* Posts by Hans 1

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FORK ME! Uber hauls GitHub into court to find who hacked database of 50,000 drivers

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Re: Heh

>I thought there was hard evidence it was 192.168.0.1 they were looking for.

Better: 127.168.0.1

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Microsoft working on 'Nano' version of Windows Server for web-scale ops

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Windows Server Nano ???

Please fix Server core before thinking even smaller ... hardly any non-MS enterprise apps run on server core.

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Re: Wow

>If they can do it properly so that you can cut it back quite dramatically (e.g. run a few undemanding services in 128MB memory and a 1GB disk image) then that would be qute welcome.

<jokeAlert>Does nano have a footprint of only 9 Gb ? That would already be pretty impressive for Windows.</jokeAlert>

>I suspect what we will actually end up with is a dependency graph that goes "You need feature X. That needs features A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, and L installing as prerequisites." If it goes too far along those lines it loses its usefulness and becomes more marketing fluff, so it'll be interesting to see how it actually works in practice.

Indeed, the whole point ... especially when you consider that a lot of enterprise apps do not run on server core, will it be worse on Windows nano ? I guess so ... Compare that to truly modular OS' (cf icon) where the database server's OS takes up mere megabytes, where you can install "X, along with A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, and L" with a one-liner ... sweet dreams.

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Elementary, my dear penguin: It's the second beta of Freya

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>Suse

Yeah, they committed ritual suicide with the Redmond patent deal. A bunch of traitors ... I used to love their distro.

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>>And don't forget, you're being asked to pay for beta quality software at this point. Even Microsoft doesn't do that.

>*COUGH* Vista *Cough*

*COUGH* Win95*Cough* NT4*Cough* Win98*Cough* Win98Me*Cough*XP*Cough* Vista *Cough*Win 8*Cough*

Fixed that for you.

BTW, who in their right mind thinks Gnome 3.x is not alpha quality ?

Alpha quality usually means it is not feature complete, beta quality means it is feature complete but may have undesired/undocumented features (aka bugs). Now, in Gnome 3.x, go look at the desktop theme control panel app, or, say, the ... power saving control panel app ... now, go back to Gnome 2 and do the same ... yes, Gnome 3 has many settings missing in those two apps - oh, it has a cute illustration for remaining battery power, great looking, sure, useful ? No!

Xp was alpha quality when it first shipped, Vista was and still is pre-alpha ... so is 7 and 8.

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C’mon Lenovo. Superfish hooked, but Pokki Start Menu still roaming free

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The other day I was handed a malware infested windows box, I cleaned it, sent it back ... I was invited over because not 10 days later the machine was in the same state ... in fact, they installed an "app store" ala pokki which installs known safe apps such as vlc, openoffice, patched with malware/adware etc ... when they got their pc back, they installed the crap app store again ... I think I will give them ubuntu next or linux mint.

The other thing is, even if you google for say winrar or vlc, you never see rarlab.com or videolan.org in the top 5 results, it is always softonic or some other bullsh*t website such as zdnet/downloads.com ... these also "bundle goodies" with their downloads ... even sourceforge does it now ... Windows ? WTF, no thanks!

You really deserve the tramp icon, now.

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Re: Crapware or bloatware, you say tomato

PCdecrapifier removes crap to put its own on there ... ;-)

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Didn't the Left once want the WORKERS to get all the dosh?

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Deeply Appaling Piece Again, Tim Worstall

The sad thing, Tim, is that you are unaware of THE most important concept you need to analyze historical events, it is called "historical context". Sadly, it seems to be totally absent from British/American curricula in schools, I wonder what use history courses are if you are not taught this really fundamental concept ...

At the time when Marx and Engels wrote their works, workers were being exploited 6 days a week, 10 to 14 hours a day. Absolutely no security equipment, no healthcare, very poor accommodation. Young children were working in mines, for example, all that for a pay of misery ... I could go on and on.

Were it not for the socialists/marxists, we would probably still be working our balls off in mines and factories, together with our children, 10 hours a day, 6 days a week. We would have no healthcare, no paid leave, and a salary of misery.

Now, you are probably going to argue that in some/many countries, these advances (healthcare, paid leave ...) were introduced by conservatives ... again, ignoring the historical context ... in the 20th century, especially the 30's and 40's, the leftist parties gained considerable momentum. The conservatives had to react where they were in power. You see, I have had this discussion with many an anglo-saxon from both sides of the pond ...

Another thing you could have mentioned against Marx and Engels would have been the genocide of an entire population, they called out for that, they were also against International Jewry. Again, if you use this concept called "historical context", you can say that in Prussia as well as many other German states at the time (Yes, there were approx 113 prior to 1870, iirc) most if not all banks were owned by Jews, and the banks were funding the factories with money made on the back of the workers. Now, don't call me anti-Jew, again, historical context, William II of Prussia allowed many Jews from across Europe into Prussia, they brought a lot of funds with them because for centuries, Christians were not allowed to do business with money, Jews were the only "legal" bankers at the time. They stayed and thrived across the German states. So when Marx was calling against Jews, he was actually calling against banks.

BTW, I think the whole point in clause 4 of the Labour party constitution is a fair share of the capital produced by the company for all employees. In the 70's, a CEO would earn less than 10 times more than the employee with the lowest salary ... today it is 1000 times more in more and more places, if you think that is right, I suggest you take a course on business awareness. And, 1000 times more is approximately what a factory owner earned in the 1880's, compared to the factory worker with the lowest pay.

It is very, very, very sad to see these poorly researched articles from Tim lately, I do urge el reg to rethink its approach to journalism - this is not the daily mail, this is an IT-centric publication, I expect to read about things IT, not some neo-liberal, clueless propaganda from a [auto-censured][auto-censured][auto-censured] ...

Besides, as a lot of you know, I am not a marxist/communist/leftist, I am a tree-hugger.

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Re: However

@ RogerStenning

Google translate sucks, did you not know ?

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Solidfire offers unlimited SSD wear guarantee, punts software at market

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Serious question

Has anyone ever witnessed flash wear first hand, as in, capacity loss, data loss due to wear ... even partial ? I doubt it. I am sure that theoretically it can happen, but has anybody been bitten by this ? I have 3+ year old SSD's with which I compile gigabytes of code, two of these are used daily ... no sign of wear over here ...

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$533 MEEELLION – the cost of Apple’s iTunes patent infringement

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Re: Why Texas?

@ Mine's a Guinness

> 3) The average IQ in Texas is 54

3) The average IQ in Texas is 5.4

Fixed it.

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Samb-AAAHH! Scary remote execution vuln spotted in Windows-Linux interop code

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Re: Some inane thoughts on the smaller points grammar...

>[...] shall I tomorrow return on the grand stage (with the right avatar, of course).

AC's cannot choose an icon, LOL.

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Re: Re:But in a decent software company there would be peer reviews and QA testing.

@AC

>Microsoft's OSs had fewer holes than most others inc. Linux last year:

>http://betanews.com/2015/02/22/os-x-ios-and-linux-have-more-vulnerabilities-than-windows/

It all depends if you count Internet Explorer in the mix, it is "built-into" Windows. Even if you take GNU tools, Firefox, OpenOffice, you have fewer holes than WIndows+ie, then you can count MS Office, and you are well out in the blue.

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vSphere 6.0 is BADASS. Not that I've played with it or anything. Ahem

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Re: VMWare client

Shocked ? This is how the whole thing started, me thinks ...

dev manager: We have a great product and now need a ui for this, not really a priority, anything cheap will do.

HR guy: Well, I just looked and there are a bunch of MSCD's on <jobsite> looking for work, I am sure they can write us something nice.

dev manager: Great!

.... 3 weeks later

dev manager: We need a ui for this thingy.

win dev:Ok

dev manager: It should be multiplatform, like windows, linux, mac.

win dev: Ok, that means flash plugin in a browser. We will also build a native windows client alongside, because as I learned during MCSD, windows has 99.99997% of the world marketshare, can you imagine, exact same percentage as Erich Honecker on election day, back in the days. On UNIX you do not have a common ui framework you can use, except for curses, and it is too hard to display the VM in ASCII art.

dev manager: eh, hm, sure, hm ... you're hired.

win dev: thanks!

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Linux kernel dev has gone well and truly corporate – report

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Systemd - The Year of the FreeBSD Desktop

2016 - the year systemd is spread to every major release, freeBSD gets some well deserved love ... Ted Mittelstaedt will buy me beer!

His book has been on my bedside table for the last 14+ years.

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Re: 16.4 per cent and 2.5 per cent leaves 81.1 per cent.

@ Barry Manilow

We need Free Software.

Now let the right wing Arschlöcher down-vote me. I have 1.5 times more upvotes than downvotes, I could need a downvote or two.

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Re: Snowballing

Microsoft is known for poor documentation.

FreeBSD is know for top notch documentation ... so is Suse.

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BlackBerry's money-making QNX unit touts virty dual-OS devices

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Re: That llama picture...

I think that is a reference to the fact that, according to the theory of relativity, there is no such thing as "real" time.

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Re: Real time is also general purpose

Linux has a rt kernel, which I personally use because I use jackd, but I agree ... hardly realtime - Windows realtime ? You owe me a new keyboard!

When it comes to realtime OS, why is firewire dead ? Who in their right mind would want to use USB instead ? Seriously ?

Idiocracy!

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Vodafone didn't have a £6bn tax bill. Sort yourselves out, Lefties

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+1 for right wing cunts!

No esto AC porque tengo cojones!

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Re: One Question:

>That one's easy. EU legislation overrides UK rules.

EU legislation is more severe, who would have known ?

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Please refrain from writing about stuff you do not understand

Luxembourg (not luxembough or whatever) is a tax haven. Vodaphone, like many other companies including French bank Credit Agricole, colloquially called Credit Arnaque in France, moved a lot of their funds to Luxembourg where the current President of the European Commission, then Prime Minister, granted them tax-haven-style "discounts".

Vodaphone, Credit Arnaque etc PAID NO CORPORATE TAX ON THOSE FUNDS ANYWHERE.

Call me leftie, I do not care, but that is tax avoidance.

Now, say, if Vodaphone had paid corporate tax on those funds in Germany or UK, nobody would have been upset, but no, they have not. Besides, all this was done under secrecy and only came to light after whistle-blowers made it public.

That is the thing with tax havens, these should not exist. Guess where Total's (French equivalent of BP) headquarters are located ? How much profits did they make in 2013 ? €10bn, where do they "pay" corporate tax ? Not in France, no, look it up ... ;-)

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Just WHY is the FBI so sure North Korea hacked Sony? NSA: *BLUSH*

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@SolidSquid

Makes me think of a famous French standup comedian:

My enemy is stupid ! He thinks I am the enemy when in fact it is obvious that he is it. (slightly hard to translate)

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After Brit spies 'snoop' on families' lawyers, UK govt admits: We flouted human rights laws

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FAIL

>"It does not mean that there was any deliberate wrongdoing on the part of the security and intelligence agencies, which have always taken their obligation to protect legally privileged material extremely seriously," the government spokesman said.

ROFLMAO

>"Nor does it mean that any of the agencies' activities have prejudiced or in any way resulted in an abuse of process in any civil or criminal proceedings. The agencies will now work with the independent Interception of Communications Commissioner to ensure their policies satisfy all of the UK's human rights obligations."

Interesting, how exactly ? I mean, we know that with Prism, they are listening in on all calls across Europe, does this mean that when it is a lawyer talking to his client they simply stop recording ? How exactly do they manage to identify this specific case ? Right, they must listen in, which is illegal.

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Fight back against illegal GCHQ spying with PAPERWORK!

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WTF?

Paperwork comes with costs

Please enlighten me, who is paying for the all paperwork that is going to be performed by the GCHQ thanks to this campaign ?

If data interception was illegal, heads must roll ... into prison. These people are in charge of our security, they have our "trust" that they will not do evil, and if they do evil it should be considered high treason on their part and they MUST be trialed accordingly.

Who in their right mind is going to trust GCHQ now if heads do not roll?

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Torvalds turns to Sir Mix-A-Lot for Linux versioning debate

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Re: I hate to be a whining prude...

>Although I looked at the photo for a good 2 minutes thinking they were boobs.

I hardly looked, assumed boobs and went straight to the article. Thank you, wolfetone, for pointing out how wrong I was ;-).

Now, I do not mind a middle finger and I work from home so no boss around ;-), however, I could not have read this article in the office without a problem or two with my female co-workers ... ;-) Besides, I do not think the boss would care, tbh, but that is just my boss, I guess ;-).

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Got $600 for every Win Server 2003 box you're running? Uh-oh

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Re: Over a barrel. @AC

> You have to use kludges like SUDO - which must at least initially execute as ROOT. This is a massive fail. With Windows though you can allocate JUST the rights needed on a fully granular basis.

Ever heard of UNIX ACL's ? Thought not.

Besides, you do not necessarily have to use sudo, you can use su, you know ? I do not understand your issue with sudo INITIALLY running as ROOT ... do you even know what sudo does ? Go read up on sudoers file, you can adapt it quite some bit, how can you do that one windows ?

>Quite - so much more difficult to support if you are installing 3rd party packages, and of course you have to install (compile?!) and configure the product.

I cannot remember the last time I was obliged to compile some 3rdparty app ... must be 7 or 8 years - and I use Linux on my primary workstation. I know kernel modules need to be recompiled when a new kernel is installed and the system rebooted, but that happens "transparently".

There are quite a few apps in my app repositories, like Java, mysql, postgres etc, etc, etc that I can install in a few clicks as well, however, no "Goto google > type app name > skip ads > locate website > locate download section > locate correct platform/bittiness > find download button, no, really watch out here, there are 5 on this screen > wait, wait, wait > execute file > Next > untick unwanted toolbars and/or adware > Next > untick startup when system starts > untick litter my desktop > reboot > done" bullshit ... for me it is just "Software (link on my dock/panel) > fill app name > click install > wait, wait, wait > done".

Actually, that is for mom and pop, I use aliases ..." $ get [app_name] > wait, wait, wait > done."

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Smartphones merge into homogeneous mass as 'flagship fatigue' bites

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Re: Obvious

So you guyz are saying there are no phone-less flatrate plans in your country where you actually pay less than those including a phone ? Pay as you go is obviously more expensive ...

Usually, telcos actually pay for the phone with your excessive usage of your data plan (when you exceed the monthly limit).

If this is so, you are being ripped off.

As I already wrote, I have a LTE plan with 20Gb data/month (speed reduced after I hit the monthly limit), unlimited number of calls (to max 250 distinct numbers per month [including mobile in France, US & Canada and landlines in ~100 countries], max 1h but of course I can redial, unlimited SMS) for 20euro/month. Actually, I pay 17/month because I have ADSL with them also - waiting for fiber which is only a few blocks away and coming to my street this year.

Oh, and I have 35 days/year 3G dataplan across Europe in the deal + calls + sms. after that I pay less than the outrageous prices you pay abroad while roaming.

If you do not have a plan like that in your country you have a cartel and are being ripped off.

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Obvious

> More people are happy with hand-me-downs and SIM-only deals.

More people [have found the calculator app and] are happy with hand-me-downs and SIM-only deals.

Fixed it for el'reg.

Seriously, if you buy a phone on contract you are an idiot, no ifs, buts or maybes - just look at what you spent last time.

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Google cuts Microsoft and pals some slack in zero-day vuln crusade – an extra 14 days tops

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Re: Good Job

@ big_D

>Redesign the way domain integration works?

These are the types of problems you get with non-*nix systems, where you have one monolithic block of an OS where even userland shit like a browser is part of the whole. Unix philosophy of a number of different tools and protocols to choose from is the way to go, you would think.

Then you have the impact of a bug in Windows that can have repercussions in areas you would not expect, because a gazillion of different coders attempt to create this monolithic monster of an OS and communication can only go so far.

90 days ? 9 should be enough, in Free Software world, a security bug reported on a Monday gets fixed on the following Tuesday, before lunch, then sent out to the gazillion testers (bleeding edge users) - free software has more testers than MS employees.

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Re: WebView

>Although the Bavarians might not have ended octoberfest yet.

Oktoberfest, yes, with a K, is held in the month of September ... ;-) And, you forgot about the Jewish and muslim holidays (Fridays, Saturdays, Sundays are nogos, a whack of odd days throughout the year as well) ... I could go on.

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HELP! Windows Phone update 8.1 broke my Lumia

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@ DaddyHoggy

No shit, one of you Sony Xperia M's refuses to charge the battery now after, what, 2 years ... switched batteries with the sane one and no, the batteries charge.

So you get shit everywhere ...

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WATCH IT: It's watching you as you WATCH IT (Your Samsung telly is)

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from Samsung with Love

CC: GHCQ

Subject: Audio quality of recordings

Dear customer,

The audio quality of the voice recordings we have made in your living room is terrible. Please consider upgrading your Ethernet cable; Samsung recommends highest quality materials such as AudioQuest Diamond-grade Ethernet cables. [see http://www.audiovisualonline.co.uk]

Regards,

Samsung Customer Server

Platinum Party Member Status

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$10,000 Ethernet cable promises BONKERS MP3 audio experience

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On sale now for 599.00

http://www.audiovisualonline.co.uk/product/7924/audioquest-diamond-rj-e-ethernet-cable-0-75m/

>"I'd sum up these differences as more. You get an increasingly large sound picture as you move up the line, greater differentiation between sonic elements, and a greater sense of clarity. Again, these changes are not subtle or slight. I did not have to do any sort of special listening to special tracks, put on a lab coat, or comb my thinning hair in a particular manner. All I had to do was sit and listen and the changes I've described were readily apparent."

Hilarious!

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Fancybox WordPress plugin reveals zero day affecting thousands

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I appreciate the instructions for users of WP - great job ... one thing I do not understand is the relationship between RFC's and backdoors ... there is none.

RFC's usually define a standard or protocol etc; it is when you implement the feature described in the RFC that you can add your backdoors. So RFC means nothing ... an FTP server, for example, could log usernames/passwords in plain text and send them to the vendor's servers. The FTP server can still implement all features in RFC 959.

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Assange's cop chaperones have cost £10 MEEELLION to date

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Re: idiot

>You could wonder if this was not a cost to be billed to Ecuador for allowing a fugitive to abuse the concept of asylum to avoid justice.

Ok, so what is asylum for ? How does a state persecute somebody ? Right, by enforcing specific laws. Seriously, I think he has been trapped. The US want him and they will get him; the UK only has to honour the agreement with Sweden to extradite him. Sweden will investigate the allegations and the Swedish courts will most likely let him go free after he pays a ransom/pribe ... then the NSA/CIA/FBI/whatever will fly him to Guantanamo bay, for special waterboarding-style treatment.

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Plane crash blamed on in-flight SELFIES

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Re: plenty of people can't even handle walking while fiddling with their phone

>Nor can they handle it while fiddling with their naughty bits...

`naughty bits` ???? Are you not supposed to be at school ? I hope nobody will find out, primary school headmasters certainly won't take this light-handed.

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Bloke in Belgium tries to trademark Je Suis Charlie slogan

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Re: WELL DONE

> they've raised the visibility of a tiny magazine read by about three people to a global level.

Actually, the magazine is a must-read for students - not a dorm in France where you do not have at least 5 or 6 students who have a subscription.

They make fun of anything/everyone; HRH Queen Elisabeth 2, for example... one cover depicts the Queen bending over showing here bald arse to the Irish, to calm down the IRA (iirc, back in the day, of course) - hilarious. The French presidents have been depicted in the most obscene way, which is of course not as far away from the truth than one would think ... One cover depicts a gay pope Benedict doing stuff with a Swiss guard ... [for the upper-class, ignorant, or ill-educated numpties on 'ere the fancy guards of the Vatican are actually Swiss, yes from Switzerland, and no, Switzerland is not another name for Sweden].

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Re: Interesting graphic

>The Collins definition :

>noun

>(Brit, derogatory, slang) a person regarded as inferior because ignorant, ill-educated, or upper-class

Fixed that.

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Microsoft's Nadella: Congratulations on 12 months of not being Steve Ballmer

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$2.5bn for Mojang

Well, that was a very high price for digital Lego. I read the other article where it was explained in "marketing speech" why it was a 'wise' (ROFLMAO) decision ... I guess that with less than 500k you can build a much better minecraft clone - after all, it is just a remake of a 1980's game, anyway - the only difference being the open world side of things.

Minecraft has the poorest graphics I have seen in almost 15 years and requires gazillion resources doing just that, display a pixelated, artifact-ridden world. I guess it is related to the JVM - it was not designed for proper hardware accelerated 3d graphics.

They probably paid 10000 times too much for that company.

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UK official LOSES Mark Duggan shooting discs IN THE POST

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Re: "The discs were password-protected but unencrypted"

>What? Are you telling me that the data was in plain text? And how does the password come into play?

The disc contained the data + autorun.inf which executes a Windows program on the disc that asks for a password, when no password/incorrect password is provided, the disc is unmounted ... turn off autorun and "All Your Data is Belong to US".

Must be something like that - it has to pass Microsoft Certified Windows/Surface Security Experts auditing practices.

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Re: And still using DISCS IN THE POST

> and at least NSA and GCHQ can't intercept it!

They already have said data!

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Re: Now let me guess

>When I contacted them, they assured me that the nameless person who sent the email was no longer working for them. Though given that they didn't name them, didn't say why they were supposedly no longer working there and made no reference to confidential medical information being sent using standard plaintext email, in contravention of their working practises, and by people probably not authorised to do so, I don't feel a great deal of confidence as a result of their response.

Indeed they upgraded the server hardware of the mail-response system that was not thread safe - so indeed "another person".

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Re: Follow proper procedure

Dropbx/Google cloud ? Is that not their backup strategy ? I mean, they can always ask 5 eyes for the data.

The MOJ is against encryption, as is the PM, so why would they use it ?

Backups ? ROFL

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Wham, bam... premium rate scam: Grindr users hit with fun-killing charges

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Re: the solution is simple...even simpler

>In the US, it's called a "third party billing block" and I've activated it on all my accounts.

>Just call your carrier and tell them to put one on your account. it shouldn't cost anything.

You do not understand the problem.

The problem is that apps can make phone calls, even ads ... this should not be possible - all they should be allowed to do is display the built-in dialer, period - an then, ads should not be able to do that either - they should be display only. An ad could call a tollfree number and cutoff at the first ring to gather ppl's phone numbers - this should NOT be possible.

Saying that you have to give the app permission on Android is fucked up - you either give permission or you cannot install the app. iOS is only slightly better because you have to confirm you want to make a call. All utter crap ...

Besides, maybe some people use premium services

A happy BB10 user - we get none of this crap. Feels sad for those using security sieves ... but then again, if you are reading this, "you should know better™".

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Microsoft tells big biz: No free Windows 10 for you, crack wallets open

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Re: True definition of "locked in"

>Though ctrl+v now works in cmd, that's a bonus (though, that could be in 8, I never tried).

Christ, can you select text properly, iow per line ? Because if you cannot, it's the incorrect solution ... what was wrong with Ctrl+insert/Shift+insert ? Yes, it took a while getting used to it ... and ... every time I had not touched it in a while I would get confused ... text selection is much more important, I think.

Have they fixed tab completion ? TAB completion deletes everything after the TAB ... annoying ... TAB completion iterates over all potential candidates, not useful when you have 600+ files with a prefix ... how hard can it be to stop where multiple candidates are available ... like on *nix.

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'Super-secure' BlackPhone pwned by super-silly txt msg bug

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Re: Yeah...

You need to read the "mythical man month".

Multi billion $ companies are selling security sieves, iOS, Android, Windows Phone^H^H^H^H^H are prime examples - Now, these guyz do not have the experience of Blackberry, so the road is bumpy, and their phones might not be in the same league as BB10, but they are in the same universe, unlike the other three.

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Apple's Beats, Google, and Sony hammered with unpaid royalty claim

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WTF?

Streaming Oldies ?

I do not get this. The only music that needs streaming tech is most of the music produced since ~2000, lots of music from the 90's as well. For most of the rest, copies are in order ... so, stop streaming that stuff ... just sell it.

I think 20 years is more than enough time for royalties, if you ask me. There are a lot of traditional publishing houses that sell songs without paying the artists ... really many, don't believe me, ask Edwyn Collins (A Girl Like You). All those compilations, best of the 90's, for example, never pay a cent in royalties to the artists, song writers ...

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Free Windows 10 could mean the END for Microsoft and the PC biz

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I witnessed a surface sale, today ... should have bought a lottery ticket.

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@AC Re: The days of needing a Windoze O/S upgrade to run PC hardware is long gone

As much as I would like them to get their act together, Gnome 3 is pre-alpha quality - it lacks fundamental things such as a theme chooser, proper power management settings, screen settings dialog ... the control panel needs a hell of a lot of care.

Cinnamon ? Maybe ... not sure

KDE ? Certainly not. It has the settings alright, but Suse lacks backing and Redhat has better things to do (enterprise), besides, RedHat does not have Yast.

Then you have the systemd debacle ...

<wishful_thinking>Maybe FreeBSD will come out as a winner here ... funny, waited 15 years for the year of Linux desktop and FreeBSD takes over</wishful_thinking>

Na, OS X is a nightmare, a real nightmare ... since Mountain Lion when they removed an entire ui framework ... wtf. The API keeps evolving^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hchanging, so software has to be written (iwtf!), with a yearly release cycle, they are committing suicide - hardly any professional sound cards have Mavericks drivers, let alone Yosemite drivers, lots of games no longer work ...

Can we please expell the gnome3/systemd backers ? Then we would have hope ... I doubt it will happen.

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