182 posts • joined 27 Jul 2009
It didn't cost the mining company much at all, as it wasn't trying to sell itself at the time.
It may have cost some others something though, as is mentioned in the story.
...including the Migration and development costs, it has cost them €30 million more than upgrading to a current Microsoft stack...
Microsoft is very good as getting migration costs etc. added in to its "price comparisons". So it's only cheaper because Microsoft have already screwed you over in the past.
Where I worked I saw one (many years ago).about switching to Unix workstations. The cost include running a Windows PC for all such users anyway(!!), so it was not surprising that it cost more. If you had taken out the Windows PCs and licensing costs it would have been cheaper....
...for a whole world of pain.
Are you suggesting that being with Microsoft is not painful?
The problem is caused by MS ensuring that you lock yourself in to the proprietary (and often unnecessary) "features" of their products. If you avoid those then migrations would be relatively cheap and painless.
...hardly anyone has gone down that route since.
As has been noted elsewhere, Toulouse has done so, and the fact has been reported by the European Commission
Of course, that means the Euro-sceptic Conservatives will do the opposite.
No doubt a similar poll on "do you believe in evolution" or "do you believe in the Big bang" would show a similar disbelief amongst those who've never bothered (or been able) to actually look at the actual work behind the ideas.
So the result is vaguely interesting, but nothing to do with any reality of the ides behind the question. It really just shows that people will suspect governments of using any excuse to raise taxes.
Re: time for MS to
and Microsoft already support the latest ODF version.
Microsoft is a company. I can't use a company on my computer,
As for their products, I believe their latest offering does provide such support. But most people and businesses will not have their latest version, so such support will only be available if I and they pay yet more money to Microsoft (and the licensing options for the latest version mean we will need to pay them at a higher rate than in the past).
With LibreOffce I can run the latest version all of the time for no additional cost. And so can everyone else.
Re: This is still a thing?
The UK consumer has the tax hidden from them - I wonder why?
Most (all?) of my receipts list VAT as a separate item, so it's only hidden if you choose not to look.
And I can work out 1/6th of something in my head anyway.
Re: Surely the important thing here . . .
...yet again beer provided the answer.
Good job that no-one can patent that business process!
Re: This should tell you
...and it does not answer to the people.
You mean it doesn't answer to you. How do you know that the majority of people in the UK don't support this?
The Government is expected to be answerable for security issues, which you are not, so it's not surprising that your views differ.
So, what about saying what you would do, rather than just things which you would not do?
Typos can also cause problems.
I once intended to type "rm *.o".
But obviously left the shift key on after the "*".
Took me a while to figure out why I now had no files in the directory expect one empty one called "o". Fortunately I kept backups, even then.
An since then I've had an alias for "rm" that runs "rm -i"'
Re: Very unclear
That is actually really easy to prevent if you write your shell scripts properly.
Precisely. It's what "set -f" is for.
Re: Not unexpected
eclipse QuickOffice in functionality
No, they don't. They force you to store the document on Google Drive. QuickOffice let you access anything, anywhere on your own device.
Does Amazon care?
But surely Amazon runs everything via Luxembourg anyway (their accountant thinks so), so why would this worry them....
Re: anyone who writes Perl ...
Depends how it's been written.
So it's a bit like English in that respect.
Some English is tortuous to read, but Shakespeare's prose can be poetry.
Personally, I feel all trades should have an minimum delay.
Or perhaps there should be a minimum time before you can sell what you've bought? To encourage trading on business performance, rather than network performance.
Re: @Chris Miller
One of mankind's finest inventions was credit, because this enabled society to get richer by using wealth that temporarily was not being used by its owner.
As I understand it, it enables some of society to get richer by using wealth which has not yet been created! And the problems occur when the future arrives at the present and is not what was expected by the past.
but many companies will be in a postion to leverage the same interface
Most people where I worked used 24+" screens (often multiple ones). I doubt that any 'phone will provide the same interface as that.
Re: The socks have it
there are no log()'s of negative values
log(-1) == exp(iπ)·
It's a way of writing Euler's Identity (look on Wikipedia).
and 40 years after the year it is named after
Wow! How the last 10 years have flown by....
The system (democracy) demands that politicians think and act in the short term.
Democracy itself doesn't demand this. Parliamentary Democracy as practised in the UK (and much of The West) does, though.
Re: so every new domain/user generates another server farm, eh?
What? Why would you use a "redirection record"? The closest to that in real parlance is a CNAME
I suspect the reference is to an NS record. Which you will need for a new domain, and will be a sort-of redirect.
Since each of these "generate new IP numbers"
NO!! They generate a name. No numbers in sight. And it is the (IPv4) addresses (which are a sub-set of the 32-bit integers) which are running out, not any names.
And, given that you can apply sub-domains to those names you could raise your 38^63 to any convenient small integer too. Just don't expect anyone to type it. And it still won't generate any more numbers - only names.
I still have a printout of a FORTRAN program I ran on Imperial College and ULCC's CDCs in the '70s
60-bit word lengths...not a byte in sight.
Re: They will have to switch to 3/4G manually
...apply a dummynet delay of 4 seconds to traffic combined with whatever horrid jitter curve you can think of (Linux still does not have that feature 10 years past it appearing in BSD).
I think you'll find it does, via iptables/iproute. e.g.
Re: My network...
You said it yourself, by not blocking something, you are allowing it.
You are blocking the type of hardware connecting. You aren't blocking the data that gets accessed once connected.
..would be embodied in an eight-year-old child - social understanding
i.e.before they get an interest in IT hardware.
Based on the timing....
....presumably some chap in Spain will be checking about his entries from last century?
Re: 1 down...
...now open the Postcode database please
But isn't that now owned by a private company?
Re: What would be really nice
I still don't understand why a staffing problem meant it couldn't stop. Surely as long as it's got a driver everyone else is optional.
No. It needs a guard too, as he's in charge of the train (the driver is in charge of the engine).
Re: Good Thing (TM)
Holy crapsticks, I didn't realise UK trains were bad.,
The ones I get seem to be OK.
The German train service makes the free Deutsche Bahn app
Eurail do an Android app that has the entire European timetable available for perusal off-line (you only need to go on line if you want a map).
D-Bahn also do tickets from London to anywhere in Germany (Eurostar to Brussels, then onwards) for €59 (limited availability, book well in advance). I'm off on Friday...
Re: When will MS get it?
That Win 8 is a disaster, not just for them but for the whole PC industry.
If the whole PC industry has been relying only on Microsoft, then it deserves anything it gets for running a single-supplier "plan".
My (limited) use of Win8.1 seems to show it's OK - just use the desktop part all of the time.
As for Red Flag Linux's demise - HP have stepped in:
Re: Return of Hermes
And spend the next few centuries trying to convince the world that they did it by themselves!
Just get Hollywood to make a movie showing the US doing it all. Job done.
Re: Late to the game
at the moment google now is telling me that I can walk over a mile in less than 1 minute.
My Nokia 'hone maps once told me a 210 mile journey (in the UK) would take 2h 40m. That's an average speed of 80 mph, and given that I was starting in the middle of Rochdale so had 10 miles of local roads before I reached the motorway, and another 20 miles along country roads at the other end, I have no idea what speed they were goading me to get up to.
And do pathologists now become coffinboffins?
..which Translate rather less than helpfully renders as "Love to engage in machine."
Re: Navigation buttons locked to address bar
Thanks for the link to that sanity restorer.
I now have text on my icons again (I can neve remember which is which by the "picture"), and have the add-on bar at the bottom again.
It also allows me to have an Additional Toolbar, so I can move the url bar into one of its own. Without this extension it seems to be locked to the Menu Bar.
Re: Stress in my role is from not being allowed to tell the truth
The devs provided me with the error message they were seeing.
Could have been worse. I was usually told, "It's not working", with no indication of how to reproduce the failure, nor any indication of how they knew it was failing.
But what does it actually create??
We really are just noting correlations then trading upon them until it doesn't make money for us any more.
The "us" here being the bankers/traders. The trading doesn't create any "new" wealth.
Obviously, the spread has to be at least the tick size....
No, it doesn't. With multiple traders there will be lots of them in at different current prices. If the tick size were less than the spread this would just mean that some traders could not in the market for that commodity at the moment.
...fixed costs are paid for out of more trades, so the margin on each can be lower.
But the number of trades is higher, so the cost of all trades needn't change much, so you probably aren't "saving" $400m a day, you've just pushed up the trade volume to one with a similar overall cost to the wealth-creating economy.
Re: Well that's all well and good, but...
... and from there there's no sign of the fabled 8.1 Update (1?) in Windows Update
It was there for me, although it was not set to be installed automatically - I had to select it manually.
Odd for something that is to shortly become a requirement.
All employees will have access to the same capabilities and tools,
Pen and paper allowed that.
What tying in to a proprietary product rather than a set of (open) document standards does is limit your capabilities to those that your selected vendor deigns to provide, and when (not if) your vendor's business plan means that it changes what it supplies, then you will suffer.
That's a bug. not a feature...
“... it is safe to ignore these messages because Hyper-V protocols are implemented to be backward compatible ...”
So, the message is actually a bug, and should be fixed in the next patch update (tomorrow?).
Anyone taking bets on that happening?
Re: Enter the metric pole?
Which brings us onto an acre - one furlong by one chain. The size of a footie pitch.
That's some weird footie pitch!
The size used to be 50 to 100 yards wide and 100 to 130 (150?) yards long, and it had to be longer than it was wide. (Pitches for international matches were more constrained). (It's now defined in metric, I think).
A 22 by 220 yard pitch would be the result of sticking two pitches together along the goal-line and only using up to the side-edge of the penalty area.
And even the minimum size pitch would be > 1 acre. A "normal" professional league one is around 1.8 acres.
Re: Since when ...
The -ize spelling is a quirk of Oxford's style, having its origins in -ize predating -ise.
Stuff Oxford - it predates it as it originates from the Greek -izein, so is etymologically correct (or better) See Eric Partridge's "Usage and Abusage".
Meanwhile, what the hell is "scientifical method"? Scientific is already an adjective, so what does the extra "al" add?
Study A, then comment on B?
The study looked only at the Indian Ocean.
So the comments about the Atlantic could all still be true.
Re: I'd love to get a couple.
...specially designed for use in Android smartphones
So now they just need to persuade the 'phone manufacturers to provide µSD card slots.
Re: Every household?
I remember(?) receiving a leaflet about NHS data sharing some time last summer??
Does any-one know what this leaflet actually looks like?
Planning, what planning?
“As long as there’s a plan in place, then one year of custom support is a good idea,” Foxall said
Wrong, Foxall: totally wrong!
If there were a plan in place then one year of custom support would never have been needed.
Re: A page from Google they can keep
What I would like to see is a sync feature that works on a LAN (e.g., for synchronising different desktop and personal devices) without third party intervention.
I have this set-up. using the documentation and code supplied by, let's see..., Mozilla!
Finally, I have doubts about Maude's policy to use csv files for spreadsheets
*.ods for spreadsheets, so I doubt that csv files are meant for spreadsheets - it's meant for data. The idea being that if all you have is data then csv is sufficient.
Re: How on earth...
Surely one does a pilot/proof of concept then build it up to a full system
That's technical thinking.
"Real Business Leader" thinking is to make your project as big as possible, so that you are seen as "Being Important". Then, once you have the budget you have to spend it. It may all fail, but in the meantime you'll have been paid a lot. And with good planning you'll have moved on to another "Big Project" before the failure is noticed, so won't get any (or not much) of the blame.
Ordered by Cameron, the tosser who leaves his kids in the pub and drives off.
I sympathise with him for that. My wife once left our son in the butcher's (in his pushchair). Arrived with pushchair and two daughters attached - left with two daughters in hand. It's easily done. When you don't feel they are in danger you stop worrying.
But getting more back on thread (re: the rape seed oil above) my wife also mentions a car journey her friend had with her mum (aunt/gran?) on board. As they passed a field carpeted in a yellow flowering crop she piped up with,
"Look at that field of..." then paused, searching for the word...
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