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And one more thing...
ISP's trying to control what users have access to...
Hmmm.... Remember AOL?
Where do you get that I was bashing El-Reg??? I'm bashing the article and I'm saying it's the worst idea I've ever read here... ALL about it's content... nothing about it's container. Had I seen it on my local paper, or other tech outlet, or even in a comment... my reaction would have been the same.
As for why? I think it's pretty freakin'obvious!
The article argues that Google and others are taking consumers for a ride by providing free services thus keeping people (like ISP's) from being to monetize the services by charging for them.
Well... actually, Google gives the services and pass the bill to advertisers instead of consumers. And that's the way it SHOULD be!
Treating the Internet like cable TV would result in the same thing we get from cable TV. You get "basic", which is small, flat and uninteresting. Then you have to pay extra for "good" stuff. And then well, you really want only channel X... darn it only comes "packaged" with Y, Z and you have to pay extra extra for that.
Same as... you want access to El-Reg.. well it comes packaged with ZDNet, and SemiAccurate, and blogger... that'll all be extra.
I remember a time when specialty cable channels, that the consumer had to pay extra for, had no commercials because they were EXTRA and made money from subscription. Where did THAT go??
Actually, giving ISP control of where you're allowed to go online would be the BEST way of keeping the little companies OUT and killing innovation. Plus... it would force the ISP's to check and keep very careful track of where people go on the net... you think Google's privacy policies are a problem??? Yeah... sure... I trust big telcos with my personal stuff... sure...
Who was bashing El-Reg???
And your points are EXACTLY why I believe what the article proposes is completely ridiculous.
I would expect pictures like those at the end of that link to be removed no matter what the sex or age of the victim in them was...
Wholy crap, you're actually ADVOCATING FOR ISP's being able to sell you only the web services you want, like cable, instead of a free and open Internet?
Are you fucking insane????
This must be one of the most retarded thing I've ever read on the Reg... comments INCLUDED!
I've migrated a company to Office365. Wasn't my idea, I inherited the project.
The result was the it... works.
You get basically the same stuff you'd have with locally installed Office and Exchange.
Except you rent it for the rest of the lifetime of your company.
Re: As I predicted
Maybe, but at that it is a failure of epic proportions.
Most if not all major manufacturers have announced scaling back, or completely abandoning their plans for Windows tablets. Because of hardware requirements, licensing, lack of apps and a basically poor quality OS, Windows tablets simply cannot compete on price.
Because of the inefficiency of the OS, performance is dismal compared to same hardware with Android, so at very best, consumers would get a badly performing device, for 90$ more (Windows license vs Free Androis) than same device with Android.
in order to get good performance, consumers would have to pay hundreds more for the better hardware... only to get same performance as cheaper Android with none of the apps... it's a lose, lose, lose situation that Microsoft simply CANNOT win.
Sorry. The design of the UI may work very well on a tablet.... but the core of the operating system just doesn't cut it.
Are you serious??
You remove 7% of Android tablets because?? They are no brand tablets?
JUST so you can still say that what? Apple would be on top if it weren't for those damned pesky cheap tablets?
And then talk about a misleading title...Microsoft carves out "niche" taplet, competes with Apple for number 2.
At 7% vs 42%???
Microsoft isn't "competing"... it's desperately trying to hold on and losing money hand over fist... The title should actually read "Despite billions in advertizing, Microsoft barely outselling no-name knock-off Android tablets, not even close to Android or Apple".
Re: What gives ANY company the right...
NOW it may make sense...
I have to wonder if that's even legal!
You can't legally limit what people do with their own private property. (within the bounds of law... obviously)
Re: Absolutely true for me
First, NOBODY should be expected to install third party software on a brand new OS in order to make it "useable"... this is NOT acceptable.
Second: When the next update comes out, named Blue if I remember correctly, according to rumors this will no longer be possible. Microsoft will effectively be blocking the installation of the addons that return Windows to a semblance of useability. They are betting the farm on Metro... they will lose.
The Metro interface was designed by the same woman who designed the Ribbon.
In other words, back in 2007 Microsoft released a new version of Office. Immediately upon it's release, pretty much everyone flooded Microsoft with complaints that the new Office UI SUCKED. Things had been moved around uselessly, some features were now hidden under layers and layers of difficult to find sub menus, the menus themselves were meant to "adapt" with use, which caused this to move around and become unpredictable, etc etc etc... Personally... I'm STILL not used to it.
So in their great wisdom, what did Microsoft management do?
They gave that person, who was obviously clueless as to what users actually wanted, who designed that failure... the responsibility of designing an entire operating system UI...
In my humble opinion... they couldn't have done better had they PLANNED to sabotage the company.
Re: Who are they kidding?
<<Then for every 10 million sold the price goes up a fraction until demand trails off!>>
That model's already been tried, although at a smaller, independent scale.
I can't remember what the service was called, I remember using it to sell music though.
Songs would start at something like 0.10$/song, and the more people rated it up or bought them, the higher the price would go until it hit something like 0.99$.... when demand stopped, the price would slowly drop.
It was great, it was getting pretty popular with independent artists... and the it was bought out by a large online music company...and shut down and never replaced by anything like it.
THAT is free market at work right there.
Re: It's pathetic.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH we're ALL GONNA DIE!!!!!!!
"Just ask the people of New Orleans."
You mean the people who live in a bowl shaped area, near a heavy hurricane region, at an altitude below sea level and who think there's nothing wrong with that?
Neither are man boobs.
Wasn't there a story about a chinese guy who started lactating and breast feeding his daughter after the death of is wife a few years ago?
then doctors did confirm that men CAN in certain circumstances lactate?
Not so useless now eh?
Re: Totally missing the point
"As I said, it needs to be installed or supported by a technical-elite."
What your post actually tells us, is that you've never had to install Windows from scratch... that's what it says.
I would suspect that the problem with a Mission to Mars isn't getting there, surviving the trip and all that. We could do that with technology available to us today!
The real challenge for a trip to Mars involving a landing... is the return trip. We can get to Mars, we can land on Mars... but landing on Mars with something that would allow you to subsequently take off again and come back home... THAT is the real challenge.
Damn you Register
Damn YOU! For leading me to an article with a nice picture and removing the picture once I get there!!!!!
The answer to the question at the end of the title of this article simply resides in the very first word of said title...
Re: Unsurprising really..
What people don't seem to understand is that Elop is NOT Nokia's CEO... he never was, never will be, was never supposed to be.
Ballmer is Nokia's CEO. Elop is Microsoft's VP of the Nokia Division.
I'm not a baby boomer.
I've been reading e-books since 2001 (on a Palm-pilot back then)
And it never occurred to me to use anything other than a tablet of smart-phone to read ebooks.
Buying a single purpose device is such a waste...
Something about "hoisted" and "petards" come to mind...
Re: I would imagine...
That is in fact exactly what happened.
He was offerend a job by that software company yesterday, and his phone has been ringing off the hook from security companies wanting to hire him...
This story is a bit late on it's news apparently.
Re: Glaring omission
The Difference Engine
Re: Finkelstein old-fashioned, irrelevant?
Stephen Elop isn't worth mentioning because he has ALWAYS remained a Microsoft exec...
He holds the TITLE of CEO... but he really isn't one.
Any "Worst CEO" list that doesn't mention Steve Ballmer somewhere in it's top five isn't worth the pixels it's projected on.
The one and ONLY reason why Window 8 is selling "as well as" Windows 7 is ... you can't buy a computer without it!
I would be willing to bet anything that if the still gave consumers a choice... Windows 7 would outsell Window8 3 to 1...
Sorry but without a school diploma of some kind, or some kind of certification from some morganization... no manager will even look twice at your CV...
At the moment... you are still just a user... sorry.
What's with all the comments about Elop not being a good CEO...
Elop was NEVER a CEO... he was always and remains a Microsoft Executive.
The fact that he's an employee of Microsoft who happens to be running another company for them doesn't change what his actual job is...
Re: Google's Evil ?
"Bullshit. out of those three only Google is currently under investigation for monopoly abuse."
Yeah... and only Microsoft has actually been convicted of it.
Algorithms are math.
Math is not patentable... period
" creating something new if you can have your idea duplicated in seconds."
Yeah... because "thinking" about making a device that is a rectangel with rounded corners takes BEEELIONS and YEARS in development that NOPBODY could EVER have thought of...
Re: So... who's suing Apple?
Prior Art does not equal Previously patented.
It just means it already existed, patented or not... someone else created it before and has made it publicly available/Viewable.
You cannot be granted exclusive rights to something someone else has already done and showed to the public.
That is the basis for Prior Art.
IMO every single computer "design" patent should have been refused, or should be cancelled simply because there are literally hundreds of prior art example from just about every science fiction book or television show since the 50's...
Error number one.
Samsung DID ask the Juror about his previous court experience, and about his impartiality... he apparently lied.
Error number two.
The juror himself has stated (confirmed by the other jurors) what arguments he used to convince the other jurors of Samsung being guilty... His arguments were so so flawed they were beyond wrong! Therefore, he convinced the jury using very VERY faulty "logic"... By THEIR OWN ADMISSION.
The judge SPECIFICALLY instructed the Jury they they were NOT to calculate damages in a punitive way. Damage was supposed to be granted based on ACTUAL lost value... the jury, influenced by the juror, by their own admission... imposed punitive damages... wtf!?
The jury SO didn't even pay attention ton their decision that they declared one product non infringing... but STILL decided to award damages on that "non" infringement...
And you want to call that JUSTICE???
I don't own a Samsung OR an Apple device of any kind, and I don't give a rats ass who wins... but come ON!!! You can't seriously stand there and argue that there nothing wrong here!!!
" Amazon are discounting the books and selling at a loss,"
Really... eBooks... at a loss???
That's a new one.
Re: Mixed Feelings
It's not mostly about the start menu.
It's about... I have a powerful PC, with a nice, bright, large 22" screen....
Metro--- full screen single window...
Re: heres an idea
To be perfectly honest... Gnome and Unity on Linux are in fact... just as bad as Metro is...
I've been postponing updating from Fedora 12 for ages because of that sh1te...
Re: Difficulty vs annoyance
"an open mind and a mmodicum of intelligence it is *really* easy to use"
Using this kind of "argument" to belittle people who have real, serious gripes with the new UI actually makes you sound like a stupid, retarded, arrogant a$$ h0le...
Metro is NOT intuitive, NOT practical, NOT a step forward on non touch-screen devices and users should be allowed to completely opt out of it if they want to.
You enjoy it... good for you... but really... liking Windows 8 more than others does NOT make you... smarter.
And obviously... it doesn't make you nicer either.
Windows 8 is a schizophrenic piece of crap, forever stuck trying to satisfy both desktop and tablet users and not even coming close to achieving either.
Without a touch screen, Metro is useless... if you like it, good for you but you are the exception so stop assuming you're better than everyone else by telling people to "grow up", "accept change" etc etc... . Don't fscking act like everyone who hates is just isn't as cool as you... that just makes you an ass.
Metro doesn't even come close to filling any parts of what I NEED to be able to do on a computer.
Classic desktop... yes, it could be great... IF I could set it, forget it, and never EVER have to go back to metro ever again... EXCEPT maybe on a tablet. but NOOOOO.... half the time I need to do anything, like the Net, or a metro app, of system tools... WHAM! I am violently yanked out of my environment and into the Metro one... which I do NOT want to see on my desktop.
It just plain sucks.
If you love it... good for you. But please stop trying to convince me that I do too....
Re: Gnome 3 is maligned. Gnome3 is a new interface that has great potential
"that to change and learn a new better paradigm "
THAT is your problem right there... and theirs too.
IT WAS IN NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM, A BETTER PARADIGM NO MATTER HOW MANY MILLIONS OF TIMES YOU, OR THEY... OR MICROSOFT REPEATS IT!!!!.
Gnome 3 was/is a failed experiment.
It was barely tolerable at BEST and a piece of unusable crap for most.
You could claim to invent a better wheel.
If the minute it comes out people call it crap and everybody hates it... maybe... JUST MAYBE... you should have to freaking HONESTY and HUMILITY to ADMIT that maybe YOU were WRONG!!!!
You know what happens when developers refuse to admit they were wrong?
People go away, the brains walk out, the money dries up and the software ends up as a dead end on an old Visio drawing in a history book somewhere... that's what...
WOW!!! Just... WOW!
So the older you get, the older you look.
And the older you look... the more chances you have a dying of a heart attack???
Next thing you know, they'll be telling us that you can loose weigh by eating a sensible diet and exercising!
Re: @ Robert Long 1
Funny how a story about censorship turns into a debate about pubic hair...
What are you guys? Like.... 14?