software or rules to protect your children on the net you shouldn't have had them.
When was it required by law that to have children you have to be technologically literate enough to set this software* up correctly?
* Software for which device? everyone that wants to bring a piece of technology into your home? Big sign at the gate, "install this before entering"? See below for more.
I agree that it should not be needed but we now live in a world where it is trivial for any device to be connected (do smart TVs have filters?). If your asking everyone to set up a proxy then your having a laugh a lot of people are not that technically literate. Set up DNS via another provider that can filter, I hear you say. Well many ISPs do not let their users change hardware let alone DNS and changing that on every individual device that can / might enter your home is very disingenuous.
When I first heard of this, I was appalled (I want the net to be free and open to all) but I think that this is a good alternative. You can set the level of filtering and hey you can even turn it off, here have your 1p for the time it took you to click that button, it seems so precious to you.
Re: All suspects are guilty. Otherwise they wouldn't be suspects.
You could also say that people have a choice of operating system on their PC (Yes they chose to buy the PC with Windows on it, alternatives are there for those that do not want it, as there has always been).
All you have to do is install it. Same as purposefully going to a different search provider.
Yes Microsoft were using their influence back in the day, and yes they were rightly trodden on. Same is now happening with Google. Alternatives are there yes but your comparison to OSs is dis-ingenious seeing as there have always been alternative OSs too.
Re: But faster than light time becomes imaginary
Another fun problem is that you do not want to go at exactly the speed of light because time stops so you will get stuck there until the end of the universe
Erm, time doe not stop no matter what speed you go. For you, in your reference frame time is the same but the observed universe appears to have stopped, surely?
Although if your observing anything external while travelling at c then your eyes are really good.
That's great but more effort needed
Great, they have been suitably put on the naughty step for this. Now can the Ad watchdog get on to ALL (not just BT) Ads and get them to do away with small/fine print and make them say it loud and clear.
If they have to use small print they are being fraudulent in their claims (I have yet to see an Ad that this does not apply to) or at the very least telling fibs.
Who you calling...
A numpty? Oh... Yes I will get it.
(was not sure on the Troll or Coat icon. decided on the later.)
Chickens are yummy, they have managed to get the humans to continue their propagation for, well as far as I can see, forever.
Now if there was a big T-Rex still running around we would all have clubs and spears (perhaps a machine gun is more appropriate) in our hands trying to make them extinct.
Perhaps evolution thought, I like the T-Rex lets keep him alive by making him taste good*. But! lets have some fun along the way.
* Yes I know chickens may** not be directly
devolved from T-Rex.
** Birds came from dinosaurs, there may still be heritage there!
Re: Stupidly expensive head office.
If they went elsewhere in the UK they simply wouldn't be able to engage as effectively with the people they need.
Erm, you have heard of this thing called the Internet (you must have, you are
engaging lecturing us using it) and phones? Also trains! trains! trains! (big in the news at the moment, you might have heard of them too,) if you really absolutely must have a face to face.
There is no need to be in this magical area in London.
Re: Stupidly expensive head office.
So they can get lattes with other people that think London is the only place in the UK?
Re: "Most" enterprises "want" hybrid cloud??
The only time I would advocate running hyper-v under windows is with an Enterprise version to leverage the extra licences that come with said enterprise version as it works out cheaper*. And then only with the core version.
This was the case with a Windows 2008 R2 install we have here. I have not investigated if this is still true in 2012 because well we won't be upgrading it for a while.
* Your mileage may vary, investigate your own options thoroughly.
Re: I won't be upgrading - in fact, I'm building 6 new PCs with XP x64 on them.
You still did not reply to any points I raised. And yes I read the title, again why are you running it over 7 x64? It seems like you know enough to build your own systems so should be able to do the same to 7.
If you leave it in a default configuration it can run slow on older hardware. Again it seems to me your not upgrading for the sake of it. And no an employer supplied notebook is not experience. I assume you are not part of the it dept from that comment and do not have access to reconfigure the build and thus have not really tried 7.
thanks for posting your hardware. Always interesting to see what people are using. Pointless mind.
Re: Oh come on...
Because most people don't work in IT and most people don't want to relearn how to do the tasks they could already do.
Yet everyone advocates a move to Linux instead. What do you think they would have to do then? Let alone the amount of times certain distros changing interfaces more often than I have hot dinners.
Have you any idea how I'm going to miss patch Tuesday?
I am confused. Are you not going to patch your non-windows servers, just patch them on a different day or just waste a silly amount of time testing and updating as soon as a patch is released for each distro, application and module?
Re: Not as trivial as it looks
Why would reflections be a problem? We have had systems to deal with these for years. Wi-fi deals with reflections fine why would this be any different?
That is for one of the two packages they offer. To get all the movies you need both. Hence the £16 - £18.
How to boost profits!
First they could not list the same product as many times as they possibly can. All with the same if maybe slightly different descriptions and prices but the same product. Then keep your products up to date and in stock and priced competitively.
I find myself more and more getting the credit card out than writing a PO because of the mess the business is in. It is usually less hassle and cheaper. Hell even my local small reseller is cheaper and they don't have the bulk buying might that insight should have.
I cannot remember the last quote they provided that was competitive enough for me to use them.
I agree though sky movies is not that much. It is still way more expensive than it needs to be.
What we need is pay for what you want not all the other bundled crap. When they realise people will give money for that then we will have a better system.
Re: Get Sky For only half the price of BT***
Don't forget, every year.
"We have put this service up by £x.xx because we know you want more useless crap (not) and we have also put this service up by £x.xx because we just want MORE PROFIT!!!!"
6 Years? WTH?
Okay, so they have been creating this for 6 years and utterly failed to create an android version that would net them a lot more sales.
What were they thinking?
They look interesting but I could find no details on how the cars are actually controlled. Do they drive themselves and you just decide when to fire? Pausing the video on their website at 0:38 reveals the app with what looks like a speed slider, your energy levels and buttons to press to use your abilities.
Does this mean you just watch it drive round and when (hopefully) it manoeuvres into the right place you press the required button? If so this is worse than a video game where you would actually have control.
Re: 100% buzzword compliant
Employees with different mobile devices, versions, and operating systems are no match for SkyGiraffe
Oh yea? I raise you some old Nokia and Sony Erricsson phones. I bet there are plenty more.
Re: I won't be upgrading - in fact, I'm building 6 new PCs with XP x64 on them.
Your loosing productivity by going to Windows 7? I am first going to assume you have tried it, but please explain to me how changing to Windows 7 would decrease your productivity?
If you have applications that only work on Windows XP then, well this has been coming for many years and you were warned. If it is because you still only have an old P3 or P4 machine then it is not the OS limiting your productivity. it is your choices.
Then there is always linux, there are plenty that will run the old hardware well (I have 7 on an old celeron laptop btw).
From what I can see, and please correct me if I am wrong but your comment seems like that of a person not doing something just for the sake of not doing something thinking it proves anything.
Virtually all of Royal Mail's staff applied to be allocated shares in the company.
I don't get why all the Press and advisers keep harking on about this. It is free money to the employees. It is not like they have staked their lives on it they had no choice.
May as well make a bit of cash out of it, it's not like they had to pay for them.
Re: News from the trenches
Only if I choose to buy it from you, which obviously I wouldn't. There is no such leverage where I can grow my own or buy on the open market. Funnily enough, those are both options for the rural broadband requestors - do it yourselves, or be prepared to pay what a commercial provider demands.
Your talking about subsidies! You do realise, don't you that Farmers are subsidised, quite a lot. If you want subsidies removed on Broadband roll-out (a necessary part of life due to movement of Gov services) then surely you advocate removing the subsidies from the Farms (you don't like paying for things remember,) you know they only produce your food stocks right another necessary service, quite and old one at that? Your open market is now looking rather like an open market still. But quite an expensive one.
And please, please show me in which room in your town hose or garden you are keeping all the required animals for your (I assume normal) diet?
You may be able to grow food for yourself and live on some Carrots and onions but your asking for the whole of the town to do that? I ask you again, where in the town are you finding the space to produce all this?
No that's right once again you are not looking beyond your own wallet.
Re: News from the trenches
As somebody living in a well served urban area paying a commercial operator (VM), I can't see how I am helped in any way by subbing your broadband.
Okay fine fine we will sub it ourselves. You may find your pint of Milk, Loaf of Bread and other such consumables has just gone up 3000%. But yes we in the Country will sub it ourselves.
Probable outcomes are a very marginal decline in some urban property values, and rising pricing and more development in rural areas as reluctant townies find they suddenly can live in nice rural areas and still be connected.
Many houses in the Country are owned by uppity (they are not all like this) Townies. You really think this will change anything?
Re: Peak Register
OS design in Form Factor? Really? I have to disagree.
Although you other sentiments I can mostly agree with. Apple did not invent idea of a tablet. Microsoft did that. But Apple turned it into something more practical for the mass market.
Just please keep the OS out of form factor. A form factor can have any software (if the manufacturers would let you.)
I think you'll find that most of the Internet is okay as it is. I think you meant to say, the world wide web get worse and worse.
Re: Wow. There goes a large chunk of my future,
Although Elite appeals to me for nostalga, I am afraid my money has gone towards Star Citizen. Now well on it's way to being the first AAA game to be built without backing from the big guys. Currently sitting on a $22 Million, at $23M it becomes fully funded.
Roberts has made some great space games and the way Star Citizen is shaping up, it's where I want to be. Oh and Oculus Rift support has been announced for ages. Get with it Reg (a search turned up no mention of it on the reg).
As they are releasing parts as they go (it is funded by the people so Chris Roberts wants early access for all funders, it also helps test), I think Oculus support is due sometime in December for the currently playable hanger module.
I sound like an advert but the more people that see it the better and more people in the universe. Really take a look if you like space games. They are back.
The rest of the world uses Celsius, and strictly speaking, as this is a science article, Kelvin should be used.
You are on El Reg Hilton is the correct usage. Although I agree that Kelvin should be added also, perhaps in brackets!
It's not a paid for article. It is a demonstration. You see the feed? Yes? There is a person sat there demonstrating how to use it. And yes I am finding it useful, although I have to do some work things now so will watch more on the download at a later date.
Please crawl back under your rock.
Re: The elephant in the room @ AC 08:18
The PC is no longer needed for gaming. A PS4 does a better job with less hassle.
Really, your going to trot this out? A PS4 IS a PC. Have you even looked at the "consoles" of today. Just an underpowered PC (especially when it come to gaming). The "new" consoles do not even beat hardware that a real gamer has let alone struggling to beat old hardware like mine.
The PC is no longer needed for content consumption. A Nexus7/Nexus10/£59 Asda tablet does a better job with less hassle.
I totally agree, these devices were made with consumption in mind. The ease of use and mobility makes casual consumption much better on these devices. And as that is what most people do this and the fact that PCs from years ago are still powerful enough is why sales are falling. No need to replace unless your a gamer (or Content Creation etc.).
If people are resisting upgrading because of Windows 8 then more fool them. It runs better than 7. Although I personally like the Metro interface (it needs some polish in certain areas) MS should have released 8 and given people the option to choose their interface.
Reply to my reply before the pedants arrive. That should be Degrees Hilton. Not Degree Hiltons.
Is there a El Reg unit for temperature?
That would be 162.8889 Degree Hiltons.
Please make sure to Bookmark El Reg's Standards Converter.
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