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Brit telcos warn Scots that voting Yes could lead to HEFTY bills

Ojustaboo

If Scotland vote no, they should then let the |English vote on whether we still want Scotland as part of the UK

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Slough isn't fit for humans now, says Amazon. We're going to Shoreditch

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Re: SLOUGH - if despond - easily the worst place in Buckinghamshire ... or anywhere?

Having worked in both Bracknell and Slough, Slough is 100 times worse and I can't stand Bracknell

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You! Pirate! Stop pirating, or we shall admonish you politely. Repeatedly, if necessary

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re: John Lilburne

The case you quote is in the US.

In the UK it is not theft to download copyrighted material, it is a civil offence.

It can become a criminal one if you upload though so don't use torrents, use newsgroups and your legal.

"The Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988, as amended by the Copyright and Trade Marks (Offences and Enforcement) Act 2002, currently protects copyrighted materials. People who download copyrighted recordings without permission face civil actions. Downloading can also constitute a criminal offence if the downloader distributes the material."

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PlayStation 4 a doddle to fix: Handy if it OVERHEATS, for instance

Ojustaboo

Re: Hard to find faults with PS4, isn't it?

Of course, there only needs to be say 20 odd users out of thousands to make a forum look like it's full of disgruntled users with faulty units. Not saying that is the case, but most happy users aren't going to be posting on the complaints threads.

But, I never understand the rush to get these things the day they come out, sure I want a PS4, I will get one some time next year when there's a good selection of games available, and more importantly, the initial bugs have been ironed out and we're on at least version 2. After the Xbox saga, never again..

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Virgin Media keeps mum as punters fume at crippled web access

Ojustaboo

I was with Virgin for years ending up on their 100 line.

I got sick to death of buffering youtube clips, over the top traffic management etc.

I moved to Skys unlimited BB about 9 months ago, I only get 18Mbps instead of 100 but for the last 9 months I can watch HD youtube clips with zero buffering etc.

Its also completely unmanaged.

Sure if I download a big file it takes 5 - 6 times as long but I'd rather than and a service that works as it should than what I was paying Virgin a LOT more for.

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PC World ordered to rip up promo for next-day repair promise

Ojustaboo

Trouble is, there's the large print and the small print.

Many companies sell because of the large print and the company is fully aware what they are implying to the customer.

For example, we a PS3 from a well known catalogue and took out an extended warranty. While I take the blurb they say with a pinch of salt, it said and still says at time of order

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"Service Guarantee

We’ll fix it, normally within 2 days, or send you a replacement if we can’t

Terms and Conditions apply"

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I think its fair to assume that when they advertise normally fixed within 2 days, most people taking out such a policy for a gaming console would thing that by doing so, they wouldn't be without their console for weeks.

The PS3 died.

I phoned them up the next morning. which was a Wednesday, the earliest they could arrange for it to be picked up was 2 days later on the Friday which meant it wouldn't be looked at until Monday at the earliest.

It was returned to us on the following Thursday with a node dated the day before saying a reflow had been done.

Just 10 mins of use and it died of exactly the same fault. Phoned them up, and the earliest they could pick it up was the following Tuesday.

So it took 8 days for the initial phone call for a repair that failed within 10 mins. And phoning them up to tell them this, it was another 5 days before they could pick up again..

End result is it took about 3 weeks before they supplied us with a brand new PS3.

I don't think 8 days turn around is at all bad (had the repair worked) . The small print may well say repairs can take up to 6 weeks, but the simple fact is, its sold on the understanding that repairs are usually only going to take a couple of day, most people taking out a warranty for a games console would not do so itf they thought they might be without their console for up to 6 weeks.

If you click on the "Service Guarantee Explained" link when they sell you the warranty, it says

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Certain things in the house you simply cannot be without. Look after your new items with our essential Service Guarantee and relax knowing that with just one call:

We’ll aim to repair it in 2 days.

And if we can’t fix it we’ll give you a new one.

In addition to this:

There are no call out fees with nothing extra to pay.

We’ll only use our trusted network of repairers so can guarantee a high level of service.

An easy claim service, one call-instant decision.

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personally I think 3 weeks is too long to have to wait when it's sold as they word it. 8 days turnaround for a repair is not a bad time (had it worked) but that doesn't get around the fact that their advert is misleading.

The way they fix consoles,it is impossible for them to ever do it within 2 days.

A best case scenario, I phone them at 9am Monday, they arrange for collection Tuesday. It's delivered to them Wednesday, fixed that same day and dispatched that same day, I get it back Thursday. Even if they managed to arrange for same day collection on the Monday, and they did manage to fix and dispatch it on the Tuesday, I still wouldn't get it back until the Wednesday, hence totally impossible.

Don't advertise what you cant normally, do simple.

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Council IT bod in the dock for flogging scrap work PC parts

Ojustaboo

Re: Lurking at dump

The dump employees are wrong.

If you actually dump it, it becomes their property and only at that point can they claim its there's.

They do have notices saying exchanging of things between cars isn't allowed, but exchanging between cars certainly isn't illegal and if y9ou give something from your car to me, while they can moan all they want, can even kick us out the dump if they so choose, they simply cannot claim its theft.

I had a huge argument with my dump about this, I had a large roll of bubble wrap on the back-seat of my car, the guy in the car next to me asked if I was dumpling it and if so, could he have it, I said sure and took it out of my car and was about to place it in his boot

A dump employee then snatched it off of me and said it was theirs. I said it wasn't it was mine and I'm in the process of giving it to him. The council bod took it to his office, I followed him and a huge argument ensued where he tried to tell me it was his, I told him he has zero right to take peoples stuff and he was stealing and I'm taking it back.

He threatened to phone the police, I told him to go ahead as it would save me the bother. I then picked it up walked back to my car with it and he shouted after me "he could have offered me a few quid for it, then I would be happy"

I then told the other guy to meet me outside the gates and I gave it to him there.

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Nintendo Wii U Review

Ojustaboo

Will be interesting to see how this does in todays climate.

Most people I know that bought the Wii that already owned other consoles, found it to be a 5 min wonder. Very few ended up buying more than one or two more games for it.

Most of those that liked the Wii were the more casual gamer but even then, many I know have only bought a handful of games or use just just for Wii Fit etc.

But that was then. Now most people have powerful phones or tablets. Since the day I first got my iphone (then android tablet, then ipad) my PSP and DS have never been turned on as there's simply no need for them.

Most of the people that found the Wii to be a 5 min wonder are hardly likely to buy the Wii U (which is the vast majority of Wii owners I know).

Many of the casual gamers that fell in love with the Wii now enjoy things like facebook type games just as much and I doubt that many will be in a rush to have the next gen Wii

I could be wrong (have been many times before).

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What can save the Xmas PC market? Not Windows 8, say analysts

Ojustaboo

"She claimed that in the first couple of months of life some 60 million Windows 7 licences were sold.

It is, however, difficult to tell how many of these Win8 licences were sold and how many were merely free upgrades"

There are also a lot of people like me who bought win 8 pro from MS as we can get it dirt cheap before something like Jan 2013 who have zero desire to actually install it yet and will probably wait until SP1 before even considering it.

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Why did Comet fail? Hint: It wasn't just the credit insurers

Ojustaboo

But I didn't buy the cheapest battery.

The place that delivered my Bosch battery today, had batteries for my Laguna starting at £49.14 including vat and free delivery

http://www.carparts4less.co.uk/cp4l/c/Renault_Laguna_1.8_2003/p/car-parts/car-electrics-and-car-lighting/electrical/car-battery/?444770270&1&aa67f1c7188b4a36f7d349dc908afd3df48ac965&000020

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Ojustaboo

When I found it, I expected it to cost a fortune to post.

But no.

Battery £71.94

Next day delivery £3.95

Total £75.89

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Ojustaboo

I love the way you presume my 19 yr old son should play outside :)

When he gets home from uni at Christmas, I'll suggest it to him. I was going out anyway and said I'd see if I could get him one.

Your missing my point though, very very very poor limited range, and the same very poor limited range wherever I went, and most not having the products in stock.

I usually do all my shopping online except for food shopping, while I was trying to find his battery, I looked at other things in the stores and said to my wife "and they wonder why so many stores are closing"

A few of this, a few of that, higher prices and much lower choice.

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Ojustaboo

I needed to buy a new car battery today.

From my local Halfords (not including fitting), Bosch HSB013 £119.99

http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_734763_langId_-1_categoryId_165762

Just bought the exact same battery on line including next day delivery for £75.89

http://www.carparts4less.co.uk/cp4l/c/Renault_Laguna_1.8_2003/p/car-parts/car-electrics-and-car-lighting/electrical/car-battery/?444770278&1&aa67f1c7188b4a36f7d349dc908afd3df48ac965&000020

That is why I buy nearly everything online

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Ojustaboo

Most high street shops are doomed to failure, times change.

All the big ones (and many small ones) have become a jack of all trades and expert at none. A few weeks ago I needed a new rechargeable battery for my sons xbox.

Normally I would have bought on-line, but needed it urgently, so Saturday afternoon, I set out to buy one.

I simply wanted a rechargeable battery for around the £10 - £15 mark bearing in mind I could get a MS one online for £12 or a twin pack from a 3rd party for around £9.

I went everywhere, what stood out to me was they all were the same.

Didn't matter whether it was Tesco, Comet, Currys etc they had a tiny selection of lots of things and they all seemed to have a very similar tiny selection. Didn't matter whether it was a PC mouse, an Xbox or PS3 accessory or what, it was dismal.

I initially didn't find one shop that had a 3rd party rechargeable battery and the few that did have a MS one in stock were around double the price if not more than I could buy online

All of them had ones available online at a fairly reasonable price, but the actual stores were a joke.

I finally went to blockbusters only to get told by the sales assistant that they didn't sell them and I had to point out to her that they were infact hanging on the wall behind her.

So I spent about 2 hrs finding a store with one in stock, driving al over the place and paid £5 more for 1 than I could get two for online.

Tesco started selling things like tools etc and in all honestly became a sort of pound shop, selling really really crap quality stuff at inflated prices.

Comet, you'd walk in the shop staff would pounce on you, you would politely tell them to go away and they never ever had what I wanted to buy in their stores.

Argos, I use Argos as it's open until 8pm and if I need something urgently, I can quickly pick it up. But recently, almost everything I want is only available online. Its now getting to the point where I don't even bother looking any more.

Online, I can buy at a considerably cheaper price, I have far far far far more choice, I have the distance selling regs to protect me, I haven't got to drive, I know its in stock (usually) before I order.

Going to the shops, they have a very very limited range, staff often seem smarmy or pushy, rarely have what I want in stock, always more expensive and the one very rare time I used PCworld as I needed something urgently, I reserved online to pick up at the store (was told was in stock), drove 20 miles to the shop only to find they lied.

I can order at 10:55pm on Ebuyer, pay something like £10 and have it delivered next day and still be a LOT cheaper than I can buy it in a store

I use town centre and out of town shopping places less and less, as to most people I know. My wife has a lot of elderly clients in her job, the vast majority have no problems using a PC and much prefer ordering online to having to go out and get a bus etc.

So with places like Oxford Street aside, give it a few years, I see the average town centre as being completely dead, or having to change completely and become more entertainment and relaxation places than shopping places.

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Sky squeezes even more money from customers, gets fewer new ones

Ojustaboo

Never pay full price

I always get a good deal, I swap between Virgin and Sky virtually every year.

This time Sky begged me back by giving me a new free Sky HD box, £50 cash bonus and 75% off all entertainment and movies (didn't want sports) for 12 months. I pay £20.50 a month for all entertainment, all movies and the HD package (which for some reason also includes F1).

Usually when the 12 months is up Virgin will be offering something similar and sometimes when Quidco are offering huge cash backs, I actually make a little bit over the year.

Meanwhile the loyal customers keep paying full price year in and year out.

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Virgin Media wipes out websites with routing blackhole

Ojustaboo

Left Virgin a month ago

I've been with Virgin for years, every time upping to their top tier for the simple reason that has never had traffic management on it.

I've been on the 100 service for the last year. If I don't use a vpn or ssl with different port, the newsgroups are throttled down to dialup speed.

If I buy say Portal 2 from steam, I will hit my limit before I've downloaded half of it, hence my download speed is halved. If I'm playing an mmo and there's a huge new patch and my guilds all eager to get on, again I will hit the download limit before I'm half way. I do not pay for the 100 service to have those sorts of limitations.

That aside, during the year on the 100 service, I've had constant youtube buffering and many other problems when browsing etc.

I've been on Sky Unlimited for a month, sure I get much less upload, sure I only download from newsgroups at 18Mbps, but every person in my house has commented on how much faster general browsing is and I haven't experienced one single buffer while watching HD youtube vids yet.

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Virgin Media's latest throttling rules

Ojustaboo

Found their details from last year

Here's a post from an official Virgin employee responding as a virgin representative when a thread goes on about traffic management

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I can confirm what other posters have said . The 100Mbps service is not throttled, which is why there is no reference to it here. That links also explains the throttling of P2P (except games) and Newsgroup traffic.

There is an FAQ regarding the detrimental use policy here. Currently 100Mbps service users are not subject to the detrimental use policy. Although there are no plans to change this, I cannot guarantee that this won't happen at some time in the future.

Regards,

John Haggerty

Help & Support Forum Team

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And here are two links showing the then 50 and 100 charts, note the lack of management on the 100 except for newsgroups/p2p

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/69/virginu.jpg/

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/42/virgin2.jpg/

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Ojustaboo

Re: VPNs

no matter how you look at this 4KB is not 50% of 100MB ...

Give them a call, demand a better service.

That is clearly not the intended functionality of this STM / other related stuff.

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I have contacted Virgin and posted numerous comments on their forums about this.

The 50% reduction has nothing to do with newsgroups, as I have said in nearly every post in this thread, the 50% reduction is for everything else that wasn't previously managed .

Their traffic management on their newsgroups is completely separate to any other traffic management and the speed I get is correct according to them. Which is why numerous people ended up paying for VPNs, all said they wouldn't mind a decent restriction on newsgroups, but not down to download speeds.

Virgin would not give the exact figures but people were complaining of the same speeds as me.

All Virgin would say was point us to

"At peak times we also slow down the speed of file sharing traffic – that's services like Limewire, Gnutella, BitTorrent and Newsgroup (Usenet) traffic. You will, of course, still be able to use these services, but downloads and uploads will take longer during these peak periods"

not once did they say our speeds were unexpectedly slow.

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Ojustaboo

Re: Oh grow up you lot!

It's called time management not being a spoilt brat just because you want something and want it now. Don't give me that bullshit about unlimited, since when has any service quoted true unlimited and ever delivered? They are capping by half for a few hours if you bust your limit, not cutting your service pending a spanking from the VM controller FFS!! I

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You may be happy if you sign up for something and are then changed to something else.

You may think its childish for people to complain when what they signed up for is suddenly changed.

You may well be right that companies that advertise as unlimited usually don't deliver (although some companies such as BE, Sky unlimited, to seem to be able to do as advertised)

That is of course your right.

But please don't tell me to grow up for not wanting to put up with false advertising, having new rules imposed on us etc. I didn't sign up for a 50 service at peak times which is what it will be if I buy virtually any on-line game or stream in HD from say netfiix for a few hours I signed up for a 100 service and I expect to get what I signed up for.

When I signed up, Virgins site said the following, quote:

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What can I do with 100Mb?

Download an entire music album in as little as 5 seconds; a TV show in around 30 seconds, a high quality movie in as little as 1½ minutes and a high definition movie in around 7 minutes.  100Mb really excels when the whole house is online at the same time – whether for streaming HD videos, downloading HD movies, gaming online or accessing everyday services. With 100Mb broadband there is plenty of connection for everyone!

What does unlimited broadband mean?

No download limits. Unlike some of our competitors, you get unlimited downloads as a basic right so you can load up on music, films...whatever you're into.

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Ojustaboo

Re: This is an IMPROVEMENT

So the news is, their product is now much more attractive to the vast majority of users, leaving a small vocal minority of whiners who seem to think it's their right to monopolize an optical fibre so they can torrent media as fast as possible.

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I think you miss the point.

Those few times I do download from newsgroups (the last one being when my virgin TV box crashed and failed to record something I wanted to watch when I got in), I couldn't care less if they dropped the newsgroup speed to 10Mbps from 100.

Most people buy the 100 because they are high users.

Re-install windows, apply all the updates, maybe a service pack, re-install your software and apply the updates, chances are your already close to your limit.

Stream 15 mins of films in HD from Netflix (again one of the reasons many opt for the fastest speed) and you've already downloaded 800MB

Buy a new game such as Portal 2 from steam, it's 10/5GB download, again you hit your daily limit.

I paid for my 100 service so that the few times I need the speed it's there. Last week I had to rebuild my PC. I play Starwars online. That's a 20GB download by itself yet alone my CS4, Office, all my pro music software updates etc.

That's the first time this year I've downloaded anything large. Those few times that I do, I don't expect to be penalised for it, more that that , should I get home from work and hit the limit say at 8:30pm, I don't expect to be "fined" by having the limit applied for another 5 hrs, 4.5 of it after their management finishes for everyone else.

I am getting a bit sick and tired of people like yourself presuming that everyone who complains is torrenting 24/7. Last time I used torrent software was a few years ago because the makers of X-plane flight sim at the time, insisted on me doing so for my updates.

The internet has changed a lot on just the past year.

Streaming movies in HD is more and more becoming the norm.

Buying games and downloading is more and more becoming the norm.

Buying and downloading software is more and more becoming the norm.

I pay for my 100 service so that the times I buy a game that's 10 - 20GB ( not a weekly or even a monthly occurrence) , I can get it in a short period of time and be up and playing. Not being able to do that is a fair complaint in my opinion.

All that aside, if they couldn't provide their 50Mbps users with an unmanaged service, what makes you really thing that when everyone's upgraded to 100 they will suddenly magically now be able to give everyone a guaranteed 50.

Judging by all the slow speed complaints and youtube buffering complaints in both Virgins 50 and 100 forum sections (last week on the 100 service, I couldn't get more than 3Mbps for 2 days and they assure me my area is not over subscribed) , somehow I don't see them managing to provide what they now offer at all.

Just in case you don't know, the register report is wrong, P2P and newsgroups are managed in a completely different way and your lucky if you will get 5kbps, it's everything else that drops by 50% when you hit your limit.

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Re: VPNs

They aren't excluded though. Too many people like me who didn't mind reasonable management on nntp, got sick of our 100Mbps lines dropping to 4kbps hence used VPN's to get our downloads at the normal speed.

I don't mind my few newsgroup downloads going at 1/4 speed. I don't expect a file that should take 2 mins to take 5.5 hrs

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Ojustaboo

As I keep telling the Register, they have the report wrong. NNTP and P2P traffic management hasn't changed, when it kicks in it's still at dial up speeds, the new traffic management introduced yesterday cuts everything else down to 50% of your speed and has zero to do with newsgroups or p2p.

Well that's not quite true. anything you download now from newsgroups/P2P will count towards your daily limit for non P2P/newsgroup stuff, so when you hit your limit, your normal usage will be dropped by 50%. In addition as you have found out, whenever the P2P /newsgrouop management kicks in, it will drop to dial up type speeds. Which is what I keep telling others on this thread who have been mislead by the report on the Registers page to believe that when the limit is reached, newsgroups/P2P are dropped to 50%.

I've sent a note to the registers correction department,

The fact that this is implied, also makes the Registers poll null and void, I would have voted it a good deal if we hit a limit and just newsgroups were dropped 50%.

I've had estimates of 5.5 hrs to download a 750MB file over the past few weeks on Virgins 100 service, come midnight or if I used a VPN, I got the full speed and it took a couple of mins.

Of course their new system means all data is counted so a VPN will still kick in the 50% slowdown, but does that mean that with a VPN we still get to download at 50Mbps from newsgroups? I'm sure someone will test it soon.

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Ojustaboo

Re: As long as they publish their limits...

True. Where some people are having a problem is that they are under a 12 month contract and Virgin are saying that because the way their T&C is worded, the fact that they have never (for the last 10 years anyway) had management on their top tier except for monitoring p2p/usenet, its tough if anyone wants to leave their contracts early.

People are saying that they signed up for a service with no limitations and Virgin has now introduced ones that make the service not worth the money.

Personally, I'm out of contract and have just switched to Sky.

Totally unlimited, in Skys words I can hammer it as much as I want, bearing in mind with VM at peak times nntp was going slower than dial up on my 100 line.

VM, No call line identification on my phone line and no plans to do it in my area.

VM No Sky Atlantic

VM traffic management that makes my paying for 100 service pointless.

VM bill for my bb, Top TV package (no movies or sport), phone = £70.65 per month inc phoneline rental

Yesterday evening Sky gave me the following deal

all installation costs and phone activation costs waved.

Free netgear router.

Totally unlimited BB.

Top package (no movies or sports) yay I get Sky Atlantic

HD package (far far more HD channels than Virgin)

Call line identification working and included in my package

no minimum contract for TV, 12 months min for phone and BB

First 6 months for the lot inc line rental just £38.25 per month rising to £55.00 after that.

So for 6 months I save £32.40, then I save £15.65 a month, more HD channels, better phone service and I can download a 20 min TV show in under 5 hours at peak time.

I warned Virgin numerous times that I'm not paying for a 100 service if I don't get to use it as and when I need it (such as the 20GB star wars game I recently had to download). Still around £90 with calls they've lost. If their top tier had no traffic management, I would have remained a customer.

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Ojustaboo

Re: Missing the point

As I have just posted in another part of this thread, Virgin have just confirmed that usenet/p2p is still being throttled like it was two days ago, to quote

"The P2P and Newsgroup management hasn't been changed. It still works the same way as it did"

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Ojustaboo

Re: The fastest UK broadband service...

I just posted the following on Virgins forum

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Can a virgin representative please confirm what I believe the Register has incorrectly said.

I thought this traffic management applies to everything, thats certainly whats been implied by people I've seen from Virgin on this forum

According to an article on The Register thats being discussed in their forums, a quote from a virgin rep states

"The traffic that will be slowed down by VM during weekday evenings and weekends will be peer-to-peer and newsgroups. The firm said it won't be targeting, among other things, video streaming, music downloads and VoIP."

Some people are now jumping on anyone that complains and are saying things like "its only usenet and nntp thats being managed"

I think what the rep meant to say was that while your speed is halved, it's only usenet and p2p thats slowed down further.

Can you confirm this and also how you will be applying your traffic management to usenet? Before the new traffic management, mine was almost at dialup speed during peak times. Again people are presuming that they can download as much as they want from usenet/p2p at 50% of their 100 speed, if this is the case, that part of it is a vast improvement on the near dialup speed I was getting from usenet at peak times.

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And the response from a Virgin employee that's been answering mist of the traffic management replies which confirms what I thought

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The P2P and Newsgroup management hasn't been changed. It still works the same way as it did

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Ojustaboo

Re: The fastest UK broadband service...

HMB You are wrong.

It WAS only usenet and p2p that was throttled, now it's everything and everything counts towards your daily limit.

usenet and p2p was throttled much much much more than 50%. They have not said this still wont be the case, the most I've got out of them is that whatever happens, nntp and usenet still counts towards your daily usage limit.

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Re: Sounds fantastic.

Paul E:

Not the point. People pay for the 100 service so that they CAN download such things as wow when they want, they don't pay for 100 and expect to be told when they can and cant do things

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Ojustaboo

Re: the traffic thats managed is everything

Yep I can see that. But as I just put in another reply, they had throttling on their 50 service and their forums were full of people not getting anywhere the advertised throttled speed.

Now they can miraculously provide 50 for everyone, no limits at all, including all the people they are in the process of upgrading to 100.

I personally don't see it.

I don't mind them advertising a 50 Mbit min service that when bandwidth allows can rise up to 100 but we're not guaranteed the 100. What I object to is signing up to 100, paying for the 100 and being offered 50 (which a heavy user will effectively end up getting a lot of the time).

I like many others only signed up to the 100 and paid the extra to do so as they introduced management on the 50.

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Re: Just athought

No what they are saying is, we advertised a 100 service knowing that most people that choose to pay the extra for the 100 service do so due to them being high bandwidth users.

But now, at peak times, the times we are likely to be using it, we are only going to be given 1/2 what we are paying/signed up for should we choose to do something like download a game from steam.

Again as has been posted elsewhere, if Virgin want to say that their network can handle 50Mbps to everyone with no throttling, I think most would be happy (providing they are paying for 50 and not 100) .

But they had throttling on their 50 service, now they are upgrading people to 100, all of a sudden we can all still expect to always get 50. It simply wont happen for the vast majority of us

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Re: Missing the point

It is anoying though ... when i go home to find my game provider has released a 2GB update and i then know i have to sit and wait a bit longer ...

But really ... 2GB at anything above 50MB/s is 5 mins ... go boil a kettle !!!!

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They used to (two days ago) throttle newsgroups and P2P far far more than that, I haven't managed to get firm info that they still wont be, all they have said is that p2p/nntp etc count towards your daily limit, they have not said as far as I can tell that they will now up the throttling of their p2p/nntp to the 50% throttling they have introduced to the the rest of their service.

Thing is, most users aren't experiencing what you are. I see your on 120, most aren't.

I was on the 50 service and received 49.9 24/7 whatever I was doing. They introduced traffic management and often it would go to a crawl, even without me hitting any limit.

I upgraded to 100. When they throttled nntp, it would often go down to download speed, giving me estimated times of 5.5 hrs for a 750MB file, then come 11:59 would spring back into life, I'd get the full speed and 60 secs later it was complete. I don't mind them managing p2p and nntp, but not down to the speeds I was getting.

Today on their super fast 100 service, here are a few speedtests I've just this second run.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1872972597.png

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1872977641.png

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1872979018.png

As you can see, under 4Mbps on my 100Mbps service. I haven't downloaded anything today either. This is exactly what happened when they put traffic shaping on my 50 service (and I did give them a few weeks to sort it out etc)

My area is not over subscribed etc.

Why should I pay for Virgins 100 service when for a LOT less I could have Skys unlimited service and still get where I live around 17Mbps totally unmanaged. Surely the whole point of paying for their top tier is so that the speed is there for those times I want it.

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Ojustaboo

the traffic thats managed is everything

According to Virgin, unlike what they said in your article, the traffic management applies to everything not just p2p and nntp.

They haver made this very clear on their forums.

for example

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We will still be moderating the total volume of P2P and Newsgroup as a whole during peak times, but the amount of P2P and Newsgroup data you upload and download will still count towards your traffic management thresholds. For more detail on P2P and Newsgroup traffic management click here.

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The main complaint on their forum is that those doing non p2p/nntp things are likely to very easily hit their limit.

For example, if your on the 60 limit you can only download 5GB as a fair amount. If I brought the music software package I was looking at earlier for 150 euros, it's a 8GB download. Not only would I exceed my fair usage limit.

If someone says buys Starwars online, thats around a 20GB download, on the 100 service that's double your fair use.

Netflix streaming in HD is something like 800MB in 15 mins.

Most people pay for the top tier for one of 3 reasons.

1) So that when they need to download a biog file quickly, they can do so .

2) Lots of users in the house.

3) people upgraded from the 20 to the 50 as they introduced management on the 20, then when the 100 came out, people paid extra for the 100 as they introduced management for the 50.

Now management is on all tiers, 4 users in one household, one gaming, one watching netflic etc, we can soon hit limits.

In reality they are selling an ever faster service when a lot of their network cant handle it. Most people would rather a 20 unmanaged unthrottled service than a promise of 100 that's constantly throttled. Took me 42 mins last night to download a 351mb file that's more than a 50% cut.

If I am legally using the net (surely someone that pays for 100 does so due to heavyish use) and I hit my cap at 8:55, even though their management ends at 9pm, I have it for a further 5 hours as a penalty/fine?????????

Virgin state "As an example, a size: XL customer on our 60Mb service can download 5,000MB between 4pm and 9pm on a weekday before they are traffic managed. During this time that customer would have to download 7 standard definition movies or 1,250 songs before a 5 hour temporary speed reduction was applied,"

What about someone that plays something like WOW and there#s a large update, what about Skyrim I brought from steam a few weeks ago, that's 5.6GB or Portal; 2 from steam that was 10.5GB? A user pays for fast broadband, buys a game then ends up managed for 5 hrs.

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Game chain sold

Ojustaboo

Re: physical sales won't go away

Teens can get preloaded credit cards.

Apart from that, both my kids (now adults) had Lloyds accounts with visa debits.

I've just checked Lloyds site, and their youth accounts for 11 to 19 year olds does give them a visa debit card..

I always thought that the older generation in particular might not like online ordering, but my wife is a mobile hairdresser with a lot of elderly clients. Turns out the vast majority of them much prefer ordering on line and waiting for their parcels to be delivered, very very few of them are scared of buying online.

I order from shopto today, it's on the floor (yes people the postman puts it through my letterbox) tomorrow (or the day after if it's gone 5:30pm when I order)

If I need something urgently, I can nip onto Tesco/Asda etc any time 24hrs and buy without having to wait for a Saturday when I'm available to actually visit a game store, and save myself around £10 (and save the parking charges) in the process..

Yes some people still don't like buying online, yes some people still like physical media but the numbers are getting less and less every day

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Apple tightens grip on tablet market with iPad 2 and 3 pincer move

Ojustaboo

Re: Lack of real information from a UK view

True.

After 6 months of waiting for Orange to even acknowledge Gingerbread existed (as far as I know, they still haven't, haven't bothered checking recently), I ended up rooting and putting 3rd party Overcome ROM on my tablet.

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Ojustaboo

Re: Something in what you say....

"There isn't much available for ipad that isn't for android."

that depends what you want to use your tablet for.

The Pro electronic music market seems to be focusing totally on the Ipad with nothing remotely close being available on the Android.

For example

http://moogmusic.com/products/apps/animoog

http://www.spectrasonics.net/products/omnisphere-ipad.php

http://auriaapp.com/

http://www.native-instruments.com/#/en/products/producer/imaschine

and when discussed on the various music forums, things get said along the lines of

"The Apple stuff uses CoreAudio which is a known and reliable low latency supporting protocol. The Android audio protocol is fine for multimedia, but is simply not designed to compete in the low latency department. I have a synth on my phone, the lowest achievable latency is 46ms.I think even regardless of the market perception (where most musicians have Apple stuff) from the developers POV, Google needs to seriously update its audio protocol if it is at all interested to compete in this part of the market"

I own a Galaxy Tablet that I use every single day, I am buying an ipad ONLY because the music apps I want aren't even being considered for the Android.

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Apple New iPad Wi-Fi only

Ojustaboo

Re: Overpriced gadget from a corrupt company

Not the only reason

I have 7" Galaxy tablet and I am more than happy with it for everyday use, I watch films/browse the web etc on it almost every night before I go to sleep. The quality of the screen is perfect for a 7" device in my opinion.

However, I'm still contemplating getting an Ipad.

The reason? The software I want simply isn't being made and manufactures seem to have little interest in making it for the Android. I'm heavily into music, samplers, synthesizers and Android has been left in the dark compared to what's available in the Ipad.

A conversation about this recently on Korg's web site resulted in someone saying

"I also mainly miss music apps on my Android gear. Tuners and Realbook stuff is available, but not really many nice synths or DAW like things like on iPad/iPhone. But the reason, from the developers point of view, is quite clear I think. The Apple stuff uses CoreAudio which is a known and reliable low latency supporting protocol. The Android audio protocol is fine for multimedia, but is simply not designed to compete in the low latency department. I have a synth on my phone, the lowest achievable latency is 46ms.I think even regardless of the market perception (where most musicians have Apple stuff) from the developers POV, Google needs to seriously update its audio protocol if it is at all interested to compete in this part of the market."

I could list music app after music app that I would love on my android but will never have unless I go for the ipad. For example:

http://moogmusic.com/products/apps/animoog

http://www.spectrasonics.net/products/omnisphere-ipad.php

http://auriaapp.com/

The professional pro music companies are releasing more and more stuff for ipad and simply forgetting Android even exists. Doesn't matter which is better, if I want my music apps on a tablet, I really do have zero choice.

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Testicle-boiling new iPad ignites fanboi fury

Ojustaboo

who will be the first with the egg cooking app

Can see it now.

Just 59p to download, you get a nice pic of a frying pan on the screen and all you do is crack an egg and away you go

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UK cops cuff suspect after RnBXclusive takedown

Ojustaboo

I did this Tuesday

A true incident from just 2 days ago. I had to take my son 180 miles to look at a UNI yesterday, wanted something to listen to in the car.

My daughter us in her 20's and away at Uni. I went in her room to get my CD set of Mitchell and Webb Sound, took one look at her room, one look at her wardrobes etc, didn't want to spend ages snooping around in her bedroom, couldn't get hold of her on her phone so as I have a very fast broadband, kicked off a torrent and downloaded the first 3 series in next to no time.

I suspect a few people will still try to argue that what I did was stealing. And someone somewhere will still think that that means someone lost a sale.

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I await SOCA's reply

I emailed Soca with the following

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Subject: Soca take down message on Rnbxclusives site as reported on the BBC

Hi

Never been to the site neither do I have any desire to do so.

I had an in-depth discussion on music and TV piracy recently and it was brought to my attention what the law states.

The Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988, as amended by the Copyright and Trade Marks (Offences and Enforcement) Act 2002, currently protects copyrighted materials. People who download copyrighted recordings without permission face civil actions. Downloading can also constitute a criminal offence if the downloader distributes the material.

By its wording, if someone was to use bittorrent (again never been to the site in question so don't know if it was a torrent site) then technically they are distributing as they have to upload at the same time as downloading.

But your site message stated:

If you have downloaded music from this website you may have committed a criminal offence which carries a maximum penalty of up to 10 years imprisonment and an unlimited fine under UK law.

That is simply 100% untrue if what I said about the copyright act is true. You haven't committed a criminal offence as the law stands and you cant get a criminal record. I know you used the word "may" but either they did something illegal or they didn't. And if its not illegal to download, then "may have done something illegal" is plain and simply wrong?

Could you please confirm whether what I've said is right or not, and if not please explain why not?

Many thanks

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Sky follows BT in blocking Newzbin2

Ojustaboo

Downloading is a civil offence and not a criminal one

As I've said many times before, under English law, I can download what copyrighter material I chose to and as long as I'm not uploading it, I have not committed a criminal offence and cannot get a criminal record.

The film company can if they want take civil action against me, just like I can try to take civil action against a neighbour for anything I choose to feel aggrieved about.

The Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988, as amended by the Copyright and Trade Marks (Offences and Enforcement) Act 2002, currently protects copyrighted materials. People who download copyrighted recordings without permission face civil actions. Downloading can also constitute a criminal offence if the downloader distributes the material.

Personally I download a few TV shows, I have zero guilt, they are shown in the next few months on the Virgin TV service I'm paying for anyway, all it means is that I can watch them the same time as those in the US hence don't find the plot spoilers all over the net etc.

I also might discover a TV show that I've missed the previous series, one that's been aired on the cable package I've paid for, I may download those to simply catch up and carry on watching from the pint I'm at. Again zero guilt.

A screwed up recording is another example, as is say my Virgin box died and needs replacing yet I still have stuff to watch that I've recorded.

All of these are not costing anyone a single penny in lost revenue as I'm paying for my Virgin service anyway. I rarely watch TV live any-more and it takes a few presses of my remote to skip over adverts, so I never see the adverts either, hence that argument is also invalid for me.

Stupid DRM measures that inconvenience legitimate users (I'm sure the £250 worth of movies I brought from Samsung Movies with a voucher I got with my tablet says it will only work on my tablet and one PC, hence if I change tablets or upgrade my PC, had I paid cash for those movies, they would be useless).

film and game companies chose to restrict free trade, stopping me buying a film or game when I'm in the US and bringing it back to the UK unless I had a modded machine or region free dvd player. It's silly things like this that fuels piracy.

I disagree with the poster who gave the car park or not paying for a train example. Ini both of those, IU'm taking up a space that's stopping another prospective customer using, placing wear and tear on the car park, train etc, It's more like me being a good artist, going into a friends house, they've brought a £500 painting, I take a photo of it, go home and paint myself a copy. No one has lost out as I would never had forked out £500 in the first place.

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Virgin Media, TalkTalk snub kind offer to block Newzbin2

Ojustaboo

Waste of time. People will get around this just like they get around everything else.

Virgins just started traffic shaping Newsgroup access so that even if your on their 100 service, between around 5pm and midnight instead of taking less than 30 secs to download a 700MB file, it takes 5+ hours.

So people have started using VPN's to get around this

And that's apart from the fact that under current English law, if I download say a TV show from a newsgroup, I haven't even committed a criminal offence, just a civil one uf they use newsgroups, unlike using torrents.

The Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988, as amended by the Copyright and Trade Marks (Offences and Enforcement) Act 2002, currently protects copyrighted materials. People who download copyrighted recordings without permission face civil actions. Downloading can also constitute a criminal offence if the downloader distributes the material.

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Virgin Media broadband in two-day wobble

Ojustaboo

7 days for an engineer

My internet went completely off line Sunday night. Was back up again Monday Morning.

Monday night went off totally again (modem and internet on Tvio box offline).

Phoned Virgin, earliest they can get an engineer out is next Monday, 7 days time.

Personally I find being expected to wait 7 days in this day and age when say son needs internet to log into college etc, totally unacceptable.

Luckily for them it was back up this morning.

Am on their 100Mbit service, reason I wanted this (legality aside) is so that when I want to download a TV show off of newsgroups, I can do so in about 1 min. Due to their extreme traffic shaping, doing this from around 4pm to midnight goes slower than dialup.

As I had no internet, thought I'd catch up on some of the stuff I'd recorded over the past week on their Tvio box. But as I had no network connection on my Tvio box, it wouldn't let me watch anything I'd recorded Grrr

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Got a non-iPad tablet? Weirdo

Ojustaboo

re: nothing weird about an ipad

Thing is, most if not all of the equivalent quality tablets are exactly the same price as an ipad.

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Ojustaboo

I own a GalaxyTablet

On the whole I'm very happy with it. To those that think it's a fad, well it may be for some, it's the most used gadget I've ever owned and the only thing my wife has said that she doesn't think was a waste of money me buying due to all the daily use I get with it.

Couldn't care less whether I have an apple, Samsung or whatever branded product, providing it's good quality and does what I want.

I have to say that more and more lately, I keep finding apps that I want and could make good use of, that are only available on Apple and it seems many of these companies have little desire to currently develop for the android.

I'm almost at the point where my next upgrade will be an ipad, just so that I can make use of the many apps I want, mainly music related apps such as interface to omnisphere, Samplewiz etc.

Which is a shame because I like competition, but currently there's a big lack of it. Most android apps are phone ones blown up, few are optimised for tablets. It is getting better, but if companies decide to do to Android what many companies choose to do to Linux (pretend it doesn't exist) then I may have no choice but get an ipad.

Bit like the betamax debate, doesn't matter which one ultimately is better, the one that has the most support is the one that most people will go for.

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Apple girds loins for 'obscene iPad sales surge'

Ojustaboo
FAIL

re no scrabble, not even this one

It's add supported and doesn't get all that good reviews because of this

I go onto my Galaxy Tablet, open up Android Market, search for either Scrabble or Scrabble free and there's zero sign of it anywhere.

Further to that, I've now worked out why it doesn't show up on my tablet. When I try to install it via my PC from your link, I get the message "This item cannot be installed in your device's country"

So it's not actually available in the UK.

I search about once a month to see if ones been released, so was surprised I had missed it, but now I know why :)

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Ojustaboo

Android is good but the price will make it fail

Having had a Ipod touch for a year and loving it, but also having crap eyesight, I was looking at getting a tablet.

At the time 7" or Ipad was all the choice I had and as I got a goodish deal through Orange (I use the word good loosely because it's still a rip off really) on a 7" Galaxy Tablet, I sold my Ipod the same day.

I'm not a fanboy or hater of any of the companies, I like (well don't dislike) Linux, MS, Apple, Google etc etc etc.

When it comes to the tablet, I have personally found that for what I browse the web for (a lot of videos about synthesizers/keyboards), many are in flash format hence the Android has been a good switch for me.

A lot of things such as Kindle, audible are just as good on either.

But so far there are still far far far more decent apps that I could make good use of on the Ipad that simply aren't being ported to the Android, whether music related or gaming. This is especially true in the paid for app market, cant even buy Scrabble for the Android :)

There are a lot of good apps out for android, but I can see the difference a mile away having come from apple land.

That being the case, if I was looking to buy a 10" tablet now, if my entire choice of top quality tablets (as in thin, good screen, powerful such as Samsung or Ipad) is around the same price, or even a £100 difference, I would pay the extra £100 and get the one the majority of the developers are backing, hence would buy the Ipad and put up with the lack of flash.

If a rival company brought out something like the Samsung 10" for 1/2 the price of the ipad, then yes, I think many many people would buy it and market share would increase to the point where the developers thought it was worth developing for.

32GB Samsung 10" wifi from Argos, £479

32GB Ipad 2 wifi from Argos, you've guessed it, also £479

Now giving that choice to a good 85% (if not more) of the population, they are going to go for the Ipad every single time with just the Apple despisers opting for the Samsung.

That is why the others are failing. We all know they're making a huge profit on these things. If Samsung sold at £250 - £300 then not only would a lot of people who couldn't afford an ipad be able to afford the Samsung, many who could afford an ipad would also choose to save the money.

But, look at something dismal like the HP Touchpad. It's thick, it's heavy, it has hardly any apps, absolutely incomparable to either the Ipad or for that matter the Samsung. How much was Argos selling this before the fire sale, you've guessed it, £479. And HP wondered why they weren't selling any.

No one will ever take on Apple if they continue doing this, they need to make a product virtually as good and sell it a lot cheaper/ Otherwise they might as well all give up and go home now.

You've only got to see the frenzy over the touchpad firesale with people unable to buy them for £89/£115 willing to shell out £250 on ebay for something that's virtually unsupported, heavy and thick, to see there are a lot of people willing to get a tablet, it's just these people are not prepared to pay Ipad prices.

I can see this, I'm sure most of you can too. Why manufactures think they can compete with the ipad at the same price (often with much poorer designed goods) well only they know.

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Ford readies in-car Sync for 2012 release

Ojustaboo
Facepalm

Of course kids wont work out how to override this

I suspect within weeks of it being available there will be numerous ways of circumnavigation it available on the usual dodgy sites.

That aside, I believe there to be a safety issue.

Many many times you need a bit of power to get out of a dangerous situation. If this is automatically limited then I can see lives being lost.

Of course it could be done sensibly (oh look, there's pigs flying) whereby 20 secs override is allowed before it kicks in etc. Trouble is, this sort of thing is usually programmed by idiots that have no clue about how the real world works, then taken up by parents stupid enough to believe everything the advertising hype says. It's the sort of thing my mother would have got for me 30 years ago and set the max speed anywhere to 27mph.

Personally I think there has to be a better way of addressing this. Something like a tacograph, in car cameras etc, or even limiting the size of engine, 0-60 speed of car etc below a certain number of driving years.

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Misco reaps harvest of rage in Twitter Touchpad debacle

Ojustaboo

They really did have them

Again, the problem was the frenzy of people monitoring every shop with any stock.

John Lewis was mentioned numerous times at around 9am yesterday morning with such comments as (this one made up as cant be bothered to search through a 850 page thread on hotukdeals) "John Lewis Norwich has three 16GB and two 32GB in store"

And within 30 mins was usually followed by either "I rushed down there and managed to get a 16GB one" or "I rushed down there but people had beaten me to it"

There were LOTS of people logged into various companies with the full price item in their baskets, hitting the F5 key every few secs for hours waiting for the price to drop. Some managed it,. many didn't.

The amount of people doing that plus the amount of people buying them yesterday first thing at full price knowing the price would drop before delivery (and they are covered by distance selling regs should it not drop) meant that there was simply zero chance of anyone waiting for a stock email to have any chance of getting one saying they had them in stock. Any company that had stock sold out in minutes literally.

An example of the frenzy, just look at this thread

http://www.hotukdeals.com/misc/palm-pre3-hp-touchpad-16gb-32gb-89-115-from-today-stock-levels-official-thread-p/1000474

which had an up to the minute update of what stock was where in the first post., including a list of all online shops people could find where stock was still full price

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Ojustaboo

Yep they had stock

Many people reserved full price from Argos and brought on-line from both Argos and Comet, knowing the price was going to drop. Argos had them available to reserve at my local branch as the deal initially went live at Dixons at 6pm a couple of days ago.

Yesterday morning Argos had them online available to buy. People gambled and purchased at full price online. Argos has since said those people will get it at the reduced price (according to a thread on HotUKdeals). They has zero risk of doing this because even though the particular item is excluded from Argos's money back terms, they can return it under the 7 day distance selling rules if they didn't get the cheaper price.

It appears for those people that they were lucky

On HotUKdeals they had a thread listing the companies that had yet to reduce their prices, and times that some were suspecting to be doing so. That's when those companies sold out before the discounts went live.

Many people got more than one reservation at various Argos stores, worried (and legitimately so according to some posts) that when the price went down, staff would but them and would claim computer error etc.

Then there's the many others who claim to have brought 5+ to sell on ebay (there's loads of them on there now) and I have read a post of someone going into Comet only to find a person at the checkout with the last 8 in his basket???

Personally I think a lot of these ebay sellers are in for a shock because while I might spend £115 on a 32GB tablet that might get android in the future, I wouldn't spend much more. Most people are tempted by the sub £100 price of the 16GB version,these people also are unlikely to buy from ebay.

Watching the hysteria unfold was quite amusing though.

Would also be a good way for a company to get their tablet into the market to take on apple. Claim they're shutting down that part of the company, then change their minds and bring out V once a large customer base is established. .

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