54 posts • joined 6 Aug 2009
I don't know if it was too long ago for you to do this, but I had a similar experience with Vodafone and ended up taking them through the small claims court process at which point they coughed up for both my costs and my time (I settled for less mainly because I originally put my time at £50/hour which was my current contract rate).
They also put a black mark on my credit record, previously I couldn't care less what they did but when they did that it got serious (I was looking into getting a mortgage at the time).
If you can gather up provable costs incurred by their mistake, and a reasonable estimate of the amount of time spent messing about with it, then you can write to them to bill them. If they don't respond or refuse after a couple of attempts (give them a reasonable chance to make good on their error) then put in a small claims action at https://www.moneyclaim.gov.uk.
It may sound like a lot of hassle but it's really just a couple of letters and an online form and the courts sort the rest out for you. You might be surprised at how quickly they jump once the court letter comes through the door...
"both the theory of evolution and non-earth life are both unproven"
However, the Theory of Evolution has gargantuan piles of evidence supporting it from a variety of separate fields such as biology and geology, and not one single piece of evidence to my knowledge has ever been found that would invalidate the theory. And it only takes one piece of solid verifiable evidence to blow the entire theory to bits.
Therefore the Theory of Evolution has not been dis-proven, which is more important.
Re: So this capitalism thing
Name me one single thing socialism stands for, separate from any other ideology, that does not involve, at some level, taking things from others or ordering others about backed up by the threat of force?
Healthcare? - Taxes/Inflation/Debt
Welfare? - Taxes/Inflation/Debt
Education? - Taxes/Inflation/Debt
Union rights? - Backed up by force
Some of these might be argued to be good things, but the socialist method of providing them is by threatening others to provide the resources to do them, not by encouraging free and volutary exchange like Capitalism does.
State Capitalism is a better name for Crony Capitalism thank you.
Re: So this capitalism thing
No, it's nothing like that at all.
Capitalism is the free and voluntary exchange of goods and services whereby both parties gain value from the trade.
Socialism is where people with guns force capitalists to give them some or all of the stuff they have produced and traded.
Crony-Capitalism is where scumbags get the aforementioned state to fix the rules in their favour so that everyone except them gets stolen from, in exchange for throwing a few smaller bungs to a few key people in the state as sweetners.
What you were describing was Crony-Capitalism and should have a different name because real Capitalism is the polar opposite of it.
I would be more likely to consider those who need numbers to be based on their finger count as imbeciles than those who can count in a variety of bases in their heads.
Re: Saved by my own laziness
I managed to overcome my laziness about a month ago after procrastinating about a year and have now lost it all (well, all 0.54 bitcoins anyway which I mined then made a profit on selling the asic miner so effectively free).
I was robbed!
Re: @Graham Dawson - Leave it out
There's nothing ethical about taxes at all. Just because a majority of people agree that it's ok to force a minority of people to give them money, under threat of force, doesn't make it right.
Tax avoidance and evasion are our moral duty. I've done the first but not the last, because I'm afraid of the government and what it would do to me. Terrorist B*stards.
It's not the cost, it's the method of funding. If it's so great then why are they so afraid of selling their product rather than having the government force people to buy it?
"However, Hewlett warned of "perverse incentives" for the BBC if subscriptions were introduced - it would seek to maximise revenue rather than maintain quality."
Does the concept of maximising revenue *by* maintaining quality not occur to them. I'm not an Apple fan but you can't deny they have done well by producing quality products for example.
Overall it's about damn time these things were being looked at. There's a few good BBC programs I watch but there's an awful lot I object to being forced to pay for if I dare to watch Sky Atlantic.
Join the free market - thrive or fall like the rest of us have to.
Did you get the letter from a company called Payco shortly after the administration telling you how to claim from the national insurance? They sent a form RP1 or RP2 I believe. If you moved house shortly after you might have missed these.
You might want to get in touch with FTI Consulting and get them to re-send documents, or failing that get in touch with National Insurance directly.
Re: How sublime . . .
I was thinking Venus. I read somewhere once that water precipitation helps scrub co2 from the atmosphere so Ceres could be all that's needed to terraform our red-hot sister if we could split it up and chuck it at Venus.
Although I imagine there's a little more to it than that...
Private vs State charity
This is a nicely timed article as I was wondering recently exactly how much Bill Gates spent to eradicate polio in India compared to the £16 billion-odd the UK takes from it's people and unborn children every year and spends on "International Development". I can't think of anything so significant that our aid money has achieved, and you can be pretty sure if there was the politicians would have blown the trumpets to the high heavens to tell us about it...
This is a sterling example of why the state should not take it upon itself to be the conscience of the country. Just leave our money in our pockets and we will support charities far better than they will!
Re: 1366 x 768
Same here, I bought an Acer Travelmate 8103WLMi for about £700 with Radeon graphics and a 1680x1050 resolution back in 2004ish.
What the hell is going on nowadays?
Re: Hmm... (A.C. 11:38)
"but a 2014 one will cost you 450 quid."
Find a different dealer chap, I get them for less than £200 at today's prices. Bullionbypost for example.
Re: I want a Technicolor dreamcoat for X-mas !
"Also didn't Jesus rageclean the temple back at around 0 A.D.?"
Son of god or not - ragecleaning the temple of moneylenders while still drinking Mary's milk is pretty damn impressive!
Re: The Science IS Settled ..
"Deniers" is such a pissant word and nothing more than a new form of "Heretic".
I doubt any of those you label Deniers deny that climate change is real. All the non-religious know that ~20,000 years ago it was a lot colder in Europe than it is now, and that the climate changed, ergo climate change is real.
If you meant man-made climate change then please say that. No, the phrase "climate change" is not generally understood to mean "man-made climate change".
So please, if we are to be adult about this as you seem to want, stop calling people names and stop dismissing dissenting opinion as contemptible.
Re: Greenland was actually, you know green.....
I'm sure I heard somewhere that Greenland was called Greenland to tempt Vikings to move and settle there, when in fact it was pretty horrible compared to Scandinavia.
I suppose I'll have to google it now...
Re: Standardised connector: SCART
Quit right. He should say "cheese-eating surrender monkeys"
No no - now they are "America's oldest ally" since we Brits told the yanks to piss off over Syria.
Re: It is impossible to have a billion dollars without that fact in some way helping others.
"Perhaps true but if we assume that $1bn existed already, concentrating it in one person's bank account is probably the least beneficial option."
However if the billion was earned on the free market (no state involvement or corporate welfare) then that billion would have been traded to the rich person in return for goods/services/expertise of at least the same value or more. The benefits have already been realised.
Re: Programs and programmes
I think they just need to stop threatening us with fines and imprisonment if we don't pay them even if we don't watch them. Do that and the problems sort themselves out, or at least people don't give a shit as it's not our money anymore.
You're flinging assumptions about left right and centre here chap. Where on earth did you read that I thought it was ok for people to be locked up for 40 years for a crime they didn't commit?
We have a choice:
1) Live in a country where criminals get arrested, charged and brought before a jury to decide on their fate. Some mistakes are made causing extreme grief to the innocently charged, their friends and family.
or (as you seem to be suggesting, having described no alternative at all)
2) Live in a country where no one gets thrown in jail or otherwise punished for crimes because your level of proof required is impossible to meet. Chaos reigns; thefts, murders rapes go on with impunity and increase in number as nothing is done about it, millions of lives ruined, civilization collapses as there is no security for your own person or property so no point in building or maintaining things.
I choose number 1, with all it's faults.
"I am sure all those imprisoned unjustly and falsely are so happy with you all for having such faith in the justice system, if only so many of them hadnt either died in prison or had their lives utterly ruined & robbed from them by it."
Have you a viable alternative that doesn't allow huge amounts of criminals to get off scott free?
Your point is an argument against the death penalty (an argument I would agree with), not against juries.
AC's comments are why we should have the basic legal framework of this country taught in schools (perhaps it is and my school was an exception?).
I served on a jury recently and made no effort at all to get out of it as I was interested in it and wouldn't dream of "getting out of it". Enforced slavery? Yes, but then so are taxes and I'm sure you pay them.
"And without knowing the truth by having being there at the commision of the crime how can you tell who is telling the truth ?"
That is the entire point of a jury trial, or do you think we shouldn't bother with legal proceedings at all because nothing in this world is provable to 100% reliability? "These 3 witnesses to the murder could all have been sharing the same hallucination m'lud - it can't be proven they weren't"...
If you ever get the chance to serve on a jury trial then I suggest you take it, you will learn a lot. The jury's decision is not based on anything other than if the evidence presented has made them "sure" that the defendant committed the crime, and if 12 people are sure that's as good a standard as we are going to get in an imperfect world.
Re: Colour me shocked...
I was under the impression that new information came to light through Edward Snowden just recently, which showed the NSA wiretaps people NOT under investigation and at their own whim. Whereas prior understanding was that they would wiretap suspected terrorists or whatever, and had to go through some process to get that authority.
"The elite are threatened by a currency which is not under the control of the state" - Fixed for you.
The rest of us want money that does not lose value over time. Sovereign countries in the last century have continually debased their currencies for the benefit of the elites and the detriment of the rest of us, especially the middle class with some modest savings (like me). This process went into overdrive after 1971 when Nixon took the world off the gold standard and made the world a fiat currency zone.
Prime example: I have a gold sovereign coin which is legal tender as a £1 coin, and was in circulation before WW1 as such. In August 1971 the gold in the coin was worth about £4.10 so had lost about 76% of it's value before Nixon broke the link to gold (pound exchange rate to dollars, dollars could be converted to gold). Today the gold value of that coin is approx £220, meaning the good old British Pound has lost about 99.55% of the value it was 100 years ago and 98.14% since the month Nixon closed the gold window in 1971.
Fiat currencies allow governments to print without any constraint, which they have done with abandon. So screw state sovereignty when it comes to money - they can't be trusted with it.
Re: RE: ... is not a viable business case.
I've had a similar issue with a phone I returned to Vodafone but they failed to cancel the contract on it and proceeded to set up a direct debit and bill me (which they couldn't because I cancelled the DD). Talking to their customer service was completely futile, the only action I took that got a response was a small claims court action after months of frustration. I had to take action because they put a black mark on my credit record, which was eventually removed and returned to spotlessness.
Keep a log of everything you have communicated with that lot, all calls, letters and time taken (keep as much proof as possible) then send them a small claims court action for recompense of your expenses and time. Claim for double your hourly working rate (after all it's essentially overtime running around after their failures), and also state that you want the system corrected to not have this problem again.
After you have sent in the small claims - sit back and relax as the company shit themselves and solve all your problems, paying you for the privilege (accept a smaller sum than you originally claimed, to show yourself as a reasonable person).
Above all don't let it get your blood pressure up too much, I let that happen and it's no good at all. You will get justice if you have the patience.
Re: @AndrueC - Between The Unions and Thatcher
"OTOH my parents and grandparents would not buy anything from abroad on principle. That would be utterly impossible today, which shows how far things have gone."
Your parents and grandparents were part of the problem then. If they were not willing to purchase superior goods at a cheaper price from abroad then the British companies taking advantage of their little England mentality saw no reason to improve and compete in an increasingly global market. Whereas if your forebears had not subsidised them they may have restructured and innovated and still be around today.
Of course the Labour party (and Ted Heath's Tories) were massively to blame too, by propping up these industries with the money from productive people.
Mrs T. did what was necessary, and took all the hatred that should have fallen on the shoulders of those who went before her.
Re: Thank the stars she privatised BT...
If anyone doesn't admit Thatcher did a lot of good they need their head examining. But people rarely admit they were wrong all along, far easier just to go with the herd than engage thought processes.
Re: More detail
"Whereas those of us familliar with Hayek and Friedman, recognise it as such and know it's bollocks from the get go :-)"
I refer my right honourably friend to the "Fight of the Century: Hayek vs Keynes - Round 2" :)
Hayek CLEARLY won, we was robbed etc etc...
Re: More detail
"Rich bastards" will get taxed, rich companies are not the same thing. Dividends from the company to the shareholders would also get taxed.
But, assuming the "Rich bastards" in question were operating in a free market then they will have become rich by providing goods and services that consumers actually want, at a price and quality that the consumer has found fair in an equal trade according to the value the consumer places on them. They might still be bastards, but that's their right as free human beings, as is your right, nothing to do with the company.
Your point is good though, what if they just take the money away and hide it offshore? Well firstly it's their money, fairly earned (again assuming a free market) so they can do what they like with it. If they hide it in a bank then they effectively remove that money from the money supply in the system, which will have the opposite effect of the Bank of England spunking money all over the economy i.e. deflation - prices going down. I can't see that being a problem.
But let's be honest, the issue most people have has fuck all to do with economics or tax - it's jealousy.
I agree with the main thrust of the article but it needs more detail on why taxing companies is counter-productive.
I would have liked to have seen some depth on how not being taxed gives companies more scope to invest (more IT, buildings etc = economic boost), hire more people (less unemployment) and stuff like that. Without the meat to your argument people who haven't listened/read Friedman or Hayek et al will be genuinely confused about how it could be a good thing not to tax companies on their profits.
Yep, I made a short comment about it a few weeks ago about the Sale of Goods Act (which I used as the basis of my argument), here it is:
Never got to court I hasten to add.
My missus was all set to get her first iphone on her next upgrade too until she saw my Note 2, and now wants a Galaxy S3 instead. That and the fact I had to sue Apple (successfully) to get a replacement for a broken 18-month old iPad took the shine out of the reality distortion field.
" look how many points Mitt Romney is now ahead in the poles."
Those darn right-wing eskimos/penguins!
Re: conservative republicans?
Rubbish - Republicans/Right-Wingers/Tories etc have little interest in THE STATE providing social solutions except as a last resort because the state uses coercion to obtain the resources to provide them. The state also has a terrible track record of inefficiencies, vested interests, unintended consequences and sometimes plain corruption in the provision of these services.
Alternatives are organisations such as charities, churches/mosques/temples, friends, families, local groups etc, all of which are closer to the intended recipient so less layers of bureaucracy taking their slice of the pie, better targeted to needs and perhaps more appreciation by the recipient of where this help has come from. There can still be inefficiencies and corruption but less layers of bureaucracy give less scope for these.
An even more hated (by the left) alternative is that leaving the money that would otherwise be taxed for social services in the pockets of people and business then perhaps they can even fund more JOBS for the poor!!! But that of course would mean the no-longer-so-poor are less dependant on the dear leaders of the state, more self-reliant and with more pride in themselves, so much so that they might even consider voting Tory/Republican...
Can't have that can we!?
Re: SOGA should be mandatory teaching in schools
Fraud? What the hell are you talking about?
My faulty iPad was replaced (after me having to use the courts to get them to do anything about it) and I sold the replacement. How the hell is that fraud? Please explain.
SOGA should be mandatory teaching in schools
Absolutely right, and an important section of the Sale of Goods Act is this:
14 Implied terms about quality or fitness.
(2B)For the purposes of this Act, the quality of goods includes their state and condition and the following (among others) are in appropriate cases aspects of the quality of goods—
(a)fitness for all the purposes for which goods of the kind in question are commonly supplied,
(b)appearance and finish,
(c)freedom from minor defects,
Durability was the argument I made when I sued Apple for an iPad failure after 18 months of use. As far as I was concerned an iPad should reasonably work without failures for much longer than 18 months i.e. be durable. Apple Store rejected this, so did their phone support, my email never got a response.
Within a week of me submitting the small claims court action they were on the phone doing everything they could to "resolve this problem to my satisfaction". Old original iPad got replaced with a brand new top of the range 3rd gen one which promptly got eBayed for more than I demanded on the court claim.
Little guy 1 - Apple 0
Re: America bashing
Well said Miami Mike, and I assure you not all us Europeans think badly of the USA. Just too many loud ones.
Bought one of those X101CH models recently and it's perfect if, like me, you have to delve into messy networking cabinets on a regular basis to connect up to Cisco kit. It's so light I can hold it in one hand while typing on the other and totally fanless so won't suck in any dust.
With all the pre-installed crud stripped out and a spare ssd installed it's a perfectly acceptable web browser too.
Re: Not man-made
"Actually you can't say it isn't man-made. It might be."
In fairness, you also can't say it's not the whim of Loki. It might be.
SSD's are under £1/GB now so around a ton for a good make 120GB SSD. Plenty of notebooks out there with good build and battery life as well.
The Acer model approaches reasonable pricing though, to be fair.
The prices on most of these ultrabooks are ridiculous.
I'll take a notebook 5mm thicker and £700 cheaper thanks.
"Performance scales more or less linearly (okay, less) with the number of cores on a CPU or GPU, but power consumption and heat dissipation go up exponentially with clock speed."
Nonsense - power consumption and heat dissipation go up exponentially with voltage, but linearly with clock speed. Agreed, you often need to boost voltage to reach the higher clock speeds, but 10% more clock speed = 10% more power used as I understand it.
Intelligence -1 - Wisdom +2!
As any gamer knows well, Intelligence and Wisdom are two separate stats.
I like my conservative paladins built like an ox with the brain of a pea, but the Wisdom to know right from wrong.
That's how I roll! (the d20...)
“There is clearly an underlying problem with data protection in social services departments and we will be meeting with stakeholders from across the UK’s local government sector to discuss how we can support them in addressing these problems,” she added.
Indeed - the underlying problem is that when these things happen then taxpayers, who were not at fault, have to pay a fine. Yet we hear nothing of the individuals who were at fault, or their immediate superiors, losing their jobs, being demoted or perhaps they themselves being fined.
No dis-incentives for failure along with "shared responsibility" means no one cares - I've seen it way too much while working in the public sector.
If I didn't know any better I'd say all you respondees just got trolled.
Re: How do you
Quite easily, they have a lovely crossword section where you tap on one of the clue numbers at the side and it highlights the relevant squares, then just type the answer. You can change individual letters just by tapping on the square.
I love the Telegraph crossword on the iPad and the software is finally getting stable. It was a nightmare in the beginning though, constant crashes to desktop on an older iOS version.
It's worth the ~£10 a month for me, the Telegraph has good journalism with my preferred right-wing slant, minimal ads (none if you navigate via the panels on the left), no bulky papers annoying people to the side of me on the tube/bus, and of course the crossword.
Re: Wow, the more I read of these the more I sympathise with the rioters
"I just value people based on their merits not their bank balance"
Their merits? Their merits seem to be to loot and destroy whenever the opportunity arises, this is clearly proven. It has fuck all to do with the amount of cash in their pockets. I'm sure every single one of the looters has a roof over their head, clothes on their back, and food in their belly. Yet they still went out and caused terror and destruction because they could.
Remove your cranium from your posterior and come down from the ivory tower - the looters of the last few days are scum pure and simple. The reasons for them being scum can be debated at length, and will be, but as of now they are scum.
Those who believe benefits should remain or there will be more crime are making the same mistakes the Romans did, and which led to the fall of their empire: Throwing money at the barbarians to make them go away, only to have them come back for more because it obviously works for them - until the coffers were empty and they decided to stay. We are at the coffers empty stage now.
The answer is exceptionally low benefits (a soup kitchen to eat, a tiny flat to live, clothes from Oxfam), combined with effective, zero-tolerance policing. Leaving only one route open for people to improve their lot: Getting a job and contributing to society.
An emphasis on personal effort as the way to achieve this is crucial, and an end to the bollocks excuses that bleeding-heart wankers give people at the bottom to blame for their lack of success. It's not the bankers, the politicians, the rich or anyone else keeping them down - it's themselves.
Now I've set the world to rights I'm off for a wank!
Re: One swift kick and the whole lot will crumble
"What is it my grandfather used to say "Those who believe in a free market must become its slaves""
Perhaps your grandfather should have read Hayek's "The Road to Serfdom" then.
I use the free market to get the things I want at affordable prices, and to sell myself to the highest bidder, or withhold my labour should I feel the need or want.
The only things in my life that I am a slave to are the missus and the state.
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