Re: Ugly design and expensive
The fact that it is very compact and essentially silent should impress you. It is an innovative and effective piece of industrial design.
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"While you're at it grab the bastard who decided every show needs to give you a preview of what is about to happen, and then every five minutes remind you of what just happened and then at the end show you what will happen next week. Whoever you are please, please stop!"
It is the "Powerpoint Presentation Generation"
1: Tell them what you are going to tell them
2: Tell them
3: Tell them what you told them
This is the formula.
My university student number, still "tatooed on the ack of my neck" was 761 nnnn denoting my first year as 1976. So I was very definitely alive at that time, and have been "computing" since 1978 IIRC, RSTS/E on the PDP 11/70 IIRC.
FORTRAN and I never got on. After a chance meeting with a very large and quite sohpisticated business accountig/payroll/project mangement ... system, completely written in FORTRAN (I am a caps guy too), though largely via generated code, I owed that I would avoid it. For this sin I was sent to the purgatory of PASCAL for quite some time, a pig of a language IMHO. Many things followed, but these days I avoid writing code alogether. The children in the office do that.
That particular Chopard has very definitely crossed the line between "timepiece" and "jewellery".
And I "know" you just went here to get your choices and that you probably have never heard of these particular pieces. http://uk.askmen.com/top_10/entertainment/top-10-most-expensive-watches_1.html
@bitterbug
a) Patek has a fine and well deserved reputation
b) So could many people who do not own one. Like you, they probably never will
c) Watches, cars, fine china, antiques, classic cars ... these are just things. Those interested in them, will make the effort to own and enjoy owning them.
You probably wouldn't feel any different wearing a Patek or any of the more discrete top end timepieces. Trust me, except for people with an interest, no one will notice or care. On the other hand, were you to kit yourself out with a Rolex Presidential or some other hideously ostentatious watch, well aside from deserving gaol time for poor taste, you will probably feel pretentious and the bling will attract, well people who are attracted to bling. Not really the people I would want to attract personally.
I don't have too many pocket watches. Very fine pocket watches can be had for quite small sums if you look around and buy well.
And many times that for a car without a roof and only two seats to drive at weekends in summer.
Your point is?
I am reasonably confident that should I ever be short of a quid, I will be able to redeem my watch (and my car) collection(s) for considerably more than I paid for them. In the mean time, I will enjoy the pleasures of ownership.
And by the way, people with more disposable cash than you, are not twats because they spend (or invest) their cash in expensive items. Granted, there is the odd twat around, but they would be twats with or without their spending pattern.
Well, actually I bought it while my 3700/1A was in for a restoration (not the Timex). And for those who don't quite understand, I have had the 3700/1A since I bought it in 1978. I would suggest you research how much I paid for it versus how much they are traded for at the moment, then figure out what that amounts to in %/year in value. You might be surprised what you find out.
Buy well, and you can enjoy owning something rather nice and use it, then sell it 30 years later and have as much in hand as if you had never bought it and thrown the money in the bank. Buy junk, and you can throw it away when you are bored with it or it breaks, or perhaps hope for a few shillings on eBay.
It is pretty clear which option I prefer.
The same goes for cars.
I have quite a few time pieces, new and antique, cheap and not so cheap. That was the one I had on when I posted.
Either you had to look it up or you know what it is. Someone who knows what it is would likely not comment. Someone who had to look it up has probably never seen one either. The reference (pun intended) was for the benefit of the first group, and to troll the second. After all, the thread is a response to a patently moronic statement, so anything goes really.
Finally, "watch snobbery" would only work if the ones being snobbed (?) upon can actually recognise an expensive timepiece. Trust me on this, most people have no clue and don't want to know.
Really, you guys and you no one wears watches any more and other pointless blather ... it is patently untrue.
Just because you belong to the set of people who choose not to wear one, does not mean that a majority or even a large minority don't wear one.
As for "flash and expensive", I doubt you would even recognise an expensive watch, and that would put you firmly in the majority group!
Icon: Mine's the one with a a reference 5712G-001 up the sleeve.
Most of the world does not have English as their primary teaching language - get over it.
Publishing & printing textbooks in minor languages is expensive! Try buying a library of textbooks for a university education written in a minor language sometime - think passing kidney stones.
Publishing textbooks on ANY tablet is a solution to the first part of this expensive exercise, and it is not a one time saving.
One might argue for an ePaper book reader, but looking forward, colourful eBooks on a tablet, with an interactive component are an obvious development eminently suitable to the educational environment. Add to that educational mind games etc. and there are many reasons to move toward a tablet solution.
"unless they are perceived as anti-Linux!"
Try mentioning Sony, Apple and/or the US justice system in a positive light and see how many downvotes you garer!
While the freetards are legion here, they are IMHO vastly outnumbered by the anti-anycompanythatisuccessfulandintendstomakemoney crowd
I flew SleazyJet(tm) on Friday and this evening. The LGW approach was "exciting" to say the least and I was impressed that the landing was as neat as it was. Top marks to Mr. Pilot. As for the rest, well, it seemed pretty much like every other airline, except everything costs. I have flown enough to allow myself to have an opinion on these things*. I appreciated being able to buy a train ticket in flight and avoid the 32 million people at the station ticket machines/windows, so I rate that as excellent service. I was on a flight out of GVA last week and it was on time and efficiently handled.
All in all, I may have to even stop calling them SleazyJet(tm) if this keeps up
* DIsclaimer, I stopped counting when million got an s on it.
No.
I was just pointing out that not many tech companies have flagship phyisical outlets. Sony has a lot of products, so it is more obvious for them. Apple's range is significantly smaller. Nor was I suggesting anything needed protecting, though judging by the articles published here about "perfect copy" Apple shops in China some time back, there is apparently be a need. Will "copy" Samsung shops appear in China *before* Samsung actually rolls one out, now that is the real question.
I find it interesting that Samsung has decided to get into phyiscal retail at a time when slmost everyone else is getting out of it. Will Samsung stores sell their PCs, laptops, refrigerators (I have one of those actually), insurance etc. as well in their stores?
Beer, ommmmmmmm
Fuck, another false dichotomy fallacy!
R&D at Apple AND Samsung is completely unaffected by how much budget legal department has. These two things are unrelated logically and in fact.
This is a regular and stupid argument proposed by netizens constantly, proving the thesis that many people are not astute enough to recognise their own stupidity.
Trevor, one day when I next visit Canada, you are on my list of people I want to share a few hours of discussion with.
Of course, last time I was in Canada they deported my ass back to Chicago (point of departure to Canada) for some rather spurious and as it turned out completely bogus reasons. So, I am not sure whether to "chance" it again. But if I do, we should drink.
pjl
licence = noun
to license = verb
advice = noun
to advise = verb
Wait ... I have already done this.
Confusion between nouns and verbs is not the only issue a vast number of Americans have with the English language, and some English speaking people as well, sadly.
'... the fact that 99% of its "mobile revenue" '
Do you have an authoritative citation for this assertion?
I suspect you meant to refer to profitability rather than revenue, as patent and licensing revenues have fairly low ongoing costs, while selling HW & SW does require some heft expenditures.
You know, I realise that history is something most people in here know nothing of, but we already had "the great watch race", and it was far grander and considerably more interesting.
http://www.amazon.com/Grand-Complication-Build-Worlds-Legendary/dp/1439190089
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/05/books/review/a-grand-complication-by-stacy-perman.html?pagewanted=all
And so on.
For those of you without an horological appreciation, too bad.
Ignition on iPad was the tablet access to the free service. It was a $30 app, not cheap at all. Lots of people paid for it in the belief that the company statements that "LogMeIn Free is, and always will be free".
Then LMI decided to do a switch, and put an essentially similar free app "Logmein" into the app store.
LMI then decided that if they eliminated Logmein Free entirely, they would not be breaking their "always free" statement.
And there you have it, a lot of people who paid money to LMI and who are now feeling very aggrieved.
Bootnote: I have read on the LMI forum that Googleplay are paying refunds for people who paid for the Android version of Ignition.
Unfortunately the latest version on the Mac is load of bollocks and is worth exactly what we have paid for it - zero.
This is a shame because I have used it a lot to help fam,ily remotely, connect to my home server remotely etc. It is not too popular with the IT department at work though, they prefer we use the dedicated VPN.
It has never supported Linux, for reasons I don't quite understand, since OSX is Unix, it cannot be that hard to support Linux. Maybe it's a market too small.
Anyway, the new "pluginless" version loses connections constantly, it is almost unusable. And there is this new bozo hybrid model they have employed, where one needs to login via a browser, then there is an "app" that is downloaded and started from browser. It is supposed to store it somewhere secret, and use it for the next login - yeah, right. Completely bogus architecture - the web browser is a pointless distraction, just deliver an app. Oh, and it is broken with Firefox for many users, going into an infinite "download app" loop. I did get it somewhat stable with Safari, except of course it couldn't hold itself afloat.
LogMeIn used to be an outstanding product. Now it's pants.
"Can you provide peer reviewed evidence that CO2 isn't the cause?"
I am terribly sorry, but that is what you stated. Your attempt to claim that it is not what it clearly is, merely makes you look more fololish than you did in the original post.
Cut your losses and stop now.
a) I cannot prove that I did not murder Jimmy Hoffa.
b) I can prove that I was born after Jimmy Hoffa died.
c) Therefore I could not have killed Jimmy Hoffa.
d) My innocence is established not by proving a negative proposition, but by proving a positive one that excludes the possibility of me killing dear old Jim.
Geddit?
Moron. Get a job in the IRS, they are very possibly the largest bastion of people who consistently require proof of negative propositions. You will be right at home there.
"@Jtom - Can you provide peer reviewed evidence that CO2 isn't the cause? I really am interested to read this if you can. I've seen some typical print media responses but no links back to actual papers."
Oh no, another commentard wanting proof of a negative proposition.
Somewhere along the line our education system has failed us :(
"Speak for yourself. I (and clearly others) find the new interface and start menu to be a huge step forward from the Start button which is not that far removed from how it was in 1994. I also like the new functionality that TIFKAM brings while still having the ability to run my legacy apps."
I don't give a FF about the start menu/button, that is a red herring for the most part. You and others keep harping on about it as if it is the only issue at hand - it is not.
Intimate whatever you want. I am both well off and very successful, and I didn't become so by being "flavour of the month" oriented or by wasting effort learning useless things or solving problems for which I am not being paid. Windows8 gets in the way, so professionals such as myself loathe it. Windows8 is just a window (pun intended) into the world where I work. Boarding it up and removing the latches (to continue the metaphor) is a suboptimal solution for me and everyone else who deals with things behind the window.
The improvements in Windows 8 at the actual OS level are many and it is certainly a good evolution upwards from Windows7. What we all want, is the Windows7 user interface available on the Windows8 OS core. It is not about the "Start Menu". It is about a zillion things that have become byzantine in the half-assed "Metro" interface. We get paid, some of us quite handsomely, to do clever and complex stuff that is important and from which our employers derive business advantage, enabling them to pay our salaries.
We are not paid by Microsoft to fuck around all day fighting a user interface that we did not ask for and would dearly love to be shot of!
"It's a good job Microsoft have made a web browser so easily accessible in Windows 8, because most people need to use Google every 30 seconds to look up how to do something that was obvious and easy in almost all prior versions of Windows."
That is so fucking true. I have been dicking around with a new 2012 cluster machine today and it was an awful experience and yes I had to google all sorts of things. And that fucking default colour scheme has got to go, asap.
I would have thought that the effort "converting Kms to Nautical miles." would be identical to the effort needed to convert Imperial (and by extension US) miles to Nautical miles.
Hell, airplanes measure fuel in in litres and then make caluclations in pounds and measure air speed in knots.
I really don't give a toss, I am equally comfortable with metric and celcius or Imperial and Fahrenheit. Where I get it wrong is when in the US, we have a US gallon, a US quart and so on. So personally, if the US started using any other standard for liquid measures, that would be a good start.
The standard MO of Google is, and always has been, to brazenly flout laws which they do not like. No monetary penalty can hurt them, apparently. There is no news here, and it has been going on for a very,very long time.
Even the full weight of EU punishment when meted out is only 10% of Global revenue, which Google could swallow without very much pain, as MS also did.