552 posts • joined 21 Aug 2009
I see they're competing with BlackBerry to see who can lose market share fastest and this is their trump card clearly. Nokia had an early start then HTC and BlackBerry threw their chips in but Samsung have just pulled out an incredible hand that has the potential to beat all others. After this valuable 'feature' is added I predict their next innovation will involve the phone only working with pre-approved carriers in select countries. Those networks will, of course, be the highest priced and getting some lovely little benefits from Samsung.
Region locking a phone? This really is a crazy time to be living in isn't it? Companies dodging tax all over to keep as much money as possible and at the same time using any trick they can to charge as much as they can. Burning the candle at both ends there Samsung. Great for your cash piles but not so much if you want to stay in business.
What a load..
I like how they say Samsung's version of Android until they're really slagging off the UI at which point it just becomes Android. They picked the company with the most bloated and disliked overlay of all Android manufacturers but judge all of Android based on it. Lovely and impartial! I especially like how they show the two versions of iOS but you still only get the Samsung version of Android.
Surely for a fair test they should have gone with a Nexus device which, while not being market leader, is the best example of what Android is in its base form. I guess that's the point though isn't it? The whole thing is skewed in favour of iOS because Apple give you basics then expect you to pay for the rest via the app store.
I can hardly wait for slimmer phones!
"and allow for slimmer devices"
I put it to an HTC person before that slimmer phones that sacrifice battery life are not wanted and I'd rather have a slightly more bulky (10mm is bulky? I own a Nokia 5110!) device if it meant even 33% more battery life. The response I got was that the market wants slimmer devices and they'd be crazy to go against that. That was even after I'd pointed out the Motorola RAZR MAXX which didn't add huge bulk. Until the manufacturers realise there is a market for more 'chunky' devices with better battery we're stuck with this obsession. It makes me sigh greatly when the only real solution is, mostly, a battery case that ends up turning a <10mm phone into 25mm or more phone.
Re: Nothing changes
I often wonder what would have happened if the 286 had lost out to the 68k processors. Would we now all be using computers with Motorola CPUs based loosely around the original 68k series or would PowerPCs be leading the charge with Intel playing the role of AMD?
Horror stories about download issues
If only there was some way they could know roughly how many people would want to download a new update such as previous years or adding extra capacity but then they'd need to know the date this groundbreaking software was being released....
Phablet is wrong
Forget Phablet anyway. If you're going to say it's a mix of both then surely it should be Phonblet.
Wanted: Android install for Windows Phones
I really want to be able to install Android on some WIndows Phone hardware but any time it's mentioned on mod sites nobody is interested. As much as I like Android I also have an HTC 8X and it's a gorgeous piece of hardware unfortunately MS are intent on releasing updates and new features so it's relegated to backup phone. Why not just get an Android phone? I have Android phones (HTC One X and Nexus 4) but I want to use it on the 8X / Lumia 925 etc.
Re: Underpowered hardware doesn't mean the OS is shit....
I was agreeing with you up to the point where you lost all credibility by calling Android shit. How is it shit? You've had a bad experience therefore it is shit? Sorry but while that is going to be your opinion based on your experience it doesn't mean that it is shit in general.
If you had an iPhone or whatever-it-is-you-like-phone and had a bad experience would you then call the whole system behind it shit? If so you lose all credibility for expecting too much. If you wouldn't then you lose credibility by playing favourites.
Swing and a miss ... of the point
" and it's bound to disappoint anyone who isn't upgrading from an even lower-end feature phone."
I may be mistaken but I thought the point of this is as a starting point for DEVELOPERS and not a product for end users. The specs aren't super high because the project is just starting out as shown by the 1.0 release and the rough edges experienced. Give it time to develop and better hardware will come as well as better performance. From what has been described in this 'review' it seems hard to be much worse but that doesn't mean it will always be this way.
Re: Sony is making the best kit now
As much as that may be a problem I highly doubt that petition warrants much attention from Sony due to it looking like it was written by an illiterate 5-year-old.
I've tried to see the case for having split-screen apps and I just can't see it. On x86 you can use the normal Windows 7+ screen snapping as well as resize the windows to your choices. On ARM you .... can't run desktop apps so you're stuck with apps and this is the only way to run two apps....... ah now I see the point! Try to make the ARM experience a little closer to the x86 one and hope that users will accept it.
Aside from price concerns this is the single biggest reason to go for x86 over ARM. It seems not even Microsoft have a clue what ARM / RT is best at since their ads focused on some shity High School Musical inspired ad with lots of dancing and showcasing a stand that clicks.
Yay more ads....
I'm sure this will mean a massive increase in the already ever increasing ads I see. No wonder they took such drastic actions against 3rd-party clients - those clients don't show ads. Unfortunately they don't do push notifications either so you're left with a choice of one, the other, or a mix of both and none of those choices are particularly nice.
Re: Biggest change
Shame you can't change the default on Windows Phone...
Great article! How much were you paid exactly for this pro-Apple love letter?
"but it is a significant upgrade"
"Interestingly, even given all of these features, Cupertino's stated battery life for the iPhone 5S is identical to that of the iPhone 5C."
What are you talking about, did you see something different to the rest of us? A new CPU, motion sensor, supposedly better camera and a fingerprint scanner. How does that count as significant? A new CPU should be more battery efficient (ignoring the Tegra line there), a motion sensor won't be active unless apps are using it so shouldn't cause drain by itself and a fingerprint scanner.... BEHOLD! THE GREAT INNOVATORS, APPLE!
I'm no Apple fan (I know, I hide it well) but surely it's clear to most now that they have massively lost their way. A slight upgrade and a plastic rehash of last years model aren't going to set the market alight.
"According to security research outfit Kaspersky Lab, only Android 4.3 is impervious to the Backdoor.AndroidOS.Obad.a Trojan, yet virtually no one is running that version."
Curiously the figures for people affected by that trojan also seems to be missing. Imagine that!
Re: As has recently been achieved in the United Kingdom...
If you missed it then I missed it too but knowing this clown infested government anything is possible.
With regards to mobile networks blocking crap it is nothing but money gathering for them. I had a content lock on with Vodafone and the only way to remove it was to pay £1 to which hey say "but we give you £2 credit for that". The worst part of that is that my content lock somehow came back and even though they admitted it had been removed before the only option available was for me to pay the same £1 before being told once again, unhelpfully, that "we'll give you £2 credit". I left Vodafone at the end of the contract for other reasons but the fact that shit like that goes on made me want to avoid them in the future.
Re: "It is no surprise therefore that our report reveals a rise in remote data wipes"
I'd be surprised if their report revealed anything less than that even if that was happening. Big surprise as vendor of remote wipe software reports increased use of its own product! Up next, Microsoft reports indicate a rise in use of their products by people who purchase their products.
I hate this and it bugs me every time I see it mentioned. It isn't a law it's a prediction or an observation at best.
New products but the same problems
Ignoring the obvious one (running Windows 8 or 8.1) they're going with nVidia and Tegra again. Tegra 3 was a success in marketing because it sure didn't perform as well as they claimed in use and I won't believe anything they say about Tegra 4. When your quad-core CPU is beaten by dual-core CPUs you lose on so many levels.
This is what they've been working on in not-so-secret? A watch that has to be tethered to one of only three (currently) devices, lasts a day according to Samsung so probably half a day at best in practice and they want $299 for it. Good job there Samsung. At least it looks like your other products by being cheap, plastic and not going to win any design awards.
"codenamed "KitKat", after the iconic chocolate-covered wafer candy bar."
NO! Chocolate-covered wafer bar or KitKat. None of this candy crap!
Ballmer the comedian
"penned by Steve Ballmer that says Microsoft's partnership with Nokia has gone so well that "
Oh Steve... you sure know how to joke about your awful leadership. Next you'll be telling us that Surface was a roaring success.
HTC, RIM, Nokia
Imagine what they could come up with if all three combined. Awesome hardware, great design and um.. forget the RIM bit, just go Android with HTC and Nokia.
Favourite Win 8 'feature'
I've mentioned this before but it's such a big pointer to how confused and messed up the whole Notro / Desktop mess is and shows even MS don't know what they're doing.
I get update notifications for Windows Updates so I click to view them. It (un)helpfully takes me to Notro to view the updates and I can install from there. However, if I want to view optional updates or select which updates to install first it throws me instantly back to the Desktop Windows Update of old. Why was this ever allowed to happen? If Notro is so great why dump me straight back to the Desktop version? Why force me to even view the Notro version if it doesn't have the same, or better, functionality? What purpose does it serve other than to add more confusion and ".... why?" moments to your day?
For anyone that has unfortunately installed Win 8 to try and are now stuck with it through reluctance to reinstall and wanting a fast way to shut down you can easily make a shortcut to do so or the often forgotten clicking your desktop then using Alt-F4 of old. I'm not saying you're doing anything wrong by wanting these options as others have I'm just offering ways to do it that work.
Roaming fees much lower, great ...
The biggest issue I have with the whole mess is that all this is pointless to most people unless they spend most of their time overseas. Roaming fees are now far cheaper than calling outside your allowance at home. Imagine my surprise when I saw I was paying close to 40p per minute one month, the only month I've ever gone outside my allowance.
This brings me to my question about this madness. How the hell does it now cost far less to call someone in the UK from outside the UK than it does to call them while here and why has this been allowed to happen?!
Re: Nexus 4 now £159/£199
Both represent fantastic value for money. I often look at those demanding (for their use) massive storage and / or an SD card slot and wonder why they need so much but in the case of the Nexus 4 I would advise strongly going for the 16GB version only. I have the 8GB version and rarely use it for music yet with less than 1GB of music, my normal apps and photos taken I have very little space left.
Advertising it as 8GB would be fine if it came with 8GB usable but it doesn't. You will never have 8GB or even 7.6GB~ once you take into account what the system uses on its own. Realistically you have around 5GB for all your storage needs and even with cloud storage that will go far faster than you may think. Still, at £159 the phone cannot be beaten on value and I thought it was a great deal at £249!
Nexus 4 - made of super slippery material!
I remember a commenter on here a while back that made a fantastic note to congratulate LG on creating a phone made of a material capable of slipping on any surface. It still amazes me quite how able it is to slide on any surface you can throw it at (sic).
Re: it’s unclear whether a version of Firefox is coming for ARM
This is why Microsoft get such a rough ride and they deserve it. They chastise Google for doing similar to this with their YouTube APIs when they've been doing this for years in various ways with this just being the latest.
"Let us have the APIs or we'll say it's all your fault, evil Google!"
"You want better API access to build a proper Firefox for ARM / RT? HAHAHA! No!"
Area 51? Pah!
It's just a small research outpost. Everyone knows the real deal is deep inside Cheyenne Mountain.
"The Oracle was asked what he thought of Jobs, to which he replied: "He was brilliant, he was our Edison,"
He was "our Edison"? That explains all the idea stealing and trying to make competitors products look bad in any way possible.
"People aren’t stupid.
BB guns, knives on sticks, and other tools."
Are you sure about the first statement?
Re: Good to know
You don't. I have a phone with a 1GHz CPU and 768MB RAM that runs smoothly with Android 4 on it. I have a dual-core phone that runs smoother than a quad-core phone (Tegra 3 really is awful...) but I won't deny that Android had laggy performance for a long time. That has been rectified now and not just with better hardware.
On topic I see that Microsoft have failed to grasp the obvious yet again. Updates are coming along far too slowly and far too infrequently for them to make any gains. I almost feel sorry for Nokia because no matter what hardware they manage to produce they're stuck relying on Microsoft to do their part.
I'd like to think that someone so obnoxious would already make you avoid them long before the public can get their hands on Glass.
Glasses wearing user app
How about an app that takes the video feed from the camera and, taking into account a person's prescription, adjusts it so that they only appear to be wearing Google Glass? That way they get an enhanced display that also corrects vision. This would require a version that can overlay a full view instead of the small menu the current Glass uses but I know I'd be willing to pay for such a thing and it would be a very legitimate use. No video would be stored locally as it would just be fed to the display like a graphics card to a monitor. Perhaps I'm looking to a future version due to resolution and capabilities along with battery life implications but it would appeal to me more than it puts me off for privacy issues. Why? I'd be in control of when I wear it just as I am with glasses.
Tegra 3 was awesome... really..
Seeing how poorly the Tegra 3 chip performed compared to the Qualcomm S4 and more so the S4 Pro I wonder how many will believe any of the Tegra 4 spiel. I own an HTC One X which comes stuck with the Tegra 3 and while it may be decent for gaming the idea behind it never held much weight. The low powered core never seemed to do much of the low powered stuff despite that being its purpose for existing and the four main cores were only as powerful as a dual-core S4 device.
What a match made in hell this is for RT. First you have the underperforming, app lacking RT and then you couple it with an already aging chipset in Tegra 3 that can't perform as well as it was supposed to, ever. How can you rectify that? I know! Let's use...... Tegra 4 for more of the same but at least we can add Outlook now!
It's terrifying that people in such high powered jobs believe this to the point they'll risk a repeat of an almost $1 billion loss without learning anything.
Samsung and only Africa?
How long before the apk is uploaded and made available online for others and the BBM service falls over from "unprecedented demand" or something similar? I'll give it a day or two, a week tops.
MS failing themselves but also partners
The more they drag their feet with updates and new features the harder it gets for companies like Nokia, HTC, Samsung etc to get any value and sales from WinPho. I own an HTC 8X and it's a great phone but I've not seen a single update that added anything worthwhile. Looking at the Nokia Lumia 1020 I would really love to own that phone too but there is no point. The camera is very, very impressive but the OS is still the same stagnating mess it was when they launched it to much..... er..... moderate fanfare last year.
MS are still trying to run WinPho the same as they do other products like Windows and XBox with a few releases over a long period of time but that won't work here as their competitors are moving at a far faster pace. MS aren't just behind they're being left further and further behind all the time. When is the next WinPho update, does anybody know? Does anyone have any clue what will be included apart from a few tweaks and bug fixes? It's hard to care about something when the people behind it don't seem to give a shit.
Lots of early adopters got burned with WP7 devices and any that took a gamble by going to WP8 after that are probably thinking they made a huge mistake. MS need to wake up and either push WP8 hard or just can it. Any other course of action is just, to be blunt, fucking around with anyone that tries to support it.
MS in no rush.... only hurting themselves
It still puzzles me why they bothered pushing out WInPho 8 when they haven't bothered to do any big marketing or push out updates and / or any kind of improvements to it. There are a few main areas they need to improve on vastly (music player, multitasking, keyboard to name 3) and a lot of small tweaks they could make. Unfortunately anyone that owns a WP handset has no idea when or if these will be worked on.
It feels like MS have adopted the old Nokia stance on updates where you never knew if your phone was getting an update and even if you did have an update available it rarely did anything you would care about. It also feels like MS are treating WP in general as some big experiment to see just how little effort they can put into something without it blowing up massively in their faces. It's very frustrating to see especially when WP is rather good in general use.
"free content ad network"
I still read that as "content free ad network", anyone else?
"a feature that lets you easily take photos by shaking the camera and then touching anywhere on the screen."
I would not refer to that as a feature or something that allows me to easily take a photo. Shaking the camera (phone) then touching the screen is more likely to see people dropping it.
Oh Google you shouldn't have..
A birthday treat for me? Why thank you, Google.
Re: Haha ha ha
" * I'm guessing the word eduction will be in the answer "
I'm guessing you meant education.
Re: Smacks of self congratulations
I'm with JDX on this. If it was sponsored it would be talking about the beauty of the phone, the magical screen and the roundness of the corners. Instead it talks about the technology behind the camera and how it required years of work to bring it all together without compromising on anything. I understand being jaded by years of small boosts to tech. and mistaking the genuinely pleasant surprise the author expresses but sponsored? No.
Give it to me!
I'm first and foremost a fan of technology and real innovation like this but I'm also a firm Android fan. However, I do own three Windows phones (2 run WP8) and like the simplicity at times. If it had a few things either improved vastly (keyboard, handling of multitasking) or redone completely I could see myself being stuck when it comes time for a new phone. The hardware of Android tends to be the latest in flagship models but for imaging they all lag behind things like this beauty.
I said when I first used a Windows Phone 7 / 7.5 device that it had promise and I still feel that way. However, until and unless Microsoft push updates harder it will stay as a promising OS but not for me and that is where they need to go hard or go home. It wouldn't take a lot to get my full attention from Android but they just seem uninterested and seem to treat it like a curiosity as Apple do with Apple TV.
Updates coming through too slowly
If you look at early Android the updates were pretty frequent although in fairness it needed them as it was quite basic early on. WP8 may not be as bad as that but it is still missing a lot of things that could be pulled in through updates such as a better keyboard and better multitasking. Unfortunately they're updating it as slowly as the desktop OS with big patches once a year. By the time they decide to push out an update the chances are that a manufacturer won't be updating it any more.
UC and IDS have a few things in common
Neither work properly and neither are for the benefit of those that will suffer from their ideas. This is intended as a replacement for all other benefits to be paid once a month. The chance of this going so badly that it leads to suicides and homelessness when payments are screwed up is so high yet good old IDS keeps insisting everything is fine and going as planned. That is only true if the plan is to royally screw up the whole system.
This part sums it up for me
" And the feature formerly known as "Type and Go" but now apparently called "Instant Action" is very handy: from anywhere, you can swipe up and start to type a message, for example: “sms fred” – and it will drill into your address book and drop you into the message editor."
I can swipe up on the screen then jump back to the keyboard to type "sms fred" and it'll do the search and open message editor. Perhaps I'm not seeing the big appeal of this as it doesn't seem to shorten anything over starting the messaging app and picking who you want to message. Shouldn't a shortcut save you time?
Fantastic! I can hardly wait to use this and I don't even mind the cost because unlike 3G this will bring about a revolution in the mobile market. What's that? It isn't available where I live yet? Oh that's ok I'm sure they will be soon and I can check that on a list. There's no readily available list that shows planned rollouts? Alright but surely they have decent allowances compared to 3G at least as a means to compete with cheaper and far more widely available coverage. No?! What the hell do you mean no? What is the appeal then??? I can pay more for less and with shorter battery life???
Hang on a minute I'll be an early adopter and can brag to my friends and co-workers? Why didn't you say that sooner. Here, pillage my credit card and don't forget to charge ludicrous amounts outside my allowance that make it cheaper to call the UK from abroad than if I was at home.
The issue is not that they've put in a Start screen for touch-driven devices it's that they've ONLY got that option even for non-touch devices. Had they done what nearly everyone said during the Duplo 8 Consumer Preview and stuck with both the traditional UI but added the touch UI via a toggle a huge amount of issues would have been dealt with at once. Instead they buried their heads in the sand while putting their fingers in their ears and humming loudly.
Re: Start button - Never used it anyway.
As a long time Windows user I've gotten used to a lot of shortcuts for things and there's a basic one to shutdown that still works in DuplOS 8. In Desktop click the actual desktop then ALT+F4. It's the same shutdown menu that's been around since at least Windows 2000.
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