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A Windows 8 tablet might work in the corporate market, because Android hasn't really established itself as the alternative to Apple yet, and having the same os as the desktop could have its attractions, but in the phone market, it is going to be very difficult to get application developers to support three or four platforms. In both the phone and tablet markets, there just isn't room for another single-vendor OS.
For the phone. market, HP should probably concentrate on the mobile worker market, handheld machines with barcode readers and optionally small thermal printers for people who need to collect data on the move -warehouse / stock control, delivery drivers, service engineers; that sort of thing. They have traditionally used Windows Mobile. Windows Phone doesn't really work for that model, but either Android or WebOS would, as the device will have one App which is custom developed for that business or sold off the shelf as part of a much bigger package.
Re: App vs Broswer
No, and I don't think you can do it with the iPhone YouTube app either. Certainly not the built in one, I haven't tried the Google one yet.
Re: @ auburnman
The advantage of Apps over web pages is that you only have to download the user interface once, and you can do this when you have a fast connection, such as home wifi. Then the app only needs to download the data, so when you are on the road and have a slow 3G or even 2G connection, it will be faster than using a web page.
For YouTube however, the data makes up the vast majority of the bandwidth requirements of the site, and it doesn't really make that much difference whether iPhone's native h.264 video player streams from YouTube via the YouTube app or via a web page in Safari.
Does anyone actually pay attention to the "do not track" header?
Re: Waste of my time
Well if we were to switch to driving on the other side of the road, it would need to be done overnight. You can't have some people driving on the left and some driving on the right. Maybe you could start with some islands that are connected to the mainland only by ferry, but otherwise, it would need to happen at a particular time, and if Northern Ireland were to switch, the Republic would need to switch on the same day as well.
Having said that, I don't really see the point of it. It would cost a lot of money to replace all the road signs, repaint the road markings and redesign junctions, with very little, if any benefit.
Re: Waste of my time
There were benefits to doing that. In Windows, what you see on the screen is what you might see on paper when you print it out. You don't need to stick a sheet of paper on your keyboard saying what all the function keys do. You don't have a completely different set of key-press sequences to do similar things (eg open and save files and text formatting) in Lotus. You don't have to install printer drivers separately for WordPerfect and Lotus123. You can run both at the same time and copy things between them. You can have both of them up on screen at the same time.
What are the benefits of running Windows 8? It is a bit faster than Windows 7, which is nice, but most computers can run Windows 7 plenty fast enough.
Re: It has already been said, but...
Those sorts of cookies are totally legal. The ones that are not legal are the ones that monitor the items you look at in shopping sites, and display adverts for them on your form pages.
Re: Cookies are vastly under recognised
Session cookies to remember that you have logged in are of course perfectly legal. A tick-box option to remember your login details next time you visit is fine as well, though to be sure it is legal you should probably add a short half line explanation that ticking this box will save the login details on your computer. People would chose not to tick this box if for example they were using someone else's computer, or they know that other people use their computer.
One example I noticed recently which is not OK:
This was on a freshly installed computer that I was using for the first time since re-installation. I had been tracked without being given the opportunity to opt-out never mind being asked if I agreed to it. Imagine, if while I was in Tesco, someone came up to me, shoved a leaflet in front of my face, and told me that I was looking at this item in another shop earlier in the day, would I be interested in buying it. This is what these people are doing on the internet. It is not acceptable behaviour.
It is not an e-ink display if that's what you mean. It is an android slab where you buy stuff from Amazon rather than the Google Play store, so I think it is in the same market segment as the iPad.
Re: A wonderful idea!
I'm guessing the solar cells will contribute towards the power requirements of the electrical systems on board meaning less demand for fuel. At cruising altitute, you are usually above the clouds, so it will work most of the time. At night, and in cloudy weather, it would revert to 100% generator powered.
Re: Google don't help themselves
Except they are not. You can fit a lot more on a 10" screen than on a 3" screen even if they both have the same number of pixels. iPad apps don't display an iPhone like interface in giant letters. Android apps may well do.
Re: It's only the tech minded
When people see my Samsung phone, they recognise it as "a Google Phone". They understand that the apps and other stuff can be purchased from the Google Play store rather than the iTunes store, and that manufacturers other than Samsung make phones like that.
I did a survey of all the El Reg subscribers I know personally, and found that 100% of them have an Apple fondleslab, A Samsung Galaxy S, a MacBook Pro, a Windows desktop, an OpenSuse server and a Windows server.
The sample size is 1, which is more than sufficient to get an accurate profile of the El Reg readership as a whole.
Re: Not hard to get around...
It might be better to say that it has correspondence with your solicitor. They are not allowed to see that.
Buying Bitcoins is not illegal. Selling them might be (under the EU e-money directive). There are legal uses for them, such as admiring them on your computer screen or donating them to charity.
Re: 30 days?
That is one of the options get_iplayer offers, but flashhd, when available, is the best quality for downloading, and flashvhigh which is pretty much always available is also better than the iPhone version. They use rtmpdump which fools the server into thinking it is Adobe Flash and downloads the stuff that way.
Re: "content"? discontent
Most of the radio programs are available as podcasts, so you can download them that way. On an iDevice you would use iTunes to download them.
Re: On a plane?
You only need a TV licence to watch or save the live streams on iPlayer, not the on-demand stuff. These days, with the rewind feature, you don't have to wait too long before it is legal to watch without a licence.
An AppleTV costs £99, and Apple don't don't have a reputation for being cheap. I am aware that you can't watch broadcast TV on it, and you can't do much more than watch stuff you have bought off iTunes, but nevertheless, Apple do tend to set the price ceiling in the markets they operate in.
Re: What am I missing?
It is indeed a desktop environment that runs on lots of different systems. However, if you want to run "Linux", the kernel on its own isn't much use. You need the GNU operating system and for desktop use, x.org or xfree86 and a desktop environment as well.
I'm not entirely sure choice is a good thing on an operating system. When a non-technical user installs a new operating system, they don't want to be asked anything more than language, time zone and network passwords. If they are asked which desktop environment they want to install, they aren't going to have a clue which one to pick and that's when you start getting support calls.
Re: Shock announcement...
Supposing you are a music band. People who "like" your band will receive updates about what gigs you are playing, and if you are playing near them, they might attend the gig. That is an example of where facebook advertising can work. Obviously it is very different to Google advertising where people search for a Ford Transit Van for example will get links to local van dealers and might buy the van from one of them.
Re: Not quite
Scots isn't part of the Celtic family of languages. It is very similar to English.
A software developer who wants to check that their product works on Windows 8 without inflicting it on the staff for everyday use.
Re: Cue Dame Stella Rimington
Because he is one of the officers assigned to the task?
Re: No way THAT could go wrong...
You can spoof headers to make it look like you are a proxy server for another destination. This apparently is good enough to fool iPlayer into allowing access from non-UK based computers. I haven't tried it as for me, a VPN connection back home is easier to set up, and has other benefits.
Re: It's a shame they don't just use networking...
I believe you can do that with an iPhone or iPod Touch, a MacBook and Keynote. I haven't tried it though.
Re: Actually one thing I could add
I was under the impression that Chernobyl was operated by a government rather than a profit seeking corporation.
Re: we know that nuclear power is safe
If you only care about body-count, then nuclear scores pretty well. However Chernobyl and Fukushima have left large areas of land uninhabitable for the next 1000 years or so. How many people are starving to death every year who wouldn't be starving to death if that part of Ukraine and Belarus could be used as productive farmland to produce more food?
Re: The Usual Silliness
The tree-huggers would like us to go back to travelling on horse-back and on rowing boats. If two horses bump into each other, not much happens; so a lot safer than cars.
From my brief testing of the Windows 8 RC in a Parallels virtual machine, I wasn't able to do very much, but I could do it quite a bit quicker than in Windows 7 in a Parallels VM on the same MacBook. If I could get the Windows 8 performance improvements with a Windows 7 interface, then I would move to it.
Or to be able to buy the cheapest stuff for their farm, and sell the stuff for the best price; or browse recruitment sites to find jobs, and contact potential employers to arrange interviews.
My only concern is that £133.33 per handset seems pretty expensive.
I'm glad it works for you, but I certainly wouldn't want my parcels left with the neighbours. A local Paypoint shop would be much more convenient.
Re: Why on earth would you want to pay over the top rpice for an Apple television ?
The benefit of having an Apple TV would be that you don't have loads of boxes attached to your screen, you don't have loads of different remotes to control them, and you don't have to navigate lots of completely different, confusing interfaces to use them.
There are lots of people who would switch from Virgin to Sky or vice versa if only one of them offered the Apple TV. You shouldn't underestimate the potential for extra customers.
Studies on Buckfast, which has even more caffeine than Red Bull suggest that it isn't a good thing to take if you want to remain "sensible".
Re: Caveat emptor
The argument in favour of bitcoins appears to run as follows:
"Fiat currency is a massive ponzi scheme backed by inadequate collateral and weak ineffective regulation. The answer to this problem is to put your money in a massive ponzi scheme backed by absolutely zero collateral and no regulation whatsoever."
I know the bitcoin astroturfers will be furiously hitting the red arrow a few pixels away from this comment, but who in their right mind would trust even a single Zimbabwean Dollar to an outfit that has a domain registered with a proxy owner, no address on their website and is not registered with a Financial Services Authority or similar anywhere in the world?
Re: Fast charging
However, electric cars were around before diesel and later petrol cars were invented. People did charge their cars at home, and an 8 hour charge would get them a 20-30 mile range. A couple of litres of peanut oil, which isn't that flammable, would give them a similar range, and the car could potentially carry a lot more than that. That is why the internal combustion engine became a popular choice to power cars.
Re: @Tom 38
No, but everyone switches their kettle on when the closing credits for Eastenders appears, or at the ad break in the middle of Coronation Street.
Re: Twat alert
Well the stuff carved on rocks is pretty easy to read. However I have no idea how you plan to read a WordPerfect file stored on a 5.25" floppy, or even worse, one of the other competing formats that was around at the same time. At least with WordPerfect, if you can sort out the hardware problems, the current version of WordPerfect will read it. If it is one of the competing non-PC computers, then it would be even more difficult.
Re: Evil pirates of the high seas!
Leonardo Da Vinci died in 1519, so the copyright on the Mona Lisa has long since expired. You can buy copies of it in many places, try the National Gallery shop for example. In any case, some of the earliest copies of the Mona Lisa were done by Leonardo's apprentices with Leonardo himself showing them how to do it, and some of them are in better condition than the original in the Louvre.
Holidays quietest time?
Surely holiday times are when people are most likely to want to look at the website. If they are going on holiday they want to know whether they can leave the phone on without their phone bill matching the GDP of a small country within a few seconds of arriving in the country or whether they should take the battery and sim card out of the phone, wrap everything in separate pieces of tin-foil and use it only for extreme emergencies.
Re: BBM for Android/iPhone/Windows/Linux?
There are enough people already on Blackberry Messenger for teenagers to specifically chose a Blackberry as their phone so they can keep in touch with their friends.
"Our homeopathic water will cure cancer allegedly"
Will get you into just as much trouble (a stern telling off from the Advertising Standards Authority) as if you missed off the word "allegedly". It is in breach of the Cancer Act and the Control of Misleading Advertisements Regulations.
Re: Ease congestion on the M25?
If you slow people down gradually when there is congestion ahead, they don't slam on the breaks when they see a wall of traffic ahead. That means you get a steady 40-50mph through the congested area rather than stop-start waves that continue for hours after the blockage is cleared. That is why the temporary speed limits work very well.
Re: Very strange behaviour indeed
$6,000,000 will get you an income of somewhere between $60,000 and $90,000 per year if you put it in secure investments. I don't know how many people that has to be split between, but if it is more than about 2, then it probably isn't enough to live a middle class lifestyle never mind not having to worry about money again.
Re: Very strange behaviour indeed
There is a big difference between selling a song to a company for them to play to their customers in the normal course of business, eg a radio station, a nightclub etc, and selling it to a company for use in advertising materials.
My sim-only contract is 300 minutes, unlimited* texts and unlimited* internet for £15.32 per month. When I looked at the extra cost to get a handset, it worked out over the term of the contract to be pretty much exactly the same amount extra as buying the handset. That means that provided I remembered to either get a new phone or switch to sim only on the exact month the contract expires, I get an interest free loan. Any delays in doing so are their profit.
Is this really news?
Can you only install windows from a USB stick on computers that don't have optical drives?
Otherwise, the only news here is that Apple plans to release a new model in two of their product lines at some point in the future, which isn't really very surprising.
Re: So "Metro" is taken...
Subway is a sandwich retailer
Re: There is NO BACKUP in the CLOUD, ONLY VAPOR
If that shelf is in the same building as the server it is backing up, then it doesn't protect against some of the hazards that could affect your data, such as fire, flood, physical theft and so on. A cloud backup, being off-site may provide better protection. It is a good idea to have both.