Posts by Eadon
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Re: MS Office 365 Security / Legal / FAIL
"Utter rubbish, if you can't get MS and non-MS systems to play nicely together"
@AC18:26 - countless examples of MS embracing and extending and extinguishing competitors by not being compatible.
Examples - MS Office does not play nicely with ODF. MS Windows refuses to read Linux file systems, yet Linux can read windows file systems. MS sued Tom Tom and countless others via FAT file system patents. MS paid SCO 60 million bucks to sue Linux vendors. MS ensured that DR DOS programs wouldn't run correctly on DOS. MS has ensured that Android users can't use MS Office. MS have obfuscated their network protocols (Windows has at least four!) and obfuscated their Win 32 API's, their file formats and various protocols just to frustrate interoperability with external systems. MS refuse to reassure the Mono guys that they are indemnified from patent threats against .NET software patents. And so on, there are countless examples of MS systems being hostile to non-MS systems. Their latest lock-in tactic is the MS Store (admittedly a copy of the App Store, in terms of closedness) that attempts to make life as difficult as possible for developers to use existing code for Windows 8 development.
The problem for MS is that this walled garden strategy can back fire. There are many users now - including Execs as well as normal workers, who prefer Mac Books, iPads, Android tabs and stuff for work. And geeks like me are more productive on Linux. For an enterprise to support that lot, Windows Server is useless. The enterprise will use Linux servers instead. And, in fact, the enterprise may quickly realise that, you know what? Windows is simply not needed for 90% of work. Where it is needed for the occasional app, a VM can be used or a few standalone Windows laptops for the bean counters.
Evolution of IT...
Let's see:
Thin client (mainframe/terminal) -> client server (fat client) -> thin client (DAAS etc)
Lot's of money to be made! Extending the AAS metaphor into radical new directions, I shall be pleased to sell you *BAAS systems and get rich quick.
*Bullshit As A Service
Re: MS Office 365 Security / Legal / FAIL
There has been a fair bit of gnashing of teeth by my friends, the SysAdmins here, most of them hiding behind AC because they are not confident in their proclaimations. Which is astute, as the said proclamations are have a service level of five nines of bullshit uptime.
So I turn reluctantly back to MS Office 365. The arguments are circular. I need Office for Outlook. I need Outlook for exchange. I need exchange for a calendar. I need Office 365 to look at my calendar. I am not very smart, so I am using Sharepoint to slow down everybody's productivity. These excuses are what I am hearing from the Sys Admins here.
Good luck trying to maintain that lot as MS keeps raising licence costs and pushing more and more subscriptions in your face. You are being screwed by MS, the lot of you. You do not know it because all this MS crap is the only thing you know.
If you actually analysed what enterprises really need, and small businesses too, they can get along perfectly well on Linux-based, either 100% or in conjunction with Android and Mac based systems.
All this hostility to Linux is just the Windows Sys admin "NO" mentality. All this praising of Office 365 and other crap like Sharepoint is just rationalisation of your own pathetic inability to understand what real IT is, and what real people want from it.
You are not Gods, sys admins, you are servants. Be modest and stop throwing your masters money to the USA into the pockets of Redmond. Install open source systems and EARN your keep!
WINDOWS FANATICS EPIC FAIL
Re: MS Office 365 Security / Legal / FAIL
"How do I do that with Libre Office? You just can't."
Actually, yes you can do all of those things (or equivalent, as in the case of Sharepoint server) using Linux, and at lower cost and more securely. Further more, Linux interoperates well with non-Microsoft systems, where as MS systems do not play nice with non-MS systems by Microsoft's design. In other words, Linux, unlike Windows / Office 365 - does not make you a locked in prisoner.
Why am I even responding to low-IQ AC's?
Re: MS Office 365 Security / Legal / FAIL
@AC - You're a sys admin aren't you?
Maybe I do, maybe I don't know about "Enterprise systems". Actually I do, I design them. In any case, if you don't believe me, Munich council knows about Enterprise systems. They moved to Linux/Open Office and have, to date, saved 11 million Euros - 23 million compared to 34 million.
Think about it, a saving of 11 million Euros to date and more savings to come every year. Projects of that size are enterprise class. Most people employed in enterprises can get their jobs done with nothing more than a tablet. Only your bean counters and project managers, those kind of people, need anything particularly sophisticated.
MS Office 365 Security / Legal / FAIL
"Indeed, from a security and legal compliance standpoint most businesses are far better off with Office 365 than they ever would be with their own offerings"
Two scenarios.
Scenario 1)
Linux Mint desktop + LibreOffice. No licence fees. No licence management needed. No risk of being audited. No bills. Nothing but to pay a sys admin or a consultant if you can't install and maintain these user friendly stable systems yourself. + maybe a Linux server for file sharing, or some such.
Usability 9/10 TCO 10/10 Security 9/10. Safety re Legal compliance 10/10. Interoperability 10/10
Total: 48 / 50
Scenario 2)
MS Windows + MS Office 365 - Licence fees per seat or whatever. High licence costs. Horrible risk of being audited. High sys-admin overhead. Low security. Virus vulnerability. High support costs. Closed, proprietary formats and protocols.
Usability 3/10 TCO 2/10 Security 4/10. Safety re Legal compliance 2/10. Interoperability 2/10
Total 13/50
If you're a small business and you want to save money and don't want to get burned or employ a team of expensive sys admins, don't take advice from a Sys Admin. Sys admins have an ulterior motive for installing high-maintenance systems. That keeps a sys admin in a job after all. (in the same way a garage mechanic likes unreliable cars).
Windows / Office 365 TCO FAIL
Re: They're both right.
That XML is an "arcane, in-efficient, bloated pile of crap" does not bode badly for its success. The web is based on it, and people are continuingly attempting to write applications in it using HTML 4 and 5 (albeit technically HTML is not pure XML, ignoring XHTML). It's a horrible format to write apps in, life would be easier if the world standardised more on Java, with some good old imperative sanity.
You'll not hear me say that Java is perfect, but, with JavaFX as the UI framework (replacing Swing), it's a damned sight better than HTML/XML/CSS/Javascript/AJAX when it comes to writing apps. (JavaFX does actually optionally allow the use of CSS)
XML does have legitimate uses, which are essentially a format for storing hierarchical data or config, but it's overuse in programming frameworks is annoying. The main reason is that (other than performance) when things stop working, it's difficult to diagnose the problems with XML based systems, the error messages (if any) are often intractable.
XACML - extremely niche
This XACML standard doesn't seem to be significant, it's definitely obscure. The open standards have the momentum.
In general, the whole identity/SSO area is SNAFU.
Fake flying car
It's not a real flying car, it's an aeroplane with car tyres. A real flying car is jet powered. And runs Linux of course (IT ANGLE).
All units are connected
If they're related to the kilogram, then it's a devil to continue to rely on a bunch of atoms for that standardisation, the kilo ideally needs to be defined in terms fundamental constants such as the observed speed of light.
Nice, in a geeky way, to see graphene show up in this article.
Re: Being critical of Microsoft... - comes at a price.
@Super Hans "You might not like British Gas as an energy supplier but it's not up to you to tell schools where they get their electricity"
It's not up to me, sadly, but if school were wasting hundreds of millions on proprietary, closed electricity that teach kids idiotic crap (here's how to use a british gas ribbon etc.), when superior, free electricity alternatives exist with a lower maintenance overheads, then one would have good reason to complain, it is our tax that goes to waste here.
Re: " selling 100 million copies of a product is a good thing"
@JustaKOS - the market penetration fo Windows 8 is approx 4%. About twice that of Linux. Not bad for a monopolist after 9 months...
Almost anyone that buys a PC has bought an MS Windows 8 licence, it's called the MS Tax.
Re: Where's Eadon?
Yes but not before 4am. My head hurts...
Re: Being critical of Microsoft... - comes at a price.
"Is SO easy"
It isn't. Look at my experiences. I tell the truth about it and am downvoted, mocked, insulted, and so forth. None of this matters of course.
But try persuading schools, government etc to stop spending our tax GBP on MS and you will meet an incredulous reaction.
Snowweb got there first
Good, means that others are SEEING the reality!
"help from touch-enabled Microsoft Windows 8 running on touch-enabled Intel Ultrabooks"
- Like MS "helped" Nokia?
The PC market is not going away but it will be a fraction of its former size, whist MS attempts to exploit that market to foist METRO (modern UI) upon the userbase, TROJAN style, to get the suckers to buy MS's mobile merchandise.
*YOU* ARE BEING USED / FOOLED BY MS!
Dwarfs that collapse
"are the aging remnants of middle-sized stars that have cooled and collapsed upon themselves"
Replace "stars" with operating systems with and you have your...
WIN 8 IT ANGLE FAIL
Re: DRM is NOT what the web is about!
@gazzton - it's not as off topic as you think- MS are one of the members/lobbyists behind this move - you can guarantee it.
Where there is digital evil, MS are not far behind...
Re: It has to happen - No it does not.
@tentimes - we do not need DRM, why the hell do we? The RIAA and MPAA etc need DRM to limit what you can do with stuff you have paid for.
If people want DRM, then they can install a plugin for it. It does not belong in a browser. It's like building something into your legs to stop you walking unless some corporation gets a monthly subscription. It's about crippling the web.
Re: DRM
@Khaptain - what village idiot thinks every W3C compliant browser should be obliged to implement something that makes that browser LESS useful?
DRM matters a lot when it is at the heart of what the Web is. I do not want it in my browser, this can only lead to some horrible unintended consequences, nothing good will come of it.
DRM is NOT what the web is about!
Stallman is correct when he says that the W3C have a duty not to shove DRM into the web. The point of the web is that it is open. The W3C are setting a terrible standard where they say that it is OK to RESTRICT what users can do on the web / their browser.
What the f*** is wrong with the W3C? They are selling out. This is the most shocking sell out since MS stacked the ISO to push through the laughable MS Office OOXML "standard".
Informative ? ?
"Techies at satirical news outfit The Onion have posted an informative explanation"
So not a satirical explanation then?
Re: Rule of Thumb
"If Microsoft even had 1 % of their user base complaining"
The Stockholm Syndrome has ensured that those still loyal to MS have been conditioned to love the abuse that is heaped upon them.
The smart ones jumped ship to... Android, iGadgets, Google, Linux, etc.
Re: Interesting...
@Rafael L "The people here didn't talk anything with sense. That's why we're downvoting."
I trust you downvoted yourself.
Re: Android is not a saviour - Oh Yes It IS!
"Nokia jumping to Android would be a good thing?"
Slapping on Android is common sense. Better to have a share of 70% of the market than to have the same share of 3% of the market.
Slapping on ANYTHING but Win Pho 8 is common sense. Nokia backed the ONLY burning platform there is!
Also your phones wouldn't be a bad JOKE.
NOKIA BURNING PLATFORM FAIL
So Fugly it's mother would feed it with a catapult
Nokia, forget whipping the dead horse, get out of bed with MS and put something sexy and/or practical on your phones. ANYTHING actually would sell better on your Hardware - Symbian was for starters. Even Win CE!!!
WIN-PHO-8 Win-FUGLY-8 FAIL
Re: This is just soooooo wrong in so many ways.....
@Khaptain "This is just soooooo wrong in so many ways....."
Are you talking about putting Win Pho 8 on phones? Let's hope Nokia gets the memo.
Re: just distribute scripts for cleaning
@CrysTalK "just distribute scripts for cleaning"
apt-get install LinuxMint
20 minutes later - perfectly good, fast and secure PC.
Re: Expensive reports
@Mephistro - "A new variant of the ChebwaccaDefense virus. :^)"
ha ha!
+1
Re: Shall we chalk that one up to another Windows security FAIL?
@Lord Elpuss "but massively, hugely beside the point here"
OK, here's a salient and massive "point" just for your sorry ass.
Microsoft's salesmen say to governments, Use Windows, it has a really low TCO - but in reality the TCO of Windows is enormous. And this story sums it up nicely. The TCO of Windows is $billions higher for governments than MS salesmen will dare admit. Where do you think MS makes its profits? Win 8 desktops?
Munich have the right idea - GET RID OF WINDOWS from govt and tax-payer paid for systems. The TCO of Linux is far lower, even if the civil servants have to get used to life with the freaking ribbon :)
If those PC's had Linux, they'd be perfectly fine.
Re: Interesting...
That's a key tactic - silently downvote those that disagree with your paymaster.
Re: IE6 is being patched?
@AC - "even microsofted want it killed off, so why's is being patched?"
Vendor lockin - which in the case of IE is non-standard HTML and also ActiveX.
Re: Come on wintards get rebooting your servers!
FFS - AC's make a handle and USE IT!
Re: Buy new harddisks. Install Eadon, I mean Linux....
@Destroy All Monsters You are welcome to install me. I'm available to the highest bidder. Which at the moment, admittedly, is free.
Re: WIN PHO 8 PANTS
@RyokuMas Be all grown up? On the Register? On a Friday? On an article about knickers for phones?
WTF LOL FAIL
Put thee a pint in your belly to cheer yerself, for thou art a miserable bustard! Okay?
Re: Hotmail veteran
MS had already ruined Hotmail over the years, but now they have practically destroyed it. Doesn't play nice with Android? Quell Surprise!
I remember when MS first bought Hotmail, which ran on UNIX. They attempted to port the system to Windows and they failed. It was a PR nightmare for MS at a time when they were revered. After that MS became an ever-increasing joke in the server space (at least for those in the know). Fast forward to the Danger mobile-data-loss SideStep and Azure certificate cloud offline for a week calamities and one can see nothing has changed. MS is good at marketing, bad at engineering.
Coming back to the outlook site, - talk about ugly! And they still haven't fixed the spam filter.
Windows 8, MS Feels *good*. Glad someone does...
"We feel good that we've listened and looked at all of the customer feedback. We are being principled, not stubborn"
Give yourself a pat on the back, it must be great feeling good about people telling you that you suck!
Come on wintards get rebooting your servers!
Calling all Windows sysadmins, get snappy clicking on reboot buttons!!
HOLE-FILLED TOY OPERATING SYSTEM WIN FAIL
WIN PHO 8 PANTS
Vast baggy bloomers with FUGLY brightly coloured STAINS.
But some dirty old men like that kind of thing. Win Pho 8 I mean.
Shall we chalk that one up to another Windows security FAIL?
Virus prone operating system ends up getting viruses.
WIN SEC FAIL
Headline from HELL
But it will probably please your average iGimcrack owner.
Eadon has been saying this since 1999
Open Data. Open Standards. Open Source. Govts must insist on it. Eventually my wisdom filters down to the politicians.
Of course this Obama guy promised the moon, but does he ever deliver?
PROPRIETARY STANDARDS FAIL
Re: Antimatter and anti-gravity anyone?
@Destoroy All Monsters Your argument is incoherent and illogical. If the Weak Nuclear Force treats matter differently from Anti-matter, then why is it so inconceivable that the same may be true of the Gravity force (or pseudo force)?
What is your PhD in, Astrology?
Linux - the engineer's server operating system
Google, IBM, Amazon, FB, Twitter, Salesforce - all these guys use Linux for robust, serverside computing with a low TCO.
Why? Because it is the best of class OS out there. Open Source solutions are often stronger than anything else. the best solution.
If the UK govt had any sense, it would follow suit and insist on open source systems such as Linux to be used on all servers, and preferably, on all desktops.
Re: MSFT the Value Destroyer
@TheVogon - "Once Lync integrates closely with Yammer and Skype"
Sooo, let's get this straight - MS has bought 3 similar solutions, four if you include messenger. WHY? Apple's strategy was stronger, they built their own solution and it cost them only about half a billion to do so.
MS don't have the ability to deliver anymore, so they buy buy buy. And the result is, predictably, a complete mess, with each camp fighting internal political battles for turf.
Re: @eadon
@AC - did you enjoy your little treat AC?
Re: Another firm ruined then.
Don't be fooled by the bean counters. Mr Coward, Google have crushed MS in Mobile (as have Apple). And now Google are entering the desktop market. MS are going to get hammered in the desktop market sooner rather than later.
