467 posts • joined Thursday 20th August 2009 17:12 GMT
Re: Mac sales are down by a million units
"It won't be Mac or Chromebook that challenges Windows. It'll be iOS and Android. If you consider a smartphone to be a "computer", they already outsell Windows. If you only count tablets, they'll likely outsell Windows in a few years. 2013 is already predicted to the year when tablets outsell laptops."
What is a "saturated market" and why have you never heard of one?
Re: Competition is good.
"My Atrix was effectively "end-of-life'd" by Moto only a few months after I purchased it."
Probably shouldn't purchase end of life products then. Motorola has no control over when you choose to buy a product.
"Its replacement, a HTC, is stuffed with gimmicks and bloatware that cannot be uninstalled."
Ignoring the fact that you'd obviously not doing any research before buying phones, it can be easily uninstalled if you root your phone. The "bloatware" is installed by the carrier, not by the phone manufacturer. It is not HTC's fault that the carrier YOU selected puts crap on the phone.
There is a lengthy list of apps that cannot be removed from Apple products, and further you can't even delete the icon off your home screen.
Re: Mac sales decline is the problem
Apple is losing share compared to Google. Claiming they aren't is simply moronic.
Re: Can apple buy Foxconn or some other manufacturer?
Foxconn isn't a manufacturer. They assemble things.
How do people know this little about the world and business? Scary.
Re: This is a decade that will live in history..
"Biggest load of tosh I've heard in ages. 'End of Apple'? Give me a break - I've been hearing that crap for the last 20 years. Remember how Microsoft would eventually do for Apple? And yet who's the biggest tech company in the work by market cap right now? That's right - Apple. They're worth more than Samsung, Microsoft, Google and any of the rest."
Are you retarded?
You know that Apple only exists today because Bill Gates gave them billions in free money so that Microsoft wouldn't get 100% market share and get dismantled by the government, right?
Re: I wonder..
That $1B was the retooling that has to be done every year or two. Upkeep. Startup for a single location is over $4B, yes.
Again, Apple doesn't know anything about engineering. Their business model is akin to taking legos and plugging them together. They can make some shiney castles and crap, but they have no idea how to make new bricks.
Re: This won't be related to the lawsuit
Agreed, but unfortunately since Apple has over 50% margin on their products, they won't feel much impact at all.
Re: I wonder..
Apple won't make their own chips for the same reason they don't make screens or ram or anything... because they have no technical skills at all. We saw what happened when they tried to make an antenna, imagine how bad an Apple processor would be.
The reason why the form factor of laptops and desktops hasn't changed is because they are functional. Form follows function as the great architects say.
Having keyboards where the keys have corners with rounded edges is what amounts to innovation for the PC market, because everything else is already perfect.
Someone else already mentioned it, but battery life should be what they are looking at. I'd gladly go back to the 50 lb, 3 inch thick laptops if the battery lasted a week. Should be feasible, but it won't be "stylish" and the mac retards won't be tempted to buy one.
Re: Apple treated differently than Microsoft.
"Except for the fact that apple don't operate like ms who is a software company while apple are still primarily a hardware company."
Apple is a marketing company, not a hardware company. Apple manufacturers no hardware. They even outsource and offshore the process of assembling their "products" which are manufactured by Samsung, Asus, and others.
" I used to have to buy a new mp3 player every year or so"
"My PCs at work last about 2 years before something in them dies"
Do you wear a helmet? If this is true, then you must be completely retarded.
Re: In a strange way...
"If Apple are running out of ideas, Samsung never had any to start with."
You mean like Samsung's retina display that they put into Apple products?
"It's been a while but last time I looked bigger numbers usually mean better?"
Was the purpose of this post to demonstrate that you know nothing about technology? That is all it accomplished.
Clock speed is one of the least important things in a processor, as anyone with a degree in Electrical Engineering knows.
Re: Used to love my iphone
"What was he was expecting for "revolutionary", a 6" iPhone? The whole argument is stupid."
Maybe if Apple had gone to a 4.5 before anyone else, but they've been playing catch up for a while now.
You can tell that you haven't used a Galaxy S2. Yes, if you were to try to tap away at the screen, it would be difficult. Samsung has a revolutionary entry method called Swype, which allows entry of text with a single finger, even if holding the device one handed in landscape mode.
Then again, I have pretty big hands.
/Ladies, they know what I mean.
Re: Not 5, iPhone 6!
Then the 3G was the second phone and wouldn't make any sense either.
Maybe the new one will be the 4G and the one after that will be the 4GS.
Re: I hope it's no more than 4 inches
Are you a woman or do you just have womanly hands?
Re: 4G on an iPhone? I can't wait!
"Is it so hard for you to believe some people buy iPhones because they're good pieces of kit? Why do you feel the need to tar all iPhone owners as people who would buy anything with an Apple logo?"
Because if you forget "brand $$$$" Apple products are inferior to all other products.
Re: 4G on an iPhone? I can't wait!
"This would be the same Apple that logs GPS co-ordinates 'for quality purposes' in hidden and protected files and actively tries to brick *your* device if you dare to try and take it outside the walled garden?
Yeah, much nicer and far less scary than Google."
You must remember, you don't actually own any Apple product. You have to pay for the honor to borrow it from Steve Jobs.
Re: you can say
"Who do you think Apple is playing catch-up to?"
Samsung. But since Samsung designs and produces most of Apple's hardware it is a useless effort. Thanks Samsung for designing the retina display!
"I guess some of the Android phones have bigger screens (the iPhone's screen is smaller on purpose)"
And blue screens are a design feature of Windows to encourage users to save files often and reboot regularly. You're a troll.
"and some have a few more MHz or megapixels or LTE or whatever,"
AKA Design features. The Apple car only have 3 wheels but how often do you use wheels anyway? Look at how soft this seat is! Who cares if every other car for the last five years has had four wheels?
"but these are just minor incremental improvements that I'm sure Apple will address if they feel like it in the near future. I'm not seeing anything game changing coming out of any other camp."
I lol'd. Also Apple seems to see a lot coming out of the other camp given how they've ramped up their release cycle to copy more Android features.
Re: Sony through the ages
Other than the PS3, music labels and movie studios, I can't think of a single thing Sony has an influence over. They do not have significant share in laptops, phones, tvs, mp3 players or any consumer electronics market (outside of video game consoles and I guess Bluray?). I think it is time for Sony to spin off Sony Playstation and Sony Media (music and movies) and let the hardware part of the company go bankrupt.
Re: All it takes is to be first
"The iPad WASN'T the first tablet. It was the first to combine form factor, content, hardware, software and price in a way that the public liked. Other companies are at a disadvantage from the software and content points of view so the obvious factors to compete on are price and form factor."
While you are correct about Apple not being the first tablet, you are wrong in your second statement. Apple is a marketing company and Apple was the first company to tell unintelligent people to buy a tablet. Prior to the iPad release, Asus had 17 inch tablets with quad core processors, 4 gigs of RAM, expandable hard drives, running full Windows 7. They were actually function. Apple did what it always does:
1.) Reduce specs by 10 years. They cut the quad core processor to a single core, cut the RAM from 4 gigs to 512kb, cut the hard drive from 500GB to 16GB.
2.) Cut features. Options are confusing to stupid people. Why should you be able to decide if you'd like to plug your tablet into a 1080p HDTV? That is too much responsibility for a moron. What the hell is an SD card? What is expandable memory? We'll just tell them to delete files when they run out of space on the 16GB hard drive, or buy a new one!
3.) Apply a 50% margin. Apple charges $600 for something that costs $300 to make, comprised of components they buy from their competition. All Apple does is assemble: they do not design anything past the case.
4.) Add some kind of flaw or defect in the tiny amount of design they actually do. Make the tablet overheat in sunlight and shut down. No one can see the screen in direct sun anyway. What do you think this is, a kindle? Ground the antenna to the metal case. The metal case could never come into contact with a giant resistor, like say, a person. Why would anyone hold their phone?
Re: There's the bottom, and then there's the bottom
" Never mind that they continued to make double digit revenue increases during the same time period."
Hey, I found someone who doesn't know what margin is.
Off to cry about record revenue for oil companies are we?
You know the government makes more per gallon of oil and gas than the oil companies, right?
Re: Who else has got it?
"So whilst Sire might be useless and Retina could makes for squinting hey no one else is going to copy it. Well for our sake, let's hope not."
You know that the "Retina" displays are designed and manufactured by Samsung, right?
Re: i am amazed
"Anyone who takes any advert at face value in this day and age needs their head examining. Or they should come see me. I have some excellent deals on London Bridges for them :)"
I don't generally bother with people who can't speak English, but...
Any advert that cannot be taken at face value is illegal and grounds for a lawsuit.
Agreed. No crime here.
Re: What was that fat cable for?
"Fair point and well spotted. I assume from the bottom we have a power cable and a video cable, but what is the third cable at the top for?
Is this the future that MS sees for tablets?"
I see the rabid Microsoft haters are out in full force today. Obviously Microsoft doesn't expect you'll only use your tablet with three cables plugged into it. Third cable is likely for audio. While HDMI carries sound for TVs, it doesn't as often for PCs. We'll see tablet docks from people other than HP and ASUS pretty soon. It is a shame that Apple has no innovation or creative thinking with these things.
Re: If you choose to ignore ...
Built to run on multiple platforms. When Linus sat down to start work on Linux did he say "hmm I want this to run on tablets too?" or has Linux been adapted after the fact to run on more platforms? Even iOS was originally developed only for the iPhone, later copied to the bigger iPhone (iPad) and from what I understand it is somehow merged now with the Mac OS?
"You are an intelligent human being. You can tell the difference between a touch of indigestion and something potentially more serious."
Intelligent human being may be a little much. They did buy an Apple product with a 50% margin after all.
Your point is valid though. Are people so lazy that they would really ask Siri such things?
"Siri I need to poo"
"Then go the bathroom you idiot"
APPLES ARE GOOD AT TALKING N STUFF?!??!@?!?@~?@!?@
We know Apple is great at diction. I mean just look at all the web sites devoted to how badly programmed Siri is and their autocorrect text feature.
"So the worlds most popular tablet by far with a predicted 70% market share is really 'poor' and not really succesful and ony perceived that way through artificial shortages?
Some haters really will sprout all konds of shit to make a point they dont have..."
Ok, so that guy wasn't particularly well spoken. Let's take this approach. What is something the iPad does better than any other device? (Besides marketing for gullible idiots)
Email? No. Phones are more portable for reading on the go. Computers are more convenient for the physical keyboards.
Web Browsing? Maybe. They're bigger than phones so better viewing, but that also makes them less portable. The weight of the iPad actually causes significant damage to your wrist if you use it while carrying it.
Movies? On the go, maybe. Again, awkward holding compared to a phone. Android has Netflix and does video just as well, so definitely no advantage there. Android devices can output to 1080p allowing you to plug your device in to a tv and watch on a real screen.
eBooks? Apple charges more, is trying to illegally force all eBook providers to charge more. Not to mention that their device is outperformed by the Kindle (Android!) and Nook.
Content development (Word, Excel, Access)? Ha. I laughed. No, iPads are garbage for that kind of thing.
So the only things that the iPad does well are done equally as well or better by other devices. The only reason to buy one is to show everyone that you have money to throw away.
And the intentional shortages aren't to create a false sense of success, it is a marketing ploy to encourage people to make quick uninformed decisions. That is why coupons have expiration dates, so that people will buy without considering that they actually have no use for the item they are buying.
"The Proview iPAD has no resemblance whatsover to Apple's fondleslab, but there's more than a passing similitude between it and another groundbreaking Apple product, the original bulbous iMac."
Is this a jab at how Apple lies about everything being magical and revolutionary or is the author actually of the opinion that the iMac was a "groundbreaking" product? If the author is indeed of that opinion, then I am afraid I must announce that I do not wish to reside on this planet anymore. iMacs were garbage.
They are the same thing... All the disk drives in the warehouse were purchased at pre flood cost. Due to the fact that there would be nearly no new drives for a few months, the prices rose. They aren't buying drives at higher costs, there are no drives to buy.
"simplest user interface you could imagine"
I call it... THE TELEVISION REMOTE. Apple has once again created a new piece of magical technology that NO ONE ELSE HAS EVER BEFORE.
Or perhaps they will copy Logitech again with the Harmony app. Use your iPad to change the channels. Must spend on the most expensive version of the iPad then pay $1.99 for the app.
15 different vendors were selling tablets when Apple released the iPad. Not to mention that Apple had failed to license the name iPad so they named their product that anyway. Didn't stop them then, won't stop them now.
"Right now is a pointless verbal slagging match - no real tech patents are involved."
Because Apple doesn't have any. Google will shortly when the Motorola Mobility action is over. Then Apple will be paying 50% of its profits to Google for the rest of eternity.
"What? If the patent was for a touchscreen they'd "work around" it by going back to the old style phones. Would apple win in that situation? Of course it bloody would."
The problem is that Apple doesn't own any legitimate patents. They've never invented anything.
The iPod scroll wheel was created by Sony and licensed by Apple after Sony couldn't figure out how to use it.
The iPad looks a bit like the Samsung tablets, probably because it is about 85% Samsung components.
Siri was already fully developed and being worked on by the company that created it before Apple licensed it.
"Don't bother trying to be balanced when the haters are about. You'll only get voted down."
OH EM GEE
Not voted down! The horror! The terror! The unspeakable pain!
What's that? No one with intelligence greater than a 4 year old considers the number or up or down votes as a measure of a post's validity?
If this is all consumer sales and there are 6 blackberries in the top 9 then perhaps RIM isn't as bad off as they look. Blackberries still have the highest security clearance for government and the best enterprise connectivity.
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